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The pilot of thoroughbred horse racing drama Luck on HBO was missing the traditional ASPCA "no animals were harmed during the filming of this program" blessing. PETA thought you ought to know there's a reason for that
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Apos
2012-02-08 08:14:12 PM
Is this show living up to its deafening hype?
ib_thinkin
2012-02-08 08:17:01 PM
Apos
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Is this show living up to its deafening hype?
I'd tell you if I had HBO. But it's good that I don't; after reading this article, I'd suffer from guilt.
cameroncrazy1984
2012-02-08 08:19:33 PM
I hadn't heard of this show before but if PETA hates it, I think I will check it out.
ib_thinkin
2012-02-08 08:24:48 PM
cameroncrazy1984
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I hadn't heard of this show before but if PETA hates it, I think I will check it out.
Dustin Hoffman in TV series about former Jewish aide to Italian mobsters.
Pocket Ninja
2012-02-08 09:06:00 PM
I'm typically a huge fan of the HBO dramas, and was really looking forward to this one. But I've given up. I find it ponderous, slow, impenetrable, and boring. I thought as much after the first episode, but gave the second one a shot. That was worse. The only other series I gave up on as quickly was that so-and-so from Cincinnati idiocy. Maybe I just don't care for horse racing.
Wayne 985
2012-02-08 09:17:35 PM
cameroncrazy1984
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I hadn't heard of this show before but if PETA hates it, I think I will check it out.
Broken clocks, etc.
I'm sure people at PETA refrain from eating cyanide too. Doesn't mean they're always wrong.
MFAWG
2012-02-08 09:22:15 PM
I just watched the silent version of Ben Hur, so I'm getting a kick
mr lawson
2012-02-08 09:28:49 PM
Yeah! Cheaper glue prices on the way, baby!
Diogenes Teufelsdrockh
2012-02-08 09:32:48 PM
Wayne 985
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I'm sure people at PETA refrain from eating cyanide too.
Unfortunately.
They're probably upset that most of the horses weren't euthanized.
/Hates animal cruelty. Hates hypocrisy nearly as much.
BalugaJoe
2012-02-08 09:34:34 PM
How many got killed in Game of Thrones? Thousands!!
9beers
2012-02-08 09:39:07 PM
I had one fear about watching a show about a horse track and they farking went there in the first episode. Seeing a horse break it's leg during a race is not my idea of must see TV.
scarmig
2012-02-08 09:39:34 PM
Lemme unnerstand.
Racing horses, potential death, for sport is OK.
Racing horses, potential death, for film, is BAD.
Am I right?
Doran
2012-02-08 09:44:06 PM
"Perhaps if producers had considered the proven safety protocols that we would have suggested, these horses would still be alive."
Yeah, right. And let me give you my cat while you're at it. I'm sure you'll "set it free" to live out a full life. Oh wait...
/f*ck PETA
Talondel
2012-02-08 09:46:55 PM
scarmig
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Lemme unnerstand.
Racing horses, potential death, for sport is OK.
Racing horses, potential death, for film, is BAD.
Am I right?
Um, this is PETA we're talking about. If you had to get a sick child to the hospital, and the only way to do it was to ride a horse, PETA would tell you that you're ethically obligated to let the child die before enslaving the horse and forcing it into manual labor.
So I'm pretty sure they don't think EITHER of those is ok.
beantowndog
2012-02-08 10:02:03 PM
Wouldn't PETA just kill all the horses?
Malcolm_Sex
2012-02-08 10:09:56 PM
Could it be that race horses die all the damn time? I would be interested to see how many, if there were any, were killed in other horse racing movies. I've gone to the track maybe 5 times in my life and have seen a horse die twice./csb
moothemagiccow
2012-02-08 10:20:13 PM
Hoffman's involvement assures I will fall asleep about twenty minutes in
FlashHarry
2012-02-08 10:25:26 PM
Pocket Ninja
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I'm typically a huge fan of the HBO dramas, and was really looking forward to this one. But I've given up. I find it ponderous, slow, impenetrable, and boring. I thought as much after the first episode, but gave the second one a shot. That was worse. The only other series I gave up on as quickly was that so-and-so from Cincinnati idiocy. Maybe I just don't care for horse racing.
god, THIS.
i tried - i really tried - to like it. i'm a sucker for HBO dramas. but if you don't know the ins and outs of horse racing, you'll be lost. plus, half the characters mumble their lines so that their dialog is totally indecipherable. sorry, HBO, i'm done.
KelvinTheClown
2012-02-08 10:34:37 PM
Painfully
Egregious
Thoroughbred
Accidents
zato_ichi
2012-02-08 10:39:47 PM
FlashHarry
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Pocket Ninja: I'm typically a huge fan of the HBO dramas, and was really looking forward to this one. But I've given up. I find it ponderous, slow, impenetrable, and boring. I thought as much after the first episode, but gave the second one a shot. That was worse. The only other series I gave up on as quickly was that so-and-so from Cincinnati idiocy. Maybe I just don't care for horse racing.
god, THIS.
i tried - i really tried - to like it. i'm a sucker for HBO dramas. but if you don't know the ins and outs of horse racing, you'll be lost. plus, half the characters mumble their lines so that their dialog is totally indecipherable. sorry, HBO, i'm done.
Yeah, it's not that great. I watched about half of the first episode before calling it quits.
I may catch some flak for this, but Dustin Hoffman in the past twenty years give or take has been pretty...uninspiring.
LowbrowDeluxe
2012-02-08 10:42:28 PM
I'm going to eat 3 horses for every one PETA complains about! HURRRHURRHURR AREN"T I EDGEY AND COOL
Khazar-Khum
2012-02-08 10:44:46 PM
Vets check horses all the time. And still, there are horses that break down.
Being checked & given the go-ahead doesn't prevent injury any more than going to the doctor does. Horses are 1000# standing on a single toe, moving at speeds of over 30 MPH. All it takes is a bad step, and the horse is hurt. Most injuries aren't serious. If the fracture is bad enough that they recommend euthanasia, then it's likely to be a bad break.
It isn't deliberate on the part of HBO, it isn't caused by someone's carelessness. It happens, just like that time you tripped going to get a cup of coffee.
I had a horse break a leg. It took 2 surgeries & months of rehab to get him better. He's fine now.
/csb
fatalvenom
2012-02-08 10:47:28 PM
ib_thinkin
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cameroncrazy1984: I hadn't heard of this show before but if PETA hates it, I think I will check it out.
Dustin Hoffman in TV series about former Jewish aide to Italian mobsters.
Lawyer or CPA?
Wasn't Looking at his Neck
2012-02-08 10:49:44 PM
"I don't know how this will affect our ratings, but it will definitely...
(shades on)
... suck for Luck."
YYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!
Satanic_Hamster
2012-02-08 10:58:24 PM
Wait till Peta finds out how many horses died in Ben Hur...
Knight of the Woeful Countenance
2012-02-08 10:59:55 PM
I enjoyed the first episode for what it was... I think this show might've been better as a miniseries rather than the second coming of Boardwalk Empire for HBO.
/the poker player in me was still screaming for a king to hit the river in the last episode... so there's always that for me I suppose.
GoldSpider
2012-02-08 11:03:01 PM
Satanic_Hamster
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Wait till Peta finds out how many horses died in Ben Hur...
Ben
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TyrantII
2012-02-08 11:04:38 PM
Apos:
Is this show living up to its deafening hype?
It's well made, but not my type of show. Good drama, but i just can't get into casino/track stuff so it ain't for me.
Sad about the horses, but it's not like they were having them jump off cliffs. Horses do run, don't they?
simplicimus
2012-02-08 11:09:08 PM
I don't know jack about horses, outside of them being large and stupid, but I assume that thoroughbreds are more fragile than quarter-horses and other types.
bhcompy
2012-02-08 11:09:46 PM
Didn't Milo and Otis suffer from similar problems?
just_intonation
2012-02-08 11:11:40 PM
beantowndog
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Wouldn't PETA just kill all the horses?
Just as ethically and humanely as possible, I'm sure.
/f*ck PETA
//worth saying again
mekkab
2012-02-08 11:15:30 PM
so wait, we're killing horses for entertainment, now?
[writes this down]
got it!
wildsnowllama
2012-02-08 11:20:19 PM
mekkab
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so wait, we're killing horses for entertainment, now?
[writes this down]
got it!
Well, we're certainly not allowed to kill them for their sweet, succulent meat.
Mmmmmmmm.
simplicimus
2012-02-08 11:20:51 PM
mekkab
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so wait, we're killing horses for entertainment, now?
[writes this down]
got it!
Well, we have to work up to killing people.
Seriously, how many horses get put down every year at racetracks? More than 2, I'd guess.
Ivo Shandor
2012-02-08 11:45:34 PM
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Dwight_Yeast
2012-02-09 12:12:57 AM
I'll be the lone voice in the wilderness on this one: Luck is amazing. It's the best thing on TV at the moment. You really have to watch every episode twice. They do explain everything, but not always in the order you'd want. Yes, the characters mumble their lines, but so do people in real life. You don't have to get every word to follow it.
I think it's worth watching to see Hoffman and Farina play together. They're both so good at what they do.
It's one of those shows that's only going to get better as it unfolds.
hulk hogan meat shoes
2012-02-09 12:29:54 AM
They cancel Bored to Death so that they can have Boardwalk Empire but with horses? Dick move.
farkingismybusiness
2012-02-09 12:37:22 AM
Nobody complained after
Game of Thrones
(new window)
/don't tell me that wasn't real
propasaurus
2012-02-09 12:39:13 AM
Khazar-Khum
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Vets check horses all the time. And still, there are horses that break down.
Being checked & given the go-ahead doesn't prevent injury any more than going to the doctor does. Horses are 1000# standing on a single toe, moving at speeds of over 30 MPH. All it takes is a bad step, and the horse is hurt. Most injuries aren't serious. If the fracture is bad enough that they recommend euthanasia, then it's likely to be a bad break.
It isn't deliberate on the part of HBO, it isn't caused by someone's carelessness. It happens, just like that time you tripped going to get a cup of coffee.
I had a horse break a leg. It took 2 surgeries & months of rehab to get him better. He's fine now.
/csb
Pretty much this.
I don't know firsthand about Luck. But it just so happens I am involved with another production that just shot out at Santa Anita. We had an AHA person on the set at all times. Nothing got done involving a horse that they werent right there watching. Scenes with a horse in a stall not doing anything while 2 guys stand outside talking, there was an AHA observer there. If a horse was hurt on Luck it was t because the track, the AHA or HBO didn't have proper protocols in place.
fark PETA. They're just doing what they always do, grandstanding.
9beers
2012-02-09 12:49:11 AM
farkingismybusiness
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don't tell me that wasn't real
What's worse, I heard it took 37 takes.
self_made_hell
2012-02-09 12:58:43 AM
I like the part where Dustin Hoffman mumbles some stuff I can't hear, then Nick Nolte mumbles some more stuff then the other guy mumbles and stutters into his phone while a guy with a thick spanish accent mumbles some stuff.
farkingismybusiness
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Nobody complained after Game of Thrones (new window)
/don't tell me that wasn't real
Looks like he cuts into a fake horse, then the horse falling down is actually film of it getting up played backwards.
farkingismybusiness
2012-02-09 01:05:37 AM
self_made_hell
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farkingismybusiness: Nobody complained after Game of Thrones (new window)
/don't tell me that wasn't real
Looks like he cuts into a fake horse, then the horse falling down is actually film of it getting up played backwards.
37 horses died for christ sake.
whither_apophis
2012-02-09 01:35:35 AM
propasaurus
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They're just doing what they always do, grandstanding.
Mr. Ed sees what you did there
She comes in colors everywhere
2012-02-09 02:06:03 AM
Talondel
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scarmig: Lemme unnerstand.
Racing horses, potential death, for sport is OK.
Racing horses, potential death, for film, is BAD.
Am I right?
Um, this is PETA we're talking about. If you had to get a sick child to the hospital, and the only way to do it was to ride a horse, PETA would tell you that you're ethically obligated to let the child die before enslaving the horse and forcing it into manual labor.
So I'm pretty sure they don't think EITHER of those is ok.
I'm pretty sure they won't rest until all quadrupeds have the vote.
MrEricSir
2012-02-09 02:10:45 AM
The whole "no animals were harmed" thing makes absolutely no sense. Do they mean nobody ate a burger during the whole shoot? Because if they did, then those words are incorrect.
Cagey B
2012-02-09 02:24:26 AM
Meh. Horses are delicate, ephemeral creatures. They seem to die if they step wrong, get frightened by something, are fed a cheeseburger or have their hair brushed the wrong way. I would say "stay gold Ponyboy" but that just made the people at the stable mad and caused them to dispute my unemployment claim.
davidphogan
2012-02-09 03:00:08 AM
scarmig
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Lemme unnerstand.
Racing horses, potential death, for sport is OK.
Racing horses, potential death, for film, is BAD.
Am I right?
What about pigs? What about ham? What about bacon?
Darth_Lukecash
2012-02-09 03:03:57 AM
MrEricSir
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The whole "no animals were harmed" thing makes absolutely no sense. Do they mean nobody ate a burger during the whole shoot? Because if they did, then those words are incorrect.
During the filming, fool, no one ate a burger during the filming. Unless it was a scene of Burger eating, then a stunt burger was used.
Sadly, the fact was in "Old" Hollywood, they would just kill animals for the sake of the film. Animals would be burned alive, sliced up or mutilated. This is cruelty by any substandard. What's worse is that they sometimes treat actors even worse...
FlyingJ
2012-02-09 03:06:29 AM
an ASPCA logo doesn't mean what you think it does, subby...
Pocket Ninja
only other series I gave up on as quickly was that so-and-so from Cincinnati idiocy.
Leave Kem Nunn alone you BASTARD!
whither_apophis
Mr. Ed sees what you did there
my mom was the eternal horseperson, couldn't figure out why Wilbur, a supposedly professional architect, wanted an office that always smelled like horseshiat
Huck And Molly Ziegler
2012-02-09 03:22:39 AM
I had to go through the horse-with-a-broken-leg ordeal in 1990.
She had been mine for 16 years.
My eternal blessings are upon the man who was able to quickly bring his backhoe to the pasture on a summer afternoon ...
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