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(NBC Bay Area) Spiffy You may get arrested if you tell the police your 6 lbs of marijuana has been stolen. Or, the cops may catch the burglars and allow you to sue for the value of the weed   (nbcbayarea.com) divider line 62
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2012-02-08 05:38:20 PM
No "spliffy" tag?
 
2012-02-08 05:38:57 PM
Good for him.
 
2012-02-08 05:39:09 PM
Wow.
 
2012-02-08 05:40:16 PM
I had this happen last year. The judge even ordered my ripper to hand write me an apology note. I carry it in my wallet where ever I go.

Little shiat tried to steal my crop on July 4th. 5 weeks prior to the flowering cycle starting. What a farking retard.
 
2012-02-08 05:40:39 PM
only in ca
 
2012-02-08 05:41:31 PM
I wish I had back pain and lived in CA
 
2012-02-08 05:42:37 PM
on the one hand, yeah it sucks getting beaten for your six pounds of pot.

on the other, if you're not plannign to sell it, there's no way six pounds of pot is worth anywhere near 18k. maybe several hundred dollars, for the electric bills.
 
2012-02-08 05:42:46 PM
Really wish "justice" wasn't a novel concept to so many people.
 
2012-02-08 05:44:33 PM
Or you could forgo the protections of the courts and police and go full gangster on the theifs increasing the crime rate. Plus points if inocents are harmed.
 
2012-02-08 05:44:52 PM
wow! that's an estimated 40,000 dollars worth of weed, according to the DEA.
 
2012-02-08 05:45:51 PM
proteus_b: on the one hand, yeah it sucks getting beaten for your six pounds of pot.

on the other, if you're not plannign to sell it, there's no way six pounds of pot is worth anywhere near 18k. maybe several hundred dollars, for the electric bills.


Where do you get your weed and can you sell me some?
 
2012-02-08 05:48:11 PM
He had 6 pounds for medical use ? I can only get my insurance to cover a month of prescriptions at one time. Last insurance company it was 90 days. If he had a years supply that is 6 ounces a month. How much does he smoke?
 
2012-02-08 05:50:35 PM
proteus_b: on the one hand, yeah it sucks getting beaten for your six pounds of pot.

on the other, if you're not plannign to sell it, there's no way six pounds of pot is worth anywhere near 18k. maybe several hundred dollars, for the electric bills.


$18k/6 lbs = $187.50/oz, which if anything is a low-end estimate for the replacement cost if he had to buy from a dispensary.
 
2012-02-08 05:51:54 PM
blametheman: proteus_b: on the one hand, yeah it sucks getting beaten for your six pounds of pot.

on the other, if you're not plannign to sell it, there's no way six pounds of pot is worth anywhere near 18k. maybe several hundred dollars, for the electric bills.

Where do you get your weed and can you sell me some?


dude...you may not want it if it's several hundred dollars for 6 lbs

prob looks like this at
esea.net
 
2012-02-08 05:56:21 PM
Only in Sonoma.

And yes, 18k is about right if sold like a a regular dealer. These are medicinal businesses. He'll only get like 12k, but no government official understands how these markets work or it would be legalized.
 
2012-02-08 05:57:01 PM
He needed 6lbs? Doesn't that stuff go stale and loose potency?
 
2012-02-08 05:58:10 PM
thesubliminalman: He had 6 pounds for medical use ? I can only get my insurance to cover a month of prescriptions at one time. Last insurance company it was 90 days. If he had a years supply that is 6 ounces a month. How much does he smoke?

Depends on how many patients he was growing for. Here in Oregon, I can have 1.5lbs per patient of which I have 4. You do the math.
 
2012-02-08 05:58:23 PM
That Comes out to $187.50 an Ounce.

The price is actually very reasonable given the quantity.

i don't know what prices are like in cali but where im from a Ounce is probably like 300 bucks, 400 if you get it by the 8th.

Even at 20 bucks a gram it would be less than $55,000.

which is probably what cop math is.
 
2012-02-08 06:00:14 PM
Alphakronik: thesubliminalman: He had 6 pounds for medical use ? I can only get my insurance to cover a month of prescriptions at one time. Last insurance company it was 90 days. If he had a years supply that is 6 ounces a month. How much does he smoke?

Depends on how many patients he was growing for. Here in Oregon, I can have 1.5lbs per patient of which I have 4. You do the math.


per month ?
 
2012-02-08 06:00:51 PM
We were both immediately arrested...and handcuffed. I said "Officer Obie, I can't sign for my weed with these handcuffs on."
 
2012-02-08 06:01:36 PM
thesubliminalman: He had 6 pounds for medical use ? I can only get my insurance to cover a month of prescriptions at one time. Last insurance company it was 90 days. If he had a years supply that is 6 ounces a month. How much does he smoke?

CA law allows for at least 3 pounds of processed medical marijuana in personal possession, with exemptions allowed if a doctor agrees that 3 pounds is not enough (the law explicitly states that such medical conditions exist). Individual counties can allow higher possession limits.

FWIW, the original enabling legislation was Senate Bill 420.
 
2012-02-08 06:02:23 PM
Alphakronik: Depends on how many patients he was growing for. Here in Oregon, I can have 1.5lbs per patient of which I have 4. You do the math.

i thought they did it by number of plants, and the weight was how much you could legally have on you outside your property.
 
2012-02-08 06:03:49 PM
i had just written out a really nice CSB but farked up on the preview.

the short, yeah, California is pretty lenient in regards to the pot.

actually may be better off you farkers not knowing that story.
 
2012-02-08 06:06:44 PM
cops may catch the burglars

No matter how many times I go back and read this part, it just doesn't make any sense.


He was beaten and robbed by four men dressed as police officers who beat him and bound him with a telephone cord before robbing him of six pounds in fall 2009.

This I understand.
Okay, so the cops beat him and stole his pot. But who did they arrest? If they caught the burglars, why doesn't the article mention illegal immigrants?
 
2012-02-08 06:10:29 PM
the DEA is gonna have a flipping fit over this.
 
2012-02-08 06:12:15 PM
common sense is an oxymoron: $18k/6 lbs = $187.50/oz, which if anything is a low-end estimate for the replacement cost if he had to buy from a dispensary.

if he was buying it from a dispensary, why was he buying it in $18,000 (or larger) blocks? seems clear the guy was growing his own. is that not permitted in california? seems to me that most of the cost of marijuana is the risk factor involved in selling it, as well as the plentiful middlemen that enter into every element of the supply chain. what supply chain? it's a plant that grows in the ground. i think you can make six pounds of it for 500$ worth of electricity and water. say 1000$. whatever, no wonder the thing is illegal, it's pure profit.
 
2012-02-08 06:13:38 PM
common sense is an oxymoron: (the law explicitly states that such medical conditions exist)

damn i don't even want to know what kind of conditions those are that three pounds of purple haze won't cure...
 
2012-02-08 06:14:01 PM
Isn't it time for a "Spliffy" tag for cannabis-related stories?

Just sayin'.
 
2012-02-08 06:16:09 PM
proteus_b: on the one hand, yeah it sucks getting beaten for your six pounds of pot.

on the other, if you're not plannign to sell it, there's no way six pounds of pot is worth anywhere near 18k. maybe several hundred dollars, for the electric bills.


by the pound, good indoor shiat runs anywhere from 3-4k per, so 18 is about right.
 
2012-02-08 06:18:27 PM
jackiepaper: by the pound, good indoor shiat runs anywhere from 3-4k per, so 18 is about right.

how much does it cost to buy, if it costs 3k to produce it? wow. i want to smoke that, but i should probably be sitting down first...
 
2012-02-08 06:20:48 PM
This same dang story pops up every week and y'all are to stoned to tell. To stoned to tell?
 
2012-02-08 06:24:25 PM
proteus_b: no wonder the thing is illegal, it's pure profit.

No wonder that thing is pure profit, it's illegal.
 
2012-02-08 06:30:18 PM
rmdpgh: Just sayin'.

Just sayin'.

Just sayin'.



www.thesportsbank.net
 
2012-02-08 06:30:26 PM
I thought that the civil courts wouldn't enforce an illegal contract or a gambling debt. It seems odd that they would enforce property rights to illegal property. Then again, some courts did enforce property rights to slaves without there being any moral or legal basis to slavery in the Constitution or elsewhere, so there you go.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugitive_Slave_Act_of_1850
 
2012-02-08 06:33:22 PM
proteus_b: jackiepaper: by the pound, good indoor shiat runs anywhere from 3-4k per, so 18 is about right.

how much does it cost to buy, if it costs 3k to produce it? wow. i want to smoke that, but i should probably be sitting down first...


that was purchase price. production price (aka COGS) varies a great deal.
 
2012-02-08 06:40:49 PM
brantgoose: I thought that the civil courts wouldn't enforce an illegal contract or a gambling debt. It seems odd that they would enforce property rights to illegal property. Then again, some courts did enforce property rights to slaves without there being any moral or legal basis to slavery in the Constitution or elsewhere, so there you go.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugitive_Slave_Act_of_1850


But it's not illegal property in California.
 
2012-02-08 06:40:59 PM
proteus_b: common sense is an oxymoron: $18k/6 lbs = $187.50/oz, which if anything is a low-end estimate for the replacement cost if he had to buy from a dispensary.

if he was buying it from a dispensary, why was he buying it in $18,000 (or larger) blocks? seems clear the guy was growing his own. is that not permitted in california? seems to me that most of the cost of marijuana is the risk factor involved in selling it, as well as the plentiful middlemen that enter into every element of the supply chain. what supply chain? it's a plant that grows in the ground. i think you can make six pounds of it for 500$ worth of electricity and water. say 1000$. whatever, no wonder the thing is illegal, it's pure profit.


His ready-to-consume medication was confiscated. Even if he had a crop in rotation, he would have been short of medication for weeks. The only legal alternative would be to buy from a dispensary--at their prices--hence the monetary claim.

What part of this don't you understand?
 
2012-02-08 06:44:11 PM
jackiepaper: that was purchase price. production price (aka COGS) varies a great deal.

i'm just implying that if the guy has six pounds, that it's probably because he grows his own. and if he's buying six pounds at a time, then his purposes probably extend beyond "back pain". he should be compensated for the cost of growing the weed. the criminals should be punished for the theft but mainly for the assault, irrespective of the cost of the marijuana. and if you're keeping six pounds of weed in your house, you might want to invest in a pistol and a safe. although i guess if four guys are beating you, a pistol and a safe might not serve their maximum utility.
 
2012-02-08 06:46:20 PM
LeroyBourne: He needed 6lbs? Doesn't that stuff go stale and loose potency?

No, if stored nicely (vacuum packed, then deep frozen) it will stay ~99% potent for a couple of years.

My brother still has about a hecto of blueberry in the back of his freezer, 5 years old and still as good as it ever was.
 
2012-02-08 06:48:19 PM
well, 4:20 has passed, but it's about that time for me. smokem if ya gottem.

//$200 oz. is Colorado price for top shelf.
 
2012-02-08 06:49:25 PM
common sense is an oxymoron: What part of this don't you understand?

the part where someone can smoke two pounds of weed in a week and not invite me.
 
2012-02-08 06:56:44 PM
LeroyBourne: He needed 6lbs? Doesn't that stuff go stale and loose potency?

something like 10% a year, if stored properly
 
2012-02-08 07:07:32 PM
proteus_b: jackiepaper: that was purchase price. production price (aka COGS) varies a great deal.

i'm just implying that if the guy has six pounds, that it's probably because he grows his own. and if he's buying six pounds at a time, then his purposes probably extend beyond "back pain". he should be compensated for the cost of growing the weed. the criminals should be punished for the theft but mainly for the assault, irrespective of the cost of the marijuana. and if you're keeping six pounds of weed in your house, you might want to invest in a pistol and a safe. although i guess if four guys are beating you, a pistol and a safe might not serve their maximum utility.


If four guys show up at your place in police uniforms, are you going to brandish your firearm?
 
2012-02-08 07:30:24 PM
Were they allowed to sue for the street value of 6 pounds of weed, or was it 6 pounds of weed using cop math? If it's the latter, will they be making a donation to lower the National Debt?
 
2012-02-08 07:31:25 PM
Medicinal marijuana isn't illegal subtard
 
2012-02-08 07:31:51 PM
Six pounds of weed?

How long would it take before that went bad? Would you even be able to smoke it in time?
 
2012-02-08 07:34:58 PM
Dr J Zoidberg: Medicinal marijuana isn't illegal subtard

CA doesn't enforce federal laws. Unless the feds are around, it's legal.
 
2012-02-08 07:49:41 PM
This is an important aspect in allowing government to retain a monopoly on violence.

If a theft happens, the police are obligated to help the person who has been wronged. If we make it legal to admit your contraband was stolen, then if said contraband is found in the possession of the thief it may be seized but the wronged person must be compensated in some form.

When you require the individual to protect and seek their own vengeance in case of theft you remove the monopoly on violence. This leads to an overall increase in violence in society.

/Angels of our better nature.
 
2012-02-08 08:08:58 PM
common sense is an oxymoron: thesubliminalman: He had 6 pounds for medical use ? I can only get my insurance to cover a month of prescriptions at one time. Last insurance company it was 90 days. If he had a years supply that is 6 ounces a month. How much does he smoke?

CA law allows for at least 3 pounds of processed medical marijuana in personal possession, with exemptions allowed if a doctor agrees that 3 pounds is not enough (the law explicitly states that such medical conditions exist). Individual counties can allow higher possession limits.

FWIW, the original enabling legislation was Senate Bill 420.


Nope...there are no arbitrary limits any more in Cali since our Supreme Court ruled two years ago that "any reasonable amount" is permitted. If you have an mmj recommendation you're good to go so long as you're not selling it on the street, but you can sell all you can grow to coops and dispensaries.

Weaver95: the DEA is gonna have a flipping fit over this.

Nah...they won't give a fark. They can't get out of bed for 6 pounds. Last July during their "big crackdown" they "busted" one coop with 99 plants growing outdoors. 99 plants properly grown can easily yield a pound and a half per plant of cured bud, mind you.

And by "busted" I mean they showed up, told the growers to sit down and shaddup while they cut down and hauled off the plants. No arrests. They just hauled off the plants. (Source)
 
2012-02-08 08:35:33 PM
macadamnut:
Okay, so the cops beat him and stole his pot. But who did they arrest? If they caught the burglars, why doesn't the article mention illegal immigrants?


Maybe they were just black guys?

/s
 
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