FAKE!

Fix the cigarette lighter.

Quiet devices they are not.

OBBN: Rusty Shackleford: [www.wearysloth.com image 320x240]

The fuel system leaks all over the place!

It's a beautiful tank!

Why do you have to hit me with those negative waves so early in the morning???

Needs more Rush.

Needs (in order of importance):
-Driver who has been in a tracked vehicle before
-Proper diesel V12
-Little bit o' grease on some of those movin' bits...

awesome!!!

It's a wasted trip, baby. Nobody said nothing about locking horns with no Tigers.

Unrelated but earlier today I was trying to find "When the Tigers Broke Free" by Pink Floyd on Spotify and they only had a karaoke version.

WTF would anyone choose to sing that song at a karaoke bar?

LoneVVolf: Needs (in order of importance):
-Driver who has been in a tracked vehicle before
-Proper diesel V12
-Little bit o' grease on some of those movin' bits...

Tiger I's didn't use diesel engines.

http://www.alanhamby.com/maybach.shtml

It doesn't look like it has any ice cleats on the tracks, which may also make it harder to drive on the ice.

It looks like they mixed and matched between early, mid, and late versions.

It looks like they went with the late model solid steel wheel layout, but the wheels look like the early model rubber ones. However, they may be solid steel, and the rubber is just painted on. In that case a steel roadwheel on a steel track is going to make some noise.

http://www.alanhamby.com/suspension.shtml

The single head light is typical of a late model, but the smoke dischargers are typical of an early model. I wonder what specific version they were going for?

http://www.alanhamby.com/changes.shtml

It's a mark six... And we've got it by the ass!

JarHeadBinks: It's a mark six... And we've got it by the ass!

I think the line was "mox nix... And we've got it by the ass!"


"

: : "macht nichts" - 'never mind' also "schon gut"

: : "das macht nichts - 'this/that doesn't matter'

: : "es machtnichts wenn" - 'there's no harm if...'

: : The spelling "mox nix" has become popular, so much so that I dare say Webster should consider entering it in the dictionary as a colloquial English express with roots in German. I even use 'mox nix' sometimes because readers are more likely to recognize the expression in this form.

: : Guten Tag,
: : David



I was going through somebits and pieces left over from when my father was stationed in Germany in the early 60's and came across a pamphlet intended to teach basic German phrases to American GI's. "Mox Nix" was one of the expressions used along with "ya" for "yes" ("ja" auf Deutsche). I suppose the military must have thought German spelling beyond the reach of the average soldier. I don't have proof but I think this could be the origin of this expression spelled this way. The pamphlets looked like they were produced in the 40's judging by the hairstyles and shoulder pads of the German femme fatales in the book."


http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/20/messages/397.html


Granted the actual meaning doesn't make much sense in the context of the scene. But Donald Sutherland's delivery makes it work.

And FYI, the 'Tigers' in Kelly's Heros were mockups built on Russian T34 chassis.

The Tiger is a Panzer VI - Hence Mark Six.

You get my caviar whiz boy?

It looks a little on the small side..like the proportions are a bit off. But, all in all, it's a mother beautiful replica! I would like a dozen please.

I keep seeing this movie mentioned in Fark threads...I get the sense I need to see it?

Once I get home from this trip I shall netflix it. Hopefully it is streaming...

The only way I got to keep them Tigers busy is to LET THEM SHOOT HOLES IN ME!

Definitely an antisocial type. Woof, woof, woof! That's my other dog imitation.

and of course...

We see our role as essentially defensive in nature. While our armies are advancing so fast and everyone's knocking themselves out to be heroes, we are holding ourselves in reserve in case the Krauts mount a counteroffensive which threatens Paris... or maybe even New York. Then we can move in and stop them. But for 1.6 million dollars, we could become heroes for three days.

yeah, baby....

JarHeadBinks: The Tiger is a Panzer VI - Hence Mark Six.

You're right, I'm wrong.

Just rewatched the scene, looked up the script, and the line is as you said.

My first reaction was this sucks, because having Oddball throw around German slang in the heat of battle was cooler to me than having Oddball suddenly being nomenclaturly correct in that particular moment. So my original interpretation was wishful thinking on my part.

In my defense, Mark III are Mark IIIs. Mark IV are Mark IVs. It's about 50/50 between calling it a Panther or a Mark V. But virtually every reference to a Tiger tank is Tiger. Here's the most painfully accurate site I could find, and even they call a Tiger a Tiger. Nobody refers to a Tiger as a Mark VI when generally speaking.

http://www.panzerworld.net/


Since I want to go on liking the movie in general, and the Oddball character in particular, I'll rationalize it this way. Oddball, being odd, and obsessed with tanks, is the one uniquely odd American who would accurately call a Tiger a Mark VI in the middle of a battle.

/I feel bettter now.

steering issue is that the design is missing quite a few tons of inertia

sounds nice tho

Asmenoth: It looks a little on the small side..like the proportions are a bit off. But, all in all, it's a mother beautiful replica! I would like a dozen please.

I think part of the reason it looks 'small' is because it is not in combat order. It doesn't have camo paint or ground camo, which intentionally distorts the appearence. It doesn't have the typical add ons like spare track sections or tow cables that would be hung on the exterior. These would 'bulk up' the profile that one is use to seeing. Pus interior space was very limited, so crews stored their personal gear in packs strapped to the outside of the tank, bulking up the profile even more. it has the late model/transport 2 road wheel setup which reduces the apparent width. And mech transport was actually quite scarce in the german army. So given the internal confines both crew and nearby troops rode on the outside, bulking up the profile even more.

Case in point

The Mk IV was known for its ability to cause opposing troops to laugh so hard they unable to fire their weapons or run away.

subby here. just rewatched kelly's heroes..man, it is one of the most beautiful movies ever made.

"that nut has got to be nuts!"

out!

also, i once swan in donald sutherlands pool, and drank his beer. did not meet him unfortunatly, but i did meet keifer.

Why does tank armor sometimes seem to be built up entirely of welds?

Is it just to make that face of the steel stronger? Odd that something as strong as a tank would need such mickeymouse armoring.

studebaker hoch: Why does tank armor sometimes seem to be built up entirely of welds?

Is it just to make that face of the steel stronger? Odd that something as strong as a tank would need such mickeymouse armoring.

I wonder about that too; taking a guess: presumably, these parts are made of cast iron. To make these, you need a mold, a negative so to speak. Because these were made in a time of war, they didn't need a nice surface, they just scraped the thing out. An added advantage would be that the metal, when poured, cools off faster due to the bigger surface. Also, a corrugated surface would be stronger, and better able to deflect shells.
Again, I'm guessing, I may be completely wrong.

lazyguineapig33: studebaker hoch: Why does tank armor sometimes seem to be built up entirely of welds?

Is it just to make that face of the steel stronger? Odd that something as strong as a tank would need such mickeymouse armoring.

i can answer that. the texture you see isnt welding, it is a coating added to some tanks called zimmerite. it was meant to defeat magnetic explosives. infantry would run up to the tank, plant the mine on a face of armor, then run like hell. zimmerite made it so the mine woulndt stick to the armor face.

Hah, I was completely wrong then. Thanks much for the info!