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2012-02-11 07:10:45 AM  
My vote is on good father.
 
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2012-02-11 08:18:18 AM  

AbbeySomeone: My vote is on good father.


(from another thread) verbal_jizm: Seriously. If she steps over the line then he should take away the computer for an appropriate amount of time, basically setting out boundaries. What this douchebag did teaches her nothing other than that her dad is a dick and an attention whore

Actually it did teach her a few other things.

1) It's okay to act immature and destroy personal property when you feel slighted by others.

2) It's okay to belittle loved ones before everyone on the planet.

3) It's okay to misuse firearms if you're angry over something someone did to you.

4) If you get angry and destroy someones property (even if you gave it to them) then it's okay to force them to reimburse you for your destruction

5) Disrespect should always be returned and escalated.

6) Adults should never take the high road during a dispute with a child.

7) Retaliation against family members and loved ones is cool and funny

8) It's okay to pry into the personal communications of your family members if you possess the skillz to do it.

9) Once you've betrayed the trust of your children you should punish them for their immature thoughts made in private.


Gosh wouldn't the world be a much better place if we all taught our children these values?

Mr. Jackass if you're perplexed as to why your teenage daughter has no respect for you, walk into the bathroom look into the mirror and ask yourself why you taught her to be that way...
 
2012-02-11 08:23:43 AM  

NFA: AbbeySomeone: My vote is on good father.

(from another thread) verbal_jizm: Seriously. If she steps over the line then he should take away the computer for an appropriate amount of time, basically setting out boundaries. What this douchebag did teaches her nothing other than that her dad is a dick and an attention whore

Actually it did teach her a few other things.

1) It's okay to act immature and destroy personal property when you feel slighted by others.

2) It's okay to belittle loved ones before everyone on the planet.

3) It's okay to misuse firearms if you're angry over something someone did to you.

4) If you get angry and destroy someones property (even if you gave it to them) then it's okay to force them to reimburse you for your destruction

5) Disrespect should always be returned and escalated.

6) Adults should never take the high road during a dispute with a child.

7) Retaliation against family members and loved ones is cool and funny

8) It's okay to pry into the personal communications of your family members if you possess the skillz to do it.

9) Once you've betrayed the trust of your children you should punish them for their immature thoughts made in private.


Gosh wouldn't the world be a much better place if we all taught our children these values?

Mr. Jackass if you're perplexed as to why your teenage daughter has no respect for you, walk into the bathroom look into the mirror and ask yourself why you taught her to be that way...


You're an idiot.
Said AW has also publicly declined any interviews.
 
2012-02-11 08:25:32 AM  
That's way too much shiat to read but just based on the gist of it, prick.
 
2012-02-11 08:31:26 AM  
If my kid acted the same way, I would never videotape myself shooting her computer.

I'd make her destroy it herself.

BTW, the time to deal with that crap is not when they're sixteen. Dollars to donuts she started being an ass way before that, and it should have been addressed then. And being an "IT guy", the dad should have realized when she blocked him that it was going down the wrong path.
 
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2012-02-11 08:41:11 AM  

AbbeySomeone: You're an idiot.
Said AW has also publicly declined any interviews.



Let me get this straight. Some jerk gets his panties in a bind and takes a freaking gun out into the backyard and shoots his teen daughter's computer. Video tapes the event. In the video he verbally berates his adolescent daughter and posts it on the internet for the entire world to see. I point out his profound lack of parenting ability but somehow you think I'm the idiot?

Let me guess, you came from the same type of f@(ked up family environment that created this national embarrassment of a 'father'.
 
2012-02-11 08:57:22 AM  

NFA: AbbeySomeone: You're an idiot.
Said AW has also publicly declined any interviews.


Let me get this straight. Some jerk gets his panties in a bind and takes a freaking gun out into the backyard and shoots his teen daughter's computer. Video tapes the event. In the video he verbally berates his adolescent daughter and posts it on the internet for the entire world to see. I point out his profound lack of parenting ability but somehow you think I'm the idiot?

Let me guess, you came from the same type of f@(ked up family environment that created this national embarrassment of a 'father'.


Try the decaf.
 
2012-02-11 08:58:26 AM  

AbbeySomeone: My vote is on good father.

 
2012-02-11 09:15:25 AM  
Sounds like he's a good father AND a prick. I like that combination, especially when it annoys the super mommies.
 
2012-02-11 09:18:21 AM  
Prick would be my guess.
 
2012-02-11 09:24:15 AM  
Having spent time in the real world, I vote for good father.
 
2012-02-11 09:28:29 AM  

Friskya: Having spent time in the real world, I vote for good father.


I'm guessin' she won't do it again.
I suggest people actually RTFA before posting their outrage.
 
2012-02-11 09:38:39 AM  
It's not quite the way I would have done it, but no harm was done to anything but the computer. His responses in the emails seems pretty measured and not unreasonable.

I'm a father of two, and parenting is a massive and difficult job. Every situation is different and there are a dozen ways to f*ck it up. While I wouldn't have handled it like that, it's very easy to think about how to deal with a situation perfectly with the benefit of distance and impartiality.
 
2012-02-11 09:47:36 AM  
I don't like the way he handled it, but he's handling the resulting firestorm quite nicely.

Personally, I think using a gun shows a level of violence I'm not comfortable with, but that's because I'm not comfortable with guns in general. I also think destroying the laptop was a poor fiscal decision, because she's still going to need to use a computer; and he's eventually going to have to buy a new one.

And for all of you who will IMMEDIATELY respond "...well I didn't have a computer growing up!", try to recognize that this is a different world from when you were a kid, grampa.

I don't have kids. I'm not going to criticize him for this decision, when the child is clearly not harmed.
 
2012-02-11 09:52:33 AM  

what_now: I also think destroying the laptop was a poor fiscal decision, because she's still going to need to use a computer; and he's eventually going to have to buy a new one.


Definitely a poor fiscal decision, however he had already threatened to do it. One thing a parent has to do is follow through. I say kudos to him.
 
2012-02-11 09:56:40 AM  
I don't think one outburst is necessarily indicative of whether or not he's a good or bad parent. He lost it, and did something that I don't agree with, but I wouldn't even begin to judge until I got the whole story.
 
2012-02-11 09:57:24 AM  

SJKebab: Definitely a poor fiscal decision, however he had already threatened to do it. One thing a parent has to do is follow through. I say kudos to him.


Couldn't he have just confiscated it? Or disabled it's internet capability? My cousin punished her son for something similar by making him use an old dell desktop she set up in the living room where everyone could see what he was doing. Bonus- she didn't set up the Ethernet cable.

She didn't destroy a perfectly good laptop.

If he wanted to get rid of it, he could have wiped it and donated it to charity.
 
2012-02-11 10:01:15 AM  

what_now: I don't have kids. I'm not going to criticize him for this decision, when the child is clearly not harmed.


Don't fall for the "If you don't have kids then you don't understand!" thing. He shot a computer with a gun to make a point. Unless he's Elvis, he's a douchebag.
 
2012-02-11 10:12:46 AM  

what_now: If he wanted to get rid of it, he could have wiped it and donated it to charity.


I'm not saying that there wasn't other smarter options on the table. I"ll I'm saying is that he'd threatened to do this in the past, and follow through is paramount.

At the same time, he is in a far better position than any one of us to know which tactic will have the desired effect on his kid, And if he decides that that is the best way to waste his cash in order to teach his daugher a lesson, who am I to judge?
 
2012-02-11 10:16:59 AM  
So he was happy to AW before, but now it got too big for him and so it's everyone else's fault they paid attention to him.

Sure.
 
2012-02-11 10:23:28 AM  

Mugato: what_now: I don't have kids. I'm not going to criticize him for this decision, when the child is clearly not harmed.

Don't fall for the "If you don't have kids then you don't understand!" thing. He shot a computer with a gun to make a point. Unless he's Elvis, he's a douchebag.


I'm failing to see the problem, here. Is shooting an object that you own legally with a gun that you own legally somehow illeagal? No? Immoral, then? No?

I'm sorry, maybe you could help me out.
 
2012-02-11 10:28:09 AM  

Mentat: Sounds like he's a good father AND a prick. I like that combination, especially when it annoys the super mommies.



I support him up to the "now I'm going to destroy your computer, and you'll owe me money for it" moment.
 
2012-02-11 10:31:35 AM  
Well, I'm older but think the whole deal is funny. Good for him.

You get older, you get some money, and guess what? You still don't get everything you want. You have to tell yourself no sometimes. It sucks. That's the growing up part -you stop whining about your parents not giving you stuff because you realize that wasn't really the issue.

And for you youngsters out there: YOU ARE NOT INVISIBLE! You weren't before Facebook either. But now? Some guys track their kid's phones. Impersonate their friends on Facebook. And so on.

My dad knew everything about me (the 70s) when we were not connected to shiat, we weren't friends with our parents, we partied way out in the boonies, etc. And still, he knew stuff. I've learned how that happens and you youngsters will too. Someday.
 
2012-02-11 10:32:08 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: Mugato: what_now: I don't have kids. I'm not going to criticize him for this decision, when the child is clearly not harmed.

Don't fall for the "If you don't have kids then you don't understand!" thing. He shot a computer with a gun to make a point. Unless he's Elvis, he's a douchebag.

I'm failing to see the problem, here. Is shooting an object that you own legally with a gun that you own legally somehow illeagal? No? Immoral, then? No?

I'm sorry, maybe you could help me out.


Well, it's a big overreaction, one. Two, going online and posting a video about it is classic attention whoring, not parenting. All he did was teach his daughter that making a scene gets people to pay attention to you.

So yeah, he's a terrible parent. The point here wasn't to teach his daughter a lesson but to get everyone to look at him.
 
2012-02-11 10:32:36 AM  

dahmers love zombie: If my kid acted the same way, I would never videotape myself shooting her computer.

I'd make her destroy it herself.

BTW, the time to deal with that crap is not when they're sixteen. Dollars to donuts she started being an ass way before that, and it should have been addressed then. And being an "IT guy", the dad should have realized when she blocked him that it was going down the wrong path.


awwww...it's like you don't have teenagers in the house. One day they're telling you all about thier day, they're happy to see you and spend time with you, the next day thier hormones take over and you're lucky to get one word answers from them.

Right now, mine grunts his responses to me. He'll be 16 in June. Good times.
 
2012-02-11 10:32:48 AM  

Mugato: what_now: I don't have kids. I'm not going to criticize him for this decision, when the child is clearly not harmed.

Don't fall for the "If you don't have kids then you don't understand!" thing. He shot a computer with a gun to make a point. Unless he's Elvis, he's a douchebag.


The only computers around when Elvis was alive, were the ones the size of the average family room, so your argument kinda fails, bro.
 
2012-02-11 10:40:11 AM  

GAT_00: cameroncrazy1984: Mugato: what_now: I don't have kids. I'm not going to criticize him for this decision, when the child is clearly not harmed.

Don't fall for the "If you don't have kids then you don't understand!" thing. He shot a computer with a gun to make a point. Unless he's Elvis, he's a douchebag.

I'm failing to see the problem, here. Is shooting an object that you own legally with a gun that you own legally somehow illeagal? No? Immoral, then? No?

I'm sorry, maybe you could help me out.

Well, it's a big overreaction, one. Two, going online and posting a video about it is classic attention whoring, not parenting. All he did was teach his daughter that making a scene gets people to pay attention to you.

So yeah, he's a terrible parent. The point here wasn't to teach his daughter a lesson but to get everyone to look at him.


did you read the article? Here's the part where he answers that question.

Q: Why did y...ou decide to reprimand your daughter over a public medium like YouTube?

A: Well, I actually just had to load the video file itself on YouTube because it's a better upload process than Facebook, but the intended audience was her Facebook friends and the parents of those friends who saw her post and would naturally assume we let our children get away with something like that. So, to answer "Why did you reprimand her over a public medium like Facebook" my answer is this: Because that's how I was raised. If I did something embarrassing to my parents in public (such as a grocery store) I got my tail tore up right there in front of God and everyone, right there in the store. I put the reprisal in exactly the same medium she did, in the exact same manner. Her post went out to about 452 people. Mine went out to about 550 people... originally. I had no idea it would become what it did.

my public service for the day.
 
2012-02-11 10:40:21 AM  

Mentat: Sounds like he's a good father AND a prick.


Yeah, I'm going to have to go with this one.

I don't see how the two are mutually exclusive.
 
2012-02-11 10:44:45 AM  

Methadone Girls: Her post went out to about 452 people. Mine went out to about 550 people... originally.


Uh huh. So he just had to strut about how awesome he was. Yep, not an AW at all.
 
2012-02-11 10:47:23 AM  

Shostie: Mentat: Sounds like he's a good father AND a prick.

Yeah, I'm going to have to go with this one.

I don't see how the two are mutually exclusive.


Because being a good father means NEVER being a prick, even in the slightest bit. It's about making your kid happy.

/Show them love, and let them lead the way
 
2012-02-11 10:48:27 AM  

Mugato: That's way too much shiat to read but just based on the gist of it, prick.



My thoughts exactly.
 
2012-02-11 10:48:58 AM  

GAT_00: So he was happy to AW before, but now it got too big for him and so it's everyone else's fault they paid attention to him.

Sure.


yep.
 
2012-02-11 10:49:14 AM  

Methadone Girls: dahmers love zombie: If my kid acted the same way, I would never videotape myself shooting her computer.

I'd make her destroy it herself.

BTW, the time to deal with that crap is not when they're sixteen. Dollars to donuts she started being an ass way before that, and it should have been addressed then. And being an "IT guy", the dad should have realized when she blocked him that it was going down the wrong path.

awwww...it's like you don't have teenagers in the house. One day they're telling you all about thier day, they're happy to see you and spend time with you, the next day thier hormones take over and you're lucky to get one word answers from them.

Right now, mine grunts his responses to me. He'll be 16 in June. Good times.


14 and 18. They know that "grunting their responses" results in suspicious disappearances of things like internet service, television service, taxi service, and the like.

People refuse to take the time to parent, then wave away bad behavior as "hormones".
 
2012-02-11 10:53:07 AM  

Mark Ratner: Because being a good father means NEVER being a prick, even in the slightest bit. It's about making your kid happy.

/Show them love, and let them lead the way


not sure if serious.jpg
 
2012-02-11 10:55:34 AM  
I really thought a few .45 slugs would do more damage to a laptop than punching holes. I figured there would be a, explosion of plastic and silicon.
 
2012-02-11 10:55:41 AM  

dahmers love zombie: Methadone Girls: dahmers love zombie: If my kid acted the same way, I would never videotape myself shooting her computer.

I'd make her destroy it herself.

BTW, the time to deal with that crap is not when they're sixteen. Dollars to donuts she started being an ass way before that, and it should have been addressed then. And being an "IT guy", the dad should have realized when she blocked him that it was going down the wrong path.

awwww...it's like you don't have teenagers in the house. One day they're telling you all about thier day, they're happy to see you and spend time with you, the next day thier hormones take over and you're lucky to get one word answers from them.

Right now, mine grunts his responses to me. He'll be 16 in June. Good times.

14 and 18. They know that "grunting their responses" results in suspicious disappearances of things like internet service, television service, taxi service, and the like.

People refuse to take the time to parent, then wave away bad behavior as "hormones".


Hilarious. If there was bad behaviour besides the grunting I would be more apt to do something other than complain. He gets good marks in school, he is home every night right after school, he helps with the dishes and chores when I ask, he doesn't ask for anything when we go out. *shrugs* What else could I ask for him besides conversation? That will come.
 
2012-02-11 10:55:47 AM  
What did she post? It's not even if TFA.
 
2012-02-11 10:57:26 AM  
She actually asked me to post a comment on one of the threads (and I did) asking what other job fields the victims of laptop-homicide were eligible for because she wasn't too keen on the stripping thing.


Until she really needs that unlimited texting....
 
2012-02-11 10:58:39 AM  
Being a good father means you are sometimes a prick. You are a parent first and a friend second, or third, or fourth.
 
2012-02-11 10:59:04 AM  
It would send her a message that it's OK to profit at the expense of someone else's embarrassment or misfortune and that's now how I was raised, nor how she has been raised.

Great, a gun totin librul.
 
2012-02-11 11:00:07 AM  
I'm going to go with good father who happened to do a prickish thing that we can all appreciate.

PC load letter to the next level.
 
2012-02-11 11:00:17 AM  

GAT_00: Methadone Girls: Her post went out to about 452 people. Mine went out to about 550 people... originally.

Uh huh. So he just had to strut about how awesome he was. Yep, not an AW at all.


the intended audience was her Facebook friends and the parents of those friends who saw her post ...

*shrugs* He was publicly lamblasted by his daughter, thought the punishment should fit the crime. Thought to include the parents of the kids she posted to. It's not something I would do, but I can see why he did it.
 
2012-02-11 11:00:39 AM  

AbbeySomeone: NFA: AbbeySomeone: My vote is on good father.

(from another thread) verbal_jizm: Seriously. If she steps over the line then he should take away the computer for an appropriate amount of time, basically setting out boundaries. What this douchebag did teaches her nothing other than that her dad is a dick and an attention whore

Actually it did teach her a few other things.

1) It's okay to act immature and destroy personal property when you feel slighted by others.

2) It's okay to belittle loved ones before everyone on the planet.

3) It's okay to misuse firearms if you're angry over something someone did to you.

4) If you get angry and destroy someones property (even if you gave it to them) then it's okay to force them to reimburse you for your destruction

5) Disrespect should always be returned and escalated.

6) Adults should never take the high road during a dispute with a child.

7) Retaliation against family members and loved ones is cool and funny

8) It's okay to pry into the personal communications of your family members if you possess the skillz to do it.

9) Once you've betrayed the trust of your children you should punish them for their immature thoughts made in private.


Gosh wouldn't the world be a much better place if we all taught our children these values?

Mr. Jackass if you're perplexed as to why your teenage daughter has no respect for you, walk into the bathroom look into the mirror and ask yourself why you taught her to be that way...

You're an idiot.
Said AW has also publicly declined any interviews.


Yet he released a four page essay where he interviews himself. Interviews give up power to the reporter. I may never understand the people sticking up for this prick.
 
Ant
2012-02-11 11:00:57 AM  
What did she post that started all this?
 
2012-02-11 11:01:32 AM  
It doesn't matter HOW he saw her post marked for herself and her friends only. The point is that he went ahead and read this post that was as good as a private conversation or diary entry, and then used public humiliation and violence to get revenge for what he wasn't supposed to read in the first place.

He asks for respect but fails to give it at every turn. He's a jackass.

I do give him credit for being smart enough to not grant interviews or go on TV... He knows that any truly honest analysis of what he did will make him look like the rotten sonovabiatch he is. He knows what he did was wrong, and so he's avoiding the spotlight.
 
2012-02-11 11:01:41 AM  

Lars The Canadian Viking: What did she post? It's not even if TFA.


She was complaining about how she had to wipe down the counters, sweep two rooms and make her bed. She also called her parents some choice words. "I have to go to bed at 10pm because I'm so tired and I have to get up at 5 in the morning to get ready for school."
 
2012-02-11 11:01:42 AM  

NFA: It's okay to pry into the personal communications of your family members if you possess the skillz to do it


ummmm

1/ facebook is NOT personal communications (private message perhaps, but posting AINT)
2/ she posted to her public page with her dog included in her friends list..... skillz ?
 
2012-02-11 11:01:42 AM  
FTFA: that's now how I was raised

Yeah...
 
2012-02-11 11:01:58 AM  
Didn't watch the video. Some teenagers need a real wakeup call. Sure there may be some possible negative messages in what he did, but his main message got through.
 
2012-02-11 11:02:39 AM  
Well, while I'm not sure HOW i feel about what he did, the article betrays an articulate, reasonable person. He may have come off as slightly boot-strappy and old-fashioned, but hey, as long as no one was actually hurt, I'm not one to judge.

Also, if this prevents her from being an online asshat and making some other kid kill themselves, I'd say a laptop is a small price to pay.
 
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