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(Philly.com)   Michael Vick named America's most disliked athlete in what was surely a dogfight   (philly.com) divider line 91
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2012-02-10 11:29:54 AM
I guess he won't be invited to the Puppy Bowl.
 
2012-02-10 11:36:51 AM
List so you don't have to wade through a Forbes slideshow:

1. Michael Vick 60%
2. Tiger Woods 60% (edge goes to Vick because he rated higher on "dislike a lot" than Woods)
3. Plaxico Burress 56%
4. Ndamukong Suh 51%
5. Kris Humphries 50%
6. LeBron James 48%
7. Kobe Bryant 45%
8. Terrell Owens 45%
9. Alex Rodriguez 44%
10. Kurt Busch 42%
 
2012-02-10 11:51:59 AM
No Tom Brady??

Oh that would just be the Fark list
 
2012-02-10 11:53:20 AM
Hmm... FTFA
Candidates are limited to those scoring at least 10% awareness with the public (hence, no hockey players).

Yet Kurt Busch is on the list, so NASCAR is more popular than Hockey. That's gotta sting.

Also Busch is the only non-minority on the list which is also pretty strange. No Ben Roethlisberger?

I mean in terms of "dirty doings" what Roethlisberger did was worse than what Tiger Woods or Kobe Bryant did, but he didn't even beat out Kris Humphries who's worse quality is being associated with Kim Kardashian.

Eh, what do I know about public perception.
 
2012-02-10 11:58:10 AM
1) why do people hate tiger woods?
2) poor kris humphries, all he did was marry a farking idiot
3) ray lewis may have killed a man...yet is not on the list
4) ben rapesisberger isn't on the list?
 
2012-02-10 12:05:59 PM
I'm surprised Kurt ranked higher than Kyle
 
2012-02-10 12:11:08 PM
Black's make up 20% of the population and 80% on the hated list. And we think that racism is dead in america.

I am surprised that Tiger is not #1 after showing the audacity to make sweet sweet love to your white women.
 
2012-02-10 12:12:05 PM
"Anyone who hates dogs and kids can't be all bad."

I can certainly understand non-sports fan dog lovers disliking Vick for the obvious reason, but you'd think actual sports fans would be angrier at, say, Lebron James screwing Cleveland, guys who got busted for steroids or, I dunno, Albert "hah hah, suckers" Haynesworth.
 
2012-02-10 12:13:53 PM
I'd actually like to see the whole list.. or at least a top 30, but I can't find anything beyond the Top 10 Forbes published, and Nielsen doesn't let just anyone lookieloo at their actual polling for free.
 
2012-02-10 12:16:56 PM

Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: Black's make up 20% of the population and 80% on the hated list. And we think that racism is dead in america.


Actually it's much less than 20% - closer to 12.6% per recent census. So yeah.
 
2012-02-10 12:24:33 PM
Ray Lewis would kill to get in the top ten
 
2012-02-10 12:25:12 PM

Best In The World: "Any man who does not like dogs and want them about does not deserve to be in the White House." - Calvin Coolidge

Mike Vick iz tha biggest douchebag in Philly since Clubber Lang. Every1 knows that but Eagle fans don't care cuz thurrrr already a d-bag fanbase so it's just like pouring water in tha ocean & trying 2 cleain it up wit a paper towel.

I would luv 2 get Vick in tha cage. Fo charity. UFC rules. He'll at least get a ref 2 ring a bell. That's mo than his dogz got. If I break hiz gotdamn ankle..well he can go have tha Eagz owna roll his pathetic ass around in a chair. Of course, nobody iz gonna sanction that fight cuz we're not in the same weight class (tha only time tha word Vick & class should eva b closely assoc8d) but that's alright. I don't need 2 add that victory 2 my undefeated record. Exhibition style. You b Apollo & I'll b Drago. Bring it MV. My fists are like turntables & Imma about 2 mix u up.


And while you train, you'll down delicious burgers and chicken, wearing your clothes made of cotton and gloves made of leather.

Save the dogs, fark the other animals, makes total sense to me
 
2012-02-10 12:28:36 PM

Dired: Actually it's much less than 20% - closer to 12.6% per recent census. So yeah.


I know you're just correcting his numbers, but please don't respond to the poser seriously.
 
2012-02-10 12:31:58 PM
NFP has a rumor that Plax would love to play with the Eagles next season. As an Eagles fan, I would despise this move. However, as a fan of the lulz, I am 110% in favor.
 
2012-02-10 12:32:35 PM

V2487: I'm surprised Kurt ranked higher than Kyle


Kurt Busch's fall from grace has been nothing short of epic. I'm not even certain what he did that warranted this level of ostracism. He's a complete asshole but not exactly unique in that regard. I'm starting to feel kind of sorry for him. The other day he made an appearance at the Monster Jam in DC. It's like he's willing to go anywhere and do anything to get back in people's good graces. He got booed, of course.
 
2012-02-10 12:34:10 PM

degenerate-afro: but he didn't even beat out Kris Humphries who's worse quality is being associated with Kim Kardashian.


Is that the only reason people don't like him? I was at the Bulls game a few weeks ago, and he was booed loudly every time he did anything good or bad.
 
2012-02-10 12:36:46 PM

Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: Black's make up 20% of the population and 80% on the hated list. And we think that racism is dead in america.

I am surprised that Tiger is not #1 after showing the audacity to make sweet sweet love to your white women.


Though I agree with you that racism isn't dead, you conveniently ignored the fact that blacks make up far greater than %20 of the population of athletes (well, i don't pay attention to car-racing and I think espn hi-lights of golf are more exciting than hi-lights of hockey).

Most of my most disliked athletes are black, but all of my most liked athletes are also black. The only not black hated I can think of is Roethlisburger . . . if Jurevicius still played he'd be there too (personal reason).

/Artest is my favorite; I like crazy people.
//Oh, and Black Griffin. Not sure what race he is.
///HATE Vick because I like dogs more than I like people.
 
2012-02-10 12:40:00 PM

Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: Black's make up 20% of the population and 80% on the hated list. And we think that racism is dead in america.

I am surprised that Tiger is not #1 after showing the audacity to make sweet sweet love to your white women.


Well to be fair, the percentages of professional athletes are a little skewed. Still a few on there that probably shouldn't be, and as far as Nascar vs Hockey goes, the biggest turd in hockey (Sean Avery) was waived, and there's really no one to pick up his slack. If you made a list of classiest players in sports, Jerome Iginla would most likely be near the top of that list.
 
2012-02-10 12:41:16 PM

Best In The World: "Any man who does not like dogs and want them about does not deserve to be in the White House." - Calvin Coolidge

Mike Vick iz tha biggest douchebag in Philly since Clubber Lang. Every1 knows that but Eagle fans don't care cuz thurrrr already a d-bag fanbase so it's just like pouring water in tha ocean & trying 2 cleain it up wit a paper towel.

I would luv 2 get Vick in tha cage. Fo charity. UFC rules. He'll at least get a ref 2 ring a bell. That's mo than his dogz got. If I break hiz gotdamn ankle..well he can go have tha Eagz owna roll his pathetic ass around in a chair. Of course, nobody iz gonna sanction that fight cuz we're not in the same weight class (tha only time tha word Vick & class should eva b closely assoc8d) but that's alright. I don't need 2 add that victory 2 my undefeated record. Exhibition style. You b Apollo & I'll b Drago. Bring it MV. My fists are like turntables & Imma about 2 mix u up.


See, this is the quality I've come to expect from you.
 
2012-02-10 12:49:23 PM
So rapists are not hated more than an animal abuser. Gotcha.
 
2012-02-10 12:55:35 PM

Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: Black's make up 20% of the population and 80% on the hated list. And we think that racism is dead in america.

I am surprised that Tiger is not #1 after showing the audacity to make sweet sweet love to your white women.


I am surprised that Tiger Woods is mentioned in a list of disliked athletes.
 
2012-02-10 12:58:58 PM

skinink: So rapists are not hated more than an animal abuser. Gotcha.


The rapist had the better season.
 
2012-02-10 01:01:38 PM

skinink: So rapists are not hated more than an animal abuser. Gotcha.


The key here is alleged rapist and admitted animal abuser. And you suck for making me defend Rapey Ben.
 
2012-02-10 01:07:39 PM

Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: Black's make up 20% of the population and 80% on the hated list. And we think that racism is dead in america.

I am surprised that Tiger is not #1 after showing the audacity to make sweet sweet love to your white women.


Hate to break it to you buddy, but Kris Humphries isn't "white". He's mixed like Obama and Blake Griffin, so it's more like 90% of the top 10.

Your Zionist Leader: the biggest turd in hockey (Sean Avery) was waived, and there's really no one to pick up his slack.


You can make the list without being an active player. For example Terrell Owens. They state the only reason hockey players didn't make the list is because they aren't famous enough. Also Kyle Busch is as big of a douche as Kurt, but he seems to be getting a pass. Who knows why some people are included and others are not.
 
2012-02-10 01:08:45 PM
I'm honestly surprised Tebow isn't on that list.
 
2012-02-10 01:10:50 PM

homarjr: I'm honestly surprised Tebow isn't on that list.


Meh, I wouldn't put Tebow on the list, but I wouldn't object to an honorary mention of Skip Bayless.
 
2012-02-10 01:11:00 PM
My girlfriend despises Tiger Woods now. It really puts me in an awkward situation because I don't care that he cheated on his wife. I only care that he hits the ball far and makes putts. Golf is better when Tiger is on his game. That's why I root for him when he plays.
 
2012-02-10 01:14:06 PM

degenerate-afro: Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: Black's make up 20% of the population and 80% on the hated list. And we think that racism is dead in america.

I am surprised that Tiger is not #1 after showing the audacity to make sweet sweet love to your white women.

Hate to break it to you buddy, but Kris Humphries isn't "white". He's mixed like Obama and Blake Griffin, so it's more like 90% of the top 10.

Your Zionist Leader: the biggest turd in hockey (Sean Avery) was waived, and there's really no one to pick up his slack.

You can make the list without being an active player. For example Terrell Owens. They state the only reason hockey players didn't make the list is because they aren't famous enough. Also Kyle Busch is as big of a douche as Kurt, but he seems to be getting a pass. Who knows why some people are included and others are not.


I've never really understood all the outright hate that TO gets. Donte Stallworth actually killed a guy and he isn't on this list.
 
2012-02-10 01:14:18 PM
Where's John Lackey?
 
2012-02-10 01:19:07 PM

Swoop1809: My girlfriend despises Tiger Woods now. It really puts me in an awkward situation because I don't care that he cheated on his wife. I only care that he hits the ball far and makes putts. Golf is better when Tiger is on his game. That's why I root for him when he plays.


I feel the same way. And also the same way about Vick, or really any athlete.

These men did terrible things, but so do a lot of men. I'm not about to judge their abilities in a sport based on what their do in their personal lives.
 
2012-02-10 01:21:20 PM

degenerate-afro: homarjr: I'm honestly surprised Tebow isn't on that list.

Meh, I wouldn't put Tebow on the list, but I wouldn't object to an honorary mention of Skip Bayless.


Apparently, he's loved by anyone that meets him. Dude is pretty awesome.

But religious nut-bags are hated by many, many people. Imagine if he was Muslim!

I only hate him because I'm a Raiders fan. Actually, I'm a little torn because I kind of want him to keep playing, but I still can't believe the farking Broncos took the AFC West this year.
 
2012-02-10 01:21:49 PM

degenerate-afro: Hate to break it to you buddy, but Kris Humphries isn't "white". He's mixed like Obama and Blake Griffin, so it's more like 90% of the top 10.


If we're being technical, Tiger Woods is mostly Chinese. The poser was likely excluding Busch and A-Rod


You can make the list without being an active player. For example Terrell Owens. They state the only reason hockey players didn't make the list is because they aren't famous enough. Also Kyle Busch is as big of a douche as Kurt, but he seems to be getting a pass. Who knows why some people are included and others are not.

As I said before I'd love to see the whole list, but it's a for-sale Nielsen product, and all I can find on teh googlez is the Top 10 Forbes published.
 
2012-02-10 01:29:38 PM

Swoop1809: My girlfriend despises Tiger Woods now. It really puts me in an awkward situation because I don't care that he cheated on his wife. I only care that he hits the ball far and makes putts. Golf is better when Tiger is on his game. That's why I root for him when he plays.


Well that's the thing. Where do you draw the line? Are we liking athletes based on athletic performances or how they live their lives? Quality of play or sportsmanship? I used to hate TO because I thought he had very poor sportsmanship. I don't hate him now because he scored touchdowns for my team and seemed to grow up, at least a little bit. He's never been in trouble with the law, as far as I can remember. I don't know why people would still hate him unless they can't let go of things that happened 10 years ago.

I used to like Suh because I thought he was standup guy. He proved me wrong. Samesies for LeBron.

I have no idea why people hate Kris Humphries, but if it's over the Kardashian thing, I'm not sure I can trust anyone who spends enough time with that show to become emotionally involved with it.

degenerate-afro: You can make the list without being an active player. For example Terrell Owens.


BZZT wrong. TO is now employed, (new window) although barely. Poor guy. Just stop, dude.
 
2012-02-10 01:36:28 PM
I hate dogs, but that doesn't make Michael Vick less of a scumbag.
 
2012-02-10 01:36:46 PM

ohioman: Ray Lewis would kill to get in the top ten


+1

I farking hate Ray Lewis more than any other player in any sport. I can't believe he didn't make the list.
 
2012-02-10 01:45:31 PM

Di Atribe: degenerate-afro: You can make the list without being an active player. For example Terrell Owens.

BZZT wrong. TO is now employed, (new window) although barely. Poor guy. Just stop, dude.


Pssh, by that metric Waivery is still employed since he currently plays for the Whales.
 
2012-02-10 01:49:53 PM

degenerate-afro: Di Atribe: degenerate-afro: You can make the list without being an active player. For example Terrell Owens.

BZZT wrong. TO is now employed, (new window) although barely. Poor guy. Just stop, dude.

Pssh, by that metric Waivery is still employed since he currently plays for the Whales.


And he should be on the list because who else on there can actually be named as a reason why a (co) GM got fired?
 
2012-02-10 01:56:18 PM

Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: Black's make up 20% of the population and 80% on the hated list. And we think that racism is dead in america.

I am surprised that Tiger is not #1 after showing the audacity to make sweet sweet love to your white women.


Is there a particular reason you're falsely correlating statistics? Is it intentional? The tested population is athletes, not the general population. Blacks aren't 20% of that population. Also, a study like this is skewed toward toward the sports people watch more often - football and basketball. It also skews toward players that are higher profiled (good or bad). The demographics of those populations are even more skewed.

Racism is most definitely alive and well in America. Just not for any of the reasons you spouted here. You're certainly not doing yourself any favors by being so disingenuous.
 
2012-02-10 02:05:25 PM

homarjr: But religious nut-bags are hated by many, many people. Imagine if he was Muslim!


Au contraire, mon frer (apologies to anyone who actually speaks French if I garbled that). I know plenty of people who like him solely based on his religious nutbaggery. If he was Muslim, I agree that he'd be despised. It always did amuse me the way Christians & Muslims seem to dislike each other so much. Has no one told them that their holy books are practically identical?

Anyway, I really do like Tebow, but it has nothing to do with his belief system. He possesses some of my favorite traits in professional athletes:

-Loose cannon, unpredictable (something that is awesome for players who don't play for my teams)
-Genuinely nice person who does good things off the field, even when he doesn't have to
-Hot
 
2012-02-10 02:14:36 PM

macadamnut: I hate dogs, but that doesn't make Michael Vick less of a scumbag.


I'm past the whole dog thing with Vick but he's just not a likeable individual either professionally or personally. A lot of his actions on and off the field since his release from prison tell me that he hasn't changed or learned much - if at all - since his days in Atlanta. Guys like Ray Lewis and Ben Roethlisberger did or may have done some pretty shiatty things, but at least they learned from their experiences and actively worked to change their attitudes and behaviors. While I might not like those guys as people I can at least respect them for understanding where they went wrong and trying to change who they were for the better. Vick is the same punk douchebag he used to be, from bailing on his teammates during workout sessions this past summer to whining about getting hit during the year.

The only thing that continues to disturb me about Vick is how quickly Eagles fans embraced him and have grown to unconditionally support him.
 
2012-02-10 02:21:02 PM

Your Zionist Leader: Donte Stallworth actually killed a guy and he isn't on this list.


don't forget the rest of the vols trio. proud vol for life, leonard little, killed a mother. another proud vol for life, dwayne goodrich, killed 2 out of 3 good samaritans helping the victims of a car fire. tennessee's tragic trio (new window)
 
2012-02-10 02:32:43 PM

Khellendros: Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: Black's make up 20% of the population and 80% on the hated list. And we think that racism is dead in america.

I am surprised that Tiger is not #1 after showing the audacity to make sweet sweet love to your white women.

Is there a particular reason you're falsely correlating statistics? Is it intentional? The tested population is athletes, not the general population. Blacks aren't 20% of that population. Also, a study like this is skewed toward toward the sports people watch more often - football and basketball. It also skews toward players that are higher profiled (good or bad). The demographics of those populations are even more skewed.

Racism is most definitely alive and well in America. Just not for any of the reasons you spouted here. You're certainly not doing yourself any favors by being so disingenuous.


Stop
Replying
To the poser troll
 
2012-02-10 02:35:09 PM

Dired: Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: Black's make up 20% of the population and 80% on the hated list. And we think that racism is dead in america.

Actually it's much less than 20% - closer to 12.6% per recent census. So yeah.


And what percentage of well known athletes?
 
2012-02-10 02:47:53 PM

yequalsy: V2487: I'm surprised Kurt ranked higher than Kyle

Kurt Busch's fall from grace has been nothing short of epic. I'm not even certain what he did that warranted this level of ostracism. He's a complete asshole but not exactly unique in that regard. I'm starting to feel kind of sorry for him. The other day he made an appearance at the Monster Jam in DC. It's like he's willing to go anywhere and do anything to get back in people's good graces. He got booed, of course.


The problem people, at least in racing, have with Kurt is how he acted toward Dr Jerry Punch. Punch is a really good guy....from his wikipedia in case you didn't know...

Punch worked as an emergency room physician before moving to ESPN in 1984 as a pit reporter for NASCAR races. In 1988, in two separate incidents, he helped with the rescue efforts after the serious wrecks of Rusty Wallace and Don Marmor. In the case of Rusty Wallace's front-stretch crash at Bristol Motor Speedway, Punch happened to be on Pit Road at the time, and as a result, was the first person on the scene before the rescue crew could be scrambled. Punch's medical training proved pivotal, as Wallace was initially unconscious following this practice-session crash. Punch revived Wallace, who was able to start the following night's race with only minor injuries, driving for about half the race before giving his seat up to a relief driver. Wallace now works with Punch in ESPN's coverage of NASCAR.

Punch is also credited with helping to save Ernie Irvan following a practice crash at Michigan International Speedway in August 1994. Punch also had aided injured pit crew members on pit road in several races in the 1990s.

While Punch was addressing a Nashville Superspeedway media luncheon he was interrupted by a loud crash from the back of the room. Punch immediately rushed from the podium to the back of the room where Jenny Gill (daughter of singer/musician, Vince Gill), a Nashville Superspeedway intern, had fainted. Punch helped revive the Middle Tennessee State graduate student. She was taken to a local care center for observation and soon recovered, according to Sean Dozier, the Superspeedway's public relations director. Punch returned to the podium and resumed his speech. He is also a renowned neurological physician.



While they are both equally bad guys, Kurt gets the edge for being a dick to a guy that would still try to save his life,
 
2012-02-10 03:26:31 PM

AdmirableSnackbar: The only thing that continues to disturb me about Vick is how quickly Eagles fans embraced him and have grown to unconditionally support him.


It's football. As far as Eagles fans are concerned, most of them don't understand why all the fuss - after all, Vick just had a hobby, amirite? It's not like it affected his game in any way, and that's the important part.
 
2012-02-10 04:20:26 PM
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FormlessOne: AdmirableSnackbar: The only thing that continues to disturb me about Vick is how quickly Eagles fans embraced him and have grown to unconditionally support him.


I support him because I too have made mistakes; he served his time and paid his dues. Anyone who continues to hate him for growing up in the south and learning the customs therein, something he did years ago, was convicted in federal court over years ago, and served his 18 month full sentence for, hates him because they're small-minded.

/most people can never look past the obvious, on anything
//because most people are utter f*cking morons
///look at how popular religion is...STILL
//"woo lets leave reality and dream up unicorn farts and chocolate chip cookie mountains because that's where I'm going after I die! I'm going to heaven to see my grandmother and all my dead relatives and " blah blah blah retards speak early and often because as long as you're talking... you ain't learnin' anything
.takes a small mind to hate, but a large heart to forgive
 
2012-02-10 04:32:56 PM

urban.derelict: [straightfromthea.com image 475x360]

FormlessOne: AdmirableSnackbar: The only thing that continues to disturb me about Vick is how quickly Eagles fans embraced him and have grown to unconditionally support him.

I support him because I too have made mistakes; he served his time and paid his dues. Anyone who continues to hate him for growing up in the south and learning the customs therein, something he did years ago, was convicted in federal court over years ago, and served his 18 month full sentence for, hates him because they're small-minded.

/most people can never look past the obvious, on anything
//because most people are utter f*cking morons
///look at how popular religion is...STILL
//"woo lets leave reality and dream up unicorn farts and chocolate chip cookie mountains because that's where I'm going after I die! I'm going to heaven to see my grandmother and all my dead relatives and " blah blah blah retards speak early and often because as long as you're talking... you ain't learnin' anything
.takes a small mind to hate, but a large heart to forgive


*whatthefarkamireading.jpg*
 
2012-02-10 05:14:11 PM

urban.derelict: I support him because I too have made mistakes; he served his time and paid his dues. Anyone who continues to hate him for growing up in the south and learning the customs therein, something he did years ago, was convicted in federal court over years ago, and served his 18 month full sentence for, hates him because they're small-minded.


While I think time served is just that, I also think it's naive to believe people should start liking someone because their debt to society is paid.

There are athletes who I believe don't deserve most of the crap they get. Even one I pick on like LeBron and Tebow. That being said there are people that can't be legitimately defended. Vick is one of them.

There's are differences between having a big ego (Ochocinco, LeBron), having a self-destructive personality (TO, MettaWorldPeace), and being someone who hurts others (Vick, Busch). It doesn't matter if the "others" hurt are human or not. People in the first category will eventually be forgiven once they are no longer center stage. People in the second category more often do more harm to themselves; in time much of the hate for them may turn into pity (although a lot will still hate them). People in third category are frozen in time back to the event where they hurt that other party no matter what they do.

Ray Lewis will always be a killer even though he was never proven to be directly involved.
Roethlisberger will always be a rapist even if he was never proven to be more than a gigantic idiot with bad judgement.
Donte Stallworth will always be that guy who ran over a dude with his car.
Michael Vick will always be a Dog Killer whether he goes on after his playing days are over to be a vet who saves 1000x the dogs that died in his fighting ring.
Kobe, Tiger and Bill Clinton will always cheat on their wives with the first white girl they come across.

Public perception doesn't have to follow realistic changes in the individual's attitude and behavior and in most cases it won't. Since the public doesn't know these people personally, they can only base their judgement of them from their worst moment.

Animal abuse is something that will stick with him even after he's dead. Yes there may be a double standard because people don't complain about how abused the veal they are eating was before it was slaughtered, but there are double standards in life and you'll just have to get use to that.
 
2012-02-10 05:20:58 PM
Dear Nike,

I love that total calorie counter thingy idea. And I am going to buy one.

...just as soon as Vick is electrocuted and/or drowns.
 
2012-02-10 05:36:46 PM
degenerate-afro:

Pretty much everything you just posted is -correct-, but I don't think it's -right-. What I mean is that you do a good job of explaining why things are the way they are (re: public perception), but that things are the way they are is, in my opinion, a failing of society.

Vick for example.. it can be argued that because of his spotlight, in addition to direct actions he's taken upon his release, he's saved far more dogs than he's harmed. While I don't like Vick himself, I've forgiven him and it bothers me (quite a lot actually) when people wish grievous harm or worse upon him, or say he's not deserving of a second chance.
 
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