retired a General and his son Ronald was Killed in Vietnam.

Wha-whal, I'd.. I'd juhst like ta SAY, I think that'd be perfectly fine, if y' ask me.

You know that's not a bad idea! I'd go see it.

AirForceVet: I doubt he would have appreciated a movie about his military service while he was alive though, IMHO.

You're probably right.

While it can still happen, reaching Colonel these days is a little bit more difficult. It doesn't matter - Stewart gets respect for fighting in the "right war".

Absent Nazis and suicidal Japanese, the "world" doesn't think any war is justified. WWII was the last justified war. Everything else since then has been a "skirmish".

It's going to take an aggressive nuclear detonation to start the next "justified" war. It will happen, but when it does, plenty of people will deny that it did. They will also disagree about who did it.

That's why that war will last forever.

Mentat: John Wayne?
Ronald Reagan?

C'mon, just tell me!

Name me a homo and two chicken hawks.



/Note: The same name can be used multiple times.

violentsalvation: Ah, back before the communists took over Hollywood.

a military draft is pretty damn communist

Obtuse_Otter: violentsalvation: Ah, back before the communists took over Hollywood.

a military draft is pretty damn communist

As a person that got drafted in 1970, I didn't feel that way ... In fact I felt it was quite Democratic* of the American people.

/Truman signed the Selective Service Act of 1948

They did. It was called "Jimmy Stewart: Attention Whore".

USN guys- what would the staff on an aircraft carrier be called in WW2? Sailors doesn't work, seamen(unless you have a designation) doesn't work on Google. WTF? I'm trying to find if one of my neighbors bullshiatted me in the 70's or not. Thanks in advance. He was a bastard as he grew older, but he said he'd traded scotch for ice cream with Boyington's group when Baa, Bah, Black Sheep came out in 76. Ought to be pretty easy to figure out if it could have been true.

Phoenix_M: retired a General and his son Ronald was Killed in Vietnam.

There's a famous story about Jimmy and John Wayne. They were out in public and stumbled upon a huge mob of protestors during the Vietnam war. Evidently someone was carrying a huge Vietnamese flag in the group. Stewart's son had just been killed and he was pretty upset about it.

Wayne got up and went into the crowd... so deep that Stewart couldn't see him anymore. Next thing he knew that flag came down real quick.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0048667/

_{not really}

AND he found the time to smuggle a holy relic out of Tibet in a suitcase full of lady's underwear . (new window)

Shadow Blasko: Aar1012: They did make a movie about Audie Murphy. It stared Audie Murphy.

Quite aware of that

So why were you expecting to find him mentioned when the subject is movie stars that didn't have movies made about them?

Mentat: borg: Mentat: John Wayne?
Ronald Reagan?

C'mon, just tell me!

Reagan was in the Army but had poor eyesight and was limited in what he could do.

He didn't seem to have a problem seeing Communists everywhere.

You don't need good eyesight just a sense of smell. The stench of a commuinist is pretty strong. Plus if you looked at 1946 to1 990 maps of the world they were pretty much everywhere.

Army Air Corps Core

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CarnySaur: They did. It was called "Jimmy Stewart: Attention Whore".

It's okay, Sparky. Show us on the doll where your daddy touches you at night.

*tries to view link
*no script memory usage explodes to 123980GB


/ wtf is this site bullshiat

Snopes has a good analysis of it here (new window)

Um... no. That isn't Snopes. Not even close.


/Loves me some Jimmy Stewart. And his invisible rabbit friend.

Tsar_Bomba1: Wayne got up and went into the crowd... so deep that Stewart couldn't see him anymore. Next thing he knew that flag came down real quick.

Too bad he wasn't as brave during the war, preferring Hollywood and his Mexican mistress to tearing down Nazi flags.
Unlike a long list of actors who put it on the line against real soldiers instead of hippies.

Charles Durning

was at the malmedy Massacre
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Tsar_Bomba1: Phoenix_M: retired a General and his son Ronald was Killed in Vietnam.

There's a famous story about Jimmy and John Wayne. They were out in public and stumbled upon a huge mob of protestors during the Vietnam war. Evidently someone was carrying a huge Vietnamese flag in the group. Stewart's son had just been killed and he was pretty upset about it.

Wayne got up and went into the crowd... so deep that Stewart couldn't see him anymore. Next thing he knew that flag came down real quick.

There's a documented account of Wayne getting angry and physical with some anti-war protesters, but the account I read says nothing about any flag (or Stewart, either). Your version is also curious because at least ostensibly, we were there on behalf of the Vietnamese people, so it was at least the official line that the U.S. supported the nation of Vietnam. 'NORTH Vietnam' is a different matter, of course. DRV did have a flag, and it goes without saying that it would be likely to engender hostilities on U.S. soil. But your account does clarify which flag it was, and they would mean very different things.

Regardless, the simpler Wayne story may give some self-styled 'patriots' a hard-on, but it actually depicts a man with an authoritarian attitude that our Constitution is specifically designed to protect us from. In effect, he tried to enforce his own views over the views of other citizens, his equals under the law, instead of respecting their right to have and express their own, as he presumed he was entitled to (which he was): he felt his own civil rights were superior to others' whom he disagreed with, which is anathema to the concept of civil equality in American society. American Democracy sometimes means having to see and hear expressed ideas that you personally reject or even despise, and putting up with it. That's an extremely important component of our shared civil liberties -- many of us even argue The Most Important One. If a citizen is not free in mind, then how can they be free otherwise? If you're not enough of a grown-up to accept that, then what kind of citizen are you? Wayne did not distinguish himself that day, and did not do this nation proud by losing his temper and attempting to shut down the free speech of other citizens just because he disagreed with it.

DjangoStonereaver: I would like that to be true

I'm sorry to hear that.

Mugato: And ironically he was in a movie where he played a guy with a paralyzing fear of heights and would get vertigo every time he was a couple feet off the ground. I believe that movie was called Rear Window.

I believe that movie was called Vertigo.

Mugato: And ironically he was in a movie where he played a guy with a paralyzing fear of heights and would get vertigo every time he was a couple feet off the ground. I believe that movie was called Rear Window.

No, that's Harvey. You're thinking of Mr. Smith Goes to Washington.

Stewart's role was accomplished and should be recognised, but there were others
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And that doesn't even mention Mr. Rodgers and Captain Kangaroo!

And there were those who didn't come home:

Glenn Miller.
Antoine, de Ste Exupery.

I would pay full boat retail for a week's worth of movie tickets to see Stewart's Air Force career documented on the big screen... I'd particularly like to see them cover the instance where he led his entire Bomb Group on a mission to Germany and back at the controls of an UNARMED B-24 Liberator. "Brave" doesn't even begin to cover it for Gen. Stewart.

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: I believe that movie was called Vertigo.

Wrong. It was called "That Is The Joke", staring everybody but you.