ultraholland: crap

Bite your tongue. Nudes. Nude women.

/some of them are also naked

Did Botticelli have a fixation on human bodily fluids, or what?

I never noticed before, but it looks as though waxing has been around for a long time.

Evenbiggerknickers: I never noticed before, but it looks as though waxing has been around for a long time.

The ancient Egyptians did it.

the originals look, and have always looked, do-able.

the photoshopped ones look nothing-to-be-ashamed-about extremely farkable.

and that is the difference.

And I have to say after actually looking at the article why would they do that?

Evil, woman-hating man here to report that I like the photoshopped ones more.
I plan to oppress some women before I go to bed tonight.

God-is-a-Taco: Evil, woman-hating man here to report that I like the photoshopped ones more.
I plan to oppress some women before I go to bed tonight.

Evil man-hating women here and I well actually did too ; )
I think it goes to cultural norms and in our day and age heavier is not healthier.
And I really need to be oppressed if you know what I mean, and I think you do
/By a women or man makes no mater ; )

DreamyAltarBoy: tinfoil-hat maggie: And I have to say after actually looking at the article why would they do that?

Maybe... blah blah blah... ...ever changing standards of beauty... blah blah blah ..modern media images... blah... ...unrealistic expectations... ...blah...

Maybe just for shiats and giggles

Oh for the same reason I made that post ; )

A modern Venus.
NSFW (new window)
What?

Meh.... I'd have photoshopped penises on them too.

Ghastly: Meh.... I'd have photoshopped penises on them too.

But you'd at least have the Venus being devoured or is that deflowered by a tentacle monster and you know it ; )

but..but...but women really DO look like that these days.... right there on the side panel:



Thanks to modern diet, technology, exercise and knowledge of the human body, we have been able to achieve ideal looks that the ancients could only dream about.

I mean, take a look at Glykon of Athens' famous sculpture of Hercules:



Hercules was the most powerful man who ever lived, with the most perfect, most sculpted muscular body. There was nobody alive in those days who had anything close to Hercules' physique, so Glykon had to make it up. He had no model to draw upon; he tried to imagine what the strongest man ever would look like. This is what he came up with. And even then, people thought Glykon had over-exaggerated and Hercules looked goofy with his bulbous muscles.

Now, here's Arnold:


Modern bodybuilders have not only exceeded Glylon's best imaginative attempts of what the perfect physique what look like, they exceeded it tenfold.

So I take issue with the idea that we have a mis-perception of what a normal body looks like. Artists and sculptors of the past were drawing upon their world for inspiration, and we are doing the same in ours.


/mods, don't ban me, I'm trying to make a point here
//this is for educational/artistic purposes

The boobs were not nearly big and round enough and the legs not skinny enough. If the artist really wanted to make a point, he would have hollowed out her cheeks and shown a rib or two.

LoneWolf343: I remember an anatomy tutorial that pointed out that there is the a difference between a body built for strength and a body built for looks. The Hercules statue is built for strength, and Arnold's for looks.

Hercules is supposed to be BOTH.

Ishkur: but..but...but women really DO look like that these days.... right there on the side panel:

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x785]

Thanks to modern diet, technology, exercise and knowledge of the human body, we have been able to achieve ideal looks that the ancients could only dream about.

I mean, take a look at Glykon of Athens' famous sculpture of Hercules:

[www.theoi.com image 348x632]

Hercules was the most powerful man who ever lived, with the most perfect, most sculpted muscular body. There was nobody alive in those days who had anything close to Hercules' physique, so Glykon had to make it up. He had no model to draw upon; he tried to imagine what the strongest man ever would look like. This is what he came up with. And even then, people thought Glykon had over-exaggerated and Hercules looked goofy with his bulbous muscles.

Now, here's Arnold:
[www.bodybuildingworkout.net image 472x642]

Modern bodybuilders have not only exceeded Glylon's best imaginative attempts of what the perfect physique what look like, they exceeded it tenfold.

So I take issue with the idea that we have a mis-perception of what a normal body looks like. Artists and sculptors of the past were drawing upon their world for inspiration, and we are doing the same in ours.


/mods, don't ban me, I'm trying to make a point here
//this is for educational/artistic purposes

And then some people actually make themselves into ridiculous caricatures of human beings in real life...

buckler: Ishkur: but..but...but women really DO look like that these days.... right there on the side panel:

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x785]

Thanks to modern diet, technology, exercise and knowledge of the human body, we have been able to achieve ideal looks that the ancients could only dream about.

I mean, take a look at Glykon of Athens' famous sculpture of Hercules:

[www.theoi.com image 348x632]

Hercules was the most powerful man who ever lived, with the most perfect, most sculpted muscular body. There was nobody alive in those days who had anything close to Hercules' physique, so Glykon had to make it up. He had no model to draw upon; he tried to imagine what the strongest man ever would look like. This is what he came up with. And even then, people thought Glykon had over-exaggerated and Hercules looked goofy with his bulbous muscles.

Now, here's Arnold:
[www.bodybuildingworkout.net image 472x642]

Modern bodybuilders have not only exceeded Glylon's best imaginative attempts of what the perfect physique what look like, they exceeded it tenfold.

So I take issue with the idea that we have a mis-perception of what a normal body looks like. Artists and sculptors of the past were drawing upon their world for inspiration, and we are doing the same in ours.


/mods, don't ban me, I'm trying to make a point here
//this is for educational/artistic purposes

And then some people actually make themselves into ridiculous caricatures of human beings in real life...

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Wow, just wow.

LoneWolf343: Ishkur: ...
Modern bodybuilders have not only exceeded Glylon's best imaginative attempts of what the perfect physique what look like, they exceeded it tenfold.

So I take issue with the idea that we have a mis-perception of what a normal body looks like. Artists and sculptors of the past were drawing upon their world for inspiration, and we are doing the same in ours.

I remember an anatomy tutorial that pointed out that there is the a difference between a body built for strength and a body built for looks. The Hercules statue is built for strength, and Arnold's for looks.

I think true strength is somewhere in between Arnold and Hercules.

Here is a fantastic site full of great info, and tons of pictures and stories of strongmen throughout history: Sandow and the Golden Age of Iron Men (new window), who have a wide range of body types.

People who do kettlebell workouts have more blocky bodies than Arnold, but are probably much stronger overall, with more functional strength, than bodybuilders: Art of Manliness: Kettlebells (new window) (Also, do a GIS for "pavel tsatsouline" for an example of Russian-style ideal strong body, which is reminiscent of Hercules).

When it comes down to it, for both men and women, individual phenotype matters a lot more than anything else, and there's a huge variety of functional bodytypes out there.