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2012-02-08 01:08:52 PM

snocone: PrinceofFark: discgolfguru: Judging by some of the videos I have seen recently, I am starting to think that the police officers are trained in the academy to yell "Stop resisting!" whenever they punch or kick a suspect, no matter what that suspect is doing. You know, just to be safe.

Oddly enough this is one of the more interesting thoughts in this thread, you aren't too off from reality. I have a friend who will remain anonymous, works in the state of Nevada as a LEO. We were down there partying it up in LV and he was off duty with us having a blast and really let loose. You get to see a completely different side of a cop when he is off duty and allowed to not have to worry about the dredges of society for a few hours.

Anyways, we saw an incident where two guys who clearly had been out in the sun and drinking too much were stumbling down LVB and being roudy, especially to women. A LEO approached the two men and my off duty cop friend chimed in: "These guys are pro's when it comes to these situations, and all you need to know is that in the event where you need to raise the intensity level on these pricks a few notches, you just always make sure you call out loudly so everyone can hear you "Sir, please stop resisting arrest". If you cover your ass there the DA will always back you up if push comes to shove".

"What if they aren't actually resisting arrest?"

"Aren't you listening? That's EXACTLY what i'm saying here. If you need to crack some skull then you protect yourself against these shiat stains legal game they like to play to make my job yet more difficult than it already is. Even if you are stomping a mud hole in someone just make sure you create the aura of a resisting suspect, it's the one silver bullet a guy like me has out there when i'm on my own"


We changed the subject quickly but that statement never left my mind. Every profession has it's in's and outs, and LEO's are no different. My gut feeling is if the legal system wasn't so willing to take the ...



You help out your fellow burger flipper or gas pumping attendant, so why is it so hard for you guys to grasp the concept of LEO's standing up to help each other against plain old citizens?

Also, while on topic some of you should be careful what you post. I see a lot of "those cops should be killed / hanged / burnt at the stake". That sounds a LOT like someone that is considering committing a violent and disgusting crime. Get this faux anger out of your system now, in a few years if you spout this off like you are someone to be taken seriously (you're not) you may just find yourself charged with Pre-Criminalization.

Just because you've been allowed to get away with it up until now doesn't make it right or legal. The 'wild west' of free speech and disrespecting your authority figures while hiding away in some internet thread is about to come to an end. You will now be accountable for every word you utter and every thought you conjure into existence. For many of you this is a pending death sentence given your intellectual short comings.

And before you start typing a shiat storm of a response, stop for a moment, look into what i've educated you on and realize that Yes, everything I have said is true, Pre Crime is here in America and blossoming, LEO's have a tough job and will always stick together, and finally, no, you won't do jack all anything about it, you don't have the balls and the only way you are going to feel good about yourself is if you can con some of your internet buddies into thinking that you'd actually stand up to one of them when your time comes.

/stop kidding yourselves and start to consider how you are going to integrate yourself into the 'new normal'
 
2012-02-08 01:08:59 PM

PrinceofFark: My friend is a good cop for the most part and I think his thoughts sum up the majority of the power holders in this country.


You really should wipe his jizz off of your chin before you post.
I had 3 cops in the family, 2 of them were incompetent and corrupt as could be. One of them routinely carried a throwdown in case he popped a cap in an innocent person, the other got busted by an undercover DEA agent when he was caught buying some blow.
 
2012-02-08 01:10:13 PM

9beers: The officers had no way of knowing that they were dealing with anything other than an unruly person. The only guy who acted inappropriately is the officer who kicked the guy in the head.


Yeah and not the guy who pointed out there is a camera and said "Don't worry about it they don't know you". Or the massive attempt at a coverup... that's all good. Face it, for the most part police are scumbags.

Honestly, I think it has to do with having to deal with the scum of our society day-in and day-out. And if this is the case maybe we should make police similar to the military where you do a tour of duty for maybe 3 or 4 years then you are no longer able to be a beat cop.
 
2012-02-08 01:10:23 PM

Zendo: - The cops should be disciplined for excessive use of force while executing the arrest, even if they thought we was drunk and non compliant; still, that's a relatively minor infraction;
- The cop who kicked the guy in the head and any other I may have missed that deliberately acted to harm the guy as opposed to subduing him should be prosecuted for assault (agravated because they are cops beating a helpless person);
- The other cops who failed to intervene and report the agression should be prossecuted and/or disciplined, according to the law of the land (of which I am ignorant);

I am still amazed that under Common Law public prosecutors can decide to do nothing about a crime, just because they don't feel like it.


Work at work? What fantasy land do you hail from?
 
2012-02-08 01:10:25 PM

PrinceofFark: shiat happens.

Everyone of you has implicitly agreed to the system we live in, which is you pay to be protected. Law Enforcement agents put their lives on the line daily to protect us from a laundry list of ailments, situations and other people with less than good intentions.

The odd time a LEO will exercise poor judgement and unfortunate situations like your story will take place. Tough. We do not live in a perfect society and you all clamoured for a decade about being in fear from terrorists and needing to be protected from every little threat. The Federal Government got the memo, don't worry. But the key is you don't get to pick and choose what a free society where you are protected by the Government looks like, they do.

Cops are above the average grunt salary earner, they won't tell you that because you have the emotional intelligence of a 5-yr so they simply joke about it amongst themselves ...


I bet you're a blast at parties, broseph.
 
2012-02-08 01:10:48 PM

9beers: The officers had no way of knowing that they were dealing with anything other than an unruly person. The only guy who acted inappropriately is the officer who kicked the guy in the head.


If you aren't a cop, you should join up immediately. You have the right mentality, farkwit.
 
2012-02-08 01:11:14 PM

snocone:
The Problem is not voting.

Quickie fix; no vote, no social services.
We are done.


Uh....are you saying that voting should be compulsory to receive cash or food aid? And what if they write-in Mickey farking Mouse or Zippy the Pinhead as a candidate? Nah, no chance of abuse in your cunning unenforceable plan there...

What IMHO could be done is tie in voting results with percentage of registered voters in any given precinct or issue on a ballot. If it's not clearly and unobjectionably over say.. 60% results are invalid. It's long been an issue when not only does someone with 43% of a popular vote win an open spot when only 30% of the voters even bother voting at all. By any method. That is NOT a majority. Nor should it be treated as such. 100% will never be achieved, even at the end of a gun, but we can simply invalidate results if the majority decides not to show up. That seems fair to me.
 
2012-02-08 01:11:49 PM
 
2012-02-08 01:12:43 PM
Never mind, I see by the continued megaderp that I've been Skookum'ed trolled.
 
2012-02-08 01:12:50 PM
There's that one bad apple again! I wonder how he keeps getting back on the police force...
 
2012-02-08 01:14:44 PM

Grables'Daughter: That video is very hard to watch.


Why, are you in diabetic shock?
 
2012-02-08 01:14:50 PM

BronyMedic: Anecdotally, the one cop I've blown was pretty large.

Wow. I can't believe I said that out loud. God, I am a whore.


Do you like soldiers? After all, we have bigger guns than the cops!
Also are you a chick? Because that is fairly important too.
 
2012-02-08 01:15:30 PM

PrinceofFark: LEO's have a tough job and will always stick together, and finally, no, you won't do jack all anything about it, you don't have the balls and the only way you are going to feel good about yourself is if you can con some of your internet buddies into thinking that you'd actually stand up to one of them when your time comes.


Timothy McVeigh may disagree . . .

911research.wtc7.net

Just saying . . .
 
2012-02-08 01:16:43 PM
RELIGION OF LANGERHANS
 
2012-02-08 01:16:48 PM

Bob16: They are only there to protect and serve.


Well, that guy got served alright.

You know, its the 90% of cops that give the other 10% a bad name.
 
2012-02-08 01:19:37 PM

MythDragon: brantgoose: Diabetics often sound and act like they are drunk when they go into insulin shock. It is important that the general public and public officials, including the police, be aware of this and other causes of misunderstanding and uninformed reactions.

This sort of thing happens all the time--people think a diabetic who is having an episode is drunk. It's understandable but preventable.

Let each of these odd stories be a teaching moment and Fark.com can make the world a better, safer, less funny place.

Maybe so, but you are missing the point. Was he driving under the influence? Yes he was. The influence of low blood sugar, but an influence all the same.
Yes, a person in diabetic shock may 'act drunk' but drunk drivers are highly dangerous. He could easily kill someone just as a drunk driver could, and should be treated no differently. You don't drink and get behind the wheel, and you don't not eat sugar and get behind the wheel. He knew he needed a cookie, yet he elected to drive anyway.

That why police should carry glucose monitors with breathalysers. Just as there is a maxium alcohol level allowed in your blood, there should be a minimum sugar level allowed. If a loved one was killed by an impared driver, I wouldn't care if he was drinking, or trippin off insulin. He had no right to be driving. Carry a pez dispenser with you, dammit.


It isn't clear whether he knew if he needed his blood glucose raised when he started driving, but I agree with your larger point that there should be some form of punishment for people who are driving impaired due to hypoglycemia. It shouldn't be as harsh as DUI punishment, but losing your license for 4 months sounds about right.
 
2012-02-08 01:21:27 PM

Kazrath:

Honestly, I think it has to do with having to deal with the scum of our society day-in and day-out. And if this is the case maybe we should make police similar to the military where you do a tour of duty for maybe 3 or 4 years then you are no longer able to be a beat cop.


That may be the most intelligent idea I've seen offered on Fark in the last 4 years.
 
2012-02-08 01:22:03 PM

Rubberband Girl: Hell, even if this driver WAS drunk, what the hell was the point in yanking him from the car and beating the snot out of him? Did they think that would that have sobered him up?


You aren't thinking. Do you think every cop has coffee in his cruiser? Sheesh.
 
2012-02-08 01:22:05 PM
ALL police are bad people and should not be trusted under any circumstances. Teach your children.
 
2012-02-08 01:23:02 PM

stonelotus: welp, that article answers my question of why there were always 4-5 Henderson police units at every traffic stop they made.

/lived in Green Valley


You noticed it too, huh?

I used to get gas at the Rebel station on Eastern/St. Rose and always remember seeing cars pulled over and always made a quick mental observation that there were always a lot of cop cars at EVERY stop.

Once when getting gas and there was already a car pulled over, and another time when a car was pulled over while I as getting gas, I wanted to confirm my suspicions and watched for about 25 minutes (yeah, I have no life).

The number of cop cars never dipped below ee and peaked at 5 for one and 6 for another. One time the driver was in the car the whole time; the other time they had the driver out of the car, not handcuffed, talked to him and then he re-entered the car. This tells me he was not dangerous in any real way and had committed nothing beyond some minor traffic offense, yet it took 20 minutes before he left. After the stop, the cops then stayed on the side of the road for about 15 minutes more just chatting-full flashing lights the whole time.

The Henderson police also have this weird distinction of having more lights on their vehicles then any other agency in the area.

The Tahoes lighting placement and style varies almost per car, but most will have lights on the front of the rear view mirrors, the vertical parts of the push bars, the rear side windows, and the roof
will be well lit with a visual cacophony of lights. The ones that don't have lights on the push bar have lights next to the push bar on the bumper running left to right. Combine this with the # of cars a stop and it means that even the most mundane, pedestrian, routine traffic stop by Henderson PD will have 2+ cars all running their own unique traveling light show.

Henderson also seems to love leaving ALL of their lights on the entire stop, so if you're one of those unfortunate saps that lives near a road and they've got someone pulled over, count on 20-30 minutes of intensive, high frequency red/blue strobing from 3-5 cars.

In the end, I view Henderson PD as a bunch of clowns who behave like a small town police force with too much money, too little controls, and too little brains. This would be funny if it wasn't the 2nd largest incorporated city in the state.
 
2012-02-08 01:26:35 PM

DoctorOfLove: At least they didn't execute him in a costco parking lot.... (new window)


When cops tell you to get on the farking ground, you don't reach for your weapon shouting that you're disarming.
 
2012-02-08 01:28:02 PM

PrinceofFark: I watched the video, the headline is sensationalist in nature.


The LV PD clearly could use a brush up on understand different types of conditions that the citizens could have, this was misdiagnosed as intoxication so you cannot be too vigilant in getting someone in a moving vehicle off the road, kudos for LEO's on that call.

The force used was somewhat heavy handed however, given the context I think things could have been a lot worse. Cops are going to back each other up just like you guys do for your fellow burger flipper and AOL call centre biatch, no need to pretend like your really upset about something you are guilty of too.


You are correct, sir. Why, just the other day, I, and 4 of my co-workers jumped over the counter at Mickey-D's, and proceeded to kick the ever-lovin' shiat out of an old man who was complaining about his fries being cold.

I'm sure all of us are guilty of using excessive violence in the workplace from time to time. If the rest of us are free to commit violent criminal acts while on the job, why should the police be held to a different standard.
 
2012-02-08 01:28:28 PM

nyseattitude: PrinceofFark:


My LEO friend from LV, his thoughts on pre-crime?:

"Were told we need to bring in more revenue which means more convictions, drug busts, arrest and civil violations (so tickets to us). The best way to drive revenue is to make the revenue stream flow easier, bottom line. If the City wants money it needs to create new ways of generation revenue. I can usually tell if a commoner is going to commit a crime just by looking at them, you get that six sense after dealing with them for a while. Precriminalization is being preached to the younger guys as the new era of Law Enforcement. To us older guys this seems a little bit hokey but whatever is going to pay our salaries, I want to retire in five years"

My friend is a good cop for the most part and I think his thoughts sum up the majority of the power holders in this country.

Reads;
I'll be gone in five years and replaced by brain washed recruits. As long as I get mine I'll look the other way.



Well you make it sound like he hasn't served his country valiantly for the last thirty plus years, however you pretty much summed it up, so I won't defend him against an accurate portrayal.

He says the Federal Government is actively working with strategic detachments (what makes one area more strategic to implement pre crime over another is beyond me) to implement early adopters of pre-criminalization enforcement. The chief is touting this as "the revolution law enforcement has been waiting so desperately for"

And you know what, my buddy makes a very valid point:

"Honestly, I probably stop / alter / interfere with a crime less than 5% of the time, the other 95% is chasing down the perp after the crime has been committed. Maybe we catch them, maybe we don't. usually we do not. We do not have the time or interest to go after every tom / dick and harry out there, that is the truth.

The way pre-crime is being sold to us is that it will actually make our jobs easier, because we can now spend our time profiling instead of doing the biatch work and tracking down facts after the job took place. As someone on the job for this long I think this is crazy, to be able to profile someone accurately for a violent crime. But, they are promising this is going to be a windfall of revenue AND i'll be allowed to do more work off the street and on cases that are actually solvable"

He went on to lament on the new recruits eating this up and pushing the limits of the current implementation. "In one of our orientations a new guy that you can tell is going to go into this head first was asking questions every five minutes about how far you can take pre crime right now. He basically admitted that he wanted the ability to charge someone based on his personal interpretation of the suspects mindset and not use the predefined markers for a pre crime"

"If I pull someone over for speeding and they are disrespectful, I have the feeling they could have drugs on them or they could be linked to drug related activity, what happens if I thought they would resist a search or refuse to conform with my requests, that is a pre crime in itself is it not"

"Well, yes and no, however the point is that we aren't looking for ways to find pre crimes, we are looking for ways to identify what could be a crime and stop it before it happens"

"Right, so if this guy isn't respecting my authority at the time and I think he would resist a search if I requested one, if I saw in the future he would refuse to comply to any of my wishes, technically he is committing a pre crime AND, if I then knew he could become physically aggressive in nature due to this, then that too is a pre crime and I would be within my rights to use required force on him as well"

"What you are proposing is a complex, hypothetical case"

"But isn't all pre crime hypothetical by it's very definition, and thus I am within my rights"

"Technically yes, however everyone here needs to understand that the legal system will be years behind pre crime, there is no current definition written into law so we need to be very careful how to craft enforcement right now"



Long story short the younger guys are going NUTS over this, as it's been sold as a "they can't prove they weren't going to do it so fark THEM hard with it". The older guys seem to be less pumped about this new revolution in crime prevention, more of the "get off my lawn, I could sense you were going to stand on it" approach.
 
2012-02-08 01:29:06 PM
Multiple officers assaulting a man who was going into diabetic shock?

Their names deserve to be part of the public record, badges and pensions sacrificed, and held up to every measure of public and professional scrutiny.
 
2012-02-08 01:31:07 PM

9beers: DoctorOfLove: At least they didn't execute him in a costco parking lot.... (new window)

When cops tell you to get on the farking ground, you don't reach for your weapon shouting that you're disarming.



From the link: (new window)

"Erik turned to find three officers facing him, guns drawn, and all three shouting different commands: "Get on the ground!" "Drop your weapon!" "Keep your hands up!" Erik held his hands up, spoke calmly, told them he DID have a concealed firearm and a legal CCW and was an ex-Army officer."


Good luck with that.
 
2012-02-08 01:31:07 PM

Maud Dib: PrinceofFark: My friend is a good cop for the most part and I think his thoughts sum up the majority of the power holders in this country.

You really should wipe his jizz off of your chin before you post.
I had 3 cops in the family, 2 of them were incompetent and corrupt as could be. One of them routinely carried a throwdown in case he popped a cap in an innocent person, the other got busted by an undercover DEA agent when he was caught buying some blow.


I have a cousin who was a NJ State trooper and regularly used the n word and often spoke about how you have to pull "them" over since you know they are doing something.
 
2012-02-08 01:31:13 PM
I have said it before and I will say it again.

fark NEVADA!!

Every little bit of it. From Reno to Carson City to Ely to Vegas....all of it is bullshiat. When you have someone like Harry Reid running congress and he is from some small (I mean really god damned small) town that you blink and miss when you drive through it - one has to wonder WTF!

Vegas area is full of killers and it is the cops. They run the joint like it is the old west. This is not surprising that this happened. It is time that it was filmed and put out for all to see.

I hope they all FRY including the jackasses that run the state.
 
2012-02-08 01:31:56 PM

RadicalArcher: So this happened in late October, 2010, and it's just being reported, by the Daily Fail, now?

That's some brilliant investigative journalism there, Lou.


Well since Las Vegas/Henderson isn't anywhere near London, good on them for reporting it at all. I wonder where the Las Vegas Review Journal was when this went down. Oh, wait! Kissing a copyright trolls ass!
 
2012-02-08 01:32:12 PM

ll001: My god, just imagine what would have happened if he were allowed to go about his business that day...


Well, he could have killed someone. Insulin shock is worse than being drunk. My best friend's dad was a diabetic and carpenter and generally never managed his disease well. He had lots of bad things happen due to insulin shock -- fell off roofs, cut off his thumb, etc.

So the stop was justified. Obviously the handling of the stop was outrageous, but he shouldn't have been on the road.
 
2012-02-08 01:34:32 PM

Daobaz: They just don't care about people as a whole anymore. The guy walking across the street in the wrong place is just as idiotic/dangerous as the man they busted up last week for selling crack.


You know the score, pal. You're not cop, you're little people!
bp1.blogger.com
 
2012-02-08 01:38:55 PM

jabelar: So the stop was justified. Obviously the handling of the stop was outrageous, but he shouldn't have been on the road.


He wasn't cited. So not only do they fail at being decent human beings, they failed at being cops.
 
2012-02-08 01:39:04 PM
I was arrested (the only time in my life) by Henderson police for protecting my 1 year old stepson from his abusive dangerous father, who THANKS TO THE POLICE misreading court orders for custody managed to kidnap him for two weeks right after that event. Luckily we found him, and the court gave my wife full custody ever since then (with the bastard getting supervised visits until last year when he lost all visitation all together), and the Henderson D.A. upon learning of how the police mishandled the incident, dropped all charges against me.

However, they didn't update the nationwide system, so it was a biatch and a half getting my work license to carry my firearm for Brinks in Missouri when we moved. But they sent a nice letter saying how no charges were ever filed against me, and that I was in the right.

But I should have sued the shiat out of them.
 
2012-02-08 01:39:15 PM
I live in Henderson. Worst police I've ever run into. They regularly harass kids walking home from school, hide out in my neighborhood (I've seen and reported one sleeping in his car on my cul de sac) and in general are terrible at doing their jobs. They are also big about busting possible illegals so they can get paid by ICE. I suspect that to get a job as a Henderson cop, you have to prove you were a bully throughout your schooling and fail some kind of IQ and ethics test. It's depressing.

//For the record, my father and uncle were both life-long police officers. Uncle died in the line of duty - there ARE good cops out there, but NOT in Henderson.
 
2012-02-08 01:39:44 PM

CheekyMonkey: PrinceofFark: I watched the video, the headline is sensationalist in nature.


The LV PD clearly could use a brush up on understand different types of conditions that the citizens could have, this was misdiagnosed as intoxication so you cannot be too vigilant in getting someone in a moving vehicle off the road, kudos for LEO's on that call.

The force used was somewhat heavy handed however, given the context I think things could have been a lot worse. Cops are going to back each other up just like you guys do for your fellow burger flipper and AOL call centre biatch, no need to pretend like your really upset about something you are guilty of too.

You are correct, sir. Why, just the other day, I, and 4 of my co-workers jumped over the counter at Mickey-D's, and proceeded to kick the ever-lovin' shiat out of an old man who was complaining about his fries being cold.

I'm sure all of us are guilty of using excessive violence in the workplace from time to time. If the rest of us are free to commit violent criminal acts while on the job, why should the police be held to a different standard.




You already know the answer. If all cops were held to the same standard, which they shouldn't and I'm very glad they are not, we wouldn't have any cops left out there. They would all be behind bars.

I don't if it's jealousy or just lack of understanding of politics and basic human behaviour, but some of you have a real issue dealing with the fact that cops are above the law and are legally viewed as 'better people' than you and I. We all know this is the case and it's rammed down your throats on a daily basis.

Just deal with it.
 
2012-02-08 01:40:34 PM

CheekyMonkey: Grables'Daughter: That video is very hard to watch.

Why, are you in diabetic shock?


Did it look like I was resisting?
 
2012-02-08 01:43:14 PM
Better article here (new window)
 
2012-02-08 01:46:42 PM
I'm sure every cop here has already said:
1) You're taking this out of context
2) You're anti-cop
3) That never happens in MY department
4) Everyone knows that department has special problems
5) We need more money for training
6) Do you want to ruin a good cop's career because he made one mistake
7) There are bad apples everywhere
8) You don't understand how dangerous our job is
9) Who are you going to call if someone breaks into your house? A hippie?
 
2012-02-08 01:48:03 PM

CheekyMonkey: There's that one bad apple again! I wonder how he keeps getting back on the police force...


You can't beat these government union gigs, man.


Plus I interview well
 
2012-02-08 01:48:32 PM

BronyMedic: There's no excuse to kick anyone in the head. Resisting or not.


I can't seem to post them (too big), but here:

Link (new window)

Link (new window)
 
2012-02-08 01:49:25 PM

PrinceofFark:
**Idiotic pre-crime nonsense deleted for humanity's sake** ...


Bwaaah-hah-hah-hah. That was rich. Most cops can't count their balls and get the same number twice, and now they are going to be able to determine intent by simply looking at someone. Riiiiiiiiiight.
 
2012-02-08 01:49:26 PM

Amos Quito: "Erik turned to find three officers facing him, guns drawn, and all three shouting different commands: "Get on the ground!" "Drop your weapon!" "Keep your hands up!" Erik held his hands up, spoke calmly, told them he DID have a concealed firearm and a legal CCW and was an ex-Army officer."


Good luck with that.


Even if true, were any of those commands "reach for your weapon". There are multiple, civilian witnesses saying that he did just that.
 
2012-02-08 01:49:37 PM

PrinceofFark: snocone: PrinceofFark: discgolfguru: Judging by some of the videos I have seen recently, I am starting to think that the police officers are trained in the academy to yell "Stop resisting!" whenever they punch or kick a suspect, no matter what that suspect is doing. You know, just to be safe.

Oddly enough this is one of the more interesting thoughts in this thread, you aren't too off from reality. I have a friend who will remain anonymous, works in the state of Nevada as a LEO. We were down there partying it up in LV and he was off duty with us having a blast and really let loose. You get to see a completely different side of a cop when he is off duty and allowed to not have to worry about the dredges of society for a few hours.

Anyways, we saw an incident where two guys who clearly had been out in the sun and drinking too much were stumbling down LVB and being roudy, especially to women. A LEO approached the two men and my off duty cop friend chimed in: "These guys are pro's when it comes to these situations, and all you need to know is that in the event where you need to raise the intensity level on these pricks a few notches, you just always make sure you call out loudly so everyone can hear you "Sir, please stop resisting arrest". If you cover your ass there the DA will always back you up if push comes to shove".

"What if they aren't actually resisting arrest?"

"Aren't you listening? That's EXACTLY what i'm saying here. If you need to crack some skull then you protect yourself against these shiat stains legal game they like to play to make my job yet more difficult than it already is. Even if you are stomping a mud hole in someone just make sure you create the aura of a resisting suspect, it's the one silver bullet a guy like me has out there when i'm on my own"


We changed the subject quickly but that statement never left my mind. Every profession has it's in's and outs, and LEO's are no different. My gut feeling is if the legal system wasn't so willing to ...



0/10. you try too hard
 
2012-02-08 01:50:58 PM

Inquisitive Inquisitor: What a bunch of retards.

Years ago I saw a traffic stop turn into a fracas when a man went into a seizure and started flailing around. The officer interpreted it as resisting arrest and did the bare minimum to subdue him. After EMS arrived and his condition was noted by the paramedics the officer immediately contacted his supervisor, removed himself from the scene and turned himself in for discipline. He even went to the hospital and apologized for what happened. There was no cover up and no one lied to save face.

That's how you own up to a mistake as a law enforcement officer.


As if anyone will believe this story.
 
2012-02-08 01:52:13 PM

Amos Quito: $158,000?

Pity he's not black.

He'd have gotten ten times that much.


I know, right? Lucky black guys ... Cops kick their ass and THEN pay em! Every. Single. Time.
 
2012-02-08 01:53:23 PM

pedrop357: stonelotus: welp, that article answers my question of why there were always 4-5 Henderson police units at every traffic stop they made.

/lived in Green Valley

You noticed it too, huh?

I used to get gas at the Rebel station on Eastern/St. Rose and always remember seeing cars pulled over and always made a quick mental observation that there were always a lot of cop cars at EVERY stop.

Once when getting gas and there was already a car pulled over, and another time when a car was pulled over while I as getting gas, I wanted to confirm my suspicions and watched for about 25 minutes (yeah, I have no life).

The number of cop cars never dipped below ee and peaked at 5 for one and 6 for another. One time the driver was in the car the whole time; the other time they had the driver out of the car, not handcuffed, talked to him and then he re-entered the car. This tells me he was not dangerous in any real way and had committed nothing beyond some minor traffic offense, yet it took 20 minutes before he left. After the stop, the cops then stayed on the side of the road for about 15 minutes more just chatting-full flashing lights the whole time.

The Henderson police also have this weird distinction of having more lights on their vehicles then any other agency in the area.

The Tahoes lighting placement and style varies almost per car, but most will have lights on the front of the rear view mirrors, the vertical parts of the push bars, the rear side windows, and the roof
will be well lit with a visual cacophony of lights. The ones that don't have lights on the push bar have lights next to the push bar on the bumper running left to right. Combine this with the # of cars a stop and it means that even the most mundane, pedestrian, routine traffic stop by Henderson PD will have 2+ cars all running their own unique traveling light show.

Henderson also seems to love leaving ALL of their lights on the entire stop, so if you're one of those unfortunate saps that lives near a ...


Ah... I got pulled over on St. Rose by a motorcycle officer. I saw him behind me, but heard no siren and saw no lights, so I didn't pull over. When he turned on his siren, I immediately pulled over (I was doing about 10 over when he got behind me). He came to my window with gun drawn, demanding that I place my hands on the steering wheel, screaming at me etc. He yelled at me about not pulling over immediately, and I said I pulled over as soon as I saw the siren - his response? "What, the lights weren't enough for you?" When I told him he never turned his lights on, he stuck his head through my window and looked out my back window, yelling that he'd have to ticket me for having windows that were too dark if I couldn't see the lights. Except that when he looked through the back window, he saw that his lights weren't on. He shut up pretty quickly when he realized he didn't have his lights on. Then he proceeded to leave me sitting on the side of the road for over a half hour. Four other officers showed up and left during the time I was on the side of the road. When he walked up to my car to return my license and registration, he saw the badge on my side window that commemorated my uncle who had been killed in the line of duty. He suddenly changed his tune -asked me about the badge, what happened, etc. Then tore up the ticket and returned my license and reg. I couldn't believe it.(I never mention that my father or uncle are officers because they serve in another state.) I'll never understand how some of their minds work.

From beginning to end the guy was pure a**hole.
 
2012-02-08 01:54:03 PM

BronyMedic: Amos Quito: brantgoose: Diabetics often sound and act like they are drunk when they go into insulin shock. It is important that the general public and public officials, including the police, be aware of this and other causes of misunderstanding and uninformed reactions.

This sort of thing happens all the time--people think a diabetic who is having an episode is drunk. It's understandable but preventable.

There's also a tragic amount of ignorance an misinformation about mental illness, epilepsy, autism, disabilities, etc.

Educate yourself on the symptoms and treatment of common afflictions such as stroke, diabetes, epilepsy, shock, etc. It may save a life or a misunderstanding.

Let each of these odd stories be a teaching moment and Fark.com can make the world a better, safer, less funny place.


Sounds like the COPS are the ones are in most urgent need of "education".

Maybe we should start a campaign, get a Federal Grant, educate the SWINE and pocket millions in the process?


DRUNK OR DIABETIC, THERE IS NO EXCUSE TO KICK A NON-RESISTING MAN IN THE HEAD.

There's no excuse to kick anyone in the head. Resisting or not.

There was a push a few years back to make every law enforcement officer in the United States a certified First Responder. Although it was because of the AED and CPR, not because of the diabetic issue.

As I recall, it never gained steam because the LEO community was worried about the legal implications of assuming care of a patient.

/Oh, crap. I'm agreeing with Amos Quito. Hell has frozen over.


Better than them being in the way like they usually are...
 
2012-02-08 01:54:48 PM

9beers: Amos Quito: "Erik turned to find three officers facing him, guns drawn, and all three shouting different commands: "Get on the ground!" "Drop your weapon!" "Keep your hands up!" Erik held his hands up, spoke calmly, told them he DID have a concealed firearm and a legal CCW and was an ex-Army officer."


Good luck with that.

Even if true, were any of those commands "reach for your weapon". There are multiple, civilian witnesses saying that he did just that.


Um, in order to "drop" his weapon, he needs to "reach" for it first (assuming it's not in his hands already).
 
2012-02-08 01:55:27 PM

Grables'Daughter: CheekyMonkey: Grables'Daughter: That video is very hard to watch.

Why, are you in diabetic shock?

Did it look like I was resisting?


One Bad Apple: CheekyMonkey: There's that one bad apple again! I wonder how he keeps getting back on the police force...

You can't beat these government union gigs, man.

Plus I interview well


God I love you guys some days. The wit can't be beat. :)

On topic: This was retarded and shocking and BAD. I should also, however, point out that with our obesity issues and our aging issues, that we as a society are going to see this more and more often. People need to farkin' know how to manage their diabetes or they need to give up the goddamn car.

I'm not saying it's only old folks that are going to end up like this, but I remember listening to a friend talk about her parents and it was *precisely* this issue. Even though they *knew* they were a danger on the road, they refused to do anything to mitigate their danger, because fark you it's their car and you can't take that away from them. :\

Police need to know about diabetics (and, you know, HUMANS ferchrissakes), but people also need to know how to manage their own damn diseases, no matter how mortal and icky it makes them feel!
 
2012-02-08 01:56:38 PM
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2012-02-08 01:57:28 PM

bonediddly123: PrinceofFark: snocone: PrinceofFark: discgolfguru: Judging by some of the videos I have seen recently, I am starting to think that the police officers are trained in the academy to yell "Stop resisting!" whenever they punch or kick a suspect, no matter what that suspect is doing. You know, just to be safe.

Oddly enough this is one of the more interesting thoughts in this thread, you aren't too off from reality. I have a friend who will remain anonymous, works in the state of Nevada as a LEO. We were down there partying it up in LV and he was off duty with us having a blast and really let loose. You get to see a completely different side of a cop when he is off duty and allowed to not have to worry about the dredges of society for a few hours.

Anyways, we saw an incident where two guys who clearly had been out in the sun and drinking too much were stumbling down LVB and being roudy, especially to women. A LEO approached the two men and my off duty cop friend chimed in: "These guys are pro's when it comes to these situations, and all you need to know is that in the event where you need to raise the intensity level on these pricks a few notches, you just always make sure you call out loudly so everyone can hear you "Sir, please stop resisting arrest". If you cover your ass there the DA will always back you up if push comes to shove".

"What if they aren't actually resisting arrest?"

"Aren't you listening? That's EXACTLY what i'm saying here. If you need to crack some skull then you protect yourself against these shiat stains legal game they like to play to make my job yet more difficult than it already is. Even if you are stomping a mud hole in someone just make sure you create the aura of a resisting suspect, it's the one silver bullet a guy like me has out there when i'm on my own"


We changed the subject quickly but that statement never left my mind. Every profession has it's in's and outs, and LEO's are no different. My gut feeling is if the legal system wasn't ...


Conversation happened: Check

Pre Crime implemented into our country: Check

http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20117058-281/homeland-security-move s -forward-with-pre-crime-detection/

http://intellectualodditiesnetwork.com/showthread.php?tid=4109


Looks and sounds like you'll be the one accused of trying too hard in the near future if you don't clean that filthy little mind of yours. The amount of idiots in this country is staggering so I say, bring on Pre Crime. The more of you that have your ability to communicate to others removed and stop the spread your stupidity, the better.
 
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