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(Talking Points Memo)   Mitt Romney blasts the ruling overturning Proposition 8. Not because of the social issues at stake, but because he wasted all that money getting it passed in the first place   (livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 311
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2012-02-07 04:42:39 PM
FTFA: "Today, unelected judges cast aside the will of the people of California who voted to protect traditional marriage," Romney said.

Good thing those elected judges on the Supreme Court will get to decide on the issue!!
 
2012-02-07 04:49:59 PM
Romney's lucky the majority doesn't get to vote on what to do with his money.
 
2012-02-07 05:05:51 PM
Equal protection is for Republicans only, suckaz
 
2012-02-07 05:15:40 PM
Do we want a president who invests so poorly?
 
2012-02-07 05:16:55 PM

James!: Do we want a president who invests so poorly?


I bet he buys his magic shorts retail, too
 
2012-02-07 05:20:17 PM
I read it this way: "I believe marriage is between a man and a woman and, a president..."

The I realized it's not that far fetched.

James!: Do we want a president who invests so poorly?


Your snark is palpable. And delicious.
 
2012-02-07 05:21:01 PM
...as president, I will protect traditional marriage and appoint judges who interpret the Constitution as it is written and not according to their own politics and prejudices.

So....he'd appoint judges that will make it harder for him to "protect traditional marriage"?
 
2012-02-07 05:21:41 PM
I will protect traditional marriage and appoint judges who interpret the Constitution as it is written

Funny, I don't remember marriage being covered in the Constitution.

Did I miss it?
 
2012-02-07 05:23:50 PM
"Today, unelected judges cast aside the will of the people of California Alabama who voted to protect traditional marriage society," Romney Wallace said.
 
2012-02-07 05:25:19 PM
I will ... appoint judges who interpret the Constitution as it is written

Which is why of course the court cited the Equal Protection Clause as their grounds to turn it over.
 
2012-02-07 05:25:27 PM
"Today, unelected judges cast aside the will of the people of California who voted to protect traditional marriage," Romney said.

Okay, see, people who say this make me f*cking crazy. The will of the people DOESN'T MATTER if that will is UNCONSTITUTIONAL, you stupid f*cking pandering Republican piece of dog shiat.

Goddammitsomuch I'm sick of this crap.
 
2012-02-07 05:28:46 PM
So they'll be unelected judges who cast aside the will of the people - but they'll be your unelected judges who cast aside the will of the people.

"Today, unelected judges cast aside the will of the people of California who voted to protect traditional marriage," Romney said. "This decision does not end this fight, and I expect it to go to the Supreme Court. That prospect underscores the vital importance of this election and the movement to preserve our values. I believe marriage is between a man and a woman and, as president, I will protect traditional marriage and appoint judges who interpret the Constitution as it is written and not according to their own politics and prejudices."

Translation: Today, the courts disagreed with me and my church and other people who think just like me. I'm going to make it sound like these people - and I - are going to be responsible for "fighting" that, when in actuality, it'll happen without any minding on my part. I'm running for office - so I'm going to sound like I think you who agree with me are morally superior, and you want to vote for me because I'm morally superior. Now let's spit out the standard talking point about this, and I promise to misuse the justice system unmercifully to appoint judges who will rule in my favor (and in the favor of my backers and friends) at my whim - which you are stupid enough to think is your whim, too.
 
2012-02-07 05:31:11 PM

James!: Do we want a president who invests so poorly?


1.bp.blogspot.com
He invested... poorly.
 
2012-02-07 05:35:14 PM
i.imgur.com

What unelected Justices overturning the will of the people might look like:
 
2012-02-07 05:35:58 PM

Marcus Aurelius: I will protect traditional marriage and appoint judges who interpret the Constitution as it is written

Funny, I don't remember marriage being covered in the Constitution.

Did I miss it?


It is in his church's constitution.
 
2012-02-07 05:36:31 PM

James!: Do we want a president who invests so poorly?


(ohsnap.jpg)
 
2012-02-07 05:36:46 PM
"Today, unelected judges cast aside the will of the people of California who voted to protect traditional marriage," Romney said. "I believe marriage is between a man and a woman, and another woman, and another woman, and as many more women as the one man can get. Oh, shiat. I think I just came in my magic underwear."
 
2012-02-07 05:37:35 PM

Elandriel: FTFA: "Today, unelected judges cast aside the will of the people of California who voted to protect traditional marriage," Romney said.

Good thing those elected judges on the Supreme Court will get to decide on the issue!!


The ensuing flip flop will make John Kerry look like.... umm.. someone who absolutely never flip flops. Sorry, I'm no Dennis Miller over here.
 
2012-02-07 05:52:03 PM
Every time you see somebody religious claim that they're defending 'traditional marriage', consider the fact that it means they think of women as property.

Then tell them to fark off.
 
2012-02-07 05:54:43 PM

Somacandra: [i.imgur.com image 576x447]

What unelected Justices overturning the will of the people might look like:


Nicely played.
 
2012-02-07 05:55:15 PM
"Today, unelected judges cast aside the will of the people of California who voted to protect traditional marriage," Romney said

And there's not a gotdamn thing you can do about it either.

Romney is just pandering to the religious right on this issue tho. I don't think he really cares about the sanctity of marriage any more than any OTHER Republican candidate does.
 
2012-02-07 05:55:33 PM
innertubes.files.wordpress.com

Traditional marriage, as defined by the Bible.
 
2012-02-07 05:56:38 PM

nekom: The ensuing flip flop will make John Kerry look like.... umm.. someone who absolutely never flip flops. Sorry, I'm no Dennis Miller over here.


Here, let me take a crack at it....

"John Kerry may have flip-flopped, but compared to him Mitt Romney is a Flying Wallenda after a three-week heroin binge on a tightrope spanning the Grand Canyon in the middle of August."

How was that?
 
2012-02-07 05:57:55 PM
Rival Newt Gingrich has gone even farther by pledging to abolish the Ninth Circuit entirely.

oh - and Gingrich has no right at all to talk about the sanctity of marriage. if he DOES get up on a stage somewhere and start talking about 'protecting marriage' he should be pelted with rotten fruit and little cocktail weiners until he's forced to abandon the microphone and unleash Callistia on the crowd.
 
2012-02-07 06:02:16 PM

nekom: Elandriel: FTFA: "Today, unelected judges cast aside the will of the people of California who voted to protect traditional marriage," Romney said.

Good thing those elected judges on the Supreme Court will get to decide on the issue!!

The ensuing flip flop will make John Kerry look like.... umm.. someone who absolutely never flip flops. Sorry, I'm no Dennis Miller over here.like Leonidas standing down Xerxes at Thermopylae.


/Got your back, bro.
 
2012-02-07 06:04:26 PM
Nobody cares what the fk you say, Mittens...you'll just say something different tomorrow if it serves you, you flip-flopping sack of shiat.
 
2012-02-07 06:05:42 PM
If Romney is elected, will 10% of his taxpayer funded salary go directly to the LDS?
 
2012-02-07 06:07:06 PM

propasaurus: If Romney is elected, will 10% of his taxpayer funded salary go directly to the LDS?


I suspect Romney cheats his church out of money just as easily as he cheats at paying taxes.
 
2012-02-07 06:08:28 PM
If my sole redeeming feature as a human was "less of an asshole than Newt Gingrich" I think I'd just kill myself mittens.
 
2012-02-07 06:11:04 PM
I posted this in the other Prop 8 thread today, but I think I'll cut-and-paste it here since it strikes at an issue near and dear to Mittens' heart. I have a proposal which I would think any Prop 8 supporter would find to be legally permissible, since it relies on their own arguments. My proposal is this: I hereby propose an amendment to the California Constitution invalidating Mormon marriages in this state.

As polygamists for decades (even though they no longer engage in polygamy and now want to be treated as "normal" people), Mormons historically have shown a complete disregard for the traditional marriage of one man and one woman. Plus, I gotta say--and I hope this doesn't sound bigoted--Mormons as a group make me uncomfortable, and I don't share their values or approve of their lifestyle choices. For example, they're always pumping out housefuls of kids (an environmentally irresponsible practice), riding around on bikes while wearing white dress shirts and black ties and knocking on my door to disturb me while I'm relaxing at home, all for the purpose of trying to push a copy of the Book of Mormon on me, wearing funny but unAmerican sacred underwear, never drinking coffee or booze like normal Americans do, posthumously baptizing Holocaust victims as Mormons against their descendants' will, etc. These are not traditional American values, and I do not approve of these people profaning my traditional marriage by claiming to be married like normal people. Not to mention that these Mormons are always pushing their Mormon agenda on the rest of us and trying to recruit others--including even impressionable young children, shamefully enough--to share their Mormon lifestyle choice.

Of course, as the biggest backers of Prop 8 in California, Mormons have signaled to the world that it's acceptable for me to openly advocate discrimination against groups who don't share my personal values and beliefs, and whose lifestyles I find objectionable or shameful. Even the most prominent Mormon in America, Mitt Romney, obviously agrees with this. Given their historical disregard for traditional marriage, I feel this is a cause we should all get behind. I mean, what if our schools were required to teach kids that Mormons used engage in polygamy--and that in fact some offshoot Mormon groups still do engage in polygamy? Do we want our schools teaching our kids that it's OK or "normal" to have multiple spouses? If we legitimize Mormon marriages, then wouldn't other non-Mormon churches--churches that reject Mormonism and believe it to be contrary to the teachings of their own religion--be forced to perform Mormon-on-Mormon (or Mormon-on-Mormon-on-Mormon?) two-person or polygamous marriage ceremonies, out of fear that they could be sued if they refuse to do so (just as some Mormons claimed that their church would be forced to perform gay marriages if same-sex marriage were legalized)?

Protect traditional marriage--ban Mormon-on-Mormon marriage. Of course, this doesn't discriminate against Mormons in any way, because like all other heterosexuals, they still will have the right to marry anybody they want, just as long as it's not another Mormon. If they really want to live with another Mormon, of course, they can live in sin as domestic partners--just don't confuse that sort of thing with traditional marriage.
 
2012-02-07 06:11:08 PM
"Today, unelected judges cast aside the will of the people of California who voted to protect traditional marriage," Romney said.

I wish someone would have the balls to ask him about judges removing interracial marriage laws too? Are they against that being removed because it was also done by "unelected judges"?

So according to him states should be able to make interracial marriage laws again?
 
2012-02-07 06:11:13 PM
as an aside, I really don't get the whole 'sanctity of marriage' thing that our GOP friends here like to rant about. Look how many of the Republican leadership handle marriage - quite a lot of republican leaders (and pundits) are on their second and even third marriages. they've slept around, made a mockery of traditional morality, even had homosexual affairs with pages. The Republican party doesn't live a lifestyle of morality and religious values and its all very well documented.

I guess what i'm saying is that nobody likes a hypocrite. And the GOP has a LOT of hypocritical bastards on their payroll. so the 'sanctity of marriage' thing isn't gonna fly with the voters.
 
2012-02-07 06:12:28 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: "Today, unelected judges cast aside the will of the people of California who voted to protect traditional marriage," Romney said. "I believe marriage is between a man and a woman, and another woman, and another woman, and as many more women as the one man can get. Oh, shiat. I think I just came in my magic underwear."


Came for Polygamy. Staying to say I think Mormons have abused the right to marry. I think a suspension is due.
 
2012-02-07 06:12:41 PM
The majority of Americans support gay marriage. This will only further alienate Romney in the general campaign. So, I approve of his comments today.
 
2012-02-07 06:13:03 PM
www.vinegeek.com

buh-bye
 
2012-02-07 06:13:38 PM
I will protect traditional marriage and appoint judges who interpret the Constitution as it is written and not according to their own politics and prejudices."

I guess I missed the part in the constitution that say marriage is between a man and a woman. Also I missed the part of the constitution where it say the federal government defines marriage.
 
2012-02-07 06:13:49 PM

Cyberluddite: I posted this in the other Prop 8 thread today, but I think I'll cut-and-paste it here since it strikes at an issue near and dear to Mittens' heart. I have a proposal which I would think any Prop 8 supporter would find to be legally permissible, since it relies on their own arguments. My proposal is this: I hereby propose an amendment to the California Constitution invalidating Mormon marriages in this state.

As polygamists for decades (even though they no longer engage in polygamy and now want to be treated as "normal" people), Mormons historically have shown a complete disregard for the traditional marriage of one man and one woman. Plus, I gotta say--and I hope this doesn't sound bigoted--Mormons as a group make me uncomfortable, and I don't share their values or approve of their lifestyle choices. For example, they're always pumping out housefuls of kids (an environmentally irresponsible practice), riding around on bikes while wearing white dress shirts and black ties and knocking on my door to disturb me while I'm relaxing at home, all for the purpose of trying to push a copy of the Book of Mormon on me, wearing funny but unAmerican sacred underwear, never drinking coffee or booze like normal Americans do, posthumously baptizing Holocaust victims as Mormons against their descendants' will, etc. These are not traditional American values, and I do not approve of these people profaning my traditional marriage by claiming to be married like normal people. Not to mention that these Mormons are always pushing their Mormon agenda on the rest of us and trying to recruit others--including even impressionable young children, shamefully enough--to share their Mormon lifestyle choice.

Of course, as the biggest backers of Prop 8 in California, Mormons have signaled to the world that it's acceptable for me to openly advocate discrimination against groups who don't share my personal values and beliefs, and whose lifestyles I find objectionable or shameful. Even the most p ...


I am going to shamelessly yoink that, modify it, and use it to vex the Baptists. Just lettin' you know.
 
2012-02-07 06:15:26 PM

Weaver95: propasaurus: If Romney is elected, will 10% of his taxpayer funded salary go directly to the LDS?

I suspect Romney cheats his church out of money just as easily as he cheats at paying taxes.


I wonder if that's why he's so hesitant to release his returns. He knows that a platoon of LDS lawyers and accountants will be poring over it, looking to get their cut.
 
2012-02-07 06:15:42 PM

Tigger: If my sole redeeming feature as a human was "less of an asshole than Newt Gingrich" I think I'd just kill myself mittens.


I've redefined a decent person as one who is less of an asshole than Newt Gingrich. Since then, I've met nothing but decent people everywhere I go.
 
2012-02-07 06:15:47 PM

propasaurus: If Romney is elected, will 10% of his taxpayer funded salary go directly to the LDS?


If not, it would be a serious and very clear breach of his religious vows--which he appears to take seriously--so I think we all know the answer to that.
 
2012-02-07 06:16:21 PM
Every time I hear the phrase, "unelected judges," it makes me a little stabby.
 
2012-02-07 06:17:14 PM
I hate it when people talk about courts overturning "the will of the people". The courts aren't there to do the will of the people. They're there to make sure people have the rights they're entitled to. If it were the will of the will of the people to reinstitute slavery, then courts damn well better overturn that.

Idiots.
 
2012-02-07 06:17:41 PM

Tigger: If my sole redeeming feature as a human was "less of an asshole than Newt Gingrich" I think I'd just kill myself mittens.


He's not less of an asshole than Gingrich; he's just a different shade of brown.
 
2012-02-07 06:17:47 PM

Fish in a Barrel: Every time I hear the phrase, "unelected judges," it makes me a little stabby.


that's just the daily talking point. I don't think the Republicans actually put any thought into it.
 
2012-02-07 06:18:31 PM
Romney is not a social moderate like some people think. He is a far right religious nut that just pretended he was not so he could be elected in Mass.

He believe abortions should be treated like murder, including some forms of contraception like the pill.

He is staunch anti-gay.
 
2012-02-07 06:19:08 PM
I love how the arguments are exactly the same as those blasting interracial marriage back in the day.

//Didn't Mittens say he cried when the Mormon church started to allow blacks? For some reason, I doubt it was out of joy.
 
2012-02-07 06:20:36 PM
"Today, unelected judges cast aside the will of the people of California who voted to protect traditional marriage,"


I will protect traditional marriage and appoint judges


IOKIYAR

Shut the fark up, you two-faced assclown.
 
2012-02-07 06:20:36 PM

Ambivalence: I hate it when people talk about courts overturning "the will of the people". The courts aren't there to do the will of the people. They're there to make sure people have the rights they're entitled to. If it were the will of the will of the people to reinstitute slavery, then courts damn well better overturn that.

Idiots.


it goes like this:

if the court rules against your ideology, then it's all 'activist judges' and 'unelected judges' and 'will of the people'.

if the court rules in favor of your ideology, then its all 'constitutional mandate' and 'the law is absolute'.

the rest is boilerplate insults and ad hominem attacks.
 
2012-02-07 06:21:09 PM

meat0918: //Didn't Mittens say he cried when the Mormon church started to allow blacks?


i missed that one. Citation would be hilarious.
 
2012-02-07 06:21:11 PM

Corvus: Romney is not a social moderate like some people think. He is a far right religious nut that just pretended he was not so he could be elected in Mass.

He believe abortions should be treated like murder, including some forms of contraception like the pill.

He is staunch anti-gay.


He's a Prosperity Gospel believer. I'd wager most Mormons are these days.

Also he's after intertwining government and religion so that you can make a shiat load of money while telling people it's "God's Will and Blessing".
 
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