Deja Vu

What a bummer of a game. Flyers were kicking ass for the last two periods but couldn't put on behind Nabokov. Bryz was good but it won't help his confidence any since he sucked in the shoot-out again (he's 2 for 10 on stopping shoot-out shots). Oh well, if he and the D keep playing well come playoff time they won't have to worry about any more shoot-outs.

Proof that you can shut out your opponent and still be SOL.

A double shutout? What does it meeeeeean?

"February 20, 1944 - The Chicago Blackhawks and the Toronto Maple Leafs play a "perfect game." The game ended in a scoreless tie (0-0). No penalties were called."

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Call me when this happens again...

Stitch Jones: "February 20, 1944 - The Chicago Blackhawks and the Toronto Maple Leafs play a "perfect game." The game ended in a scoreless tie (0-0). No penalties were called."

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Call me when this happens again...

The red wings and Avalanche had it happen several years ago before the OT/shootout loss point.

It was towards(or just after?) the end of their ferocious rivalry (2001-2004?) and considered a rarity because of the animosity between the teams at the time

octopied: ferocious rivalry (2001-2004?)

Earlier than that. Claude Lemieux's cheap shot was in 1996.

So, it's been a while since I've seen hockey on TV. Whatever happened to the "revolutionary" glowing puck?

whizbangthedirtfarmer: So, it's been a while since I've seen hockey on TV. Whatever happened to the "revolutionary" glowing puck?

As punishment for that abomination, FOX was punished by being prohibited from ever showing a hockey game again and is required to keep Joe Buck on its "A" broadcasting team to ruin all of its marquee NFL games.

Nabokov was a brick wall in this one. - That said, most of the shots he stopped weren't tremendously tricky. I'd have liked to see the Flyers get some better chances, but oh well.

/Also, the Flyers STINK in the shootout.

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abmoraz: whizbangthedirtfarmer: So, it's been a while since I've seen hockey on TV. Whatever happened to the "revolutionary" glowing puck?

As punishment for that abomination, FOX was punished by being prohibited from ever showing a hockey game again and is required to keep Joe Buck on its "A" broadcasting team to ruin all of its marquee NFL games.

Awesome.

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Whoa. Broken hip?

/I really don't know who that is but I'm interested. During a practice I assume.

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Whoa. Broken hip?

/I really don't know who that is but I'm interested. During a practice I assume.

That's Sabres coach Lindy Ruff showing his solidarity with the team.

/Broke three ribs at mondays practice when D Jordan Leopold lost an edge and blindsided him

boxiebrown: I had Bryz, Lundqvist, and Nabokov going in fantasy last night. I started Lundqvist (no-brainer) and Bryz. Ouch.

Kyle Quincey's completely superfluous empty-netter last night did wonders for my fantasy team. Thanks, Kyle "solid defenseman who's already played on 400 NHL teams before turning 27 and is on the trading block yet again" Quincey.

boxiebrown: I had Bryz, Lundqvist, and Nabokov going in fantasy last night. I started Lundqvist (no-brainer) and Bryz. Ouch.

I have Bryz, Nabokov, Crawford and Halak. Halak and Crawford were sitting so I was left playing the competing goalies. I never thought it would it work out like that.

FreakinB: I don't even like that not all games are worth the same amount of total points.

I hear this a lot in these threads, and as a newer fan of hockey (thanks Dollar Bill Wirtz), it seems to me that the concept of points is just leftover from having ties. I prefer having a winner each game as opposed to ties, preferably by playing hockey until a goal is scored. If the thought of endless OT periods scares people, I am fine with the shootout.

I do think they should get rid of OTL though. Just use W-L record to decide things. It shouldn't matter if it took 60 or 65 min, one team lost, one team won. There shouldn't be extra credit for going a certain distance.

whizbangthedirtfarmer: So, it's been a while since I've seen hockey on TV. Whatever happened to the "revolutionary" glowing puck?

Way up here in Canada land we get coverage of all four major sports. (hockey heavy of course) Even the most casual fan has a basic idea of what's happening year to year in all four. They may not follow the NBA for example, but know about who is champion or who the hot teams are. (Heat, Lakers, etc.)

Even though the NHL's problems in the states are well known, it's still a shock to actually see comments like this. There's a whole lot of Americans who have no idea about the NHL or react to it's mention like, "Oh yeah, hockey. Watched a bit of that in 1994. Played some hockey video games too. Whatever happened to that sport?"

Doesn't really matter. In the great markets, the NHL is bigger than ever. But with all the movement and expansion to the US, how the hell did this happen?

/What now Bettman?

3 points for a regulation win
2 for an OT Win/shootout
1 for an OT loss/shootout
0 for a regulation loss

Do this and the proper teams will be in the playoffs every year.

Since this was done late in the thread last time this was a story. Below is my post in the previous thread containing last years standings if done under the proposed 3pts for reg or ot(ie, playing hockey) win and 2/1 for shootout games and 0 for reg/OT losses.

Begin here.

since i was bored, i re-did last years standings based on the 3 pts for a Reg or OT win, 2 Pts for a SO W, 1 PT for a SO loss and 0 pts for a Reg or OT L.(determined if a game was a OTL or a SOL using hockey-reference.com all other stats from NHL.com

and barely a damn bit of difference was made. (i'll highlight the differences below the standings.)

First, the standings as they actually happened. since the page will lose table formatting, just remember that the last column is the PTS total.

East GP W L OT P
 Z - WASHINGTON 82 48 23 11 107
 Y - PHILADELPHIA 82 47 23 12 106
 Y - BOSTON 82 46 25 11 103
 X - PITTSBURGH 82 49 25 8 106
 X - TAMPA BAY 82 46 25 11 103
 X - MONTRÉAL 82 44 30 8 96
 X - BUFFALO 82 43 29 10 96
 X - NY RANGERS 82 44 33 5 93
 CAROLINA 82 40 31 11 91
 TORONTO 82 37 34 11 85
 NEW JERSEY 82 38 39 5 81
 ATLANTA 82 34 36 12 80
 OTTAWA 82 32 40 10 74
 NY ISLANDERS 82 30 39 13 73
 FLORIDA 82 30 40 12 72

WEST GP W L OT P
 P - VANCOUVER 82 54 19 9 117
 Y - SAN JOSE 82 48 25 9 105
 Y - DETROIT 82 47 25 10 104
 X - ANAHEIM 82 47 30 5 99
 X - NASHVILLE 82 44 27 11 99
 X - PHOENIX 82 43 26 13 99
 X - LOS ANGELES 82 46 30 6 98
 X - CHICAGO 82 44 29 9 97
 DALLAS 82 42 29 11 95
 CALGARY 82 41 29 12 94
 ST LOUIS 82 38 33 11 87
 MINNESOTA 82 39 35 8 86
 COLUMBUS 82 34 35 13 81
 COLORADO 82 30 44 8 68
 EDMONTON 82 25 45 12 62

standings re-done under 3-2-1 pts system

East ROW RL OTL SOW SOL 3-2-1 pts
 Y - PHILADELPHIA 44 23 5 3 7 145
 Z - WASHINGTON 43 23 5 5 6 145
 Y - BOSTON 44 25 5 2 6 142
 X - PITTSBURGH 39 25 5 10 3 140
 X - TAMPA BAY 40 25 5 6 6 138
 X - MONTRÉAL 41 30 5 3 3 132
 X - NY RANGERS 35 33 2 9 3 126
 X - BUFFALO 38 29 9 5 1 125
 CAROLINA 35 31 6 5 5 120
 NEW JERSEY 35 39 3 3 2 113
 TORONTO 32 34 5 5 6 112
 ATLANTA 29 36 5 5 7 104
 OTTAWA 30 40 5 2 5 99
 FLORIDA 26 40 5 4 7 93
 NY ISLANDERS 26 39 7 4 6 92


West ROW RL OTL SOW SOL 3-2-1 pts
 P - VANCOUVER 50 19 4 4 5 163
 Y - SAN JOSE 43 25 4 5 5 144
 Y - DETROIT 43 25 6 4 4 141
 X - ANAHEIM 43 30 3 4 2 139
 X - CHICAGO 38 29 4 6 5 131
 X - NASHVILLE 38 27 7 6 4 130
 X - PHOENIX 38 26 7 5 6 130
 X - LOS ANGELES 36 30 4 10 2 130
 DALLAS 37 29 4 5 7 128
 CALGARY 32 29 5 9 7 121
 MINNESOTA 36 35 3 3 5 119
 ST LOUIS 34 33 5 4 6 116
 COLUMBUS 29 35 5 5 8 105
 COLORADO 24 44 7 6 1 85
 EDMONTON 23 45 3 2 9 82


what changed?

in the east---
Philly took #1 in the east via the "more wins in Reg/OT" tiebreaker instead of being 1 pt behind the capitals.

Rangers and sabres also flip flop the 7 and 8 positions, interestingly enough this means that all 1st round match-ups would have been exactly the same

the Islanders finished last, 1 pt behind FLA instead of 2nd to last, 1 pt ahead of FLA

in the west ---
Chicago moved from 8th to 5th by finishing 1 pt ahead of nash, phx and LA instead of 1-2 pts behind those 3 teams. those 3 teams each moved down 1 slot in the same order they were in. and as an opposite to the east, this means that every first round matchup would have been DIFFERENT. heh
Minnesota and St louis flipped #11 and #12 in the west.

Impact on playoff race?

Calgary out by 9 pts instead of 3 pts, eliminating them much earlier.
Dallas out by 2 pts, the same as they were out by under the current system.

Carolina out by 5 points under new system instead of missing by 2 pts under old system.

Pittsburgh 5 pts back of #1 in east(and division) instead of 2 pts out of #1 in east and tied for division. Tampa similarly thrown further back from washington. Boston still handily won their division. montreal more securely in their position, Buf and NYR still finish neck and neck

Vancouver, and detroit still dominate their divisions, SJ wins solidly but anaheim was about 2 games back instead of 3. nashville phs la and chicago all still finish neck and neck and neck and neck.

by all measures: edmonton sucked last year, even if you transposed their "new" point total into the old standings, they still finish 23rd overall. heh the bottom 5 in the league all remain the same(lottery teams) and most importantly:

the same 16 teams make the playoffs

i have neither the time, nor the inclination to do this for other seasons. if anyone wants to do so, hit me up at my ultrafark email and i'll get you the raw xlsx file i worked off of over the weekend.

pelzo63: Since this was done late in the thread last time this was a story. Below is my post in the previous thread containing last years standings if done under the proposed 3pts for reg or ot(ie, playing hockey) win and 2/1 for shootout games and 0 for reg/OT losses.

Begin here.

since i was bored, i re-did last years standings based on the 3 pts for a Reg or OT win, 2 Pts for a SO W, 1 PT for a SO loss and 0 pts for a Reg or OT L.(determined if a game was a OTL or a SOL using hockey-reference.com all other stats from NHL.com

and barely a damn bit of difference was made. (i'll highlight the differences below the standings.)

First, the standings as they actually happened. since the page will lose table formatting, just remember that the last column is the PTS total.

East GP W L OT P
 Z - WASHINGTON 82 48 23 11 107
 Y - PHILADELPHIA 82 47 23 12 106
 Y - BOSTON 82 46 25 11 103
 X - PITTSBURGH 82 49 25 8 106
 X - TAMPA BAY 82 46 25 11 103
 X - MONTRÉAL 82 44 30 8 96
 X - BUFFALO 82 43 29 10 96
 X - NY RANGERS 82 44 33 5 93
 CAROLINA 82 40 31 11 91
 TORONTO 82 37 34 11 85
 NEW JERSEY 82 38 39 5 81
 ATLANTA 82 34 36 12 80
 OTTAWA 82 32 40 10 74
 NY ISLANDERS 82 30 39 13 73
 FLORIDA 82 30 40 12 72

WEST GP W L OT P
 P - VANCOUVER 82 54 19 9 117
 Y - SAN JOSE 82 48 25 9 105
 Y - DETROIT 82 47 25 10 104
 X - ANAHEIM 82 47 30 5 99
 X - NASHVILLE 82 44 27 11 99
 X - PHOENIX 82 43 26 13 99
 X - LOS ANGELES 82 46 30 6 98
 X - CHICAGO 82 44 29 9 97
 DALLAS 82 42 29 11 95
 CALGARY 82 41 29 12 94
 ST LOUIS 82 38 33 11 87
 MINNESOTA 82 39 35 8 86
 COLUMBUS 82 34 35 13 81
 COLORADO 82 30 44 8 68
 EDMONTON 82 25 45 12 62

standings re-done under 3-2-1 pts system

East ROW RL OTL SOW SOL 3-2-1 pts
 Y - PHILADELPHIA 44 23 5 3 7 145
 Z - WASHINGTON 43 23 5 5 6 145
 Y - BOSTON 44 25 5 2 6 142
 X - PITTSBURGH 39 25 5 10 3 140
 X - TAMPA BAY 40 25 5 6 6 138
 X - MONTRÉAL 41 30 5 3 3 132
 X - NY RANGERS 35 33 2 9 3 126
 X - BUFFALO 38 29 9 5 1 125
 CAROLINA 35 31 6 5 5 120
 NEW JERSEY 35 39 3 3 ...

Interesting stuff. I've somehow never noticed the calls for a reworking of the points system (which is weird because I think I follow most of the hockey threads on Fark) but as far as I'm concerned, the current system works fine, and your work seems to bear that out. Of all the things the NHL needs to improve, I would argue that the points system ought to be at the bottom of the list.

keylock71: ...And Tim Thomas is spouting off his political nonsense again. : /

Just keep stopping the pucks, Timmy.

First rate goalie with a third rate intellect...

Oh no! Where?
(And I never would have pegged him as the rocks-in-head type jock...he did go to UVM...)

pelzo63: Since this was done late in the thread last time this was a story. Below is my post in the previous thread containing last years standings if done under the proposed 3pts for reg or ot(ie, playing hockey) win and 2/1 for shootout games and 0 for reg/OT losses.

Who proposed that system?!
The reason for the change is to reward those who complete a game in regulation and 'penalize' those who go to OT.

Guidette Frankentits: pelzo63: Since this was done late in the thread last time this was a story. Below is my post in the previous thread containing last years standings if done under the proposed 3pts for reg or ot(ie, playing hockey) win and 2/1 for shootout games and 0 for reg/OT losses.

Who proposed that system?!
The reason for the change is to reward those who complete a game in regulation and 'penalize' those who go to OT.

A lot of people like that system on the theory that an OT win is still a win while playing team hockey, as opposed to a shootout win that is not a team hockey win.

But if you want to go through the stats pages and separate out the regulation wins from the OT wins(game by game team by team) be my guest, but I highly doubt it would make a dent.

robsul82: bottsicus: Oh no! Where?
(And I never would have pegged him as the rocks-in-head type jock...he did go to UVM...)

He posted about "standing with the Catholics and religious freedom" over Obama's birth control policy. Then he quoted "First They Came," not that he was in any way drawing a direct or indirect comparison between this and Nazi Germany. No sir, just that people should stand up even if they're not directly impacted. Why would he use that inflammatory content over just saying "this impacts everybody, regardless of whether or not you're a Catholic," then? Fark you, that's why.

Oh man... I guess I better like him on FB and start following him on Twitter so I can keep up with this BS...it sucks that I have to root for such a knucklehead.

Jesus...I just looked at Tim Thomas's FB page...it looks like a f*ckin Fark politics thread, only stupider...

Decillion: whizbangthedirtfarmer: So, it's been a while since I've seen hockey on TV. Whatever happened to the "revolutionary" glowing puck?

Way up here in Canada land we get coverage of all four major sports. (hockey heavy of course) Even the most casual fan has a basic idea of what's happening year to year in all four. They may not follow the NBA for example, but know about who is champion or who the hot teams are. (Heat, Lakers, etc.)

Even though the NHL's problems in the states are well known, it's still a shock to actually see comments like this. There's a whole lot of Americans who have no idea about the NHL or react to it's mention like, "Oh yeah, hockey. Watched a bit of that in 1994. Played some hockey video games too. Whatever happened to that sport?"

Doesn't really matter. In the great markets, the NHL is bigger than ever. But with all the movement and expansion to the US, how the hell did this happen?

/What now Bettman?

Weeeeellllll, if it is a comfort to you, I don't watch much TV at all, and usually try to take in my hockey games live, though I've not been able to do that for a while. I watched the Winter Classic this year and then the recent Pens/Caps battle, and just noticed that the puck no longer glowed.

That said, NBC's coverage of the NHL is pretty craptacular. I love hockey, and I think the live experience is great, but there's just something lost in the translation to 2D.

keylock71: ...And Tim Thomas is spouting off his political nonsense again. : /

Just keep stopping the pucks, Timmy.

First rate goalie with a third rate intellect...

robsul82: He posted about "standing with the Catholics and religious freedom" over Obama's birth control policy. Then he quoted "First They Came," not that he was in any way drawing a direct or indirect comparison between this and Nazi Germany. No sir, just that people should stand up even if they're not directly impacted. Why would he use that inflammatory content over just saying "this impacts everybody, regardless of whether or not you're a Catholic," then? Fark you, that's why.


bottsicus: Jesus...I just looked at Tim Thomas's FB page...it looks like a f*ckin Fark politics thread, only stupider...




/seems like all Thomas has to do is shave his moustache more towards the middle

pelzo63: A lot of people like that system on the theory that an OT win is still a win while playing team hockey, as opposed to a shootout win that is not a team hockey win.

But if you want to go through the stats pages and separate out the regulation wins from the OT wins(game by game team by team) be my guest, but I highly doubt it would make a dent.

Damn, that's A LOT of work. I'll do it when I get more time. Until then, you win this one, in regulation.

/3 points for pelzo63

fatalvenom: keylock71: ...And Tim Thomas is spouting off his political nonsense again. : /

Just keep stopping the pucks, Timmy.

First rate goalie with a third rate intellect...

robsul82: He posted about "standing with the Catholics and religious freedom" over Obama's birth control policy. Then he quoted "First They Came," not that he was in any way drawing a direct or indirect comparison between this and Nazi Germany. No sir, just that people should stand up even if they're not directly impacted. Why would he use that inflammatory content over just saying "this impacts everybody, regardless of whether or not you're a Catholic," then? Fark you, that's why.


bottsicus: Jesus...I just looked at Tim Thomas's FB page...it looks like a f*ckin Fark politics thread, only stupider...


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/seems like all Thomas has to do is shave his moustache more towards the middle

Jeez, that's kind of crazy...Isn't Mass. a fairly left wing state? At least the Canucks' goalie is only from Quebec.

change1211: fatalvenom: keylock71: ...And Tim Thomas is spouting off his political nonsense again. : /

Just keep stopping the pucks, Timmy.

First rate goalie with a third rate intellect...

robsul82: He posted about "standing with the Catholics and religious freedom" over Obama's birth control policy. Then he quoted "First They Came," not that he was in any way drawing a direct or indirect comparison between this and Nazi Germany. No sir, just that people should stand up even if they're not directly impacted. Why would he use that inflammatory content over just saying "this impacts everybody, regardless of whether or not you're a Catholic," then? Fark you, that's why.


bottsicus: Jesus...I just looked at Tim Thomas's FB page...it looks like a f*ckin Fark politics thread, only stupider...


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/seems like all Thomas has to do is shave his moustache more towards the middle

Jeez, that's kind of crazy...Isn't Mass. a fairly left wing state? At least the Canucks' goalie is only from Quebec.

Well, good goalies tend to be somewhat crazy. Timmay is a really good goalie and is also really crazy.

jekostas: change1211: fatalvenom: keylock71: ...And Tim Thomas is spouting off his political nonsense again. : /

Just keep stopping the pucks, Timmy.

First rate goalie with a third rate intellect...

robsul82: He posted about "standing with the Catholics and religious freedom" over Obama's birth control policy. Then he quoted "First They Came," not that he was in any way drawing a direct or indirect comparison between this and Nazi Germany. No sir, just that people should stand up even if they're not directly impacted. Why would he use that inflammatory content over just saying "this impacts everybody, regardless of whether or not you're a Catholic," then? Fark you, that's why.


bottsicus: Jesus...I just looked at Tim Thomas's FB page...it looks like a f*ckin Fark politics thread, only stupider...


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/seems like all Thomas has to do is shave his moustache more towards the middle

Jeez, that's kind of crazy...Isn't Mass. a fairly left wing state? At least the Canucks' goalie is only from Quebec.

Well, good goalies tend to be somewhat crazy. Timmay is a really good goalie and is also really crazy.

Batshiat crazy is more like it.

jekostas: change1211: fatalvenom: keylock71: ...And Tim Thomas is spouting off his political nonsense again. : /

Just keep stopping the pucks, Timmy.

First rate goalie with a third rate intellect...

robsul82: He posted about "standing with the Catholics and religious freedom" over Obama's birth control policy. Then he quoted "First They Came," not that he was in any way drawing a direct or indirect comparison between this and Nazi Germany. No sir, just that people should stand up even if they're not directly impacted. Why would he use that inflammatory content over just saying "this impacts everybody, regardless of whether or not you're a Catholic," then? Fark you, that's why.


bottsicus: Jesus...I just looked at Tim Thomas's FB page...it looks like a f*ckin Fark politics thread, only stupider...


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/seems like all Thomas has to do is shave his moustache more towards the middle

Jeez, that's kind of crazy...Isn't Mass. a fairly left wing state? At least the Canucks' goalie is only from Quebec.

Well, good goalies tend to be somewhat crazy. Timmay is a really good goalie and is also really crazy.

Don't you need to be in order to stand in front of pucks instead of trying to avoid getting hit by them?

change1211: jekostas: change1211: fatalvenom: keylock71: ...And Tim Thomas is spouting off his political nonsense again. : /

Just keep stopping the pucks, Timmy.

First rate goalie with a third rate intellect...

robsul82: He posted about "standing with the Catholics and religious freedom" over Obama's birth control policy. Then he quoted "First They Came," not that he was in any way drawing a direct or indirect comparison between this and Nazi Germany. No sir, just that people should stand up even if they're not directly impacted. Why would he use that inflammatory content over just saying "this impacts everybody, regardless of whether or not you're a Catholic," then? Fark you, that's why.


bottsicus: Jesus...I just looked at Tim Thomas's FB page...it looks like a f*ckin Fark politics thread, only stupider...


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/seems like all Thomas has to do is shave his moustache more towards the middle

Jeez, that's kind of crazy...Isn't Mass. a fairly left wing state? At least the Canucks' goalie is only from Quebec.

Well, good goalies tend to be somewhat crazy. Timmay is a really good goalie and is also really crazy.

Don't you need to be in order to stand in front of pucks instead of trying to avoid getting hit by them?

Don't defense stand in front of puck for chief too? Who is more weird?

change1211:

Don't you need to be in order to stand in front of pucks instead of trying to avoid getting hit by them?

I've always heard it's partially this, and partially that goaltenders need to keep sharp mental focus even through games where they aren't doing much for long stretches of time.

I mean, how many top goalies in the league don't come across as total headcases? People talk about Pekka Rinne being a really level-headed, even keeled kind of guy because it's so damned rare.

jekostas: change1211:

Don't you need to be in order to stand in front of pucks instead of trying to avoid getting hit by them?

I've always heard it's partially this, and partially that goaltenders need to keep sharp mental focus even through games where they aren't doing much for long stretches of time.

I mean, how many top goalies in the league don't come across as total headcases? People talk about Pekka Rinne being a really level-headed, even keeled kind of guy because it's so damned rare.

The funny thing is that, until his recent political awakening, I think most Bruins fans would have said the same about Thomas. He always seemed very mellow, and not at all crazy, in interviews.

bottsicus: The funny thing is that, until his recent political awakening, I think most Bruins fans would have said the same about Thomas. He always seemed very mellow, and not at all crazy, in interviews.


I heard that he was a Tea-Tard a little before the whole White House debacle happened. I never imagined he'd go all derpy in the media and on social media though.

As Keylock said before, "Stop pucks and STFU".

fatalvenom: bottsicus: The funny thing is that, until his recent political awakening, I think most Bruins fans would have said the same about Thomas. He always seemed very mellow, and not at all crazy, in interviews.


I heard that he was a Tea-Tard a little before the whole White House debacle happened. I never imagined he'd go all derpy in the media and on social media though.

As Keylock said before, "Stop pucks and STFU".

Agreed. His political musing won't stop me from watching the B's games but if his GAA and Save % start to balloon I won't be happy. If he keeps it up, I might feel the need to create an alt purely for the Politics tab. I'll use it to ferret out the real login of Tim Thomas just to tell him STFU&GBTW.

In other news, I'm excited to see how a Lindyless Sabres team plays tonight. I think it'll be an impromptu audition for all the out of work coaches hanging around the league because I think Ruff is one of the bigger boat anchors holding the Sabres back.

/Go B's!
//Krejci on the third line!