FARK.com: (6929392) "While Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum are making each other unelectable, the president is singing Al Green, congratulating Super Bowl winners, raising obscene amounts of campaign cash and watching his poll numbers soar"

If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

		"While Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum are making each other unelectable, the president is singing Al Green, congratulating Super Bowl winners, raising obscene amounts of campaign cash and watching his poll numbers soar" (washingtonpost.com)		323
		More: Spiffy, Rick Santorum, Super Bowl champions, watch

• • •

3824 clicks; posted to Politics » on 08 Feb 2012 at 12:38 PM | Favorite | share:

Share this link:

URL:

http://fark.com/go/6929392

Bookmark:

Article Comments close

323 Comments (+0 »)

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

Archived thread

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | » | Last | Show all

Khanivor		2012-02-08 05:04:40 PM

tlchwi02		2012-02-08 05:05:30 PM

bugontherug: In any event, he's wrong that the statement of a particular negates a generalization.

true, but i was addressing his idea that the specific wording didn't matter and you have to glean the deeper "intent" of his statement. Which, the way he said it, he still comes across as loving to fire people.

and its an incredibly stupid thing to say, one amongst many. Why would i vote for a president that keeps saying stupid things like that?

aselene		2012-02-08 05:05:47 PM

TsukasaK: I don't care if I get a permanent vacation for this, but man, am I glad some of those trolls were finally given the boot.

Me too.

Ed Finnerty		2012-02-08 05:08:06 PM

tlchwi02: CanisNoir: Wow, you're really reaching to come up with that load of crap. What Romney was saying in Context was that he enjoys being able to fire people who provide a bad service so that he can get someone who provides a good service. You know, common business sense. It's a sentiment shared by most intelligent people in this country. It's disingenuous to say that he just enjoys firing people. The context is totally different.

its also an exceptionally stupid thing for a politician that has already lost races because he reminded voters of the "guy who fired them" and his opponents brought up working class every-men who had actually been fired by him to talk about it, who repeatedly talks about his wealth and privledge in a way that alienates everyone but who is (at the same time) desperately trying to pretend that he is just a normal middle class person who can feel empathy with anyone other than ultra rich vulture capatilists to say.

so no matter the specific "context" romney is dumber than a brick for phrasing it as "i love to fire people!" instead of "i think choice for everyone is good" with the massive political baggage he has. And the way he said it, even in context, most people believe he honestly does like firing people in any situation.

Does he have to spell it out for you?

dtdstudios.com

Khanivor		2012-02-08 05:08:44 PM

D.I.Y.

/stoopid

Jackson Herring		2012-02-08 05:09:18 PM

theorellior: I'd rather talk about feeling what_now's boobies!

And I'd like a unicorn and a bag of 20 dollar bills.

Lou Brown		2012-02-08 05:10:41 PM

bugontherug: Lou Brown: FTFA: But historical patterns do not take into account an opponent who says he enjoys firing people.

You know, this is the type of disingenuous bullshiat that drives me crazy. Here's what Romney actually said:

"I like being able to fire people who provide services to me... You know, if someone doesn't give me the good service I need, I want to say, 'You know, I'm going to get someone else to provide this service to me.'"

That's a far cry from saying he enjoys firing people. It's something I imagine people would agree with in most cases. For many reasons, health insurance isn't one of those cases, but overall the author is totally misrepresenting what Romney was trying to say.

No, really he isn't. "I like being able to fire people" isn't really all that far of a cry from saying he enjoys firing people. It's only a one word qualification away from it, in fact. The "context" you're offering doesn't diminish the meaning of the quote anyway. Yeah, he likes being able to fire insurance companies. In explaining that, he began with the phrase "I like being able to fire people." His statement of who he particularly enjoys firing does not undermine or diminish the generalization.

Public Personality:
"I like being able to eat good food. You know, if someone doesn't give me the good food I like, I want to say 'you know, I'm going to get someone else to provide this food to me."

News Media:
"So you like being able to eat good food?"

You:
"ZOMG!!! HE SAID NOTHING LIKE THAT. PUT THAT STATEMENT IN FULL CONTEXT YOU LIBERAL SCUM!!! ZOMG!!! OH NOES!!!"

Mitt Romney likes being able to fire people. He likes being in a position of authority that permits him to disrupt the lives of people he considers subordinate to him by causing them short term economic distress, and possible long term career damage. That's the full import of what he said. Given his vulture capitalist background, I believe him.

If you think some sort of Romney lover, liberal basher, or Farker who wants a Republican to win the Presidency, well... you're way off base. There is a massive difference between "liking being able to fire" people and "liking firing" people. For example, do you know anyone who likes the idea of entering a multi-year contract with their cell phone company? No, because it locks you into an agreement and prevents you from firing them if necessary. Does that mean you want to do it or look forward to doing it? Of course not, but sometimes shiat happens. And as I said before, health insurance is a totally different animal anyhow.

tlchwi02		2012-02-08 05:10:59 PM

Ed Finnerty: Does he have to spell it out for you?

even his creepy photos are subliminal!

Ed Finnerty		2012-02-08 05:12:16 PM

I've always liked this pic. Speaks volumes.

lennavan		2012-02-08 05:12:54 PM

qorkfiend: We saw in 2010 what an apathetic left plus a motivated right gets us.

2010 wasn't about POTUS though and that's the way elections always cycle. In 2010, we actually saw less swing to the right than would have normally been expected. When Obama starts running his campaign in full swing, we'll see what a semi-motivated left plus an apathetic right get us. The left isn't motivated yet because what do we have to get motivated about? All the political news is about Rmoney and Gingrich and now Santorum. The base is kickin back and enjoyin the lulz, at least thats what I think.

theorellior		2012-02-08 05:14:23 PM

aselene: TsukasaK: I don't care if I get a permanent vacation for this, but man, am I glad some of those trolls were finally given the boot.

Me too.

LOL.

s2s2s2		2012-02-08 05:15:11 PM

lennavan		2012-02-08 05:16:30 PM

TsukasaK: I don't care if I get a permanent vacation for this, but man, am I glad some of those trolls were finally given the boot.

Seriously. It's about time. Thanks, modmins.

I was too. Then a "new" crop popped up. I don't think the trolls were given the boot is the right way to think about it. I think the trolls were forced to create new accounts is.

s2s2s2		2012-02-08 05:17:40 PM

lennavan: TsukasaK: I don't care if I get a permanent vacation for this, but man, am I glad some of those trolls were finally given the boot.

Seriously. It's about time. Thanks, modmins.

I was too. Then a "new" crop popped up. I don't think the trolls were given the boot is the right way to think about it. I think the trolls were forced to create new accounts is.

Golly, I guess I'm glad I called in late.

Jackson Herring		2012-02-08 05:19:16 PM

Ed Finnerty: [dtdstudios.com image 500x449]

I've always liked this pic. Speaks volumes.

CapnBlues		2012-02-08 05:19:27 PM

bugontherug		2012-02-08 05:23:03 PM

Lou Brown: If you think some sort of Romney lover, liberal basher, or Farker who wants a Republican to win the Presidency, well... you're way off base. There is a massive difference between "liking being able to fire" people and "liking firing" people.

Why do people keep talking about this? I've never said Mittens likes firing people. I've quoted the man verbatim, explaining with a linguistic analogy how his particular didn't negate his generalization.

Mitt Romney likes being able to fire people. He likes being in a position of authority that permits him to disrupt the lives of people he considers subordinate to him by causing them short term economic distress, and possible long term career damage. That's the full import of what he said. Given his vulture capitalist background, I believe him.

Ed Finnerty		2012-02-08 05:23:56 PM

CapnBlues: lennavan: TsukasaK: I don't care if I get a permanent vacation for this, but man, am I glad some of those trolls were finally given the boot.

Seriously. It's about time. Thanks, modmins.

I was too. Then a "new" crop popped up. I don't think the trolls were given the boot is the right way to think about it. I think the trolls were forced to create new accounts is.

and some of them do just tire of their games, or suddenly their conscience catches up with them, or a combination of the two.

Maybe they just need to tend to their successful small businesses.

Seriously though, I just purged my Ignore list based on this news.

Jackson Herring		2012-02-08 05:23:59 PM

Khanivor: [www.jhocy.com image 520x650]

D.I.Y.

/stoopid

I can do this all night

s2s2s2		2012-02-08 05:23:59 PM

CapnBlues: and some of them do just tire of their games, or suddenly their conscience catches up with them, or a combination of the two.

Sometimes we have to poke our heads through the curtain when our audience mistakes the tale.

/xoxo

verbaltoxin		2012-02-08 05:28:05 PM

CanisNoir again shows why he is Fark Trollmaster General.

Ed Finnerty		2012-02-08 05:30:13 PM

To be fair, Willard is too busy doing laundry.

www.glittarazzi.com

Tax Boy		2012-02-08 05:33:13 PM

spcMike: James!: If I were president I'd have that thing mounted on top of the White House and use it to pelt congress.

[i1231.photobucket.com image 640x619]

i.qkme.me

CapnBlues		2012-02-08 05:34:01 PM

Ed Finnerty: Seriously though, I just purged my Ignore list based on this news.

i know we're not supposed to discuss these things in-thread. is there someone I could discreetly email and get the low-down, since I was late to the thread?

/forgiveness, mods. I beg forgiveness.

Khanivor		2012-02-08 05:34:26 PM

bugontherug		2012-02-08 05:34:30 PM

verbaltoxin: CanisNoir again shows why he is Fark Trollmaster General.

Are you sure about that? What if CanisNoir is the one who got trolled?

(Twilight Zone music)

Jackson Herring		2012-02-08 05:39:17 PM

Khanivor: [upload.wikimedia.org image 500x345]

[dc.streetsblog.org image 404x301]

Woah that's pretty meta

Ed Finnerty		2012-02-08 05:39:50 PM

CapnBlues:

I'm not in the know, just testing things based on what I've read.

MFL		2012-02-08 05:41:42 PM

BuckTurgidson: bugontherug: qorkfiend: lennavan: He's not going to lose.

I hope not, but this far out, anything is possible.

The greatest threat to Obama's re-election is the perception that it is inevitable. Progressives have a nasty habit of not turning out to vote if they think victory is assured, or if they think defeat is inevitable, or if the weather is bad, or if their toenails need trimming, or if it's laundry day...

Getting them out to vote is like herding cats. And it's why progressives deserve to lose.

This is one of the GOP's saving hopes. There's going to be concern-trolling this year the likes of which God himself has never seen.

That and vote suppression. My own state's Secretary of State is a dedicated Republican operative and has been busy looking for ways to keep ballots out of the hands of voters in the liberal cities.

Next summer will decide everything. 4th qtr of last year wasnt horrible giving potus a boost.... But...gas prices are at record highs for this time of year...economic recovery is still fragile at best...food prices continue to soar...will the short term economic boost of buying our own debt be enough to counter the inevitable pullback that follows...will it last until November or crash in the 2nd or 3rd qtr like last year...

Lunchlady		2012-02-08 05:44:04 PM

xria		2012-02-08 05:46:28 PM

FeedTheCollapse: Minus1Kelvin: Is it just my imagination or has there been a palpable lack of the well known, "well opinionated" Fark rightwing trolls today in the Politics tab? Maybe they've finally decided to just take their ball and go home...

if you're smart, it's because you added those trolls to your ignore list and then chose the option to ignore people responding to those trolls...

The hint is when you see a political thread with 277 comments listed and click into the comments and the number drops to something like 125 and there seems to be very little trolling.

/there will always be plenty of comments to read, so there seems little reason to give anyone the benefit of the doubt

Khanivor		2012-02-08 05:48:48 PM

MSFT		2012-02-08 05:51:08 PM

Dubwise: MSFT: I want him to sing this song next time, in its entirety:

Great album!

Dammit, I've got the song but not the album. Thanks for posting this, I'll download today.
Love pretty much all of Al Green's work, too. In fact, I think a lot of this stuff is vastly underrated by today's standards.

I'm old.

freetomato		2012-02-08 05:59:54 PM

bugontherug: Progressives have a nasty habit of not turning out to vote if they think victory is assured...

On what do you base that statement that reeks of wishful thinking?

MrCheeks		2012-02-08 06:01:19 PM

You Li*MURPH*!

Dahnkster		2012-02-08 06:04:16 PM

bugontherug		2012-02-08 06:41:04 PM

freetomato: bugontherug: Progressives have a nasty habit of not turning out to vote if they think victory is assured...

On what do you base that statement that reeks of wishful thinking?

You got me all wrong. I wish they would turn out to vote.

Gen. Patton Harvey Oswalt		2012-02-08 06:51:35 PM

Lando Lincoln		2012-02-08 06:59:06 PM

wholedamnshow: Look, there's enough dirt on Romney where we don't have to take things that far out of context.

He said he enjoys being able to fire people that provide services to him. And he was talking about healthcare at the time.

He's implying that in our healthcare system we're not able to switch doctors or other healthcare providers that provide services to us.

Well, that's kinda true. I can choose from a lot of different doctors in my healthcare plan, but my company forces Aetna down my throat and my only other choice is to pay for my own healthcare insurance. And I don't get paid nearly enough to be able to afford that, so my two choices are to stay with Aetna or to not have health insurance.

So yeah, that kinda sucks.

But Romney isn't proposing any legislation that would help me out with my predicament. If anything, he'd like to repeal "Obamacare" and that would mean that my sons would be no longer eligible to be on my healthcare insurance plan again.

So the context isn't really helpful to Romney at all.

Lunchlady		2012-02-08 06:59:57 PM

lovelifelikeyourself.files.wordpress.com

abb3w		2012-02-08 07:03:09 PM

lacrossestar83: GaryPDX's account has been deleted.

...which leads to some oddities in the Fark DB.

a.imageshack.us

/Rule 60: Keep your lies consistent.
//Corollary: When all else fails, tell the truth.

Critch		2012-02-08 07:04:18 PM

Minus1Kelvin: Is it just my imagination or has there been a palpable lack of the well known, "well opinionated" Fark rightwing trolls today in the Politics tab? Maybe they've finally decided to just take their ball and go home...

Once the ignore feature got tweaked and you couldn't see their posts after you ignored them, they faded away.

TV's Vinnie		2012-02-08 07:20:18 PM

Lando Lincoln: And he's actually governing. I've heard he's still attending meetings and stuff now and then.

Yeah. What's this guy's problem?

srewolf		2012-02-08 07:24:53 PM

Walker: A sequel coming soon......

[img.photobucket.com image 580x398]

/can't wait to see if the daughter still wears matching outfits with her doll and the son still looks like he's just been told they are digging up the back yard where he buried the bodies.

I still can't totally believe that's a real photo. It has to be a photoshop, right??

FeedTheCollapse		2012-02-08 07:35:05 PM

abb3w: lacrossestar83: GaryPDX's account has been deleted.

...which leads to some oddities in the Fark DB.

[a.imageshack.us image 640x61]

/Rule 60: Keep your lies consistent.
//Corollary: When all else fails, tell the truth.

hm, I've never seen them delete a user profile. Even the FArQ says they don't...

Friction8r		2012-02-08 07:37:22 PM

Minus1Kelvin: Is it just my imagination or has there been a palpable lack of the well known, "well opinionated" Fark rightwing trolls today in the Politics tab? Maybe they've finally decided to just take their ball and go home...

Oh I'm still here, but I don't like the republican candidates and am more focused on my own wealth creation then attempting to argue basic economics with idiotic, atheist libs. My goal is to pay high taxes because that means I'm making money contributing to our economy, unlike the welfare leeches in the "progressive" party! Thanks for thinking of me!

Dwight_Yeast		2012-02-08 07:42:24 PM

srewolf: I still can't totally believe that's a real photo. It has to be a photoshop, right??

Nope. That was from his concession speech, the night he lost his Senate seat here in PA.

jackieeeee		2012-02-08 08:04:30 PM

Wicked Chinchilla: Lord Dimwit: Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: DeltaPunch: gtomako: "While Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum are making each other unelectable, the president is singing Al Green, congratulating Super Bowl winners, raising obscene amounts of campaign cash, watching his poll numbers soar and kicking Catholic Church ass."

[desmond.imageshack.us image 640x431]

The best part is that 60% of Catholics support birth control, so this may end up creating a bit of schism in the Church itself, more than anything else...

I thought it was more like 98%, or is that just in America?

I know so many women (okay, like, three) who are too Catholic to use birth control, but not so Catholic as to avoid premarital sex. All of them ended up having kids as teenagers.

Catholics: Educate your children. If they're going to sin and have premarital sex, have them also sin and use birth control. Seriously.

Never understood this either. You are already "crossing the line" so to speak by having sex. Why not just be smart about it and use contraception?

/I am going to rob a bank, but I wont use a mask.....
//Seriously?

Because some men in power feel most comfortable when they have power over women. It's not about babies or Jesus, it's the fact that a woman can have sex and not have repercussions.

mrshowrules		2012-02-08 08:22:06 PM

Jackson Herring: Ed Finnerty: [dtdstudios.com image 500x449]

I've always liked this pic. Speaks volumes.

[dtdstudios.com image 500x449]

[www.intrigueboutique.com image 500x500]

Consistently shoving your foot up the GOP's ass can be hard on footwear. It's hard work making them look so bad.

jpo2269		2012-02-08 08:57:58 PM

JerseyTim

While I am no fan of our president, I have to say I do like that picture you posted. The "holy shiat that is soo cool" look on his face humanises the man. The appreciation of "cool shiat" is something most men can all agree on, regardless of political party.

Displayed 50 of 323 comments