a man weighing an average 160 pounds would have to consume ten beers an hour to reach a blood alcohol content of .35

For me ten beers an hour would mean drinking on the toilet. I could probably do ten shots in an hour and still stand up. It's the weed that always knocks me on my ass.

Lionel Mandrake: Ferndale police arrest 2 for 'super drunk' driving; blood alcohol levels between .33 & .35

Pussies.

/busted with a .38
//not AT ALL proud
You got caught with a handgun, these people were driving under the influence of alcohol, your argument is invalid.

/wait for it...

This isn't new.

He's a superdrunk
Superdrunk
He's superdrinky.


/can't touch this

fusillade762: a man weighing an average 160 pounds would have to consume ten beers an hour to reach a blood alcohol content of .35

For me ten beers an hour would mean drinking on the toilet. I could probably do ten shots in an hour and still stand up. It's the weed that always knocks me on my ass.

I always figured you'd have to be drinking hard liquor to get that drunk that quick, as you said it's just a huge volume of liquid.

And a new extreme sport is born.

I think the only thing this guy needs to be operating is a bike.


/maybe

ZAZ: He has two prior convictions for OWI and his license has been suspended 31 times.

Sheer number of suspensions doesn't scare me. Number of suspensions is usually much greater than number of acts of dangerous driving. Say you get a DUI. You get an administrative suspension for the arrest then a second judicial suspension for the crime. Your probation runs out and you start driving again. Oops, didn't pay the reinstatement fee. That's another suspension for driving under suspension.

The game gets really fun when two states are involved. Live in state A. Get a DUI in state B. State B suspends you twice effective only in state B. State A, which owns your license, learns about the out of state suspensions and enters them on your record. Then state A learns about the out of state arrest and conviction, each of which is punished as if it had happened locally. That gives you two more, for a total of four suspensions from one act.

Government at its finest. I think a better solution for repeat drunk drivers would be tougher punishments and the aforementioned bureaucratic BS. Just pass out chemical castrations and be done with the the shenanigans. Drunk driving kills way too many people to be taken lightly, and it's a completely voluntary act. If you're stupid or stubborn enough to get several DUIs, there's no way I want you polluting the gene pool.

FTA: Fifty-year-old William Rhodes was stopped along Woodward for driving 10 mph under the speed limit.

Article doesn't mention what the posted limit was, but when is driving under the speed limit by itself a traffic violation? I suppose if it was a road with a posted 25mph limit, but what about a 45mph limit?

That's dope yo.

I find that having a BAC around .35% can help keep me alert and actually makes me a better driver than I am when sober.

Sometimes I get wasted, like really trashed and play Forza.

/not really.
//dance central on the other hand....

I like how the cops try to make it sound as bad as possible. "They should be in a coma, passed out, maybe dead! Dead!"

Then it's "Oh, the video of them? Well, yeah, they don't look all that drunk. They are functional. But trust me, they should be in a coma or dead!"

Yeah, these guys shouldn't be driving. That doesn't justify all the "OMG, the alcohol!" bullshiat.

According to a study done by Concordia University, a man weighing an average 160 pounds would have to consume ten beers an hour to reach a blood alcohol content of .35.

Yo! Thas whar ah lurnd ta coun too potatoe, to!!

MorganFreeman: Honest question: What's the difference between a drunk driving arrest and a felony drunk driving arrest?

Might be other ways of it being charged as a felony, but I met a guy who got a felony DUI because he hit a pedestrian.

MorganFreeman: Honest question: What's the difference between a drunk driving arrest and a felony drunk driving arrest?

15 beers?

uttertosh: According to a study done by Concordia University, a man weighing an average 160 pounds would have to consume ten beers an hour to reach a blood alcohol content of .35.

Yo! Thas whar ah lurnd ta coun too potatoe, to!!

Sorry, I mean... "Beers" Is that a standard beer unit? American pisswater? English bitter? Lo-carb? 12oz? 330ml? British Pint? Domestic? Export?

We desperately need a Unit of Standardized Official Beer

/U S.O.B.

That's impressive. I figured it was just a story of a typical aggravated DWI around .20-.25%.

Here is my problem with DUI laws, and please don't misconstrue this as condoning the operation of any heavy machinery while your ability is impaired by any intoxicant:

Modern drunk driving laws adhere to certain scientific criteria. In NYS, if your measurable BAC is .08%, you're breaking the law if you are operating a vehicle. Not a motor vehicle, the law doesn't discern, so the police don't discern. A bicycle will suffice, or a riding lawnmower, or a motorized wheelchair etc. The problem is the number. How many beers is .08%? "Well, that is subject to certain criteria that change from person to person," the lawmakers and scientists and even police will tell you. So, is it 1 beer? I don't like to drive after I've had even just 1 beer. That doesn't mean I'm intoxicated, it means that I don't know what .08% is. Test yourself on this. Ask yourself to quantify another aspect of life as a number. For example: What is your blood sugar level right now? Diabetics have the equipment to quantify this, but the vast majority of people can't even begin to say what that number might be, or even how to gauge what number it might be. How about your blood oxygenation level? It should be a high number, but is it? How do you know without the test equipment? Yet many people that are arguably sober get their lives ruined because 1 drink meant .08% for them. How can a state enforce laws when the population can't reliably tell if they've broken them? Ignorance is no excuse, for sure, and you shouldn't be driving if it is at all questionable, but I know 2 people (in my tiny town of 1500) that have had felonies charged against them for .08% (well, one was .09%) when they only had a single drink. I was a witness to both occasions. One was a mixed drink of some sort (it could have been a Long Island Iced Tea for all I know, but he only had one single drink and he normally drinks Jack and Coke) and the other was a swiftly chugged beer. Both of them lost their jobs and homes over the ordeal, and both are now convicted felons. One was pulled over for leaving the bar (say what you want, that was why he was pulled over), but the reason given, despite no tickets for the infraction, was his exhaust being loud. The other had a tail light out, but was also leaving the bar and was immediately pulled over. I'm not excusing it, but how do you know where the line is? I can't quantify it, and I would argue that not a single person on FARK could either.

My solution? I would have the state require establishments that offer alcohol to have a breathalyzer on hand, and I would argue that the state should fund the procurement so that there was no undue stress on the patrons or the owners of the establishment. If you don't test yourself, that's your problem and you should deal with the consequences. But to have a number thrown out that is absolutely impossible for a person to determine by themselves, that's absurdity, and that absurdity ruins lives on both sides of the argument (or ends them, as some cases might be.)

jaylectricity: "These people can function in a seemingly almost normal manner," said Lt. Bill Wilson with the Ferndale Police Department.

Then maybe we need to reassess what it means to be "impaired" behind the wheel.

That makes too much sense. A practicing alcoholic with years of experience may require a BAC of 0.10, 0.15, even more, simply in order to function, to avoid the DTs. He needs that BAC when he wakes up in the morning. Like any drug, you build up a tolerance after repeated and prolonged use. So a blanket level of 0.08, OMG he's drunk, applied everywhere to everybody, is the purest bullshiat you can find. So you just take your common-sensey self out the door, we're in bullshiat territory.

ZAZ: Sheer number of suspensions doesn't scare me. Number of suspensions is usually much greater than number of acts of dangerous driving.

You're right, he probably only had... I dunno, six or eight drunk driving violations... Nothing wrong there.

Do what now? Doesn't matter how you get to 31, the fact is HE HAD A NUMBER THAT COULD BE EASILY INFLATED TO 31.

ZAZ: New hotness is old and busted with a hot new name. "Super" drunk is 0.17% BAC. That is close to the average DUI arrest. It is close to what the legal limit was a few decades ago.

Yep its all an attack to try and get alcohol banned, when they lowered the limit the first time it was because they werent catching enough people since the "lets meet for dinner crowd" may have 2-3 drinks max in a 3 hour period and would only register .07-08 at the most. So now they decided to drop the rates until the criminalized enough of the people to try and show them how awful alcohol is and why it should be banned again.

Dont even get me started on why madd counts people who have taken cough syrup as alcohol related accidents......

The DUI laws need to be reverted back to the .12 doctors originally set it at, dropping it to its current levels and the fight to drop it lower is transparent.

uttertosh: uttertosh: According to a study done by Concordia University, a man weighing an average 160 pounds would have to consume ten beers an hour to reach a blood alcohol content of .35.

Yo! Thas whar ah lurnd ta coun too potatoe, to!!

Sorry, I mean... "Beers" Is that a standard beer unit? American pisswater? English bitter? Lo-carb? 12oz? 330ml? British Pint? Domestic? Export?

We desperately need a Unit of Standardized Official Beer

/U S.O.B.

For serious. A beer at home is going to be 12 oz. A pint at the bar will be 16, and if it's a brew pub, the alcohol content could be twice the standard American pisswater - 4 to 5 percent.

Regardless, the .08 standard is bullshiat, unless the driver is a moron.

Speaking of which: this country has an ongoing epidemic of stupid drivers who need to be weeded out. Drive tests should consist of strapping the snowflake into the seat of some hotrod, setting it down on an oval track littered with piles of cinder blocks, flaming monkeys and abandoned cars, and bolting the accelerator to the floor. If they survive until the gas tank runs empty, they get their drivers license.

Sorry, I'm in Massachusetts right now, and every drive across town nearly gives me an aneurysm.

Happy Hours: uttertosh: uttertosh: According to a study done by Concordia University, a man weighing an average 160 pounds would have to consume ten beers an hour to reach a blood alcohol content of .35.

Yo! Thas whar ah lurnd ta coun too potatoe, to!!

Sorry, I mean... "Beers" Is that a standard beer unit? American pisswater? English bitter? Lo-carb? 12oz? 330ml? British Pint? Domestic? Export?

We desperately need a Unit of Standardized Official Beer

/U S.O.B.

I checked a few online BAC calculators. The ones that just said "beer" as a unit gave results of 0.2 to 0.237 BAC for a 160 # male and 10 beers an hour.

The others required too many conversions like what you're asking.

Y'see? That must be based on the Soda-can-size-'Lite'-3.6% beer, stuff like coors mild, or bud ghey.

And to be that drunk, you basically have to be a non-stop beer recycling center the entire time.

Attempt to emulate this whilst in a Belgian bar. Hmmm.... Well, I do have a birthday coming up...

crozzo: jaylectricity: "These people can function in a seemingly almost normal manner," said Lt. Bill Wilson with the Ferndale Police Department.

Then maybe we need to reassess what it means to be "impaired" behind the wheel.

That makes too much sense. A practicing alcoholic with years of experience may require a BAC of 0.10, 0.15, even more, simply in order to function, to avoid the DTs. He needs that BAC when he wakes up in the morning. Like any drug, you build up a tolerance after repeated and prolonged use. So a blanket level of 0.08, OMG he's drunk, applied everywhere to everybody, is the purest bullshiat you can find. So you just take your common-sensey self out the door, we're in bullshiat territory.

I remember, albeit barely, those days. I was self medicating for my insomnia during most of the 2000s. Got to the point where I was putting Amaretto in my coffee in the morning, then, I quit putting any coffee in my coffee cup. I was drinking so heavily in 2008, I was putting away a pint of vodka and a case of Bud Ice (or 12 of those 24oz cans if they were 2 for $2) every day, just to get to sleep at night.

After getting my Ambien, I cut back to drinking with the wife to maybe 3 or 4 times a year. I estimate that I carried at least a .12 at any one point in time between '02 and Nov 2008. I DO NOT miss those days.

peasants_are_revolting: Drive tests should consist of strapping the snowflake into the seat of some hotrod, setting it down on an oval track littered with piles of cinder blocks, flaming monkeys and abandoned cars, and bolting the accelerator to the floor. If they survive until the gas tank runs empty, they get their drivers license.

Sorry, I'm in Massachusetts right now, and every drive across town nearly gives me an aneurysm.

WOW!!! That's the best tv syndication idea since Honkbag! :-D

/HONKBAAAAAG!!!!

MorganFreeman: Honest question: What's the difference between a drunk driving arrest and a felony drunk driving arrest?

I was typing while you posted, but in both cases that I am citing in my previous post it was simply because the town cops charge you with felonies for DUI. The State Troopers will charge you with misdemeanors, and rarely felonies, but the town cops always charge you with the highest crime they think they can get to stick. It's a poor area and many people have to rely on our crappy public defenders, so most of the charges stick because the charged have no recourse. They were guilty of the crime they were charged with, though there is gray area in the definitions of the crimes. Certainly, the one drinking the mixie should have been charged with a misdemeanor, though the other had been charged with DUI twice when he was 18 (9 years ago almost to the day of his felony arrest), so he fit the criteria of the intent of the law.

For what it's worth, our town cops are worthless. They break the laws on a regular basis (speeding without their lights on, entrapment, etc.), but they are the police in town so there isn't much we can do about it. They don't arrest people who aren't breaking the law (though they'll pull them over if they think anything might possibly be askew, regardless of reason), and the people that get arrested don't fight the arrest on procedural grounds because the lawyers representing them don't care enough to follow that path. The lawyers will get them small sentences, but losing your license is more punishment than I think some deserve, and felony DUI means you lose your license.

ravenaries: crozzo: jaylectricity: "These people can function in a seemingly almost normal manner," said Lt. Bill Wilson with the Ferndale Police Department.

Then maybe we need to reassess what it means to be "impaired" behind the wheel.

That makes too much sense. A practicing alcoholic with years of experience may require a BAC of 0.10, 0.15, even more, simply in order to function, to avoid the DTs. He needs that BAC when he wakes up in the morning. Like any drug, you build up a tolerance after repeated and prolonged use. So a blanket level of 0.08, OMG he's drunk, applied everywhere to everybody, is the purest bullshiat you can find. So you just take your common-sensey self out the door, we're in bullshiat territory.

I remember, albeit barely, those days. I was self medicating for my insomnia during most of the 2000s. Got to the point where I was putting Amaretto in my coffee in the morning, then, I quit putting any coffee in my coffee cup. I was drinking so heavily in 2008, I was putting away a pint of vodka and a case of Bud Ice (or 12 of those 24oz cans if they were 2 for $2) every day, just to get to sleep at night.

After getting my Ambien, I cut back to drinking with the wife to maybe 3 or 4 times a year. I estimate that I carried at least a .12 at any one point in time between '02 and Nov 2008. I DO NOT miss those days.

Never think of weed?

They invented super alcohol and no one told me? You guys farking suck.

uttertosh: Never think of weed?

Most decent wage/salary places will fire you over weed. I don't know many that won't work with a functioning alcoholic. Don't get me started on that, though.

Al!: Here is my problem with DUI laws, and please don't misconstrue this as condoning the operation of any heavy machinery while your ability is impaired by any intoxicant:

Modern drunk driving laws adhere to certain scientific criteria. In NYS, if your measurable BAC is .08%, you're breaking the law if you are operating a vehicle. Not a motor vehicle, the law doesn't discern, so the police don't discern. A bicycle will suffice, or a riding lawnmower, or a motorized wheelchair etc. The problem is the number. How many beers is .08%? "Well, that is subject to certain criteria that change from person to person," the lawmakers and scientists and even police will tell you. So, is it 1 beer? I don't like to drive after I've had even just 1 beer. That doesn't mean I'm intoxicated, it means that I don't know what .08% is. Test yourself on this. Ask yourself to quantify another aspect of life as a number. For example: What is your blood sugar level right now? Diabetics have the equipment to quantify this, but the vast majority of people can't even begin to say what that number might be, or even how to gauge what number it might be. How about your blood oxygenation level? It should be a high number, but is it? How do you know without the test equipment? Yet many people that are arguably sober get their lives ruined because 1 drink meant .08% for them. How can a state enforce laws when the population can't reliably tell if they've broken them? Ignorance is no excuse, for sure, and you shouldn't be driving if it is at all questionable, but I know 2 people (in my tiny town of 1500) that have had felonies charged against them for .08% (well, one was .09%) when they only had a single drink. I was a witness to both occasions. One was a mixed drink of some sort (it could have been a Long Island Iced Tea for all I know, but he only had one single drink and he normally drinks Jack and Coke) and the other was a swiftly chugged beer. Both of them lost their jobs and ho ...

.08 after one drink? Either it was straight gasoline or your friend is 74 lbs and hasn't eaten in a month. Sounds like poor calibration to me.

Was it this guy driving?