James!: Is this a republican "but but bush"?

No, this is what happens when the secret muslim palling around with terrorist appeaser foreigner kills more terrorists in three years with less deaths than the God fearing cowboy, born again American did in eight. Republicans want to like him for it, but they think if they do they might catch teh gay or something.

FTA: "A new Washington Post-ABC News poll shows that Obama, who campaigned on a pledge to close the brig at Guantanamo Bay and to change national security policies he criticized as inconsistent with U.S. law and values, has little to fear politically for failing to live up to all of those promises."


Obama's NDAA signing statement:


"My administration will not authorize the indefinite military detention without trial of American citizens ... Indeed, I believe that doing so would break with our most important traditions and values as a nation,"


Yeah, we believe you, Mr. President.

Whar is the outrage?

No, the article has a point. 'Nation building' was opposed as fascist when Bush did it, and as completely acceptable and stuff when Obama did it in Lybia. Also: Guantanamo could have been closed in the first two years of Obama's reign (when there was a Democratic congress) but wasn't. There *is* an element of 'same as the old boss' in this whole story, and clever oneliners in the reactions here aren't going to change that.

Speak for yourself.

/I know: novel idea in the USA.

Greetings Foreign Citizen. Human President Obama Has deemed you guilty. Prepare for Judgement.

nekom: The problem with the idea that he was going to close Gitmo is that it would only have been some symbolic gesture. We still need to determine what exactly the status of the inmates is, that was never made clear through Bush or Obama. Are they lawful or unlawful combatants? Federal prisoners? Prisoners of war? What would you do with them if Gitmo were to be closed?

I do like the part where he killed bin laden though.

you're assuming bin laden actually existed in the first place

He stopped torture and ended one of the wars, but don't let that stop you from being whiny, lying pieces of shiat.

People blindly agree with the latest to come out of the party they've already identified with.

And in other news, water is still wet.

Coming on a Bicycle: No, the article has a point. 'Nation building' was opposed as fascist when Bush did it, and as completely acceptable and stuff when Obama did it in Lybia. Also: Guantanamo could have been closed in the first two years of Obama's reign (when there was a Democratic congress) but wasn't. There *is* an element of 'same as the old boss' in this whole story, and clever oneliners in the reactions here aren't going to change that.

I get the feeling that if Obama hadn't done anything in Libya you'd be here giving him shiat for "Standing by and doing nothing while a brutal dictator slaughtered innocent people."

This is not the change I was hoping for.

WTF Indeed: but they think if they do they might catch teh gay

More of it?

I live in a city that was looking at receiving Gitmo transfers to the Naval Brig at NWS Charleston. Our reps threw a fit at the idea of all of these terrorists escaping into the 22nd most dangerous city in the US. Silly me, I thought they were going to the brig to be imprisoned!

Anyhow, while I want to see the GITMO prison closed, I have to blame those that have blocked its closure for it remaining open. Drone strikes are dicey, but they're still directly controlled; I don't have a problem with tomahawks being used and those are effectively fire-and-forget. Drone strikes have the capability of being stopped right until blow-up time.

Anyone who does that is a tool, a hypocrite, and intellectually dishonest.

Obama troll bait looking juicy this morning

WE OPPOSE TORTURE.

We no longer have an official pro-torture policy.

STOP ENDLESS WARS.

War in Iraq is over, Afghanistan soon enough.

CLOSE GITMO

Talk to Congress.

/wtf is a torture drone?

Yes, yes that is EXACTLY what America is saying. Dumbass

Meanwhile, this current crop of campaigners is trying to prove that they're most like the guy that sold weapons to our enemies in order to fund death squads ran by a South American dictator.

But yeah, Obama has ruined our country. I swear, every time I get to disliking a Democratic president, the Republicans go full force and make me support him again.

What's up with that?

Mandated health insurance = Obama - One term and done.

Ric Romero reporting: Partisan peoples act in partisan mannner. Full report at eleven.

Yeah, but the main stream media is not biased at all so it has absolutely nothing to do with this.

Coming on a Bicycle: No, the article has a point. 'Nation building' was opposed as fascist when Bush did it, and as completely acceptable and stuff when Obama did it in Lybia.

We weren't/aren't nation building in Libya. In fact, that's what the GOP wanted and criticized Obama for "leading from behind".

Man On Pink Corner: Coming on a Bicycle: No, the article has a point. 'Nation building' was opposed as fascist when Bush did it, and as completely acceptable and stuff when Obama did it in Libya

Correct, because in Obama's case, the bill was measured in millions rather than trillions.




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