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If you want the show that has social media all over it, I suggest Caprica. Not that it lasted long.

For the same reason that the whale Probe destroyed a city called "Leningrad." Sci-fi writers sometimes get the future wrong.

I imagine social media quickly disolved when the phasors that could vaporize a body were invented.

PC LOAD LETTER: Voice is insecure, and yes, this "come here and take a look" is stupid.

So if I call someone about something... is there a record?

If I text or email someone ... well...

yeah... voice is insecure.


And as far as the "future" in Trek... social media will have been phase out as people evolved beyond being AW that need to broadcast every time they go take a dump.

But as far as it's evolution in Trek, they are able to find anyone that they want to contact fairly easily, so I gather that in time, people would have a personal info page and have things on it that they'd set to share with others, but not obsessed about "likes" and following other people lives, most have a life of their own, something many lack today. We see in some episodes things like personal logs, and images and such available to others that are of value for information purposes... well heck....

I imagine that people of the future realized that they weren't all 13 years old and decided to communicate like human beings.

Maybe because Social Media is a fad and will die off within a decade?

It's funny what kind of technology captures the imagination of futurists (propulsion, matter transport and replication, energy weapons) and what doesn't (communications, healthcare).

Homer Nixon: It's funny what kind of technology captures the imagination of futurists (propulsion, matter transport and replication, energy weapons) and what doesn't (communications, healthcare).

Eh? Communications is covered at least as much as propulsion. And Healthcare is omnipresent.

Teknowaffle: Because the concept of social media couldn't be fathomed back then because it was about 20 years ago.

Why would someone waste their time writing that stupid article?

Because if he just wrote up a "I've been re-watching DS9 and it's really great and here's why" article, no one would care.

Because DS9 writers ripped their plot off of Babylon 5?

because THEY BOTH SUCK!

ok what do i win now?

FTFA: I've been struck particularly by two things missing from the DS9 universe - one that was unpredictable in the 1993-99 span of the series, and one that was predictable but unattractive from the creators' standpoint. Nobody uses social media, and nobody wastes time.

On a hunch, someone with so much drive, that joins a quasi-military service with no expectation of pay, but solely, as the character Picard put it in First Contact, "to better ourselves", they've got better things to do than piss around and waste time with Farmville.

Just a hunch.

Confabulat: netweavr: Maybe because Social Media is a fad and will die off within a decade?

I don't see that happening. You might be an angry contrarian who refuses to get a Facebook account because you're old school and all, but it's not going anywhere soon. Definitely not in a decade.

I farking *HATE* this attitude. People think I'm insane because I don't have, want, or seem to need a Facebook account. I don't need a constant diarrheal stream of every insignificant event in the life of every person I've ever met to make me feel "connected". It's not I have some problem with social media as a concept...I just couldn't give two shiats about what happened while you were at the mall, and another set of 500 pictures of your crotchfruit attempting to eat mashed peas isn't cute or funny to me. Throw in some basic privacy concerns and some legitimate data security issues and there's no way for Facebook to make a compelling case to me to open an account - especially an account that requires an act of Congress to close and have your data removed (not that it'll ever be removed from the backups).

Homer Nixon: It's funny what kind of technology captures the imagination of futurists (propulsion, matter transport and replication, energy weapons) and what doesn't (communications, healthcare).

Mercy Point was a series about a medical space station in the 23rd century. It lasted 8 episodes.

IMHO, I think propulsion/transport and weapons are the easiest topics to direct to an audience. We get that things go faster and that weapons go boom bigger. However, really notably different kinds of technology tend to appear rarely, it seems. Most Star Trek travel goes in a straight line and ship and personal weapons are line-of-sight. For example, they never made the leap to realize that their transporters were an incredibly potent weapon, say for beaming the hostile crew into space, beaming mass components of the ship away, etc.

bemis23: Confabulat: netweavr: Maybe because Social Media is a fad and will die off within a decade?

I don't see that happening. You might be an angry contrarian who refuses to get a Facebook account because you're old school and all, but it's not going anywhere soon. Definitely not in a decade.

I farking *HATE* this attitude. People think I'm insane because I don't have, want, or seem to need a Facebook account. I don't need a constant diarrheal stream of every insignificant event in the life of every person I've ever met to make me feel "connected". It's not I have some problem with social media as a concept...I just couldn't give two shiats about what happened while you were at the mall, and another set of 500 pictures of your crotchfruit attempting to eat mashed peas isn't cute or funny to me. Throw in some basic privacy concerns and some legitimate data security issues and there's no way for Facebook to make a compelling case to me to open an account - especially an account that requires an act of Congress to close and have your data removed (not that it'll ever be removed from the backups).

Confabulat: netweavr: Maybe because Social Media is a fad and will die off within a decade?

I don't see that happening. You might be an angry contrarian who refuses to get a Facebook account because you're old school and all, but it's not going anywhere soon. Definitely not in a decade.

Why would it stay around? It's current form is quickly becoming archaic and hacky.

netweavr: Homer Nixon: It's funny what kind of technology captures the imagination of futurists (propulsion, matter transport and replication, energy weapons) and what doesn't (communications, healthcare).

Eh? Communications is covered at least as much as propulsion. And Healthcare is omnipresent.

My point is, as the article notes, the way people communicate on the show is already dated only ten years after the episodes were written. This is compared to replication, warp travel and phasers for example, which still hold up as exotic, futuristic technologies we haven't figured out yet.

Slightly different with healthcare - but my issue there is the writers tend to rely on "magic wand" therapies which always struck me as a bit lazy.

bemis23: Confabulat: netweavr: Maybe because Social Media is a fad and will die off within a decade?

I don't see that happening. You might be an angry contrarian who refuses to get a Facebook account because you're old school and all, but it's not going anywhere soon. Definitely not in a decade.

I farking *HATE* this attitude. People think I'm insane because I don't have, want, or seem to need a Facebook account. I don't need a constant diarrheal stream of every insignificant event in the life of every person I've ever met to make me feel "connected". It's not I have some problem with social media as a concept...I just couldn't give two shiats about what happened while you were at the mall, and another set of 500 pictures of your crotchfruit attempting to eat mashed peas isn't cute or funny to me. Throw in some basic privacy concerns and some legitimate data security issues and there's no way for Facebook to make a compelling case to me to open an account - especially an account that requires an act of Congress to close and have your data removed (not that it'll ever be removed from the backups).

I'm impressed you were able to type all that out on your iPhone while riding your fixie, smoking a corn-cob pipe, and drinking PBR.

Homer Nixon: netweavr: Homer Nixon: It's funny what kind of technology captures the imagination of futurists (propulsion, matter transport and replication, energy weapons) and what doesn't (communications, healthcare).

Eh? Communications is covered at least as much as propulsion. And Healthcare is omnipresent.

My point is, as the article notes, the way people communicate on the show is already dated only ten years after the episodes were written. This is compared to replication, warp travel and phasers for example, which still hold up as exotic, futuristic technologies we haven't figured out yet.

Slightly different with healthcare - but my issue there is the writers tend to rely on "magic wand" therapies which always struck me as a bit lazy.

Warp travel is comparable to sub-space communications. The ability to easily connect with people light-years away is unfathomable with current technology. Even if we had the speed, we don't have the power to keep that communication coherent. On top of that everyone has instant communication with anyone else on the station, simply by saying their name.

If you really want to delve into it, examine how the Borg are constructed. They're the personification of social communications.

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I tried running a sci-fi RPG a couple of years ago, and realized that even recent SF (games, books, movies) really didn't realize how utterly ubiquitous computing was becoming in our society. What SF material do you know of that actually anticipated people having small, networked computers that they could not only carry around in pockets, but play stupid video games on?

I decided to make computer networks a bizarre human obsession that other species could barely even understand. "Soon you humans will be farking the damn computers, won't you?"

Confabulat: netweavr: Confabulat: netweavr: Maybe because Social Media is a fad and will die off within a decade?

I don't see that happening. You might be an angry contrarian who refuses to get a Facebook account because you're old school and all, but it's not going anywhere soon. Definitely not in a decade.

Why would it stay around? It's current form is quickly becoming archaic and hacky.

Because our cell phones are rapidly becoming our cell personal PCs that record our lives. That's not going away; that's increasing. And there is a generation of people who can't imagine life without their cell phone.

So you think it's a fad, huh? I guess them video games will go away when the kids remember how cool baseball is too.

I think it's a stop-gap. A baby-step on the way to something else.

Not sure there is a conspiracy or anything, but I have noticed a lot of the TNG cast are on twitter.

netweavr: Homer Nixon: netweavr: Homer Nixon: It's funny what kind of technology captures the imagination of futurists (propulsion, matter transport and replication, energy weapons) and what doesn't (communications, healthcare).

Eh? Communications is covered at least as much as propulsion. And Healthcare is omnipresent.

My point is, as the article notes, the way people communicate on the show is already dated only ten years after the episodes were written. This is compared to replication, warp travel and phasers for example, which still hold up as exotic, futuristic technologies we haven't figured out yet.

Slightly different with healthcare - but my issue there is the writers tend to rely on "magic wand" therapies which always struck me as a bit lazy.

Warp travel is comparable to sub-space communications. The ability to easily connect with people light-years away is unfathomable with current technology. Even if we had the speed, we don't have the power to keep that communication coherent. On top of that everyone has instant communication with anyone else on the station, simply by saying their name.

If you really want to delve into it, examine how the Borg are constructed. They're the personification of social communications.

I guess in the end they're all plot devices. I feel like the writers spent more time fleshing out the conceits of warp drive and replication and so on compared to how subspace messages and dermal regenerators were sort of taken for granted.

bemis23: Confabulat: netweavr: Maybe because Social Media is a fad and will die off within a decade?

I don't see that happening. You might be an angry contrarian who refuses to get a Facebook account because you're old school and all, but it's not going anywhere soon. Definitely not in a decade.

I farking *HATE* this attitude. People think I'm insane because I don't have, want, or seem to need a Facebook account. I don't need a constant diarrheal stream of every insignificant event in the life of every person I've ever met to make me feel "connected". It's not I have some problem with social media as a concept...I just couldn't give two shiats about what happened while you were at the mall, and another set of 500 pictures of your crotchfruit attempting to eat mashed peas isn't cute or funny to me. Throw in some basic privacy concerns and some legitimate data security issues and there's no way for Facebook to make a compelling case to me to open an account - especially an account that requires an act of Congress to close and have your data removed (not that it'll ever be removed from the backups).

I'm on Facebook, but I can more or less take your post and switch out "Facebook" for "Twitter" or texting in general. I've already seen the quality of my social interactions drop because my friends have diarrhea of the thumbs while we're hanging out. Too many people would rather spend their social time posting "Hanging out with my buds!" on Twitter than spend that time actually hanging out with their buds.

This gradually increasing willingness to cast off privacy and expectations of same in favor of some kind of weird false feeling of "connectedness" kinda freaks me out. Mostly because while some people are willingly casting their privacy to the winds, an increasing number of people are creating social pressure for others to do so, too. I know people who check their work email account all day, every day, from their phones, and they expect others to be doing so, as well. Meanwhile, here I am, no cell phone at all, enjoying my weekends and evenings with my wife and leaving work stress at the office.

Why does't DS9 use social media? Because it's on the list of things, like war, hunger, disease, and poverty, that humans evolved beyond in the centuries to follow.

Within 20 years or so we will be able to think-type and send our thoughts wirelessly. An implant is all that this will require. It will not even be surprising. This will lead to thought hacking and stealing. Also your wife will hit you with her purse more often when you pass a hot woman.

Confabulat: netweavr: Confabulat: netweavr: Confabulat: netweavr: Maybe because Social Media is a fad and will die off within a decade?

I don't see that happening. You might be an angry contrarian who refuses to get a Facebook account because you're old school and all, but it's not going anywhere soon. Definitely not in a decade.

Why would it stay around? It's current form is quickly becoming archaic and hacky.

Because our cell phones are rapidly becoming our cell personal PCs that record our lives. That's not going away; that's increasing. And there is a generation of people who can't imagine life without their cell phone.

So you think it's a fad, huh? I guess them video games will go away when the kids remember how cool baseball is too.

I think it's a stop-gap. A baby-step on the way to something else.

Oh I agree it will change. It may not be Facebook or whatever brand name it is now, but the whole interconnected thing isn't going away. That's social media, and that's was I was responding to in your orig. posting. Social media will change and evolve, but you can't call it a fad.

Social "media" dies and is replaced by social "communication" or some crap. I mean it's the name and innate connotation (Facebook, MySpace, Twitter) I was going after, not the concept. The concept includes pen pals and knitting circles for Tebow's sake, it's been around longer than America.

Why doesn't anyone on Deep Space Nine use Twitter?

Why doesn't anyone on io9 use hspace and vspace, or the CSS margin equivelent,when placing images in text?

Confabulat: bemis23: I farking *HATE* this attitude. People think I'm insane because I don't have, want, or seem to need a Facebook account. I don't need a constant diarrheal stream of every insignificant event in the life of every person I've ever met to make me feel "connected". It's not I have some problem with social media as a concept...I just couldn't give two shiats about what happened while you were at the mall, and another set of 500 pictures of your crotchfruit attempting to eat mashed peas isn't cute or funny to me. Throw in some basic privacy concerns and some legitimate data security issues and there's no way for Facebook to make a compelling case to me to open an account - especially an account that requires an act of Congress to close and have your data removed (not that it'll ever be removed from the backups).

Oh yeah, you don't seem to be angry or contrarian at all. Not in the least. hehehe

Heh, you have a point. Truthfully, I don't care if other people want to use FB. I just want to stop receiving invitations to join FB, and I want to stop hearing about how I'm crazy for not wanting an account. Twitter doesn't bother me as much, but that's probably because no one is ever begging me to follow them or whatever.

Homer Nixon: netweavr: Homer Nixon: netweavr: Homer Nixon: It's funny what kind of technology captures the imagination of futurists (propulsion, matter transport and replication, energy weapons) and what doesn't (communications, healthcare).

Eh? Communications is covered at least as much as propulsion. And Healthcare is omnipresent.

My point is, as the article notes, the way people communicate on the show is already dated only ten years after the episodes were written. This is compared to replication, warp travel and phasers for example, which still hold up as exotic, futuristic technologies we haven't figured out yet.

Slightly different with healthcare - but my issue there is the writers tend to rely on "magic wand" therapies which always struck me as a bit lazy.

Warp travel is comparable to sub-space communications. The ability to easily connect with people light-years away is unfathomable with current technology. Even if we had the speed, we don't have the power to keep that communication coherent. On top of that everyone has instant communication with anyone else on the station, simply by saying their name.

If you really want to delve into it, examine how the Borg are constructed. They're the personification of social communications.

I guess in the end they're all plot devices. I feel like the writers spent more time fleshing out the conceits of warp drive and replication and so on compared to how subspace messages and dermal regenerators were sort of taken for granted.

Star Trek's main theme is communication. Everything else is a means to that end. It's the idea that the only thing that matters is our ability to effectively communicate with each other. Through that, all conflicts can be resolved and all problems can be solved. Same theme as Ender's Game.

Then television-studios started demanding ratings.