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(AP) NewsFlash Karen Handel resigns from Komen for the Cure to spend more time making decisions for your family   (hosted.ap.org) divider line 371
    More: NewsFlash, Karen Handel, Komen for the Cure, Komen, metro Atlanta, Nancy Brinker, Nathan Deal, Planned Parenthood, cure  
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2012-02-07 10:56:54 PM  

Balchinian: Blah blah blah.

You're not very good at this right-wing white-knighting. Instead of entertaining FARK with your half-assed and clown-like pleas that are devoid of facts and only barely hinged in reality, why not write up your resume and send it to SGK? Last I've heard they really dig that amateur-hour right-wing drivel in board positions.

OT: From my point of view it looks like Komen grew from a charity into a corporation, the distance between the top-most hierarchy and the public became so large that the whole board became alienated and more and more politicized. SGK tried to shift from being a charity to being a right-wing mouthpiece by blindly following a right-wing fundie endorsed by Sarah Palin. (Like that didn't had DOOM spelled all over it...) Alas, they were not prepared for the backlash. They didn't even have the lack of remorse and self-reflection all other Republicans seem to have: "never admit you were wrong" and "never reverse a decision". They did both, and by doing so alienated even more people. Couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of farkwits.

/Off to the Abortionplex (new window)
 
2012-02-07 11:25:26 PM  

DoBeDoBeDo: MeinRS6: If any of this leads to getting that pink shiat off of the football field, then I'm for it.

Why do you hate boobies?

Love going to October games and seeing the tight shirted sorority girls handing out pink ribbon stickers in the parking lots.

But then again I'm all for boobies, lots and lots of boobies!


So am I, but there are far worse cancers out there that effect both men only, and women+men, but they get buried under the Pink Ribbon of Guilt.
 
2012-02-08 12:01:40 AM  
Anti-abortion and pro-war, you can't explain that, Christians.
 
2012-02-08 01:30:55 AM  

MBooda: The My Little Pony Killer: MBooda: /financial contributor to PP for ten years until I found out what goes on during their "sessions"

I call bullshiat on both points.

/was that teenager in those "sessions"

And I'm sure they gave equal time and effort in explaining all available options before strapping you into the stirrups.

/I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it
//not Voltaire, but an amazing simulation


I will defend to the death your right to an opinion.

But if we're talking something factual, show your farking work.

If your "opinion" doesn't match the actual facts, you're a moron with an agenda and blinders on and your "opinion" is a farking lie.

However, there is lots of evidence that so-called Crisis Pregnancy Centers are perfectly willing to lie and manipulate scared pregnant women and girls - anything but let them choose an abortion even if that's what they went there for in the first place.

Unless you have similar evidence of Planned Parenthood doing suck things, kindly:

1) Find a fire.
2) Die in it.
 
2012-02-08 02:00:38 AM  

Shadowknight: She is going to get a job in some other Right Wing think-tank or over at Fox News, have no doubt about that.


Isn't "right-wing think tank" an oxymoron?
 
2012-02-08 02:09:44 AM  

Sexpun T'Come: Isn't "right-wing think tank" an oxymoron?


We didn't say what the tank is full of.
 
2012-02-08 02:13:53 AM  

saintstryfe: Great Porn Dragon: Only ONCE they've THOROUGHLY cleaned house will even talking be a consideration--meanwhile, I've now added "pink ribbon" crap to my personal "boycott as a corporate funder of dominionist crap" list right next to Hobby Lobby and Chick-Fil-A. AND what little money I have that I can donate to charity gets to go to Planned Parenthood's local offices, kthx. :D

Waaaaiit.... Hobby Lobby? How and why?


I didn't mind that they closed on Sundays (it's not like there aren't half a dozen other craft/hobby stores around). that combined with the Jesus music and copious amount of Jesus-themed merch compared to their competitors got me wondering. also, the fact that they don't use barcode scanners was kind of a red flag. I googled and came up with basically the same stuff Great Porn Dragon posted.

creepy. I can get craft supplies plenty of other places.
 
2012-02-08 02:52:07 AM  
ha ha!
 
2012-02-08 03:17:51 AM  
Double mastectomy and dealing with it (heh and looking forward to perky new ones). When you are dealt a blow like breast cancer, it's good to hear from others also learning to handle it, and be glad you're alive.

This Komen crap makes me want to puke.

When Big Pink Ribbon Inc. decides to cut off (yes, pardon the pun) donations to PP and women with no insurance who are experiencing the enormous impact I have; well, my Irish temper has been boiling for a week now.

Screw you, fundies ...
 
2012-02-08 03:27:49 AM  
Oh, and fark you, Karen Handel, you sanctimonious, judgemental, self-righteous lying sack of shiat
 
2012-02-08 04:06:17 AM  
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Hope the screen door hit her where her "Good Lord" split her... fat ass.
 
2012-02-08 04:37:42 AM  

Shadowknight: Don't you know that PP hunts down pregnant women and aborts their loved unborn children in the dead of night while screaming "I am woman, hear me roar?"


Tonight, on "The Weirdest Boner"...
 
2012-02-08 09:14:11 AM  

Balchinian: Sorry for the delay, I had to run into town for a bit.

OK, Yes Brinker was flipflopping in the interview, but given the contents of Handel's letter I decided that the testimony of two people who were open to being identified were more credible than some nameless HuffPo source. (It is HuffPo, remember.) The second reason I give it credibility is that it is simply makes more sense for it to have happened the way the two SGK people say it did.


"Nameless sources" are often the only way we can get information. As we know, Komen pays people quite well, and job security is usually an important factor in whether or not someone will leak information.

But to your second reason...how does it make "more sense" that the VP FOR PUBLIC POLICY had absolutely NO involvement in a decision regarding public policy?

Either she was just a figurehead VP who was making six-figures at a charity (which really reflects negatively on Komen), or she was directly involved in this decision.

Link (new window)

"Emails between Komen leadership on the day the Planned Parenthood decision was announced, which were reviewed by HuffPost under the condition they not be published, confirm the source's description of Handel's sole "authority" in crafting and implementing the Planned Parenthood policy."

Are you saying that HuffPo flat-out lied about having emails in their possession?

If so, you're setting a pretty high farking standard for future newsworthy events. If someone has to be on camera with a "smoking gun," Nixon would be one of our most revered presidents.

But really, what does make more sense?

1. SGK has been forthright and honest - Handel had nothing to do with the decision, which was in no way political.

2. Handel, who wrote the below section during her gubernatorial campaign, joined Komen with an agenda, and then pushed that agenda as soon as she could.

First, let me be clear, since I am pro-life, I do not support the mission of Planned Parenthood. During my time as Chairman of Fulton County, there were federal and state pass-through grants that were awarded to Planned Parenthood for breast and cervical cancer screening, as well as a "Healthy Babies Initiative." The grant was authorized, regulated, administered and distributed through the State of Georgia. Because of the criteria, regulations and parameters of the grant, Planned Parenthood was the only eligible vendor approved to meet the state criteria. Additionally, none of the services in any way involved abortions or abortion-related services. In fact, state and federal law prohibits the use of taxpayer funds for abortions or abortion related services and I strongly support those laws. Since grants like these are from the state I'll eliminate them as your next Governor.

Nah, it makes total sense for someone with the above views to be a VP FOR PUBLIC POLICY, then take a hands-off approach when it came to the group's public policy with regards to Planned Parenthood.
 
2012-02-08 09:38:29 AM  

NYCNative: MBooda: The My Little Pony Killer: MBooda: /financial contributor to PP for ten years until I found out what goes on during their "sessions"

I call bullshiat on both points.

/was that teenager in those "sessions"

And I'm sure they gave equal time and effort in explaining all available options before strapping you into the stirrups.

/I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it
//not Voltaire, but an amazing simulation

I will defend to the death your right to an opinion.

But if we're talking something factual, show your farking work.

If your "opinion" doesn't match the actual facts, you're a moron with an agenda and blinders on and your "opinion" is a farking lie.

However, there is lots of evidence that so-called Crisis Pregnancy Centers are perfectly willing to lie and manipulate scared pregnant women and girls - anything but let them choose an abortion even if that's what they went there for in the first place.

Unless you have similar evidence of Planned Parenthood doing suck things, kindly:

1) Find a fire.
2) Die in it.


Stopping abortion is only part of their primary goal - creating artificial orphans.

Link (new window)

While there is growing awareness of how CPCs hinder abortion access, the centers have a broader agenda that is less well known: they seek not only to induce women to "choose life" but to choose adoption, either by offering adoption services themselves... or by referring women to Christian adoption agencies. Far more than other adoption agencies, conservative Christian agencies demonstrate a pattern and history of coercing women to relinquish their children.

They aren't just helping the woman make a choice by pushing her to one option - they're farming babies for Christian families.

To be charitable and nice, I'd call that a conflict of interest.

Shotgun adoptions (new window).

Jordan was isolated in the shepherding family's house; her only social contact was with the agency, which called her a "saint" for continuing her pregnancy but asked her to consider "what's best for the baby." "They come on really prolife: look at the baby, look at its heartbeat, don't kill it. Then, once you say you won't kill it, they ask, What can you give it? You have nothing to offer, but here's a family that goes on a cruise every year."

Jordan was given scrapbooks full of letters and photos from hopeful adoptive parents hoping to stand out among the estimated 150 couples for every available baby. Today the "birthmother letters" are on Bethany's website: 500 couples who pay $14,500 to $25,500 for a domestic infant adoption, vying for mothers' attention with profuse praise of their "selflessness" and descriptions of the lifestyle they can offer.

Jordan selected a couple, and when she went into labor, they attended the birth, along with her counselor and shepherding mother. The next day, the counselor said that fully open adoptions weren't legal in South Carolina, so Jordan wouldn't receive identifying information on the adoptive parents. Jordan cried all day and didn't think she could relinquish the baby. She called her shepherding parents and asked if she could bring the baby home. They refused, chastising Jordan sharply. The counselor told the couple Jordan was having second thoughts and brought them, sobbing, into her recovery room. The counselor warned Jordan that if she persisted, she'd end up homeless and lose the baby anyway.

"My options were to leave the hospital walking, with no money," says Jordan. "Or here's a couple with Pottery Barn furniture. You sacrifice yourself, not knowing it will leave an impact on you and your child for life."

The next morning, Jordan was rushed through signing relinquishment papers by a busy, on-duty nurse serving as notary public. As soon as she'd signed, the couple left with the baby, and Jordan was taken home without being discharged. The shepherding family was celebrating and asked why Jordan wouldn't stop crying. Five days later, she used her last $50 to buy a Greyhound ticket to Greenville, where she struggled for weeks to reach a Bethany post-adoption counselor as her milk came in and she rapidly lost more than fifty pounds in her grief.

When Jordan called Bethany's statewide headquarters one night, her shepherding mother answered, responding coldly to Jordan's lament. "You're the one who spread your legs and got pregnant out of wedlock," she told Jordan. "You have no right to grieve for this baby."


Absolute farking scum working "in the Lord's name."
 
2012-02-08 10:01:43 AM  
That's why all my money goes to more progressive causes.

i.imgur.com
 
2012-02-08 12:48:17 PM  
rufus-t-firefly:Absolute farking scum working "in the Lord's name."

Yeah, I heard about that as well. Again, lots of evidence of this kind of crap. But as of yet MBooda has yet to provice a single bit of evidence of anything against Planned Parenthood.

Thatr's because MBooda is a liar.
 
2012-02-08 02:51:23 PM  

NYCNative: rufus-t-firefly:Absolute farking scum working "in the Lord's name."

Yeah, I heard about that as well. Again, lots of evidence of this kind of crap. But as of yet MBooda has yet to provice a single bit of evidence of anything against Planned Parenthood.

Thatr's because MBooda is a liar.


I think it's safe to say I'm not going to find out what he thinks happened to me as a teenager as Planned Parenthood.
 
2012-02-08 03:18:04 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: I think it's safe to say I'm not going to find out what he thinks happened to me as a teenager as Planned Parenthood.


Would you settle for what I witnessed?

Was visiting Charleston, SC back in February 1986 with a friend. She was unmarried, and had gotten knocked up by her boyfriend back in Louisiana. She was conflicted, to put it mildly. She was on the edge of hysterical. She decided to head for PP in Charleston but was in no state to drive, so I was chauffeur. Of course, PP spent a long time with her calming her down, discussing various options with her, respecting her emotional state and the life of her baby, and allowing her to make an unprejudiced, well-informed decision. No, of course not, that's a lie. They had her d&c'ed, the baby flushed and she was out of there in less than an hour.

Don't tell me PP acts in anyone's best interest except their own.
 
2012-02-08 04:14:19 PM  
Too little, too late. I'm never supporting Komen for a Cure again, and I used to support them when I had money to give, and still do.

For example I found a $20 bill on the street in Harvard Square last week and sent it to Planned Parenthood as a charitable donation.

Anyone to takes a viable non-profit that does legitimate good and turns it into a platform for hate and venom needs to be burned alive. I hope she burns in obscurity. The sad thing is she'll go back to the Mouth-breather South and be treated like a farking hero.
 
2012-02-08 05:32:25 PM  
MBooda, if you were not in the room with your friend, you did not *witness* anything. You have no idea what your friend's state of mind was or what her decision regarding the baby was going to be, nor was it any of your business.

Of course, not that I'd believe your story anyway. You're choosing to ignore where I pointed out that you discredit yourself.

I've been in that room. You haven't. Simple as that.
 
2012-02-09 05:54:32 AM  

MBooda: They had her d&c'ed, the baby flushed and she was out of there in less than an hour.

Don't tell me PP acts in anyone's best interest except their own.


How horrible! They should have guilt tripped her, messed up her mind, screwed with her, and dragged out the emotional process for as long as possible so she becomes an emo wreck for years and years. That's the best way to do it.
 
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