6. Independence Day

Well if you wanna get technical, the movie would've been over in 5 minutes. A mothership 1/4 the size of the moon would've seriously farked with earth's gravity. Plus Will Smif's wife would've died immediately in the tunnel (you can't outrun a giant fireball, and you sure as hell can't breathe as a giant fireball passes 5 feet from you).

And to keep going on ID4, here's A "Rocket Scientist's" Reaction to ID4 (pops).

It's a pretty funny read. My favorite so far:

By definition, each of the saucers started at Earth's escape velocity, 7 miles per second, and had to dump that kinetic energy by aerobraking or some sort of retroreactive system on the leading edge. The descent was clearly under control, so 36 times 1.1 x 1022 calories, i.e. 400 million megatons (Mt) would have been smoothly released into our biosphere in less than an hour. That's about four times as great as the K-T Event 65 megayears ago which wiped out the dinosaurs and most of everything else.

Pawn takes the King: YAY!! DEATH!

I disagree with the Wall-E mention, b/c they still have the ship that kept them all alive in the first place.

They're fatasses in a desert, but they have an awesome RV.

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Just saw that for the first time in what must be 30-35 years. Great, Charlton Heston has told everyone that Soylent Green is people in hopes that the Soylent Corp. will discontinue the practice. But the ocean's plankton is still dying, the world is still barren of crops, and there are 9M people in NYC alone. What the fark are they going to eat if Soylent Corp. goes under?

The Matrix never did make sense to me, even before the sequels when it really started to not make sense. Let's gleefully mow down dozens of innocent people in order to destroy the computer system which is the only thing keeping the rest of humanity alive. Hey, the rest of humanity, you're free! Now cram yourselves into this shiatty Zion place and eat gruel. Oh and there's a rave at 10:00. And why didn't the machines just use cows or whales or something easier to control to get their energy? Eh.

And of course The Terminator never made any sense since Reese said that the terminator went into the time displacement thing before he did, meaning history would be instantly changed and Reese wouldn't even have a chance to go in after it.

As for ID4, I don't know anything about physics but I did date a stripper and the scene where Will Smith's girlfriend wakes up with him and goes to the club to pick up her check took me completely out of the movie. A 14 mile long mother ship getting vaporized by one nuke? Sure. An alien computer getting hacked with a Macbook from 1996? Absolutely. But no stripper wakes up before noon and they don't get paid with paychecks. Suspension of disbelief only goes so far.

Note: After we were already most of the way through working on this, we discovered this TVTropes Page, which overlaps a fair bit with what we're talking about here. When we were finishing up, we also found a couple Cracked.com articles that overlap slightly with this list. Check it out, for further reading. Thanks also to Annalee and Cyriaque for the suggestions!

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jaylectricity: Note: After we were already most of the way through working on this, we discovered this TVTropes Page, which overlaps a fair bit with what we're talking about here. When we were finishing up, we also found a couple Cracked.com articles that overlap slightly with this list. Check it out, for further reading. Thanks also to Annalee and Cyriaque for the suggestions!

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Just saw that for the first time in what must be 30-35 years. Great, Charlton Heston has told everyone that Soylent Green is people in hopes that the Soylent Corp. will discontinue the practice. But the ocean's plankton is still dying, the world is still barren of crops, and there are 9M people in NYC alone. What the fark are they going to eat if Soylent Corp. goes under?

Simple: they just cut out the middle man

Mugato: The Matrix never did make sense to me, even before the sequels when it really started to not make sense. Let's gleefully mow down dozens of innocent people in order to destroy the computer system which is the only thing keeping the rest of humanity alive. Hey, the rest of humanity, you're free! Now cram yourselves into this shiatty Zion place and eat gruel. Oh and there's a rave at 10:00. And why didn't the machines just use cows or whales or something easier to control to get their energy? Eh.

And of course The Terminator never made any sense since Reese said that the terminator went into the time displacement thing before he did, meaning history would be instantly changed and Reese wouldn't even have a chance to go in after it.

As for ID4, I don't know anything about physics but I did date a stripper and the scene where Will Smith's girlfriend wakes up with him and goes to the club to pick up her check took me completely out of the movie. A 14 mile long mother ship getting vaporized by one nuke? Sure. An alien computer getting hacked with a Macbook from 1996? Absolutely. But no stripper wakes up before noon and they don't get paid with paychecks. Suspension of disbelief only goes so far.

The unbelievable part that took me out of your post was you dating the Stripper. :)


But let's look over the the list, shall we?
10. Star Wars: Return of the Jedi.
Almost every time this is pointed out, they print a panel from a Star Wars Tales story about an old Storm Trooper who is telling the story at a bar. There is a splash page where the Storm trooper explains how he had the last laugh. Until a young kid at the bar pointed out that the most of the Death Star was disintegrated in the blast and if there were any large chunks, the rebel fleet blew them up. Keep in mind, the explosions in Star Wars rarely left chunks.

That and it's Science FANTASY. Not science fiction. It has giant space slugs that live in asteroids.

9. DollhouseDidn't see it.
8. X3: X-Men United
I thought the movie was entertaining, but no where near as good as the first two. But the biggest snafu is that Singer set it the mutant things as a "Gay rights" metaphor (Kirby and Lee set it up as a civil rights issue) As a result, the whole thing doesn't work because it's seems like the message is "if society doesn't like you, it has a responsibility to cure you.)
7. Almost every Doctor Who story ever Absolute fail. The Doctor almost always reverses the problems that are started.It's a (You Understood) thing. Unless Davies is writing him.
6. Independence Day Everyone that says says " The size of the ships would destroy the earth" It's not the ship size, it's the mass. And the ships were hollow. When a major plot point is using a mac to put a virus in, you are aren't really aiming for reality.
5.Wall-E They still had the ship to live from, while they were replanting the earth. And the credits DO count as part of the plot.
4. Star Trek (2009) It's a world with Replicators, force fields and Tranporters. I'm sure they could have done' something rather quickly.
3. The Matrix Trilogy The first movie was great: It was the Jesus story told violently.The second two movies just mad a mess out of everything.
2. The Terminator In the original Terminator, Skynet only had one shot at time travel before the Humans won the fight. The problem comes in the sequels, where many more got through.
Avatar I think that the "response" is actually part of the sequel plans. It maybe Interesting to see the responses. But the big problem is this: Would humans still act this way in the future?

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All they had to do was to get a rope and pull the gold towards themselves. It was a lame ending to a rather enjoyable little film.

The giant space drill itself also fell into the ocean, in the exact same spot where it was just drilling. Shouldn't this generate some kind of tsunami that would wipe out everything in the coastal areas?

not it didnt you farktard
the earth would have rotated some before it hit
so there is no way that it would have hit the exact spot
LOL

tards

Dollhouse doesn't really belong on this list, but I will take any excuse I can get to talk about it.

Darth_Lukecash: That and it's Science FANTASY. Not science fiction. It has giant space slugs that live in asteroids.

Right? Debating the realism - particularly the scientific realism - of Star Wars is like debating the... uh... I dunno. It's just stupid, that's all!

you know
in re all of the matrix movies

being able to get energy from humans is so retarded, that the universe would collapse killing everything

namatad: The giant space drill itself also fell into the ocean, in the exact same spot where it was just drilling. Shouldn't this generate some kind of tsunami that would wipe out everything in the coastal areas?

not it didnt you farktard
the earth would have rotated some before it hit
so there is no way that it would have hit the exact spot
LOL

tards

Your comment seems kinda hatey, but anyway, in order to drill in one spot the ship (and thus the drill) would be matching the rotation of the earth. So when it's cut it would fall in the same spot.

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: So I'm the only one that thought Friends?

"What are you assholes doing in apartments that you obviously can't afford?"

"Five obnoxious douchebags were gunned down today while sipping lattes...."

Barfmaker: Your comment seems kinda hatey, but anyway, in order to drill in one spot the ship (and thus the drill) would be matching the rotation of the earth. So when it's cut it would fall in the same spot.

cute but so false it isnt even funny
the drill and ship were clearly connected by the magic chain.
the SHIP and possibly the drill head, we in constant flight.
they were not stable, they were moving at all times to STAY in orbit over the same spot

we know that the ship was NOT in geosynchronous orbit.
the curvature of the earth, viewed from the ship, argued that the ship was much closer than the required 26 thousand miles.

therefore when the drill head was detached from the ship and damaged. the falling drill head was in freefall. it was not in powered flight doing station keeping over one spot

so it would have missed

unless you are arguing that the drill head was CLOSE to the surface, which would have made the drift small ...

Mugato: DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: So I'm the only one that thought Friends?

"What are you assholes doing in apartments that you obviously can't afford?"

"Five obnoxious douchebags were gunned down today while sipping lattes...."

after being evicted ....

on the other hand ... rent control in NYC is pretty farked up
do we know HOW they got the apartments?
the dicks got theirs from one other dads
the slots got theirs from a parent or sugar daddy ...

SURE, I can believe this


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seriously, no way his rotations would be that erratic and poorly grouped. he's superman, for christ's sake.

namatad: therefore when the drill head was detached from the ship and damaged. the falling drill head was in freefall. it was not in powered flight doing station keeping over one spot

Yeah but it's already got that relative momentum because its been matching the rotation of the earth. It only appears to be moving if you're viewing it from a fixed point not on the earth, as far as the planet is concerned it's not moving.

So the only thing that could affect that would be wind, and it would take a lot of wind to affect something that heavy in that short amount of time.

A good example is a helium balloon, on a windless day it goes straight up, the rotation of the planet doesn't make it go west.

Barfmaker: namatad: therefore when the drill head was detached from the ship and damaged. the falling drill head was in freefall. it was not in powered flight doing station keeping over one spot

Yeah but it's already got that relative momentum because its been matching the rotation of the earth. It only appears to be moving if you're viewing it from a fixed point not on the earth, as far as the planet is concerned it's not moving.

So the only thing that could affect that would be wind, and it would take a lot of wind to affect something that heavy in that short amount of time.

A good example is a helium balloon, on a windless day it goes straight up, the rotation of the planet doesn't make it go west.

hahaha
no

in order to station keep, it needs to provide constant trust to stay in the same place ...
this is not momemtum

Gigli - Everyone in the world commits suicide.

No "Community"?

Diogenes Teufelsdrockh: Coelacanth: 1. Avatar According to Cameron, Pandora is well aware of the Human menace and is considering means of retaliation from a killer virus on up. Also Pandora is mobile (that's why there's so much unobtainium floating around, that's part of Pandora's propulsion system). It could just move to another star system or come into ours and kick our ass.

Wait...Pandora is Mogo?

Or that one planet from the Star Wars Expanded Universe: Zonama Sekot ?

Big fail on Wall-E... As the movie ends (and before the credits), the final shot pulls away from the ship, then the robots, and finally past fields full of those plants.

namatad: in order to station keep, it needs to provide constant trust to stay in the same place ...
this is not momemtum

Something something Newton's first law.

Jambalaya James: Have you psuedo nerds not heard of Lagrange points?

Yeah but I'm not sure I see how that really applies here and it's really gone past the point where I want to brain on it anymore.