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(Washington Post)   At CPAC, speakers warn about the greatest threats to the America they love, like Obama, the Deficit, Obama, Iran, Obama, and, of course, low-flow toilets: " 'We Are a nation of Double Flushers' one Congressman cried"   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 177
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2012-02-10 01:42:26 PM  
I just bought a 1.28 GPF Kohler from the Home Depot, so I'm getting a kick out of this thread.

And my master bath has some sort of unholy pressure-assisted commode. (poops). You touch the handle on that thing, and it's like the contents of the bowl just vanish. It's awesome.
 
2012-02-10 01:46:01 PM  

Sun Worshiping Dog Launcher: I know that one of the main themes of being a conservative is the idea that things were better in the past, but come on. Low flow toilets? Can we not accept that the early problems with those toilets are no longer an issue and move on?


Precisely. First-generation low-flow toilets sucked, just like early CFL bulbs.

They've improved, much like other things over the intervening years. My folks have Toto low-flow toilets that they installed about 5 years ago, and they can practically flush a small child. Flushing twice had never been an issue, and the plunger only needed to be used once since they installed them. Their old, high-flow toilets used to clog all the time. Major improvement, and it saves them money.

Same thing with CFLs: they used to have terrible color, flicker, and warmup time. With electronic ballasts, flicker is eliminated. Modern phosphors allow for a much more pleasing color temperature, and they have bulbs that can get up to 100% brightness in a second or two (at the cost of overall bulb lifetime). My CFLs start around 70% brightness and reach 100% in about 20 seconds. I find this quite reasonable: when I turn on a lamp, it usually stays on for at least an hour or two, so the warmup time is negligible. Again, major improvement and a 75% reduction in my lighting-related electric bill.

LED bulbs are even better, but the cost is a bit high at present.

I live in Switzerland, where efficiency and environmentalism is taken to a new level: my apartment building is highly insulated, with rubber gaskets sealing the multi-pane windows and insulated exterior doors. Even our unit's entrance door, which opens to a common indoor stairwell, is insulated and gasketed. There are no drafts whatsoever. The city charges about $1.50 for a 35L (9.25 gallon, a bit more than half of a "kitchen size" bag) garbage bag -- it's not expensive, but it makes us think before throwing things out. Recycling is free, and most things are recyclable.

I'd love to see the US move in that direction: reducing waste and inefficiency benefits everyone.
 
2012-02-10 01:49:12 PM  

trotsky: /I may have went overboard.


"Either you are with the full flush toilet, or you are with the terrorists."

-George W. "W" Bush
 
2012-02-10 01:50:30 PM  

Deucednuisance: Dual-Flush toilets are fast becoming the norm. Just stroll around your local Home Depot and see for yourself.

I installed two Caroma Caravelle one-piece commodes in 2003. I had to ship them from Australia, because dual flush units were just not available, and I live in the DC Metro area, not some backwater.

[www.terrylove.com image 288x272]

Good looking units, I think. The smooth skirts make cleaning the exterior a breeze. Never a single clog, and I throw two big parties every year, with over a hundred people attending.

Between them and my LG Tromm washer/dryer we cut our water bill in half.

Not even ten years later: here's 41 dual flush toilets currently listed at Homedepot.com

They are the foreseeable future. Lead, follow, or get out of the way CPAC


I sure hope that is representative of the normal price for those toilets, as a appealing as a dual flush toilet is, no way in hell am I spending >$400.00 on something I take a crap in.
 
2012-02-10 01:55:54 PM  

Nadie_AZ: King is from Iowa, a midwestern state. Doesn't Iowa rely on the Ogallala aquifer? The one that people want to protect from Fracking?

He should spend some time further west, where we share water amongst ourselves.

I know, I know. A novel concept. Sharing a scarce resource. But it's an old thing- dating from when Rugged Individuals roamed the land and toilets were knowns as outhouses.


Iowa and Minnesota (the upper midwest, really) don't have the same sort of watershed problems that the midwest and and southern midwest have.

The main problem that Iowa and the Upper Midwest usually has is *too much* water.
 
2012-02-10 02:01:33 PM  
Fark you subby. The sound of a 1980 American Standard is the sound of Freedom.
 
2012-02-10 02:02:21 PM  
So it's now okay to call conservatards"half-assed four flusher(s)"?
 
2012-02-10 02:03:35 PM  
List of People Conspiring Against the GOP, and therefore, America
(LOPCATGOPATA for short):
Liberals
Democrats
Socialists
Community Organizers
Geologists
Biologists
Meteorologists
Climatologists
Atheists
Muslims
Jews
Satan
ABC
NBC
CNN
CBS
PBS
All of cable news except FNC
The New York Times
The LA Times
The Washington Post
The Associated Press
Reuters
BBC
The Guardian
Black People
Mexicans
Human Rights Activists
SCOTUS
Europe
Movie Industry
Television Industry
Environmentalists
ACLU
The United Nations
Labor Unions
Colleges
Teachers
Professors
ACORN
National Endowment for the Arts
Gays
Judges
NPR
Paleontologists
Astrophysicists
Museums (*except Creationism Museum)
WHO
WTO
Inflated tires
The Honolulu Advertiser
The Star Bulletin
Teletubbies
Sponge Bob and Patrick
Nobel Prize Committee
US Census Bureau
NOAA
Sesame Street
Comic Books
Little Green Footballs
Video Games
The Bible
CBO
Bruce Springsteen
Pennies
The Theory of Relativity
Comedy Central
Young People
whatever the hell a Justin Beiber is
Small Business Owners
Math
CPAC
Navy SEALs
The Economist
The Muppets
Iowa Republicans
Low-Flow Toilets

You forgot the FED, which is treasonous. According to Rick 'Culo-way' Perry (the only true and Jesus-Approved republican).
 
2012-02-10 02:07:28 PM  

Nadie_AZ: King is from Iowa, a midwestern state. Doesn't Iowa rely on the Ogallala aquifer? The one that people want to protect from Fracking?

He should spend some time further west, where we share water amongst ourselves.

I know, I know. A novel concept. Sharing a scarce resource. But it's an old thing- dating from when Rugged Individuals roamed the land and toilets were knowns as outhouses.


They want to defend the Oglalla from a pipe line. Just like they protected it from the thousands of miles of pipelines that have crossed it for decades.
 
2012-02-10 02:09:49 PM  

abominare: mrshowrules: abominare: mrshowrules: Diogenes: Only the GOP could cast the despoiling of our planet and leaving it in a worse state for future generations as a virtue.

Funny how Canadians who have access to 1/3 of the world's fresh water supply see the value in water conservation and yet people in Texas who have to transport water in by truck, don't.

O_o Er right, you know we dont actually truck water pretty much anywhere in texas? That nearly all of texas metro areas survive on stringently protecting and regulating our large underground aquifers? I'm willing to bet we have more ongoing water conservation programs than most states. Hell here in San Antonio most times of the year you can be ticketed for daring to water your garden outside of your 2 hour once a week slot.

Texas was trucking water last summer. Of course Texas is big on water conservation today. Out of necessity rather than forward thinking. Here's my question. The GOP actually has a fairly decent record on environmental protection, why can't they be the champion of water conservation on the National stage? Why does it have to be a Liberal concept?

Cite it please, outside of a single tiny town of like a couple hundred people I have never heard of this issue. You might get a technicality on a border town with a water source on the other side of the state border. We've had almost draconian water conservation for decades.


Why isn't Texas more concerned with contaminating what little waters sources remain? Why aren't Conservatives who have such a strong connection to the land/country not the ones that are championing environmental issues? What happened to "conserve" in "conservative"? Now global warming is myth because Al Gore. Why isn't Texas leading the charge on this? What does even a 2 degree average temperature increase mean to a place like Texas?

Link (new window)
 
2012-02-10 02:10:48 PM  
CPAC opened with the usual happy tossing of red meat.

This is literal, right?
 
2012-02-10 02:10:57 PM  
heavymetal: Why do those who claim to love the U.S. the most vocally are the least to anything to help it stay strong? We definately have an energy crisis yet they can't even be bothered to use a more efficient light bulb or toilet.

It goes way beyond "can't be bothered," unfortunately. These are people who seem to pride themselves on wasting resources "just because I can, and nobody's gonna tell me what to do."
 
2012-02-10 02:15:03 PM  

Jackson Herring: trotsky: /I may have went overboard.

"Either you are with the full flush toilet, or you are with the terrorists."

-George W. "W" Bush


"Mr. Gorbachev, flush this toilet twice." -Ronald Reagan
 
2012-02-10 02:16:33 PM  
Karac:

There's something I've never understood. If you go to a Home Depot, or a Lowes, or even a dedicated plumbing supply store, they'll have a dozen different models and styles of toilets on the showroom floor. But if you go into the bathroom, every single place will have the exact same american standard toilet in every single stall. They sell the toilets, they have employees who can install them - why not put a couple of your most popular models in your own johns and let the customers test drive them?

Two reasons.

A) Kohler et al. would rather customers see their latest models on a pristine display shelf rather than covered in pee stains.

B) Home Depot at least has a policy against reusing floor samples. I worked there for a while and on my first day on the job I had to smash up a hot tub and a bunch of toilets so they fit in the crusher dumpster. I was appalled at the waste... "Can't you donate these to Habitat for Humanity or something?" "No, too much paperwork."

On the other hand I was at a museum the other day and they had Kohler's latest waterless urinals, with a little plaque over each one describing it's features and benefits. Pretty obviously a donation, but they also had much cleaner bathrooms than a typical Home Depot.
 
2012-02-10 02:19:02 PM  

EvilEgg: sigdiamond2000: Lsherm: //fark low flow toilets

I wonder what has to happen to somebody in their lives that makes them reach the point where they're angry at a toilet.

I love my duel flush. Is that equally weird?


I really hope you didn't mean dual flush. Because if you've found a way to turn shiatting into a competitive sport, I wanna hear it!
 
2012-02-10 02:26:34 PM  

sweetmelissa31: "Mr. Gorbachev, flush this toilet twice." -Ronald Reagan


As usual, you win.


"Read my lips, NO NEW TOILETS."

-George Bush
 
2012-02-10 02:28:49 PM  
some farker mentioned it in another thread, but apparently the Men on Men Section of Craigslist DC is chock full of "In town for CPAC, looking for discreet hookup" ads.
 
2012-02-10 02:29:28 PM  

Jobber8742: I sure hope that is representative of the normal price for those toilets, as a appealing as a dual flush toilet is, no way in hell am I spending >$400.00 on something I take a crap in.


Well, your mileage may vary, but I'm on municipal water, and my Caromas have long since paid for themselves in water bill savings.

How about a converter to make your standard toilet into a dual flush for $20?

www.homedepot.com
 
2012-02-10 02:29:28 PM  
CPAC. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy...
 
2012-02-10 02:32:38 PM  
Mr. King should know that for every unnecessary toilet flush he makes, I shall not make one. While that may sound illogical since I have to poop at some point, I shall poop in the yards of nearby conservatives. Thanks to where I live, that means I can just crap in a bag and throw it at random.
 
2012-02-10 02:36:09 PM  
"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and install older less efficient toilets." -Ann Coulter on Europe
 
2012-02-10 02:36:21 PM  
Growing hops is bad for the environment. Therefore, we must past federal laws limiting the hops content of beer sold in the US.
 
2012-02-10 02:37:09 PM  

sigdiamond2000: Lsherm: //fark low flow toilets

I wonder what has to happen to somebody in their lives that makes them reach the point where they're angry at a toilet.


Well look at it. Just sitting there, waiting to eat our doodies. It needs to get a job!
 
2012-02-10 02:40:16 PM  

born_yesterday: EvilEgg: sigdiamond2000: Lsherm: //fark low flow toilets

I wonder what has to happen to somebody in their lives that makes them reach the point where they're angry at a toilet.

I love my duel flush. Is that equally weird?

I really hope you didn't mean dual flush. Because if you've found a way to turn shiatting into a competitive sport, I wanna hear it!


farm6.staticflickr.com

My bathroom.
 
2012-02-10 02:40:22 PM  
More proof to my theory that conservatives were never properly potty trained.
Also explains their obsession with sex.
 
2012-02-10 02:46:00 PM  

beta_plus: Growing hops is bad for the environment. Therefore, we must past federal laws limiting the hops content of beer sold in the US.


it is?
 
2012-02-10 02:46:13 PM  

sweetmelissa31: "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and install older less efficient toilets." -Ann Coulter on Europe


I'm reading this over and over, trying to decide if you're making a joke, or if Ann Coulter actually said that at some point. I honestly have no idea without Googling it.
 
2012-02-10 02:48:21 PM  

Sun Worshiping Dog Launcher: sweetmelissa31: "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and install older less efficient toilets." -Ann Coulter on Europe

I'm reading this over and over, trying to decide if you're making a joke, or if Ann Coulter actually said that at some point. I honestly have no idea without Googling it.


You're Poe's Law's biatch.
 
2012-02-10 02:48:36 PM  
My 2 dual flushes cost me $80 each, and Albuquerque gives a $200 water bill credit for each toilet going from 3gpm to the low 1.28 ones, so I'm directly saving money for a long time. Never clogged, but do have to use the brush a lot more than with my old ones.
 
2012-02-10 02:49:31 PM  

mrshowrules: coco ebert: Or don't flush after every number one you do.

I have a wife and two kids. They pee all night an leave layers upon layers of toilet paper in the toilet. Then, one of the kids takes a poo on top of the island of toilet paper and tries to flush the whole thing. You can't flush a toilet paper poo island and you can't even plunger it. Guess who has to deal with this paper-poo island? Daddy. Daddy has to do unmentionable things to fix the toilet. Unmentionable. If this is future Conservatives want, I want no part of it.


Please explain this to my wife.
 
2012-02-10 02:50:21 PM  
"Ask not what you can do for your country, but what your country can do for poo."

- John F. Kennedy
 
2012-02-10 02:52:51 PM  
2pep.com
 
2012-02-10 02:54:23 PM  
EvilEgg:

born_yesterday: EvilEgg: sigdiamond2000: Lsherm: //fark low flow toilets

I wonder what has to happen to somebody in their lives that makes them reach the point where they're angry at a toilet.

I love my duel flush. Is that equally weird?

I really hope you didn't mean dual flush. Because if you've found a way to turn shiatting into a competitive sport, I wanna hear it!

farm6.staticflickr.com

My bathroom.


Did you and your wife star in this commercial?
 
2012-02-10 02:55:06 PM  
Tax Boy: mrshowrules: Most Australia and European toilets have two buttons on top. A half flush (#1) and full flush (#2). Why is America losing the toilet race?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 640x446]

You're worried about losing to EUROPEAN toilets?

/where German poop-inspection shelf?


That made me laugh, I wonder how many here know what you're talking about. I most certainly do.
 
2012-02-10 02:58:10 PM  
"One small flush for pee, one giant flush for poopkind." -Neil Armstrong

/I should probably stop this
 
2012-02-10 03:06:45 PM  

give me doughnuts: NowhereMon: List of People Conspiring Against the GOP, and therefore, America
(LOPCATGOPATA for short):

Could you replace "People" with something starting with an "L"? That way the acronym would start with LOLCAT.

Kinda like Nixon's "Committee for the Re-Elect of the President" got shortened to "CREeP."


or how about Pusillanimous List of People surely Conspiring against the GOP and therefore America aka PlopScatGOPatAmerica.
 
2012-02-10 03:07:25 PM  
Of course toilets would be a big deal to the CPAC. Look at all the pieces of shiat speaking.
 
2012-02-10 03:18:02 PM  

mrshowrules: Finally, I can talk about toilets and pooping and isn't a thread jack.

Most Australia and European toilets have two buttons on top. A half flush (#1) and full flush (#2). Why is America losing the toilet race?


The only place I've seen those is Pinko-Commie-Libby-Land Portland's airport. Thought it was a great idea, myself.

Although, my parents put in low-flow toilets a couple decades ago and I don't remember ever having to double flush... Maybe because I'm not all uptight and filled with hatred and paranoia 24/7, which has got to do a number on one's digestive tract. I guess low-flows are no match for conservative rage dumps.
 
2012-02-10 03:18:53 PM  

NowhereMon: List of Liberals Conspiring Against the GOP, and Weakening Your America
(LOLCATGOPAWYA for short)


That's better.
 
2012-02-10 03:31:09 PM  
I have one of those two flush toliets. Up is for solids, down is for liquids. Works fine. In fact, what is this, 1992? The first low flow toliets sucked, um, ass, but modern ones are fine.
 
2012-02-10 03:31:58 PM  

NowhereMon: List of People Conspiring Against the GOP, and therefore, America
(LOPCATGOPATA for short):
Liberals
Democrats
Socialists
Community Organizers
Geologists
Biologists
Meteorologists
Climatologists
Atheists
Muslims
Jews
Satan
ABC
NBC
CNN
CBS
PBS
All of cable news except FNC
The New York Times
The LA Times
The Washington Post
The Associated Press
Reuters
BBC
The Guardian
Black People
Mexicans
Human Rights Activists
SCOTUS
Europe
Movie Industry
Television Industry
Environmentalists
ACLU
The United Nations
Labor Unions
Colleges
Teachers
Professors
ACORN
National Endowment for the Arts
Gays
Judges
NPR
Paleontologists
Astrophysicists
Museums (*except Creationism Museum)
WHO
WTO
Inflated tires
The Honolulu Advertiser
The Star Bulletin
Teletubbies
Sponge Bob and Patrick
Nobel Prize Committee
US Census Bureau
NOAA
Sesame Street
Comic Books
Little Green Footballs
Video Games
The Bible
CBO
Bruce Springsteen
Pennies
The Theory of Relativity
Comedy Central
Young People
whatever the hell a Justin Beiber is
Small Business Owners
Math
CPAC
Navy SEALs
The Economist
The Muppets
Iowa Republicans
Low-Flow Toilets


Latte-sipping Bears
 
zez
2012-02-10 03:43:09 PM  
gobias19.files.wordpress.com

/first thing I thought of
 
2012-02-10 04:01:58 PM  

EyeballKid: Of course toilets would be a big deal to the CPAC. Look at all the pieces of shiat speaking.


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-02-10 04:02:29 PM  

I should be in the kitchen: mrshowrules: Finally, I can talk about toilets and pooping and isn't a thread jack.

Most Australia and European toilets have two buttons on top. A half flush (#1) and full flush (#2). Why is America losing the toilet race?

The only place I've seen those is Pinko-Commie-Libby-Land Portland's airport. Thought it was a great idea, myself.

Although, my parents put in low-flow toilets a couple decades ago and I don't remember ever having to double flush... Maybe because I'm not all uptight and filled with hatred and paranoia 24/7, which has got to do a number on one's digestive tract. I guess low-flows are no match for conservative rage dumps.


You probably have Liberal passive aggressive dumps as big a size 12 Birkenstock sandal.

/+1 for conservative rage dumps
 
2012-02-10 04:03:23 PM  

dictyboy: Tax Boy: mrshowrules: /where German poop-inspection shelf?

That made me laugh, I wonder how many here know what you're talking about. I most certainly do.


I always suspected it was a way to check for intestinal parasites.
 
2012-02-10 04:13:16 PM  

sweetmelissa31: "One small flush for pee, one giant flush for poopkind." -Neil Armstrong

/I should probably stop this


Don't stop, that's one of the best ones!
 
2012-02-10 04:13:26 PM  

mrshowrules: I should be in the kitchen: mrshowrules: Finally, I can talk about toilets and pooping and isn't a thread jack.

Most Australia and European toilets have two buttons on top. A half flush (#1) and full flush (#2). Why is America losing the toilet race?

The only place I've seen those is Pinko-Commie-Libby-Land Portland's airport. Thought it was a great idea, myself.

Although, my parents put in low-flow toilets a couple decades ago and I don't remember ever having to double flush... Maybe because I'm not all uptight and filled with hatred and paranoia 24/7, which has got to do a number on one's digestive tract. I guess low-flows are no match for conservative rage dumps.

You probably have Liberal passive aggressive dumps as big a size 12 Birkenstock sandal.

/+1 for conservative rage dumps



I bought a push-button like that for my home toilets. Top button is a half flush, lower button is a full flush...
 
2012-02-10 04:16:57 PM  

sweetmelissa31: "One small flush for pee, one giant flush for poopkind." -Neil Armstrong

/I should probably stop this


I thought I told you to never stop?


"I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: 'We hold these poops to be self-evident, that all men are created with equal toilets.'" - Martin Luther King, Jr.
 
2012-02-10 04:17:26 PM  

pwhp_67: mrshowrules: I should be in the kitchen: mrshowrules: Finally, I can talk about toilets and pooping and isn't a thread jack.

Most Australia and European toilets have two buttons on top. A half flush (#1) and full flush (#2). Why is America losing the toilet race?

The only place I've seen those is Pinko-Commie-Libby-Land Portland's airport. Thought it was a great idea, myself.

Although, my parents put in low-flow toilets a couple decades ago and I don't remember ever having to double flush... Maybe because I'm not all uptight and filled with hatred and paranoia 24/7, which has got to do a number on one's digestive tract. I guess low-flows are no match for conservative rage dumps.

You probably have Liberal passive aggressive dumps as big a size 12 Birkenstock sandal.

/+1 for conservative rage dumps


I bought a push-button like that for my home toilets. Top button is a half flush, lower button is a full flush...


You aren't going to get a true Conservative to get a toilet like that unless there is one button that activates the glory hole.
 
2012-02-10 04:36:41 PM  
theorellior: dictyboy: Tax Boy: mrshowrules: /where German poop-inspection shelf?

That made me laugh, I wonder how many here know what you're talking about. I most certainly do.

I always suspected it was a way to check for intestinal parasites.


I had one in a hotel room outside of Munich. Several large, aggressive flies were in the room (no screens on the windows). I dropped a load, waited about 15min, then flushed the toilet. The high pressure blast of water swept all of the flies down the drain.

/the Aristocrats!
 
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