Why is it apple's working conditions? Apple doesn't own foxconn.

Foxxconn manufactures for dozens of companies. All of them should be boycotted if you want the protest to actually mean anything.

Dipshiats hate apple because they get special attention from the media, then turn around and do stuff like this. Maybe they realized that protesting apple, nintendo, panasonic, samsung, sharp, sony, nokia, asus, asrock, amazon.com, dell, cisco, intel, IBM, HP, EVGA, and levono would be too much work.

jonny_q: cman: Basically, this protest will be about as effective as OWS. Some news report and heated debates, but at the end of the day no one really gives a shiat.

Summary of "heated" OWS debates:

Bob: Charlie isn't really saying anything
Charlie: BANANAS PEANUTS MILK EGGS CELERY
Bob: You're just reading a shopping list. Loudly
Charlie: YOU'RE A 1%er
Bob: 1% of what?
Charlie: I'M OUT OF POT

Bob: Charlie's an idiot, therefore the system is working. No need to investigate further, citizen, just humiliate Charlie, eat, drink, fark, and go back to sleep. Psst: How much am I getting paid?

Vaneshi: change1211:
Apple - 13 Billion Q4 2011, assuming this continues then $52 Billion. This is why people have a problem with Apple producing all their products in China, they can easily afford to not but continue to do so.

And so can all the others. Or are you suggesting they're small fry or should be except because they aren't Apple? For their part Apple have been quite vocal about auditing (both announced and surprise it seems) the factories and keeping things to their liking. I've yet to see any of the other, major, customers say one iota about the working conditions in China either in general or specifically Foxconn.

When you say they (Company X) make a lot of stuff outside of China, you do realise that Foxconn are the second largest exporter in the Czech Republic (again according to Wikipedia) so... I'm gonna suggest it's STILL Foxconn pumping out shiat in a place with 'favorable' employment standards.

No, not Nvidia. EVGA. Vizio are, allegedly, Americas number 1 maker of HDTV's.. not a brand I'd recognise but I assume they make a fair amount of coin.

As I said, if these petitions were aimed at ALL the companies using those production lines I'd be more than happy to sign it; but it's not.

Vizio's total income in 2009 was 2.5 billion, that's nothing compared to Apple.

So how do you expect the companies that have lost a whole bunch of money to move their production to the first world and survive? Your argument seems full of crap when you compare the amount of money Apple has made compared to the other companies. Also, you've just provided a big list of companies, you haven't told us how much of their manufacturing is done by Foxconn. We know that pretty much all of Apple's work is done by them, how about the other companies?

Profits (All in USD):

Acer Inc. - $479 Million
Amazon.com - $1.2 Billion. However isn't almost all of this from them selling things that they haven't made? They lose money on their tablets and the big money from their e-readers come from book sales.
ASRock - $36 Million
Asus - $390 Million
Barnes & Noble - Loss of $73.9 Million
Cisco - Loss of $6.49 Billion
Dell - 2.63 Billion
EVGA Corporation - I think you mean Nvidia - Loss of $67 Million
Hewlett-Packard - Loss of 7 Billion
Intel - 12.9 Billion - However they do a good amount of production and assembly out of China
IBM - 15.8 Billion - Like Intel, they do a good amount of their production and assembly outside of China
Lenovo - $273 Million
Microsoft - Their Games Division had a profit of $1.32 Billion
MSI - I wasn't able to find their profit
Motorola - It looks like somewhere around $50 Million. I could be very wrong though
Netgear - $59 Million
Nintendo - Loss of $952 Million
Nokia - 2.3 Billion
Panasonic - $893 Million
Samsung - $21.2 Billion - Same situation as Intel, a lot of their production isn't located in China
Sharp - I think my calculation may be wrong but around $250,000?
Sony - Loss of 2.41 Billion
Sony Ericsson - This is Sony
Vizio - Couldn't find their profit

Apple - 13 Billion Q4 2011, assuming this continues then $52 Billion. This is why people have a problem with Apple producing all their products in China, they can easily afford to not but continue to do so.

I swore them off when they teamed up with News Corp on the iPad. Other than that, I can't really blame individual companies for playing by the rules they've been given -- the real problem is people refusing to 'boycott' Republicans and other neoliberal apologists that create these rules.

Majick Thise: I spent 2000 protest dollars yesterday on a new Mac Mini I7 and a Thunderbolt display

I feel your pain, bro. I'm gonna protest when the new MacBookPros come next month. That'll show 'em!

Masso: Wrong target. It should be Foxconn. And the way I see it, the only way this will stop is multiple governments pressuring Chinese government to force Foxconn into changing the way they do business.

But Foxconn aren't breaking any Chinese laws or labour practices. They're actually one of the top companies to work for over there and people are/were camped outside waiting for job openings,

It might suck balls compared a western factory but it's infinitely better than working in the rice paddies for 13 hours a day.

Wrong target. It should be Foxconn. And the way I see it, the only way this will stop is multiple governments pressuring Chinese government to force Foxconn into changing the way they do business.

Babwa Wawa: Right, subby. Boycotting is the only way to let a company know you disapprove of their practices.

/ANY electronics manufactured in the last few years has components from Foxconn
//or at least a company that uses the same labor practices.

i recently began installing extra connectors in service machines around here and laughed when i opened the attachment part and the connector cable it uses was wrapped in white plastic that said: "FOXCONN"

it's everywhere, man.