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doglover
2012-02-07 04:11:52 PM
I don't see the issue either.
It's called a school bus ya cheap bastards! You're supposed to have one available or the kids can walk.
SecretAgentWoman
2012-02-07 04:13:37 PM
My sister was threatened with jail for the same thing, and she chose to give her son to his dad instead. He made it to school on time then.
/played WoW until 3am and then blamed it on her 6 year old son who "wouldn't get up" in the morning...right
namegoeshere
2012-02-07 04:22:51 PM
As a parent who has gotten The Late Letter (dripping with strongly worded condemnation) in the past, I am horrified by this story. Of course, the letter showed up at my house after the 9th tardy, not the 150th.
We have tweaked our morning routine, and my snowflakes have zero tardies so far this year. So yeay us.
(And yeah, it was always the annoying sliding-into-the-seat-as-the-bell-was-ringing late. So much so that there were days where the kid in the classroom closest to the door would be on time, and the one two hallways away would be late.)
pisceandreamer
2012-02-07 04:32:07 PM
doglover
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I don't see the issue either.
It's called a school bus ya cheap bastards! You're supposed to have one available or the kids can walk.
They live about a 1/2 mile from the school. The father was on the news last night, whining about, "Oh, well, you know, it's 3 kids" etc, etc. If you have 3 kids, you should have the whole "get them the fark out of the house on time" thing down by now.
Bathia_Mapes
2012-02-07 04:36:57 PM
pisceandreamer
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doglover: I don't see the issue either.
It's called a school bus ya cheap bastards! You're supposed to have one available or the kids can walk.
They live about a 1/2 mile from the school. The father was on the news last night, whining about, "Oh, well, you know, it's 3 kids" etc, etc. If you have 3 kids, you should have the whole "get them the fark out of the house on time" thing down by now.
Also, the parents are setting a bad example by letting their children be chronically late to school. Makes me wonder how often the parents are late for work.
Chronic lateness is also one of the top reasons given when people are fired. It's right up there with frequent absenteeism.
SlothB77
2012-02-07 04:41:45 PM
He says most of those late arrivals have been only a few minutes.
there is a shiatload of traffic around here.
serpent_sky
2012-02-07 04:46:51 PM
I saw him on the news last night and thought he may be mildly retarded, but isn't a criminal.
I'm surprised the kids aren't just homeschooled at this point. Not that I think Forrest Gump over there should be schooling his kids.
Where is the mother in all of this? I wonder if she took off or passed away or something and it's just not being mentioned?
pisceandreamer
2012-02-07 04:48:39 PM
Bathia_Mapes
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Also, the parents are setting a bad example by letting their children be chronically late to school.
Gives the kids a lovely "the rules don't apply to me" mentality. I'm pissed at the parents for not only their disregard for the rules, but for the other kids in the classes - having kids come in late is disruptive to the entire class.
SlothB77
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there is a shiatload of traffic around here.
I live in the county next door, and I understand the traffic issues - so, you leave the
earlier.
pisceandreamer
2012-02-07 04:49:34 PM
serpent_sky
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Where is the mother in all of this? I wonder if she took off or passed away or something and it's just not being mentioned?
She's just not on camera - both parents have been cited.
scottydoesntknow
2012-02-07 04:50:17 PM
He says most of those late arrivals have been only a few minutes.
You would think, after around the 100th late arrival, that they would figure out leaving a few minutes earlier would get your kids there a few minutes eariler....
Bathia_Mapes
2012-02-07 04:54:05 PM
pisceandreamer
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so, you leave the earlier.
Exactly.
I remember reading about this couple in another article (redlit thread) and they were whining that they were already getting up 15 minutes earlier and the kids were still arriving late to school.
If 15 minutes doesn't cut it, get up earlier, idiot! If you know traffic is bad in your area, if your kids are sluggish in the morning, then you just have to get up earlier. As a parent, you're responsible for making sure they arrive at school on time, especially when they're still in elementary school.
GAT_00
2012-02-07 04:56:21 PM
Just how much of a goddamn retard do you have to be to be late 150 times in two years for
anything
?
vudukungfu
2012-02-07 04:57:48 PM
Ok, Let's do this.
There are 365 days in one year.
Minus 3 months for vacation, is 275
Now, you got easter week, and the over newyears week at five days each, plus MLK day, and a hand full of other holidays were school is closed. make it and even 15 more days, giving you 260 days left.
now of the 9 months of school, there are @ 4 weekends in each @ 2 days per = 72 days off that remainder and you got 188 days left.
this kids parents apparently though that out of the 188 days of actually having to be there, they could be late for 150 of them.
they need to be sterilized, and have the kids put in foster care, or a work farm
And the parents should be sent to a farm and displace a couple of illegal workers.
they can pull tit and shovel shiat and STFU and never have kids again.
make an example of them.
Watch everyone else show up on time.
With cookies.
jaylectricity
2012-02-07 05:22:04 PM
vudukungfu
:
Ok, Let's do this.
There are 365 days in one year.
Minus 3 months for vacation, is 275
Now, you got easter week, and the over newyears week at five days each, plus MLK day, and a hand full of other holidays were school is closed. make it and even 15 more days, giving you 260 days left.
now of the 9 months of school, there are @ 4 weekends in each @ 2 days per = 72 days off that remainder and you got 188 days left.
this kids parents apparently though that out of the 188 days of actually having to be there, they could be late for 150 of them.
Not that it's much better, but it's actually 150 out about 360 days of school over two years.
OregonVet
2012-02-07 05:47:25 PM
My only biatch is that my sons ride the bus and at their age (K and 4th grades) don't get to screw around- staff herds them to the rooms in the morning. Yet they still get a tardy because the bus is late.
Bathia_Mapes
2012-02-07 05:53:18 PM
OregonVet
:
My only biatch is that my sons ride the bus and at their age (K and 4th grades) don't get to screw around- staff herds them to the rooms in the morning. Yet they still get a tardy because the bus is late.
Something that's completely out of the control of the parents and children, like the school bus being late, shouldn't be considered a tardy. If the child was at their bus stop on time, they're doing what they're supposed to be doing.
Just curious, is it the same bus driver everytime that's running late? If so, I'd start complaining loud and strong.
pisceandreamer
2012-02-07 05:53:49 PM
OregonVet
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My only biatch is that my sons ride the bus and at their age (K and 4th grades) don't get to screw around- staff herds them to the rooms in the morning. Yet they still get a tardy because the bus is late.
That's worth a call to the administration - you get them to the bus on time, if the bus is then late, it isn't your fault or the kids.
simplicimus
2012-02-07 06:17:26 PM
Reminds me of Dave Attel's line, "I hate to drive drunk, but the kids have to get to school".
itsdan
2012-02-07 06:42:39 PM
OregonVet
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My only biatch is that my sons ride the bus and at their age (K and 4th grades) don't get to screw around- staff herds them to the rooms in the morning. Yet they still get a tardy because the bus is late.
Are they somehow riding a public bus or is this an actual school bus?
Oh, also parents who drive their kids to school when a bus is available, you fail. First off kids are much safer even without seatbelts in a giant yellow bus than in your minivan. Secondly kids get so little socialization now days in school you're taking away what little opportunity they have. Not to mention you're just destroying any sense of independence they may be developing.
BKITU
2012-02-07 06:46:19 PM
namegoeshere
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As a parent who has gotten The Late Letter (dripping with strongly worded condemnation) in the past, I am horrified by this story. Of course, the letter showed up at my house
after the 9th tardy
, not the 150th.
Did this guy sign it?
dahmers love zombie
2012-02-07 06:49:02 PM
itsdan
:
OregonVet: My only biatch is that my sons ride the bus and at their age (K and 4th grades) don't get to screw around- staff herds them to the rooms in the morning. Yet they still get a tardy because the bus is late.
Are they somehow riding a public bus or is this an actual school bus?
Oh, also parents who drive their kids to school when a bus is available, you fail. First off kids are much safer even without seatbelts in a giant yellow bus than in your minivan. Secondly kids get so little socialization now days in school you're taking away what little opportunity they have. Not to mention you're just destroying any sense of independence they may be developing.
The first time this showed up on Fark, the story noted that the parents had a
two minute drive to the school
.
The level of fail is simply stunning.
GAT_00
2012-02-07 07:26:10 PM
Bathia_Mapes
:
OregonVet: My only biatch is that my sons ride the bus and at their age (K and 4th grades) don't get to screw around- staff herds them to the rooms in the morning. Yet they still get a tardy because the bus is late.
Something that's completely out of the control of the parents and children, like the school bus being late, shouldn't be considered a tardy. If the child was at their bus stop on time, they're doing what they're supposed to be doing.
Just curious, is it the same bus driver everytime that's running late? If so, I'd start complaining loud and strong.
According to the earlier article, they live 2 minutes away and they are driven there every day.
Bathia_Mapes
2012-02-07 07:56:17 PM
GAT_00
:
Bathia_Mapes: OregonVet: My only biatch is that my sons ride the bus and at their age (K and 4th grades) don't get to screw around- staff herds them to the rooms in the morning. Yet they still get a tardy because the bus is late.
Something that's completely out of the control of the parents and children, like the school bus being late, shouldn't be considered a tardy. If the child was at their bus stop on time, they're doing what they're supposed to be doing.
Just curious, is it the same bus driver everytime that's running late? If so, I'd start complaining loud and strong.
According to the earlier article, they live 2 minutes away and they are driven there every day.
I was asking OregonVet about his situation with late bus drivers. His children are being counted as being late to school when it was the bus driver who was late, not his children.
GAT_00
2012-02-07 08:01:18 PM
Bathia_Mapes
:
GAT_00: Bathia_Mapes: OregonVet: My only biatch is that my sons ride the bus and at their age (K and 4th grades) don't get to screw around- staff herds them to the rooms in the morning. Yet they still get a tardy because the bus is late.
Something that's completely out of the control of the parents and children, like the school bus being late, shouldn't be considered a tardy. If the child was at their bus stop on time, they're doing what they're supposed to be doing.
Just curious, is it the same bus driver everytime that's running late? If so, I'd start complaining loud and strong.
According to the earlier article, they live 2 minutes away and they are driven there every day.
I was asking OregonVet about his situation with late bus drivers. His children are being counted as being late to school when it was the bus driver who was late, not his children.
Oh. Reading is hard.
Teen Wolf Blitzer
2012-02-07 08:02:09 PM
Before we jump to any conclusions, have we considered that the parents just might not be morning people?
dukeblue219
2012-02-07 08:02:44 PM
vudukungfu
:
Ok, Let's do this.
There are 365 days in one year.
Minus 3 months for vacation, is 275
Now, you got easter week, and the over newyears week at five days each, plus MLK day, and a hand full of other holidays were school is closed. make it and even 15 more days, giving you 260 days left.
now of the 9 months of school, there are @ 4 weekends in each @ 2 days per = 72 days off that remainder and you got 188 days left.
Or, if you don't remember it yourself, you could Google it and find out that most school districts have exactly 180 days a year...
whatshisname
2012-02-07 08:03:42 PM
GAT_00
:
they live 2 minutes away and they are driven there every day.
WTF? Poor little snowflakes.
I bet they're fat.
morgantx
2012-02-07 08:05:12 PM
In fairness, if all the kids go to school together and there is a combined total of 150 tardies, that means that each child has been late 50 times in the past two years. If you assume the average school year of 36 weeks, that's a little less than one tardy a week.
So, not GREAT, but it's not like they actually got the kids to school late 150 times.
cmcl
2012-02-07 08:05:20 PM
TFA points out that daddy is a lawyer. Raise your hand if you're actually surprised that daddy is teaching snowflakes to be entitled little crap-diamonds who expect the rules to apply to everybody but them.
pisceandreamer
2012-02-07 08:06:05 PM
dahmers love zombie
:
The first time this showed up on Fark, the story noted that the parents had a two minute drive to the school.
The level of fail is simply stunning.
I substitute teach and the number of kids that get driven to school is absolutely insane. When we were kids, I swear the only times we didn't either walk or take the bus was either a) we were running really late, which displeased my Mom to no end, or b) we had projects that would get destroyed on the bus or dropped on the walk.
The First Four Black Sabbath Albums
2012-02-07 08:09:36 PM
He should move to the West Coast. You're pretty much required to be late to everything here. It's really annoying having grown up in the Midwest where "on time" is fifteen minutes early.
MrEricSir
2012-02-07 08:11:43 PM
The First Four Black Sabbath Albums
:
He should move to the West Coast. You're pretty much required to be late to everything here. It's really annoying having grown up in the Midwest where "on time" is fifteen minutes early.
The "60 minute rule" applies to social events, not school.
distopianDream
2012-02-07 08:14:10 PM
itsdan
:
OregonVet: My only biatch is that my sons ride the bus and at their age (K and 4th grades) don't get to screw around- staff herds them to the rooms in the morning. Yet they still get a tardy because the bus is late.
Are they somehow riding a public bus or is this an actual school bus?
Oh, also parents who drive their kids to school when a bus is available, you fail. First off kids are much safer even without seatbelts in a giant yellow bus than in your minivan. Secondly kids get so little socialization now days in school you're taking away what little opportunity they have. Not to mention you're just destroying any sense of independence they may be developing.
My son attends a private school 1/2 mile from my work. If he took a bus he'd have to change buses a total of 4 times. There are bigger issues in the world than parents driving their kids to school.
Amurica...Fark Ya!
2012-02-07 08:16:41 PM
psychoace
2012-02-07 08:16:59 PM
doglover
:
I don't see the issue either.
It's called a school bus ya cheap bastards! You're supposed to have one available or the kids can walk.
City schools don't have buses. They have the kids ride the CTA with reduced fare passes. Otherwise parents have to drive them.
TrixieDelite
2012-02-07 08:17:39 PM
pisceandreamer
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dahmers love zombie: The first time this showed up on Fark, the story noted that the parents had a two minute drive to the school.
The level of fail is simply stunning.
I substitute teach and the number of kids that get driven to school is absolutely insane. When we were kids, I swear the only times we didn't either walk or take the bus was either a) we were running really late, which displeased my Mom to no end, or b) we had projects that would get destroyed on the bus or dropped on the walk.
It depends on the type of area you live in. Our area is pretty rural, and the 2-lane highway that gets my kids to school each day is not something I would EVER let them walk or ride their bikes on. Older kid takes the bus to middle school (20 minutes away), youngster gets driven to elementary school (5 minutes away). Also, the rural bus stops don't have any kind of covering. Spending the day in jeans that are wet from standing in a freezing rain while waiting for the bus is miserable.
psychoace
2012-02-07 08:17:54 PM
psychoace
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doglover: I don't see the issue either.
It's called a school bus ya cheap bastards! You're supposed to have one available or the kids can walk.
City schools don't have buses. They have the kids ride the CTA with reduced fare passes. Otherwise parents have to drive them.
Forgot to mention I'm just using Chicago as an example.
T.M.S.
2012-02-07 08:18:32 PM
itsdan
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OregonVet: My only biatch is that my sons ride the bus and at their age (K and 4th grades) don't get to screw around- staff herds them to the rooms in the morning. Yet they still get a tardy because the bus is late.
Are they somehow riding a public bus or is this an actual school bus?
Oh, also parents who drive their kids to school when a bus is available, you fail. First off kids are much safer even without seatbelts in a giant yellow bus than in your minivan. Secondly kids get so little socialization now days in school you're taking away what little opportunity they have. Not to mention you're just destroying any sense of independence they may be developing.
Um, No.
TrixieDelite
2012-02-07 08:24:36 PM
pisceandreamer
:
dahmers love zombie: The first time this showed up on Fark, the story noted that the parents had a two minute drive to the school.
The level of fail is simply stunning.
I substitute teach and the number of kids that get driven to school is absolutely insane. When we were kids, I swear the only times we didn't either walk or take the bus was either a) we were running really late, which displeased my Mom to no end, or b) we had projects that would get destroyed on the bus or dropped on the walk.
Oh...and I don't know where you live, but in our district, the bus doesn't just run on butterflies and pixie dust. It runs on money. A year of one-way travel? $150. A year of round-trip travel? $250. A lot of people simply can't shell out that amount of money to keep people like you from making judgements about them.
Real Women Drink Akvavit
2012-02-07 08:26:00 PM
MrEricSir
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The First Four Black Sabbath Albums: He should move to the West Coast. You're pretty much required to be late to everything here. It's really annoying having grown up in the Midwest where "on time" is fifteen minutes early.
The "60 minute rule" applies to social events, not school.
Exactly. You don't want to be the first one to the party, but you don't want to be the last to arrive either because then you appear arrogant. Being this incredibly awesome is a very delicate balancing act.
School, or for us very large "kids", work, you try to be the first one in so you get first crack at the coffee. Everyone knows no one makes more once it is gone unless you catch them taking the last of it and then shame them into making more coffee. One must prepare for that inevitability by being first or second one in.
/exception to 60 minute rule for social events made if everyone is meeting at my house, then going out
//I wait for NO ONE
MAYORBOB
2012-02-07 08:26:54 PM
Daddy is a lawyer. I smell a hell of a court case coming up.
In other related aspects, they live about a mile from the school; I can kinda sorta understand being late once or twice a year - what amounts to every other day is criminally irresponsible.
buckler
2012-02-07 08:27:03 PM
Headline in TFA has an extraneous letter. It should read
"Va. couple charged for children's repeated
tardness
".
Rubberband Girl
2012-02-07 08:27:13 PM
FTFA
-
"We aren't perfect and I think the fact that the public school system is trying to criminalize this kind of problem is the real issue," Mark Denicore says.
Yeah, but there's a big difference between "not perfect" and "total fark-up." Being late two or three or even four times a year falls under the former category, bringing you kids to school late 150 times in a two year period falls under the latter.
TheMysticS
2012-02-07 08:27:25 PM
itsdan
:
OregonVet: My only biatch is that my sons ride the bus and at their age (K and 4th grades) don't get to screw around- staff herds them to the rooms in the morning. Yet they still get a tardy because the bus is late.
Are they somehow riding a public bus or is this an actual school bus?
Oh, also parents who drive their kids to school when a bus is available, you fail. First off kids are much safer even without seatbelts in a giant yellow bus than in your minivan. Secondly kids get so little socialization now days in school you're taking away what little opportunity they have. Not to mention you're just destroying any sense of independence they may be developing.
So, how do you get your kids to school?
granolasteak
2012-02-07 08:32:02 PM
Bathia_Mapes
:
Also, the parents are setting a bad example by letting their children be chronically late to school. Makes me wonder how often the parents are late for work.
Chronic lateness is also one of the top reasons given when people are fired. It's right up there with frequent absenteeism.
Hooooooooooomeschooooooooooool those kids. Then they'll never be late.
/Is a homeschooling parent of many, and is never late for the job.
randomjsa
2012-02-07 08:35:41 PM
He says most of those late arrivals have been only a few minutes.
Late is late. If class starts at 8AM, then at 8:00:01 you are late.
If you say its okay to be a "few minutes" late, then the new start time for class is 8:05:00, and at 8:05:01 you are late...
But what if you miss that? Well, it's only a few minutes... What's the big deal? 8:08 should be fine...
So what if we were a few minutes late? It's no big deal, 8:15 should be fine.
You either have to set an absolute rule that cannot be broken even slightly or you're just inviting trouble and until they throw the book at these parents, they're
not going to change
eatin' fetus
2012-02-07 08:35:47 PM
TrixieDelite
:
A year of one-way travel? $150. A year of round-trip travel? $250
lol
itsdan
2012-02-07 08:37:41 PM
T.M.S.
:
itsdan: OregonVet: My only biatch is that my sons ride the bus and at their age (K and 4th grades) don't get to screw around- staff herds them to the rooms in the morning. Yet they still get a tardy because the bus is late.
Are they somehow riding a public bus or is this an actual school bus?
Oh, also parents who drive their kids to school when a bus is available, you fail. First off kids are much safer even without seatbelts in a giant yellow bus than in your minivan. Secondly kids get so little socialization now days in school you're taking away what little opportunity they have. Not to mention you're just destroying any sense of independence they may be developing.
Um, No.
While your argument is compelling,
School buses: Safest form of student travel
and
Of the school-aged children killed in crashes during school hours, 58 percent of the deaths are to those in cars driven by teens, 23 percent are in cars driven by adults and
just 1 percent are in school buses
.
Person
2012-02-07 08:38:27 PM
Would you hire a lawyer whose kids were late to school a total of 150 over a two year period? That's pretty irresponsible. I don't know that I'd want someone like that handling my paperwork.
YouPeopleAreCrazy
2012-02-07 08:42:54 PM
Our town has dedicated school buses. Old neighbors of mine would drive the kid to the bus stop. The bus stop was 100 yards away from the house.
There was one incident of bullying on the bus (two other kids) and Mama Snowflake drove the kid every day until he graduated.
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