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2012-02-11 09:18:00 AM
Gangbangers. Yet another word that has lost its original meaning in the era of porm.
 
Pud [TotalFark]
2012-02-11 09:38:25 AM
FTA - The men had been drinking and smoking.

Thems some BAAAAD men. Someone loan me a cap to pop in their ass.
 
2012-02-11 09:52:33 AM
It's been true nearly forever that most guns used in street crimes are rentals rather than owned guns. It's why you are relatively safe in most street level muggings/store robberies. If the the gun renter has to fire the gun during the rental period, he just bought the piece as it's no longer a "clean" gun and therefore of no use to the street dealer anymore.
 
2012-02-11 10:22:33 AM
Ms. Crute's nickname was Sweetz because she was "quite friendly",

Times-speak for 'slut'.
 
2012-02-11 10:36:15 AM
SmackLT: Gangbangers. Yet another word that has lost its original meaning in the era of porm.

Hell of an observation! To Ganbangers *raises baby batter filled glass*
 
2012-02-11 10:55:31 AM
Sharing firearms can lead to gunorrhea.
 
2012-02-11 12:28:06 PM
SmackLT: Gangbangers. Yet another word that has lost its original meaning in the era of porm.

Yup, that and "ass to mouth".


/wait, what?
 
2012-02-11 12:39:08 PM
This is my rifle,
This is my gun,
This is for sharing,
And this is too!
 
2012-02-11 12:40:48 PM
SOCIALISM!
 
2012-02-11 12:43:17 PM
That's how you get diseases...
 
2012-02-11 12:43:25 PM
This also leads to greater school plagiarism when they are provided with the same essays.
 
2012-02-11 12:47:01 PM
zeromsc.files.wordpress.com
"Welcome to Waka Burger! Can I take your order?"

/hot
//like a cap in yo' ass
 
2012-02-11 12:47:14 PM
It's an absolute disgrace that our federal tax dollars are being used to arm Mexican gangs when American gangs don't have enough weaponry to adequately arm themselves.
 
2012-02-11 12:49:35 PM
theselvedgeyard.files.wordpress.com

Hello, little man. Boy, I sure heard a bunch about you. See, I was a good friend of your Daddy's. We were in that ghetto pit of hell over five hours together. Hopefully, you'll never have to experience this yourself, but when two men are in a situation like me and your Daddy were, for as long as we were, you take on certain responsibilities of the other. If it had been me who had not made it, Little D would be talkin' right now to my son Jim. But the way it worked out is I'm talkin' to you, Butch. I got somethin' for you.This gun I got here was first purchased by your great-granddaddy.

It was bought during the 80s in a little general store in Knoxville, Tennessee. It was bought by Erine Coolidge the day he setto fight the Bloods. It was your great-granddaddy's gun, made by the first company to ever make sideways iron sights. You see, up until then, people just aimed sideways with nothing to help you aim. Your great-granddaddy used the gun every day he was in the streets. Then when he had done his duty, he went home to your great-grandmother, took the watch off his gun and put it an ol' coffee can. And in that can it stayed 'til your grandfather Dane Coolidge was called upon by his country to go overseas and fight the Bloods once again.

This time they called it "America's War against Gang Violence". Your great-granddaddy gave it to your granddad for good luck. Unfortunately, Dane's luck wasn't as good as his old man's. Your granddad was a dope fiend and he was killed with all the other dope fiends at the gunfight of Main street. Your granddad was facing death and he knew it. None of the other boys had any illusions about ever leavin' that street alive. So three hours before the Bloods took the street, your 19-year old grandfather asked a homey onnamed Winocki, a man he had never met before in his life, to deliver to his infant son, who he had never seen in the flesh, his gun.

Three days later, your grandfather was dead. But Winocki kept his word. After the war was over, he paid a visit to your grandmother, delivering to your infant father, his Dad's gun. This gun. This watch was on your Daddy's pants when he was shot down over Littleton Street. He was captured and put in a Crib warehouse. Now he knew if the Cribs ever saw the gun it'd be taken away. The way your Daddy looked at it, that gun was your birthright. And he'd be damned if any motherfarkers were gonna put their greasy crib hands on his boy's birthright. So he hid it in the one place he knew he could hid something. His ass. Five long hours, he wore this watch up his ass. Then when he died bleeding to death, he gave me the gun. I hid this uncomfortable hunk of metal up my ass for hours years. Then, after seven years, I was sent home to my family. And now, little man, I give the gun to you.
 
2012-02-11 12:50:31 PM
"...between the Rock Starz and their colorfully named rivals, the Very Crispy Gangsters. "


WTF happened to cool gang names like Disciples of Death or the Westside Torture Demons?

Rock Starz? Very Crispy Gangsters? They sound like Saturday morning cartoon gang names.
 
2012-02-11 12:53:22 PM
I'm sure Bloomberg is organizing a group of volunteers who will travel out of state where there are less restrictions on communities and use under cover cameras to show just how easy it is to join, I bet they find background checks aren't even required!


/fark I hate New York
 
2012-02-11 12:57:13 PM
Why risk getting caught with a gun when you can stash them all over the city? I'm doubting this has anything to do with the bad economy.
 
2012-02-11 01:01:43 PM
See this is the problem with NAFTA. Damn foreigners buy up all our American guns, and then upstanding American citizens can't even afford their own gun. It's just a tragedy I tells ya.
 
2012-02-11 01:08:23 PM

Some hold that the large drop in price of cocaine made it hard for low-level gang members to afford guns

From How the Plummeting Price of Cocaine Fueled the Nationwide Drop in Violent Crime

All of this competition would most affect the foot soldiers in the cocaine trade, between whom the majority of inner-city violence occurred. Thanks to the work of Sudhir Venkatesh on the underground markets of the Chicago's urban poor, we know that drug gangs are highly organized and stratified. Those at the bottom selling on street corners make very little. Most only sell drugs part-time as a means of supplementing income. Few sellers pull in substantial earnings. In a study of Washington, D.C. dealers, Venkatesh found "25 percent of the sample sold drugs no more than once a week, and these people reported monthly net earnings from the drug trade of just $50 a month." The basic conclusion is that the lack of financial opportunities in the ghetto and the promise of climbing the gang's organizational ladder kept small-time dealers accepting low wages.

And there's the missing piece in the DEA's theory. Once the margin of profit for dealing small amounts of crack cocaine disappeared, being part of the drug trade was no longer worth the persistent threat of violence or the stiff criminal penalties. A 70 percent drop in cocaine prices like the one that occurred in the mid 1990s combined with competition from decentralized sources for methamphetamines and prescription narcotics would completely eliminate the minimum wage drug dealer as a viable profession.
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2012-02-11 01:11:12 PM
This is bad news ... for Obama!
 
2012-02-11 01:12:49 PM
I love British gang crime movies. Because there's always the scene where the gang plans the job, and invariably they have to construct an elaborate preliminary plan for obtaining the guns. The caper doesn't begin until they extract the little .22s from the safe or secret cache where they are hidden.
 
2012-02-11 01:17:28 PM
Overdue?
 
2012-02-11 01:19:09 PM
MBooda:
I love British gang crime movies. Because there's always the scene where the gang plans the job, and invariably they have to construct an elaborate preliminary plan for obtaining the guns. The caper doesn't begin until they extract the little .22s from the safe or secret cache where they are hidden.

Of course, sometimes they just have a Bren gun.
 
2012-02-11 01:19:29 PM
It has to be back by Friday:
 
2012-02-11 01:19:47 PM
And here I was told that gangbangers don't buy guns.
 
2012-02-11 01:19:48 PM
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2012-02-11 01:21:10 PM
MBooda: I love British gang crime movies. Because there's always the scene where the gang plans the job, and invariably they have to construct an elaborate preliminary plan for obtaining the guns. The caper doesn't begin until they extract the little .22s from the safe or secret cache where they are hidden.

Like A Fish Called Wanda and Snatch, they were great!
 
2012-02-11 01:26:01 PM
CygnusDarius: Hello, little man. Boy, I sure heard a bunch about you. See, I was a good friend of your Daddy's. We were in that ghetto pit of hell over five hours together. Hopefully, you'll never have to experience this yourself, but when two men are in a situation like me and your Daddy were, for as long as we were, you take on certain responsibilities of the other. If it had been me who had not made it, Little D would be talkin' right now to my son Jim. But the way it worked out is I'm talkin' to you, Butch. I got somethin' for you.This gun I got here was first purchased by your great-granddaddy.

It was bought during the 80s in a little general store in Knoxville, Tennessee. It was bought by Erine Coolidge the day he setto fight the Bloods. It was your great-granddaddy's gun, made by the first company to ever make sideways iron sights. You see, up until then, people just aimed sideways with nothing to help you aim. Your great-granddaddy used the gun every day he was in the streets. Then when he had done his duty, he went home to your great-grandmother, took the watch off his gun and put it an ol' coffee can. And in that can it stayed 'til your grandfather Dane Coolidge was called upon by his country to go overseas and fight the Bloods once again.

This time they called it "America's War against Gang Violence". Your great-granddaddy gave it to your granddad for good luck. Unfortunately, Dane's luck wasn't as good as his old man's. Your granddad was a dope fiend and he was killed with all the other dope fiends at the gunfight of Main street. Your granddad was facing death and he knew it. None of the other boys had any illusions about ever leavin' that street alive. So three hours before the Bloods took the street, your 19-year old grandfather asked a homey onnamed Winocki, a man he had never met before in his life, to deliver to his infant son, who he had never seen in the flesh, his gun.

Three days later, your grandfather was dead. But Winocki kept his word. After the war was over, he paid a visit to your grandmother, delivering to your infant father, his Dad's gun. This gun. This watch was on your Daddy's pants when he was shot down over Littleton Street. He was captured and put in a Crib warehouse. Now he knew if the Cribs ever saw the gun it'd be taken away. The way your Daddy looked at it, that gun was your birthright. And he'd be damned if any motherfarkers were gonna put their greasy crib hands on his boy's birthright. So he hid it in the one place he knew he could hid something. His ass. Five long hours, he wore this watch up his ass. Then when he died bleeding to death, he gave me the gun. I hid this uncomfortable hunk of metal up my ass for hours years. Then, after seven years, I was sent home to my family. And now, little man, I give the gun to you.


+1, chulo

¡Más brillante!
 
2012-02-11 01:28:45 PM
Yeah, a gun that's been out in the elements for god knows how long is a gun I want to shoot, that might blow up in my hand.
 
2012-02-11 01:37:32 PM
BumpInTheNight: MBooda: I love British gang crime movies. Because there's always the scene where the gang plans the job, and invariably they have to construct an elaborate preliminary plan for obtaining the guns. The caper doesn't begin until they extract the little .22s from the safe or secret cache where they are hidden.

Like A Fish Called Wanda and Snatch, they were great!


Heh. Not exactly what I had in mind, but thanks for the reminder.

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/you can call me susan if it makes you happy
 
2012-02-11 01:37:59 PM
CygnusDarius: [theselvedgeyard.files.wordpress.com image 600x463]

Hello, little man. Boy, I sure heard a bunch about you. See, I was a good friend of your Daddy's. We were in that ghetto pit of hell over five hours together. Hopefully, you'll never have to experience this yourself, but when two men are in a situation like me and your Daddy were, for as long as we were, you take on certain responsibilities of the other. If it had been me who had not made it, Little D would be talkin' right now to my son Jim. But the way it worked out is I'm talkin' to you, Butch. I got somethin' for you.This gun I got here was first purchased by your great-granddaddy.

It was bought during the 80s in a little general store in Knoxville, Tennessee. It was bought by Erine Coolidge the day he setto fight the Bloods. It was your great-granddaddy's gun, made by the first company to ever make sideways iron sights. You see, up until then, people just aimed sideways with nothing to help you aim. Your great-granddaddy used the gun every day he was in the streets. Then when he had done his duty, he went home to your great-grandmother, took the watch off his gun and put it an ol' coffee can. And in that can it stayed 'til your grandfather Dane Coolidge was called upon by his country to go overseas and fight the Bloods once again.

This time they called it "America's War against Gang Violence". Your great-granddaddy gave it to your granddad for good luck. Unfortunately, Dane's luck wasn't as good as his old man's. Your granddad was a dope fiend and he was killed with all the other dope fiends at the gunfight of Main street. Your granddad was facing death and he knew it. None of the other boys had any illusions about ever leavin' that street alive. So three hours before the Bloods took the street, your 19-year old grandfather asked a homey onnamed Winocki, a man he had never met before in his life, to deliver to his infant son, who he had never seen in the flesh, his gun.

Three days later, your grandfather w ...


What a wonderful picture. A man sharing his skills and knowledge with his son. Heartwarming to say the least.
 
2012-02-11 01:39:21 PM
Getting involved in nasty shiat while buying dope in a bad neighborhood? You don't say....
 
2012-02-11 01:39:40 PM
As a criminal defense attorney who routinely represents gang members, I have never heard anything that supports the "bad economy" theory. In fact, that is contrary to my understanding as the rational behind gang using community guns.

As I understand it, these community guns are weapons that were fired during a previous crime, be it a robbery, shooting, or even murder. Because ballistics can trace spent rounds to a specific firearm, it would be foolish to continue to walk around with the gun. So gun is stashed somewhere for anyone in the gang to use when they commit an offense were the gun might be discharged. After the crime is committed the gun is returned.

This doesn't mean that gang members are walking around unarmed. It just means that it is less likely that the gun a gang member carries around regularly was used in a previous crime in which it was fired.

Stashed guns also allow gang members who don't carry regularly, due to concerns about being a felon in possession, quick access to a gun when they think might need one for a limited period of time.
 
2012-02-11 01:51:18 PM
The NRA is OUTRAGED by this! They're not sure how but dammit they are OUTRAGED!!!
 
2012-02-11 01:53:47 PM
Barfmaker: SmackLT: Gangbangers. Yet another word that has lost its original meaning in the era of porm.

Yup, that and "ass to mouth".


/wait, what?


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2012-02-11 01:55:57 PM
msnbcmedia.msn.com
 
2012-02-11 01:58:56 PM
I don't know about other places but that's been the norm in stlouis forever. Stash guns in abandoned houses. Everyone knows where to heritage if needed but no one is attached to it or all its crimes except for the limited amount of time they are using it. Even if they are caught and its connected to multitude of crimes it is almost impossible to prove because of all the differing times, alibis, descriptions,noncorroberating evidence, etc and it confuses the fark out of the investigations.
 
2012-02-11 01:59:59 PM
the worse gangbangers are the cops they dont even have to hide the damm things
 
2012-02-11 02:03:00 PM
Nick Nostril: Barfmaker: SmackLT: Gangbangers. Yet another word that has lost its original meaning in the era of porm.

Yup, that and "ass to mouth".


/wait, what?

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My first week of working in Texas confused the heck out of me. People had aTm stuff in their offices, and I was trying to figure out if they liked Asynchronous Transfer Method or Automatic Teller Machines. (I was too naive for the other definition)
 
2012-02-11 02:03:24 PM
JeffreyScott: As a criminal defense attorney who routinely represents gang members, I have never heard anything that supports the "bad economy" theory. In fact, that is contrary to my understanding as the rational behind gang using community guns.

As I understand it, these community guns are weapons that were fired during a previous crime, be it a robbery, shooting, or even murder. Because ballistics can trace spent rounds to a specific firearm, it would be foolish to continue to walk around with the gun. So gun is stashed somewhere for anyone in the gang to use when they commit an offense were the gun might be discharged. After the crime is committed the gun is returned.

This doesn't mean that gang members are walking around unarmed. It just means that it is less likely that the gun a gang member carries around regularly was used in a previous crime in which it was fired.

Stashed guns also allow gang members who don't carry regularly, due to concerns about being a felon in possession, quick access to a gun when they think might need one for a limited period of time.


So, if they get caught during a crime with a community gun and the cops can trace it to other crimes, does the perpetrator go down for the other crimes too?
 
2012-02-11 02:05:17 PM
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What is sooo funny about borrowing a gun?
 
2012-02-11 02:08:55 PM
These lazy shirkers need to pull themselves up by their own gun straps.
 
2012-02-11 02:09:33 PM
Gun menu in levels of pricing.

Retail, with paperwork, most expensive

Clean "brand new out of the box"

Dirty, used in a crime and discharged

Dirty with a "body on it", the cheapest, but if you get caught with it you might have bought yourself a murder charge
 
2012-02-11 02:29:26 PM
"Get the Wocka Flocka"

I thought people only said this when the rash reappears.
 
2012-02-11 02:48:29 PM
Hey lets crack down on gang members since there are obviously more of them on the street then guns.
 
2012-02-11 03:21:52 PM
forever_blowing_bubbles: The NRA is OUTRAGED by this! They're not sure how but dammit they are OUTRAGED!!!

BLACK PEOPLE WITH GUNS!!! WHAT'S THIS COUNTRY COMING TO???!!!

images.politico.com

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!!11!!
 
2012-02-11 03:25:07 PM
Somebody said, 'Get the Waka Flocka.' "

Yo, I gots me this! (new window) (NSFChristersor Humorless dawgs!)
 
2012-02-11 03:32:52 PM
offmymeds: forever_blowing_bubbles: The NRA is OUTRAGED by this! They're not sure how but dammit they are OUTRAGED!!!

BLACK PEOPLE WITH GUNS!!! WHAT'S THIS COUNTRY COMING TO???!!!

[images.politico.com image 605x328]

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!!11!!


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2012-02-11 03:34:35 PM
Um, no. These have been used for, like, ever. It's a weapons cache. The main reason is for people to be able to always be armed but never have a weapon on them. And it affords the benefit of not being able to tie a murder weapon to one person
 
2012-02-11 03:35:24 PM
I've heard that in third world countries, that it's not unusual for criminals to rent a gun from a criminal gun rental service, commit the crime, and return the gun.

Link (new window)

//When guns are outlawed, outlaws will rent guns.
 
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