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(Fox News) Stupid Shyness and grieving will soon be classified as mental illnesses. In other news, pharmaceutical companies will soon have nice new drugs available to help cure you of your newly classified illnesses   (foxnews.com) divider line 68
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2012-02-10 10:12:06 AM
Medicinal alcohol?
 
2012-02-10 10:12:13 AM
They're going to try to patent booze?
 
2012-02-10 10:12:20 AM
And Aspergers will be split from autism. You win some. You lose some.
 
2012-02-10 10:16:19 AM
Bf+: Medicinal alcohol?
 
2012-02-10 10:17:06 AM
Unreal! Sounds like these scientists had a hell of a childhood to make up stupid stuff like that.
 
2012-02-10 10:17:12 AM
...not that anyone will be able to afford them...

//AMIRITE GEEZE?!
 
2012-02-10 10:17:57 AM
Why does everybody have such a spaz about this? You don't want to take drugs, then don't take them. And if you have a condition that's mental, don't go to the doctor to try to fix it.

....because you'll be waiting in a long line of people who have mental quirks, but who want medications to fix them.
 
2012-02-10 10:18:18 AM
static.tvfanatic.com

Why are you smiling?
It's the medication.
 
2012-02-10 10:19:01 AM
So being a nerd is a disease now?
 
2012-02-10 10:19:47 AM
Why does part of the article rail against oppositional defiant disorder, something that is ALREADY IN THE DSM?

Methinks they did not do their homework and forgot about the "which goes beyond the bounds of normal childhood behavior"
 
2012-02-10 10:21:38 AM
Shrinks are quacks and their pills are snake oil. They would have us believe that there is no such thing as normal, and we all need to be pilled up.
 
2012-02-10 10:21:52 AM
All_Farked_Up: So being a nerd is a disease now?

If so, then FARK is a symptom. You all might want to get checked.
 
2012-02-10 10:23:50 AM
All_Farked_Up: So being a nerd is a disease now?

Has been for a while, ever since WebMD and other sites made it possible to self diagnose shyness, social ineptitude, and intelligence as "high functioning autism", much to the detriment of people that have an actual diagnosis.

It's quite the cult these days. It's part of the reason they are considering narrowing the definition of autism, the proliferation and explosion of diagnoses.

I just wish they'd narrow the depression criteria too.
 
2012-02-10 10:23:55 AM
And they'll be very, very expensive.
 
2012-02-10 10:24:15 AM
Because there's a pill for everything; and even if you're not sick, they make a pill for that too!
 
2012-02-10 10:25:15 AM
Hell, let's make them a crime:

"You are hereby sentenced to hang by the neck until you cheer up."
 
2012-02-10 10:27:07 AM
I am not saying I agree with the changes, but I will say that after losing my younger sister to ovarian cancer, my grief caused me to be as close to "certifiably mentally ill" as I have ever been and I am half crazy to begin with! Unlike Hollywood movies, my sister's process of dying was worse than a Steven King novel. I was with her 24/7 for most of it and the things I witnessed should not be seen by any human. I could not even share the details without sobbing and/or throwing up. It was beyond horrific. Then having to return to work and act like everything was "fine" was salt in my wounds. I will carry the scars of that event for the rest of my life, but right afterward I should have been allowed some time off, if nothing else. I am not saying that everyone who loses a family member should get a paid vacation, but unless you have been through it yourself, you cannot know how much it messes up your mind. And if you are forced to go back to work, I think minimally you should get some free Valium or Medical Marijuana, or SOMETHING to help you get through it. I wish I was joking. I wouldn't wish what I experienced on my worst enemy.
 
2012-02-10 10:28:16 AM
Is it considered a mental illness for wanting to compulsively punch these junk doctors/scientists between the eyes?
 
2012-02-10 10:28:41 AM
If they made pills to make me smooth with the ladies I'd buy them
 
2012-02-10 10:31:25 AM
Your dog wants a steak-tastes-better pill?

Link (new window)
 
2012-02-10 10:32:37 AM
All_Farked_Up: If they made pills to make me smooth with the ladies I'd buy them
That's where the drug that makes people "less shy" would come into play? Just slip it into her drink and prepare for an overly affectionate & open assault on your knob.
 
2012-02-10 10:32:42 AM
Happiness is mandatory. The Computer is your friend.
 
2012-02-10 10:35:51 AM
Hug me till you drug me honey,
Kiss me till I'm in a coma.
Hug me honey, snuggly bunny,
Love is as good as soma.


/and Tiamat's version can be their jingle!
 
2012-02-10 10:35:51 AM
I know when I stopped hanging around with my imaginary pet tiger and started doing my homework on time, my mom said the pills must be working, so maybe there's something to these pills, too.
 
2012-02-10 10:36:17 AM
In Victorian times they called this "The Vapors."

Does that qualify this as "Old News?"
 
2012-02-10 10:37:12 AM
TheManofPA: Why does part of the article rail against oppositional defiant disorder, something that is ALREADY IN THE DSM?
Methinks they did not do their homework and forgot about the "which goes beyond the bounds of normal childhood behavior"


Yeah, ODD, like tons of true mental illnesses can't be diagnosed by journalists. Sorry guys, that's why real doctors go to school, workshops, do research, read journals, and otherwise immerse their entire lives in learning how best to help people with a flipped bit in their melon.

GP's ("Family Doctors", or any Doctor who you don't need a referral to see) on the other hand should never ever EVER under any circumstances whatsoever be able to even recommend a diagnosis of mental illness, they should only be able to refer - they simply don't have the necessary training and 99% of the time go for a pharmaceutical quick-fix that they don't fully understand. And that's why every kid who runs around too fast for the diabetic, obese, smoking, vallium-and-oxy-popping mother to catch up to them gets thrown on Ritalin. It's not the experts doing it - it's the hacks who are out to get their appointment fee and kickbacks from Novartis
 
2012-02-10 10:38:05 AM
I can see how persistent grief is an illness. Some people can't get over shiat, and it's not natural.
 
2012-02-10 10:39:13 AM
Oh my Ford! So they may finally approve Soma?

/Half a gramme for a half-holiday
 
2012-02-10 10:40:18 AM
Scurvy Dog: I know when I stopped hanging around with my imaginary pet tiger and started doing my homework on time, my mom said the pills must be working, so maybe there's something to these pills, too.

That comic was what made me take my son off of ADHD medication and homeschool him.

SOOOOO HAPPY I DID!!!!!
 
2012-02-10 10:42:01 AM
Most worrying was how easily the article lumped "sexual fetishes" in with the other treatable traits. Chances that those fetishes don't include things like "redheads" and "nurses" and "Grables'Daughter", but are rather restricted to "homosexuality" and "feet" are high.
 
2012-02-10 10:42:33 AM
My hypochondriac friend who keeps bugging his doctors for more pills will be overjoyed to learn about this new deverlopment.
 
2012-02-10 10:43:45 AM
being shy is a disorder, but wanting another dude to stick his cock in your ass? Totally cool!
 
2012-02-10 10:46:35 AM
I hope the FDA-approved treatment for shyness is MDMA, because I'm really shy.
 
2012-02-10 10:47:03 AM
This is one of the reasons I hate the psychiatric field in general. When I was in college I was diagnosed chronically depressed and put on a whole buttload of medications to make me feel better. Of course it couldn't have been because my boyfriend of four years cheated and dumped me, that I was 200 miles away from my family, that I had no friends because controlling boyfriend would never let me out of his sight, or the fact all I really needed to be told is "Quit farking whining and grow up already." Nope, chronically depressed because sadness and anger of ANY kind is a horrible negative emotion that humans do not need and luckily we can control those with medication.

Medication didn't work. It either made me more sad or so overly manic I would be awake for days (but luckily they have Ambien for that side effect). By the time I told them to fark off I was on Effexor maximum dose once a day, Wellbutrin twice a day, and Ambien. Oh and daily counseling from a shiatty counselor who wanted to blame my mom for all my woes in life. I love my mom and when the counselor said she was to blame I retaliated. Quit all my meds, quit counseling, decided to quit blaming other people for my problems, moved back to my hometown where I had a support system, and moved on with my life. Sure I have some days where I'm sad or angry, but guess what? Those are NATURAL emotions and okay to have as long as you don't take that out on other people. The longest I've been "depressed" since I quit being told I was has been three days...and then I once again kick myself in the ass, get over or fix my problem, and move on.

It has been 6 years since I walked away and I've never once felt the need for one-on-one counseling. I did go to premartial counseling with my husband, but it was pretty pointless since everything she made us talk about we had already discussed privately at length (kids, money, extended family, boundaries, etc.). Fark psychologists/psychiatrists.
 
2012-02-10 10:47:22 AM
Came here to mention booze. Glad to see we're done in one. And two.
 
2012-02-10 10:52:07 AM
Health care premiums are going up at software companies.
 
2012-02-10 10:54:28 AM
Zager and Evans are now confirmed as prophets.

/everything you do and you say is in the pill you took today
 
2012-02-10 11:00:33 AM
Bruxellensis: All_Farked_Up: So being a nerd is a disease now?

If so, then FARK is a symptom. You all might want to get checked.


Farkoholism?
 
2012-02-10 11:02:47 AM
So does this mean we can kill people and claim we are not liable by way of mental disorder?
 
2012-02-10 11:04:56 AM
hailin: This is one of the reasons I hate the psychiatric field in general. When I was in college I was diagnosed chronically depressed and put on a whole buttload of medications to make me feel better. Of course it couldn't have been because my boyfriend of four years cheated and dumped me, that I was 200 miles away from my family, that I had no friends because controlling boyfriend would never let me out of his sight, or the fact all I really needed to be told is "Quit farking whining and grow up already." Nope, chronically depressed because sadness and anger of ANY kind is a horrible negative emotion that humans do not need and luckily we can control those with medication.

Medication didn't work. It either made me more sad or so overly manic I would be awake for days (but luckily they have Ambien for that side effect). By the time I told them to fark off I was on Effexor maximum dose once a day, Wellbutrin twice a day, and Ambien. Oh and daily counseling from a shiatty counselor who wanted to blame my mom for all my woes in life. I love my mom and when the counselor said she was to blame I retaliated. Quit all my meds, quit counseling, decided to quit blaming other people for my problems, moved back to my hometown where I had a support system, and moved on with my life. Sure I have some days where I'm sad or angry, but guess what? Those are NATURAL emotions and okay to have as long as you don't take that out on other people. The longest I've been "depressed" since I quit being told I was has been three days...and then I once again kick myself in the ass, get over or fix my problem, and move on.

It has been 6 years since I walked away and I've never once felt the need for one-on-one counseling. I did go to premartial counseling with my husband, but it was pretty pointless since everything she made us talk about we had already discussed privately at length (kids, money, extended family, boundaries, etc.). Fark psychologists/psychiatrists.


Problem is that you're talking to fourth generation depression sufferer. Great grandfather went through ww2. Grandfather drank, smoke and ate himself to a heart attack at 42 trying to self medicate. My dad I nearly lost due to suicide. I nearly tried to commit suicide. My dad and I are on medication. I'm in thearpy. I'm sorry it didn't work for you but I would be dead if it wasn't for medication and thearpy.
 
2012-02-10 11:10:17 AM
stirfrybry: being shy is a disorder, but wanting another dude to stick his cock in your ass? Totally cool!

The shy people are far too timid to stand up and demand that it's an inborn way of life and that there is nothing wrong with them. Sticking cocks into assess is pretty much the opposite of being shy.
 
2012-02-10 11:15:52 AM
markfara: Hell, let's make them a crime:

"You are hereby sentenced to hang by the neck until you cheer up."


It practically is a crime. Every job application online these days puts you through a "personality quiz" which is designed to figure out if you are any of these things:

A. Shy, introverted, private or quiet.
B. A thief or criminal.
C. Stupid enough to cause accidents.

If you set off any of those triggers you don't even get to the interview. It's damned hard for an introverted person to find work these days. Human resources departments are operated by extroverts who seem to hate introverts, and they freely discriminate against anyone who isn't extroverted or willing to lie and pretend they are.

So it might as well be a crime. The choices for many introverts are very limited, unless you have a degree and can find a job that suits your needs. The problem is that most introvert-friendly careers require a degree, and there are only so many slots available.
 
2012-02-10 11:17:00 AM
FTA:

"oppositional defiant disorder" - a condition in which a child "actively refuses to comply with majority's requests" and "performs deliberate actions to annoy others."


Hey look, Trolling is a disease!
 
2012-02-10 11:18:21 AM
crzybtch: I am not saying I agree with the changes, but I will say that after losing my younger sister to ovarian cancer, my grief caused me to be as close to "certifiably mentally ill" as I have ever been and I am half crazy to begin with! Unlike Hollywood movies, my sister's process of dying was worse than a Steven King novel. I was with her 24/7 for most of it and the things I witnessed should not be seen by any human. I could not even share the details without sobbing and/or throwing up. It was beyond horrific. Then having to return to work and act like everything was "fine" was salt in my wounds. I will carry the scars of that event for the rest of my life, but right afterward I should have been allowed some time off, if nothing else. I am not saying that everyone who loses a family member should get a paid vacation, but unless you have been through it yourself, you cannot know how much it messes up your mind. And if you are forced to go back to work, I think minimally you should get some free Valium or Medical Marijuana, or SOMETHING to help you get through it. I wish I was joking. I wouldn't wish what I experienced on my worst enemy.

Imagine how your sister felt, watching you suffer like that.
 
2012-02-10 11:19:15 AM
I was quite surprised by the shrinks and therapists in the article that are somehow unfamiliar with the term "disordered." Example: I'm obsessive about quieting squeaks and rattles in my car, and feel a compulsion to ferret them out immediately. A penny, quietly vibrating in a map pocket that my wife can't even hear will ring in my ear like a cell phone. (Note I was a submarine officer).

So obsession and compulsion, right? But I'm not DISORDERED because it doesn't dominate my life and negatively impact my relationships, work, self-esteem, and/or health. All these new classifications are for DISORDERS, not "tics" and "eccentricities."

Rohasman: Most worrying was how easily the article lumped "sexual fetishes" in with the other treatable traits. Chances that those fetishes don't include things like "redheads" and "nurses" and "Grables'Daughter", but are rather restricted to "homosexuality" and "feet" are high.

Homosexuality has not been a DSM disorder for a while, and again it is only a disorder if it f*cks your life or someone else's up. There is something about sexual identity disorder, which is something seen in sexually traumatized kids but very rare. It is the rare instance of someone being "gay" that can be "cured," because they aren't gay they've just been WAY overly sexualized at a young age and sex integrates into everything.

The stories that came out of the treatment center for such youths where my wife worked would strip the paint of the inside of your brain.
 
2012-02-10 11:25:56 AM
Nihilist's Guide to Reticent Entropy: If you set off any of those triggers you don't even get to the interview. It's damned hard for an introverted person to find work these days. Human resources departments are operated by extroverts who seem to hate introverts, and they freely discriminate against anyone who isn't extroverted or willing to lie and pretend they are.

It would be practical for we parents, if we can figure out that our kids are shy and/or introverted, to promote work fields that suit their personality. Sales: NO. Software engineer: YES. ER nurse: NO. Nurse Midwife: Maybe.

I'd hate to be someone that got an interesting degree in a field that I too-late realized completely mis-matches my personality. I'm a type-A, serious extrovert and have worked in jobs that cut me off from talking to people and giving speeches. HATED IT!
 
2012-02-10 11:33:01 AM
If I may be serious for a moment (I know, welcome to Fark), last year I had great cause to grieve, and it truly affected the way I processed information and made decisions.

I seriously felt like I was on some sort of drug that was stopping me from understanding what was going on around me, and more importantly, how to either react or be proactive about those things. And guess what? I was. The drug was called "grief". The ultimate tailspin.

Grief is absolutely a mental illness. Usually the worst of it diminishes over time, but sometimes it can feed on itself and result in a spiral of depression and worse. When that happens, what's wrong with a psychoactive boost to get the brain out of the negative spin? You don't have to stay on it forever; sometimes it's enough just to see that there's another way to look at life and then you can move on.

Now shyness as a mental illness? I call bullshiat in a big way.
 
2012-02-10 11:36:44 AM
DSM-V takes some getting used to. My biggest problem with it is that it renames and reclassifies so much with the personality disorders that people who have real problems are going to decide they don't have a problem and never did, that psychiatrists now "admit" or "found out" that their alleged problem "never existed."

For one thing, in cutting the personality disorder diagnosis list down to four, it rolls narcissism and sociopathy both into psychopathy. It hasn't actually changed them, just renamed them, which is fine, if you don't think the clinical differences between a narcissist and sociopath are particularly important. But it also means if you are a batshiat nuts narcissist, you just might fall through the cracks and not meet the criteria of any of the four remaining personality disorder diagnoses even though your personality "difference" is having a profound effect on your life in a way that is bound to catastrophically catch up with you eventually.

I understand what DSM-V was trying to do. I think they took their pet theories of personality and mental illness and tried to make the clinical picture fit, rather than taking the clinical picture and trying to best describe observed pathology with an aim towards guiding treatment.

Not a fan.
 
2012-02-10 11:42:53 AM
That's what I take Farkitol (new window)
 
2012-02-10 11:47:07 AM
My nephew's school tried to have him see a psychiatrist because his handwriting was sloppy. In 3rd grade.

/fark the dsm
 
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