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2012-02-11 02:02:09 AM
It says "NY metro area," not "Manhattan." A car is useful in much of Queens, Brooklyn, and Staten Island (as well as Westchester and NJ, if they're counting them as "metro").
 
2012-02-11 03:46:21 AM
to paraphrase Yogi Berra, No one drives in New York, there's too much traffic.
 
2012-02-11 05:49:51 AM
I used to live near Colorado Springs. They were notorious for dropping the speed limit on a road from 40 to 25...for no obvious reason. Then a couple blocks later it would be back to 50.

Of course there were always 10 cop cars lined up waiting for someone to not slow down.

I once closed a rather sizable account at a local bank, and explained to the bank president that I was tired of running the gauntlet of speed traps just to get to his bank. Word was that he raised hell at the next city council meeting.
 
2012-02-11 09:33:09 AM
Eh, I live in Manhattan and frequently drive for work. NBD.
 
2012-02-11 09:34:42 AM
That article is about speed traps not the most difficult cities to drive.

Regardless, if you do drive in the 5 boroughs always remember: No right on red and you can't park in front of churches.
 
2012-02-11 09:36:10 AM
Meh..surely you jest subby. I drive an F150 pickup into city every week. It's actually not a bad vehicle to take to city. Great visibility over other cars, plus durable over potholes
 
2012-02-11 09:36:31 AM
NYC is not that hard to drive in, not even Manhattan. You just need to be paying attention constantly. I often travel to NYC for work and rent a car because I will have meetings all over the tri state area.

Parking, now that's a whole other ball of wax.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-02-11 09:36:40 AM
Big cities (LA) and cities with people who can use tech gadgets (Austin). I smell a selection effect.
 
2012-02-11 09:37:01 AM
boston's not nearly as bad as everyone thinks it is. you just gotta be brave, that's all.
 
2012-02-11 09:37:38 AM
I've never had a problem driving in NYC. I've always found Manhattan to be a cinch, even at rush hour. Queens is tougher, but no big deal. And I've never really noticed many speed traps.

Boston is a hundred times worse to drive in, and I know the layout of Boston much better.
 
2012-02-11 09:39:13 AM
From someone who regularly drives in Manhattan, the only place I don't want to drive is south Jersey.

The key to safe driving in Manhattan is being aggressive. The slower and more timid you are, the more likely you are to be railed by a maniac cab driver.
 
2012-02-11 09:41:01 AM
How about just following the posted speed limit and then you don't have to worry about the "speed traps."

There was a time, in the late '70s and '80s, when the highway speed limit was set to 55 mph to conserve fuel. That is significantly slower than what the interstates were designed to handle safely, and a lot of people broke the limit. Fine. (Well, not fine. Conserving fuel was and is a worthwhile goal. But understandable.)

But now that the speed limit has been raised to 75 mph in some places, there is no defensible reason to speed. Driving faster than that is *unsafe*. Our interstates are not engineered for it.

And that goes double for urban and suburban neighborhoods with pedestrian traffic. Slow the fark down.

Rural highways? They're made of gravel! You're going to spin-out, crash into a tree and die. Slow the fark down.
 
2012-02-11 09:42:23 AM
I'd like to nominate Pigeon Forge Tennessee during the Spring Grand Rod Run, Fall Grand Rod Run and Shades Of The Past Ron Run for an honorable mention.
 
2012-02-11 09:43:41 AM
publikenemy: Meh..surely you jest subby. I drive an F150 pickup into city every week. It's actually not a bad vehicle to take to city. Great visibility over other cars, plus durable over potholes

I had a 77 K20 with a free breathing 4 barrel 350. Driving in Manhattan was a riot with that piece of farm machinery.
 
2012-02-11 09:45:13 AM
I call bullshiat....

Manhattan is a grid layout, yes traffic volume is horrible just dont "block the box" and you'll be fine but it is a very easy city to drive in, almost all the streets are numbered.

After driving in Boston with their so-called cow-path layed streets NYC is a piece of cake.
 
2012-02-11 09:46:49 AM
NJ traffic is terrible, but what really kills you there is the absurd road layouts. Worst freeway interchangrs ever.

Worst traffic though, has to be Houston. 610=hell, I10=double hell
 
2012-02-11 09:47:05 AM
RodneyToady: It says "NY metro area," not "Manhattan." A car is useful in much of Queens, Brooklyn, and Staten Island (as well as Westchester and NJ, if they're counting them as "metro").

I bet you're fat and ugly and no one 'likes' you.
 
2012-02-11 09:48:43 AM
Besides Hong Kong, midtown Manhattan was the most difficult place I have ever driven. One lane can have three cars abreast with delivery boys weaving in and out. No one pays attention to the walk signals. And cops are randomly pulling over delivery vans for inspection.
 
2012-02-11 09:50:22 AM
I've never been to NYC so I have to ask, how many people actually get caught speeding withing the city? It doesn't seem like there's be enough room to get too much over the limit, especially if there's a lot of traffic.
 
2012-02-11 09:51:21 AM
I've drive around in NYC before. It was pretty damn intense, but if I could do it with almost zero years of city driving experience and a car that tended to stall, you average person can do it without a problem.

Also, Honolulu driving is pretty damn crazy as well.
 
2012-02-11 09:52:46 AM
farm7.staticflickr.com

Ah, the good ole days...

/the guy was the GBI agent assigned to make sure the city didn't remove the billboard.
 
2012-02-11 09:52:54 AM
DON'T YOU DARE drive 1 mile/hour over the limit in Normal, IL or Las Vegas, NV. Or go through a YELLOW light. You will be stopped. You will be fined. They are everywhere.
 
2012-02-11 09:57:12 AM
leevis: I've never been to NYC so I have to ask, how many people actually get caught speeding withing the city? It doesn't seem like there's be enough room to get too much over the limit, especially if there's a lot of traffic.

I'm in Manhattan almost every day and it's very very rare to see anyone stopped for any traffic violation.

To paraphrase a comedian I heard a few years ago... You can blow through a red light at 50 mph, jump the curb and screech to a halt with your bumper resting against the plate glass window of Tiffany's and a NYC cop will walk up to your window and say "Hey buddy... you can't it park there"
 
2012-02-11 10:01:07 AM
My vision of hell is a permament traffic jam on the cross bronx expressway in the middle of summer and no air conditioning.
 
2012-02-11 10:10:47 AM
I spent a few years during the early 90's driving around the country with a large dog themed bus company while this company was in the midst of a long and drawn-out strike. NYC in an Eagle 10 or MC-9 Americruiser was a piece of cake, even going up to 96th street to load casino loving seniors for a few hours of the Atlantic City fantasy.
The worst place to drive was Montreal.
 
2012-02-11 10:14:43 AM
I drive there all the time. It is not really different from any other large city when it gets down to it. Just lots of traffic. Good parking on the NY side of the Lincoln and Holland Tunnels. Easy access. if you go into mid-town like to The Q or another hotel just use valet parking.
 
2012-02-11 10:16:54 AM
Grand_Moff_Joseph: NJ traffic is terrible, but what really kills you there is the absurd road layouts. Worst freeway interchangrs ever.

Worst traffic though, has to be Houston. 610=hell, I10=double hell


290 inbound. What a joke.
 
2012-02-11 10:18:04 AM
It would be interesting to see how well traffic laws were enforced if all cities were forced to divide the ticket money up and give all citizens a tax rebate. IOW, if every ticket written COST the city revenue instead of generating it.
 
2012-02-11 10:23:46 AM
Houston is #3?? Really? First of all, the city did away with the red light cameras after it went to a voter referendum in 2010. Secondly, the trapster map shows 2 speed traps at Heights Blvd north of I-10. I live on Heights Blvd and would love to see some police presence for all the idiots who drive 60 in a 35 zone along a road that has an espalande and jogging trails between the north and south lanes. I've never seen one car pulled over in the three years I lived here.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-02-11 10:26:56 AM
Riche

Some enforcement is done because residents demand it (with the understanding that they won't be getting tickets). In Connecticut the town only gets $10 per speeding ticket. Locals still write a few tickets.

Diverting ticket revenue out of local pockets generally does make cameras go away. Cities will pay the labor cost of police but they won't pay an outside contractor the same amount.
 
2012-02-11 10:32:09 AM
Manhattan and the New York metro area is fairly easy to drive in. You just have to pay attention and go with the flow. The people who freak out the most are the out of towners insisting on driving like they're still in the suburbs. Athens, Greece is the same way, but on a Mad Max level. As long as you drive as if there are no rules (like everybody else is) you won't get into a wreck (usually).
 
2012-02-11 10:33:19 AM
RodneyToady: It says "NY metro area," not "Manhattan." A car is useful in much of Queens, Brooklyn, and Staten Island (as well as Westchester and NJ, if they're counting them as "metro").

It's useful, but you still dont want to drive there
 
2012-02-11 10:41:54 AM
I drive tractor trailer into NYC a few days a week.

It sucks.
 
2012-02-11 10:42:12 AM
Yes, Orlando deserves #7...lots of red light cameras.

Biggest problem in Orlando are the tourists....many who rent cars and drive around Orlando even though they do not drive in their home countries....and it shows. Had one moron doing 10 mph on I-4....unfolding and reading a map at the same time...blocking traffic.
 
2012-02-11 10:45:11 AM
The American Automobile Association put up two signs on 301 going toward Gainesville Florida

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2012-02-11 10:48:08 AM
leevis: I've never been to NYC so I have to ask, how many people actually get caught speeding withing the city? It doesn't seem like there's be enough room to get too much over the limit, especially if there's a lot of traffic.

You pretty much go with the cab flow, which is speed up as fast as you can when the light turns green, then stop short and be sure not to get caught in the box or you will catch a lot of shiat and a definite ticket if a cop is around.....repeat
 
2012-02-11 10:50:46 AM
#10 Austin

Like it's actually possible to exceed the speed limit there. Road system designed when Austin was a tiny college town with about 150K people in the 1970s & 1980s. Now 800K people live in the area thanks to Dell and other techies.

Worst traffic I've ever had to deal with, and I've lived in Houston, Boston, LA & DC.
 
2012-02-11 10:56:51 AM
Law enforcement in the capital of Texas has a reputation for handing out speeding tickets to motorists only one to three miles per hour over the posted limits, says Farrell

As someone who regularly drives a little over the limit and has passed speed traps in Austin going at least 5mph over I'd like to officially call this BS. I've been here 17 yrs and have yet to get a speeding ticket. Driving in Austin sucks ass, but it's mostly due to idiots doing all sorts of batshiat crazy stunts. I've seen people....

Trying to back down the on ramp of a toll road, In rush hour traffic.
Beep their horn to let you know they're running a red light
Take a right hand turn from the left turn lane across three lanes of traffic
Miss their exit on the freeway, completely stop in 65mph traffic, move to the shoulder and start backing up,
Lots of crap I've forgotten
 
2012-02-11 10:59:35 AM
I rarely see any speed enforcement on the freeways and expressways of Metro New York. Probably because there's often not a shoulder onto which drivers can be safely pulled over.
 
2012-02-11 10:59:43 AM
ManateeGag: to paraphrase Yogi Berra, No one drives in New York, there's too much traffic.

Came here to say this.
 
2012-02-11 10:59:59 AM
The only people who panic about driving in the New York City area are people who have never driven in the New York City area. While driving in the metro area can be brutal during rush hour, but it's brutal in just about any major city. And during non-rush hour times it's actually a lot better than most major cities.

The worst is obviously LA. The non-stop weaving on the highways, most notably the 405, can bring everything to a standstill. What they need to do is have dedicated lanes for people who are driving 10 mile stretches so to limit how many people are constantly changing lanes in order to shave a few minutes off their trip.

DC is second worse. It doesn't matter what time of day or year, but going driving anywhere near the city is a nightmare.

I'd also add Atlanta to the list. The highway interchanges are confusing, the signage poorly worded (for example, leaving the airport and getting on 85 South) and the neighborhoods were not designed for the number of people that drive cars in the city.
 
2012-02-11 11:01:01 AM
Jamdug!: That article is about speed traps not the most difficult cities to drive.

That, otherwise Miami would be in the top 5. Crazy, horrible drivers. At least in DC they are just crazy.
 
2012-02-11 11:01:15 AM
LindLTaylor: Grand_Moff_Joseph: NJ traffic is terrible, but what really kills you there is the absurd road layouts. Worst freeway interchangrs ever.

Worst traffic though, has to be Houston. 610=hell, I10=double hell

290 inbound. What a joke.


Haven't had to commute this way in a while, but is 59 still a parking lot right around 610?
 
2012-02-11 11:01:50 AM
Grand_Moff_Joseph: NJ traffic is terrible, but what really kills you there is the absurd road layouts. Worst freeway interchangrs ever.

Worst traffic though, has to be Houston. 610=hell, I10=double hell


Keep in mind that 610 is only so bad because tons of people use it, and tons of people use it because it's incredibly useful. If it weren't there, traffic would be truly godawful.

Now 290, they really need to expand that.
 
2012-02-11 11:02:00 AM
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2012-02-11 11:07:45 AM
DC traffic is terrible, because there aren't enough lanes on the expressways, and you have a combination of Virginia commuters who want to drive 80 and DC bureaucrats who get scared if they go 56 in a 55.

Manhattan is a lot of fun to drive in when it's not rush hour, as long as you have parking at your destination. I probably get 5 mpg and need an alignment every 5,000 miles the way I drive there, but I never use my own car.
 
2012-02-11 11:15:00 AM
Eddie Adams from Torrance: leevis: I've never been to NYC so I have to ask, how many people actually get caught speeding withing the city? It doesn't seem like there's be enough room to get too much over the limit, especially if there's a lot of traffic.

I'm in Manhattan almost every day and it's very very rare to see anyone stopped for any traffic violation.

To paraphrase a comedian I heard a few years ago... You can blow through a red light at 50 mph, jump the curb and screech to a halt with your bumper resting against the plate glass window of Tiffany's and a NYC cop will walk up to your window and say "Hey buddy... you can't it park there"


This.
 
2012-02-11 11:16:30 AM
The nearest city to me is 300 miles West, and to the East, 325 miles. North and South, nada. fark cities. Pestilent shiat holes of pestilence.

That said, Wyoming State Patrol will get you in the oddest stretches of nowhere.
 
2012-02-11 11:16:53 AM
Tax Boy: #10 Austin

Like it's actually possible to exceed the speed limit there. Road system designed when Austin was a tiny college town with about 150K people in the 1970s & 1980s. Now 800K people live in the area thanks to Dell and other techies.

Worst traffic I've ever had to deal with, and I've lived in Houston, Boston, LA & DC.


There's a reason I choose to live in the wells branch neighborhood in addition to working there. Sure, it's easily the most boring neighborhood of Austin, but my life isn't going to be exponentially improved if I move to 78704 & commute everyday. Now I can walk to work & completely forget about traffic. There's definitely an upside there.
 
2012-02-11 11:18:07 AM
superdude72: How about just following the posted speed limit and then you don't have to worry about the "speed traps."

There was a time, in the late '70s and '80s, when the highway speed limit was set to 55 mph to conserve fuel. That is significantly slower than what the interstates were designed to handle safely, and a lot of people broke the limit. Fine. (Well, not fine. Conserving fuel was and is a worthwhile goal. But understandable.)

But now that the speed limit has been raised to 75 mph in some places, there is no defensible reason to speed. Driving faster than that is *unsafe*. Our interstates are not engineered for it.

And that goes double for urban and suburban neighborhoods with pedestrian traffic. Slow the fark down.

Rural highways? They're made of gravel! You're going to spin-out, crash into a tree and die. Slow the fark down.


What makes you think that the interstates aren't engineered for faster than 75?
 
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