I have nothing insightful to offer about this story, so I am off to listen to some tunes...

PrinceofFark: Tough. We do not live in a perfect society and you all clamoured for a decade about being in fear from terrorists and needing to be protected from every little threat. The Federal Government got the memo, don't worry. But the key is you don't get to pick and choose what a free society where you are protected by the Government looks like, they do.

Holy shiat. THIS. This right here.

You voters gave these people the power they have today, over the last 30 years of civil rights erosions and moral panics. You're reaping what you sowed.

PrinceofFark: Cops are above the average grunt salary earner, they won't tell you that because you have the emotional intelligence of a 5-yr so they simply joke about it amongst themselves but look no farther than this incident itself where the DA is protecting the cops by hiding their names from the public.

It depends on where that cop works. I made more as a private, entry level EMT in Memphis than I would have had I had the desire to try out for my hometown's Sherriff Department. They make about 9 an hour. The only difference is the benefits they get.

Oh_Enough_Already: There is an occupying army in this country right now, and it is your local police department.

Their continued and growing use of military tactics and weapons is only ratcheting up the stakes, how long until the citizenry responds in kind?

No one will be rooting for the cops if and when this happens.

You...you really have no idea of the horrors of an armed civil war, do you?

Every one of those cops should be publicly hanged, along with their training officers for a start.

Don't worry everyone. None of the cops lost any pay and the town will no doubt win their money back and more in the countersuit against this notorious & evil perp who no doubt did tons of damage to these poor victimized cops' boots, medical bills incurred for attacking their fists with his face, etc.

discgolfguru: Judging by some of the videos I have seen recently, I am starting to think that the police officers are trained in the academy to yell "Stop resisting!" whenever they punch or kick a suspect, no matter what that suspect is doing. You know, just to be safe.

Oddly enough this is one of the more interesting thoughts in this thread, you aren't too off from reality. I have a friend who will remain anonymous, works in the state of Nevada as a LEO. We were down there partying it up in LV and he was off duty with us having a blast and really let loose. You get to see a completely different side of a cop when he is off duty and allowed to not have to worry about the dredges of society for a few hours.

Anyways, we saw an incident where two guys who clearly had been out in the sun and drinking too much were stumbling down LVB and being roudy, especially to women. A LEO approached the two men and my off duty cop friend chimed in: "These guys are pro's when it comes to these situations, and all you need to know is that in the event where you need to raise the intensity level on these pricks a few notches, you just always make sure you call out loudly so everyone can hear you "Sir, please stop resisting arrest". If you cover your ass there the DA will always back you up if push comes to shove".

"What if they aren't actually resisting arrest?"

"Aren't you listening? That's EXACTLY what i'm saying here. If you need to crack some skull then you protect yourself against these shiat stains legal game they like to play to make my job yet more difficult than it already is. Even if you are stomping a mud hole in someone just make sure you create the aura of a resisting suspect, it's the one silver bullet a guy like me has out there when i'm on my own"


We changed the subject quickly but that statement never left my mind. Every profession has it's in's and outs, and LEO's are no different. My gut feeling is if the legal system wasn't so willing to take the side of the accused over the LEO's they wouldn't need to look for loopholes like this in the first place.

GORDON: Except for when the first thing the guy said was "I am going into insulin shock."

No he farking didn't. The comment about going into insulin shock was clearly made during an interview with the media, not when he was pulled over.

2wolves: You and your filthy Liberal facts.

Holy shiat, I'm surrounded by retards. It's cool, I'll write it off as being blinded by your hatred of the police.

BronyMedic:

Insulin Shock = Hypoglycemia, or low blood sugar.
Diabetic Coma = DKA or HHNK, Hyperglycemia

For the later, you really don't want to give them insulin. Although it's hard as hell to kill someone with insulin.

Care to revise?

PrinceofFark: tedthebellhopp: csb...

Something similar to this happened local to me last year. The man (black) was in diabetic shock in his condo and and a next door neighbors cleaning lady heard loud noises and caught a glimpse of him thought the window. She then called the police because she thought he was robbing the place, the police found him naked sitting on his upstairs toilet and thought it would be good to beat him with a night sick and pepper spray him for a bit when he was un-compliment. once they got him outside onlookers said he lived there so the police threatened to arrest them for obstruction of justice. not until the ambulance arrived and the EMT who knew the man verified his identity from previous diabetic shock incidents, did they let him go.

All records have been sealed on the case, and the Hartford, VT police and VT state police stand behind that decision. Since he was not actually arrested so they don't need to release the records. in accordance with Vermont laws.

/end csb
// could the fact that he was black and this was VT have anything to do with it? mayybe


shiat happens.

Everyone of you has implicitly agreed to the system we live in, which is you pay to be protected. Law Enforcement agents put their lives on the line daily to protect us from a laundry list of ailments, situations and other people with less than good intentions.

The odd time a LEO will exercise poor judgement and unfortunate situations like your story will take place. Tough. We do not live in a perfect society and you all clamoured for a decade about being in fear from terrorists and needing to be protected from every little threat. The Federal Government got the memo, don't worry. But the key is you don't get to pick and choose what a free society where you are protected by the Government looks like, they do.

Cops are above the average grunt salary earner, they won't tell you that because you have the emotional intelligence of a 5-yr so they simply joke about it amongst themselves ...

garandman1a: Don't worry everyone. None of the cops lost any pay and the town will no doubt win their money back and more in the countersuit against this notorious & evil perp who no doubt did tons of damage to these poor victimized cops' boots, medical bills incurred for attacking their fists with his face, etc.

Amos Quito: $158,000?

Pity he's not black.

He'd have gotten ten times that much.
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Crap, where's the "stupid" button?

Amos Quito: DRUNK OR DIABETIC, THERE IS NO EXCUSE TO KICK A NON-RESISTING MAN IN THE HEAD.

let's not be hasty. he might be a jew, or a jew-lover.

thelordofcheese:
And this is why I keep telling you guys to kill cops. Seriously. go to their houses and burn them down. Do it.

/lol, slept with a cop's daughter AGAIN last night

So you stabbed the cop's daughter instead I see....

BronyMedic: You voters gave these people the power they have today, over the last 30 years of civil rights erosions and moral panics. You're reaping what you sowed.

Computer, zoom in.

You voters.

Zoom in again.

You Boomers.

I think I've found the problem. :)

The insulin made him insolent!

welp, that article answers my question of why there were always 4-5 Henderson police units at every traffic stop they made.

/lived in Green Valley

kobrakai: Burning these cops to death would be letting them off easy.

What if we skin them alive and soak them in kerosene first?

9beers: Mr. Cat Poop: I'm surprised the dash cam footage still exists. I ordered my own dash cam the other day, mostly in case I can catch some good youtube footage, but also just in case a situation like this arises and the cops "lose" the video that would save my ass in court.
So you bought a dash cam and plan on mounting it facing to the rear of your vehicle in case you get pulled over? Paranoid much?

But if he mentioned that he carried a concealed weapon everywhere, lots of people would give him a high five.

Wow, 107 comments and I'm still in before CruiserTwelve.

BronyMedic: PrinceofFark: Tough. We do not live in a perfect society and you all clamoured for a decade about being in fear from terrorists and needing to be protected from every little threat. The Federal Government got the memo, don't worry. But the key is you don't get to pick and choose what a free society where you are protected by the Government looks like, they do.

Holy shiat. THIS. This right here.

You voters gave these people the power they have today, over the last 30 years of civil rights erosions and moral panics. You're reaping what you sowed.

PrinceofFark: Cops are above the average grunt salary earner, they won't tell you that because you have the emotional intelligence of a 5-yr so they simply joke about it amongst themselves but look no farther than this incident itself where the DA is protecting the cops by hiding their names from the public.

It depends on where that cop works. I made more as a private, entry level EMT in Memphis than I would have had I had the desire to try out for my hometown's Sherriff Department. They make about 9 an hour. The only difference is the benefits they get.

Oh_Enough_Already: There is an occupying army in this country right now, and it is your local police department.

Their continued and growing use of military tactics and weapons is only ratcheting up the stakes, how long until the citizenry responds in kind?

No one will be rooting for the cops if and when this happens.

You...you really have no idea of the horrors of an armed civil war, do you?


Scary stuff, if you extrapolate out another few years if this just continues to get worse. Pre-Crime will be big business in this country, and New Jersey is currently test driving out some very early adoptions of Pre-Crime prevention technology on its citizens.

The beauty? Ten years ago if I strolled into a cop bashing thread on Fark.com and tried to warn the IQ starved populace of the Federal Government's police state wet dream I would have been laughed right out of my IP range. Flash forward to 2012, and American citizens can now officially add "pre crime" to their list of concerns. You can pretend it's not a concern, but you'll need to defend yourself in a court of law now as to why you were "going to" physically assault your GF in a domestic dispute you were about to have, or that liquor store we all know you were plotting to knock off later tonight.

My LEO friend from LV, his thoughts on pre-crime?:

"Were told we need to bring in more revenue which means more convictions, drug busts, arrest and civil violations (so tickets to us). The best way to drive revenue is to make the revenue stream flow easier, bottom line. If the City wants money it needs to create new ways of generation revenue. I can usually tell if a commoner is going to commit a crime just by looking at them, you get that six sense after dealing with them for a while. Precriminalization is being preached to the younger guys as the new era of Law Enforcement. To us older guys this seems a little bit hokey but whatever is going to pay our salaries, I want to retire in five years"

My friend is a good cop for the most part and I think his thoughts sum up the majority of the power holders in this country.

PrinceofFark: I watched the video, the headline is sensationalist in nature.


The LV PD clearly could use a brush up on understand different types of conditions that the citizens could have, this was misdiagnosed as intoxication so you cannot be too vigilant in getting someone in a moving vehicle off the road, kudos for LEO's on that call.

The force used was somewhat heavy handed however, given the context I think things could have been a lot worse. Cops are going to back each other up just like you guys do for your fellow burger flipper and AOL call centre biatch, no need to pretend like your really upset about something you are guilty of too.

Pretty sure I'm not guilty of assaulting my fellow man simply because I am functionally retarded.

loaba: Amos Quito: $158,000?

Pity he's not black.

He'd have gotten ten times that much.
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Crap, where's the "stupid" button?



Right here. (new window)

It was a riot.

I'm confused from the outset.

So, in America, someone weaving in traffic immediately justifies the response of aiming your gun at the perp before you've even gotten a look at them or - heaven forfend - spoken to them? What ever happened to moseying up to the window for a chat to determine if they're dangerous first? Are (even) your cops complete and utter cowards?

/Firefox knows 'moseying' but not 'perp'. Huh.

You are all woefully misinformed. The fact is that repeated kicks in the head are excellent first line treatment for insulin shock. The officers were just trying to help!

snocone: The Problem is not voting.

Quickie fix; no vote, no social services.
We are done.

True that. Having sane people actually voting would (hopefully) drown out the cowards and idiots.

Aww, c'mon. Occasionally getting beaten by law enforcement is just one of the small prices one must pay to live in the 'land of the free'. I mean, look at the alternative. If it weren't for police, a violent gang of criminals could drag you from your car, kick you repeatedly in the head, and basically get away with it. Fortunately, we have a vigilant police force to protect us and deliver the beatings themselves. USA! USA! USA!

proteus_b: Amos Quito: DRUNK OR DIABETIC, THERE IS NO EXCUSE TO KICK A NON-RESISTING MAN IN THE HEAD.

let's not be hasty. he might be a jew, or a jew-lover.

At least they didn't execute him in a costco parking lot.... (new window)

Let's see...

This whole thing is bullshiat. This article is nothing but cop-hating trash, taking a one-sided approach to a complicated situation.

From the cops' perspective, this man is driving dangerously - putting the lives of everyone around him at risk. They pull him over, and the first thing he does is make an excuse for erratic behavior. This is a common tactic to get police to lower their guards, so of course they're suspicious.

They move to arrest him, and he resists. Should they just say "Sorry, we didn't realize you didn't want to be arrested. Continue driving like a maniac."?

As far as the exchange, it's not entirely clear at this point what exactly they're referring to. Until more evidence comes up, we honestly can't know what the officers are talking about in this case. But does it really seem likely that they would have such an incriminating exchange AFTER noticing the dash cam?

No. That's ridiculous, but this article and cop-hating Farkers will latch onto what is most likely a radical misinterpretation of what was said. Just keep hating, but don't call 9-1-1 when someone weaves down the streets of your neighborhood, putting the lives of you and your children at risk.

/how was that?

PrinceofFark:


My LEO friend from LV, his thoughts on pre-crime?:

"Were told we need to bring in more revenue which means more convictions, drug busts, arrest and civil violations (so tickets to us). The best way to drive revenue is to make the revenue stream flow easier, bottom line. If the City wants money it needs to create new ways of generation revenue. I can usually tell if a commoner is going to commit a crime just by looking at them, you get that six sense after dealing with them for a while. Precriminalization is being preached to the younger guys as the new era of Law Enforcement. To us older guys this seems a little bit hokey but whatever is going to pay our salaries, I want to retire in five years"

My friend is a good cop for the most part and I think his thoughts sum up the majority of the power holders in this country.

Reads;
I'll be gone in five years and replaced by brain washed recruits. As long as I get mine I'll look the other way.

Because People in power are Stupid: Nazi's thought that people with diabetes should be racially "cleansed".

I'm not saying cops are Nazi's, just that they have similar tactics.

Well who doesn't want to invade France?

The only, and I mean ONLY way to ever put an end to this will be mandating that all LEO's are bonded and insured (like plumbers, lawyers, doctors, etc) so that judgement like this come out of their pockets, dismantling the police unions which exist exclusively to protect the 99% of "bad apples," and require all cops to wear cameras at all times.

If not, it's "frogs in a pot," except there are more of us frogs (and we're much better armed) than their are cops.

Bag of Hammers: *lives in Vegas*

Yup, although this particular case took place in Henderson (not really Vegas) this is pretty much par for the course for LVMPD, he's lucky he didn't get shot. The cops here have about a dozen pending wrongful death suits (they shot and killed a guy on the toilet, they shot and killed an unarmed guy during a traffic stop) they last one that got settled was for 1.7 million. (Leading to speculation that if this keeps up the LVMPD and Clark County will go broke paying off these suits). The Sheriff here is real piece of work too (think Barney Fife meets Joe Apaio) he (and the Police Union) are currently fighting the move to create an independent coroner inquest panel because the one we currently have pretty much rubber stamps whatever version of events the cops give.

Wow. The "Misconduct" section is quite a read.

Press reports indicate the department is more prone to fire its weapons at citizens than most other urban US police departments. The department ranked third behind Houston and Chicago, in officer-involved shootings per capita. During the period 1990 to 2011, the department reported 310 shooting incidents, 115 of them fatal. During this period three officers were killed in the line of duty. Although the local population is less than ten percent Black, about a third of those shot by the police are Black. In twenty-nine percent of the shootings, officers shot at each other....
The police union advised its members, starting in 2010, to no longer cooperate with coroner's inquests of police shootings.

Oh_Enough_Already:

There is an occupying army in this country right now, and it is your local police department.

Their continued and growing use of military tactics and weapons is only ratcheting up the stakes, how long until the citizenry responds in kind?


THIS