Dnrta but I'm going to assume it involved meth

I bet they are going to miss that pig

From the comments:

"I AM A COP I WILL TOOK THIS HOB ON! GREAT COLLAR!"

Yup.

Squtterers should be shot on sight!
/Am I doing it right?

Were they teacup pigs?

And I usually only worry about my neighbor's kid stealing my checkbook again. Now I have to worry when I go to the store they might just move into my house altogether. lol

How the fark do you get (assuming live) grenades in this country? Sure in parts of Africa and the mid east they can be grabbed in weapons markets for maybe $5. but in FL by some broke squatters? That is troubling to me.

Well, as shiat as Miami is, at least it wasn't the UK. Then the homeowner would be SOL and the squatters would never leave.

justanotherfarkinfarker: How the fark do you get (assuming live) grenades in this country? Sure in parts of Africa and the mid east they can be grabbed in weapons markets for maybe $5. but in FL by some broke squatters? That is troubling to me.

Miami, apparently.

Aulus: Wow, that is about ten blocks from where I and my wife lived in 1974.

Nice to know the neighborhood is about the same.

CSB/

My GF and I wanted to rent a home here in town that she had lived in years before. Nice little 3Br with a deck in a quiet neighborhood of newer homes with property that opened up to a year-round creek and old-growth redwoods. The landlord wanted more that what we were willing to pay, but we were still kicking around the idea.

That is until about 2 weeks ago, it became local news after a neighbor complaint about loud parties and the smeel of weed emanating from it, and the police got involved. The house was vacant. It had been taken over by half a dozen 20-somethings to use as a party house under the guise of the "Occupy What The Fark Ever" in protesting the plight of the homeless apparently. They farking TRASHED it. Kicked out walls, windows, ripped out appliances, carpet and even had a campfire in the kitchen. Now it'll never be rented anytime soon and the property owner gets the bill for now.

So much for renting it now. Or hell even buying it. Damage was estimated at $30k or so. This is an issue with homeless idiots like these-it's not so much as being homeless anywhere, like say, a tent or abandoned warehouse for shelter. What they really want is a clubhouse to do drugs out of sight.

justanotherfarkinfarker: How the fark do you get (assuming live) grenades in this country? Sure in parts of Africa and the mid east they can be grabbed in weapons markets for maybe $5. but in FL by some broke squatters? That is troubling to me.


If larger items like rifles, bazookas and jeeps can go missing (be stolen) I'm sure a fist-sized piece of metal isn't going to be a problem.

/bazooka = any shoulder-fired rocket-propelled weapon

What, No Panther and Parrot on a bed of mangos?



/Hot like Florida this winter.

justanotherfarkinfarker: How the fark do you get (assuming live) grenades in this country? Sure in parts of Africa and the mid east they can be grabbed in weapons markets for maybe $5. but in FL by some broke squatters? That is troubling to me.

My friend is a Class III Federal Firearms Licensee (that is, he can engage in the trade of National Firearms Act-regulated items like machine guns, silencers, destructive devices, etc.). There are legitimate sources for grenades that he acquires for sale (mostly to government agencies, but also to private citizens on occasion).

Of course, such items are quite expensive and heavily regulated. In addition to the purchase price of the grenade itself, each grenade is treated as a separate destructive device and a $200 tax is assessed on the sale of each one. Each one requires a modest amount of federal paperwork, approval of the buyer's local law enforcement (e.g. chief of police, sheriff, etc.) and the federal ATF, fingerprints, background check, etc. Takes about a month or two for private citizens. The taxes and whatnot are, if I recall correctly, waived for police/military/government sales.

Not many people are willing to jump through so many hoops just for one "bang". The same paperwork and taxes is needed for privately owned artillery -- the gun is the destructive device, not the projectiles (so long as one does not use explosive projectiles, which would be DDs in their own right). Sure, the gun is more expensive than the grenades, but you can use it multiple times.

That said, I suspect the squatters acquired their grenades through more dubious sources than a federally-licensed dealer.

TheYeti: These people sound like more than your average shiathead squatters, who normally just kind of suck.

This is something else.

Holdouts from the Republican primaries last week?

I'm sure it's happened but I can't remember hearing about any case in the United States where someone used a grenade as a weapon in an assault or murder. It doesn't seem like a very useful defence weapon.

It would still be cool to have one... I'd ten.

Dr J Zoidberg: Subby, there's no need to belittle the man's wife

I was thinking sex slave but they could be the same

I'm surprised there was no burglary or B&E charge.

Torok: I'm sure it's happened but I can't remember hearing about any case in the United States where someone used a grenade as a weapon in an assault or murder.

True most of the small bombings I can think of were homemade devices.

/m67's would be fun on the 4th of July.

fanbladesaresharp: The landlord wanted more that what we were willing to pay, but we were still kicking around the idea.

That is until about 2 weeks ago, it became local news after a neighbor complaint about loud parties and the smeel of weed emanating from it, and the police got involved. The house was vacant. It had been taken over by half a dozen 20-somethings to use as a party house under the guise of the "Occupy What The Fark Ever" in protesting the plight of the homeless apparently. They farking TRASHED it. Kicked out walls, windows, ripped out appliances, carpet and even had a campfire in the kitchen. Now it'll never be rented anytime soon and the property owner gets the bill for now.

So much for renting it now. Or hell even buying it.

I think it is interesting how long some landlords are willing to keep a vacant house rather than lower the price. Our next-door neighbor is like that -- house has been vacant for over a year, she regularly shows it to prospective renters, but it is just priced pretty high ($3k/month).

You'd think that a free market would mean that the landlord would simply lower the price to match demand, but with housing (both renting and selling) owners have a very strong resistance to lower price based on what they think it should be worth.

I also kinda understand that as a landlord you have to be careful because once you have renters you're sort of locked into the rental price forever (at least within the laws allowing rent increases). But still, it must not take too long of having no renter to make a reduction in rental price worth capitulating.

Gilligann: It's nice to read an article where the squatter isn't allowed to continue living in the house they're trying to steal.

While this is true, these douches won't be in jail forever, and the worst part is, they know where the homeowner lives.

At this point he probably needs his own guns and grenades for defence.

TheYeti: jabelar: You'd think that a free market would mean that the landlord would simply lower the price to match demand, but with housing (both renting and selling) owners have a very strong resistance to lower price based on what they think it should be worth.

Probably depends on how they weigh the ability to write off the loss on their taxes versus the lowering rent. Then again, I'm no tax scientist, and I think that you can't write it off if your AGI is >150k, so who knows..

I'm no expert either, but I believe that the losses have to be offset against the rental income; I don't think it helps against your regular active income taxes. You generally cannot offset income, other than passive income, with losses from passive activities. However, I guess it can be carried forward to the next tax year. Or maybe this lady has multiple rentals and can offset loss on one against income from the others.

Some people are just stubborn

This is my main point though. If you've showed your property to several dozen prospective renters and none are willing to pay the rent, then you're simply out of touch with the market. I don't see what the point is of being a landlord when you are essentially deciding to keep your rentals empty.

Gilligann: It's nice to read an article where the squatter isn't allowed to continue living in the house they're trying to steal.

This.

A recipe for violence. And bacon.

There's something here, but I can't put my finger on it.

Miami...there's a bay, right? And I know there are lots of Cubans. Throw in a pig and a grenade....

It's almost there...

gojirast: Well, as shiat as Miami is, at least it wasn't the UK. Then the homeowner would be SOL and the squatters would never leave.

Thats what I was thinking at first, then when I saw that it was in the US, I was glad to know the police would actualy do something about it.
Must suck when the bobbies show up at your flat, and say "Sorry old bean, I haven't any notion on how you could get those lively chaps to leave. Have you tried filing a complaint with the magistrate? Well, hip hip, cheerio. I am off to find some tea and crumpets."

While it's nice to have the option of police intervention, I think I'd like to handle this matter myself. The police find out there are grenades to be had, and you'll be lucky if SWAT leaves most of your wall standing. Besides, once the police siezed the drugs and pig, I'd have a nice stash of grenades to play with.

This is the 3rd grenade incident in South Florida I hear about in the past couple of months.The other two involved people finding them in their backyard.

http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/Grenade-Found-in-Backyard-of-Miami - Gardens-Home-138263089.html

http://www.theledger.com/article/20111229/news/111229260

Is someone giving them away?

Well all they need is hookers and a keg and its a party!!!

jabelar: TheYeti: jabelar:
Some people are just stubborn

This is my main point though. If you've showed your property to several dozen prospective renters and none are willing to pay the rent, then you're simply out of touch with the market. I don't see what the point is of being a landlord when you are essentially deciding to keep your rentals empty.

In what I posted above, the landlord lives 600 miles away, but was the owner/occupier years ago. So not only is he an out of touch, absent landlord, it's been vacant for over a year now. I have a in-city view lot as it is, walking distance from everything and her kid's school. He wanted several hundred more for an end of the road forested alcove on the far edge of town, walking distance from perhaps a tree. (Granted they're 1000 year old trees in a city park, which is nice...) and a creek . We would have jumped at it if he would have matched what we pay now, rent it for probably another 4 years at least, but he wasn't moving on it. And that's not taking into account he didn't use a property management company to keep an eye on shiat happening like it did and who to rent through, so getting hold of him took about a month for a reply.

To add to all that, this is a remote city of only 30k people and this shiat is happening nearly every week; people breaking into homes and squatting There were 3 fires just last month in 100 year old vacant Victorians that were the result of people deciding a campfire in the middle of a bedroom rather than the available fireplace was a good idea. Now all these properties are piles of burnt shiat - literally and figuratively - and 2 of them have been condemned.

Then as you say, you have these out-of-touch holdouts that want too much for rent and the riff-raff eventually moved in. In our case, the landlord could have rented to pot growers and still had someone around to pay the rent on it. They are finding out that sure, you can have some idyllic, pastoral, beachside, rural setting, but that does not mean someone is going to pay $3500 a month for it- If there is anyone that could afford it in an economically depressed, remote region. The fishing and golfing ain't that good here.

One problem compounds another....and another....and another...and you end up on Fark.