NOBODY who gets a carried interest exemption is paying their "fair share" of taxes. It's one thing to get a break on your money you invest yourself. It's quite another to get a tax break on money you invest for other people.

ManateeGag: Obama better start packing, because come November, he's outta there.

Your friend is right. He'll be gone in November.

November 2016.

Liberal plants, etc.

heinekenftw: ManateeGag: Obama better start packing, because come November, he's outta there.

Your friend is right. He'll be gone in November.

November 2016.

So you're saying the Republicans will finally impeach him for his high crimes 2 months before he was set to leave office in January of 2017?

It's been interesting to watch the libs go from "obama has let us down, most disappointing president ever" to "obama is the best president ever!!!" in a few months.

Well, libs, the rest of us haven't forgotten what obama has done to this country.

While I am not a huge fan of Romney even a chimp could beat obama at this point. Romney will win in a landslide.

Millions of populist republicans (aka Reagan Democrats) are coming to the realization that free market neoliberalism is a crock of shiat, while still millions more want to go full laissez faire libertarian. That's going to cause real problems for the GOP.

Not to worry, once it becomes well known he tried to baptize the soul of a dead atheist he'll lock up the independent vote.

Unless Obama dresses up in a witch doctor outfit and performs and exorcism on Franklin Roosevelt.

Not only is Romney not going to get elected, nobody at the Harvard Club will talk to him after all their taxes get raised because his candidacy publicizes the issue of how little they all pay now.

evoke: It's been interesting to watch the libs go from "obama has let us down, most disappointing president ever" to "obama is the best president ever!!!" in a few months.

Well, libs, the rest of us haven't forgotten what obama has done to this country.

While I am not a huge fan of Romney even a chimp could beat obama at this point. Romney will win in a landslide.

2/10

You had me at the beginning, but tried to hard towards the end.

To be fair, despite being a terrible human being, Rick Perry would probably be the front runner if he wasn't such a mouth breathing idiot who can't debate for shiat.

/Of course, if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.

evoke: It's been interesting to watch the libs go from "obama has let us down, most disappointing president ever" to "obama is the best president ever!!!" in a few months.

Well, libs, the rest of us haven't forgotten what obama has done to this country.

While I am not a huge fan of Romney even a chimp could beat obama at this point. Romney will win in a landslide.

Well, let's hear it. I'm Keen to Guess.



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I think it's pretty obvious that the conservatives don't think 15% is unfair because it's too low. They know that rate is tyrannically high, and agree with Paul and Gingrich that he should be paying 0% on his investments. That Mormon church isn't going to convert Christians to the true religion- I mean... create jobs in the short sleeve dress shirt and black tie industry on its own.

dehehn: That Mormon church isn't going to convert Christians to the true religion

Not until they're dead, at least.

SVenus: [28.media.tumblr.com image 500x399]

Is that an actual picture? If so, that's awesome.

Magorn: RexTalionis: This has been quite the Republican primary so far. I never thought I'd see a campaign where the Republican frontrunner is accused, by his fellow Republicans, of not paying enough taxes or being too much of a capitalist.

Honest to god I think the "Occupy" movement should think seriously about giving Newt Gingrich a "Man of the Year" award or something. All those conversations they were trying to start about income and wealth inequality and the basic unfairness of the tax structure? Newt did it for them, almost single-handedly sparking a flood of news stories about capital gains tax rates, the "carried interest" deduction, and the role of private equity firms in the economy.


And the best part was because NEWT brought them up, the whole "Class envy/Democrats hate sucessful people/SOCIALIZM!" rebuttal wasn't effective anymore

"It took Nixon to go to China..."

Could it be that Newt, despite what and awful and completely horrible human being he is, actually inadvertently did something good for the country based on inflating his own ego?

the_vegetarian_cannibal: Magorn: RexTalionis: This has been quite the Republican primary so far. I never thought I'd see a campaign where the Republican frontrunner is accused, by his fellow Republicans, of not paying enough taxes or being too much of a capitalist.

Honest to god I think the "Occupy" movement should think seriously about giving Newt Gingrich a "Man of the Year" award or something. All those conversations they were trying to start about income and wealth inequality and the basic unfairness of the tax structure? Newt did it for them, almost single-handedly sparking a flood of news stories about capital gains tax rates, the "carried interest" deduction, and the role of private equity firms in the economy.


And the best part was because NEWT brought them up, the whole "Class envy/Democrats hate sucessful people/SOCIALIZM!" rebuttal wasn't effective anymore

"It took Nixon to go to China..."

Could it be that Newt, despite what and awful and completely horrible human being he is, actually inadvertently did something good for the country based on inflating his own ego?

And sound you just heard accompanied by the smell of ozone was the collective short circuiting of every brain of a fark liberal

But farkers assured me that OWS was a failure and nobody but a small percentage of the lazy cared about wealth and income gaps in this country.

evoke: It's been interesting to watch the libs go from "obama has let us down, most disappointing president ever" to "obama is the best president ever!!!" in a few months.

I came for this. It is very true. Just because it's an election cycle, everyone is like, "Obama is the greatest!"

When a couple months of go, everyone was like, "Obama has been disappointing."

How about they all suck?

evoke: It's been interesting to watch the libs go from "obama has let us down, most disappointing president ever" to "obama is the best president ever!!!" in a few months.

Well, libs, the rest of us haven't forgotten what obama has done to this country.

While I am not a huge fan of Romney even a chimp could beat obama at this point. Romney will win in a landslide.

That's what happens when you see what the alternatives are. It's like going to a restaurant and ordering a burger and it ends up being a little overcooked, the lettuce is wilted and they forgot the cheese and didn't even HAVE an option for bacon. Then you go up the street and see signs for "shiatburger" at every other joint in town.

It's called perspective. And I've certainly gotten some more in recent months. Reekris.

SVenus: [28.media.tumblr.com image 500x399]

We need more of these.

skilbride: I came for this. It is very true. Just because it's an election cycle, everyone is like, "Obama is the greatest!"

When a couple months of go, everyone was like, "Obama has been disappointing."

Who is everyone? There is not a single person in this thread saying anything like that.

evoke: While I am not a huge fan of Romney even a chimp could beat obama at this point. Romney will win in a landslide.

Then put your money where your mouth is, biatch. Let's make this interesting.

For all the shiat talk the anti-Obama crowd does, no one seems willing to step up to the plate.

Obama has been a disappointment to the Rainbows and Unicorns crowd. He's playing a long-game in an arena where people's attention spans are measure in milliseconds.

BeesNuts: evoke: It's been interesting to watch the libs go from "obama has let us down, most disappointing president ever" to "obama is the best president ever!!!" in a few months.

Well, libs, the rest of us haven't forgotten what obama has done to this country.

While I am not a huge fan of Romney even a chimp could beat obama at this point. Romney will win in a landslide.

That's what happens when you see what the alternatives are. It's like going to a restaurant and ordering a burger and it ends up being a little overcooked, the lettuce is wilted and they forgot the cheese and didn't even HAVE an option for bacon. Then you go up the street and see signs for "shiatburger" at every other joint in town.

It's called perspective. And I've certainly gotten some more in recent months. Reekris.

Excellent analogy. I can't blame the competant Republicans for wanting to stay out of this one, because once you run they don't normally let you run again (unless you don't get the nom). Waiting this out till 2016 is probably the smart move, but now we get to have all these candidates who don't know what the smart move is.

natazha: Obama has been a disappointment to the Rainbows and Unicorns crowd. He's playing a long-game in an arena where people's attention spans are measure in milliseconds.

I'm just pissed that it really doesn't look like we'll ever get an actual liberal in the White House. Judging by how much the Republicans have shiat their pants when a moderate like Obama tries to act like an adult, I can't imagine what will happen if we ever get an actual liberal in there.

YoungSwedishBlonde: heinekenftw: ManateeGag: Obama better start packing, because come November, he's outta there.

Your friend is right. He'll be gone in November.

November 2016.

So you're saying the Republicans will finally impeach him for his high crimes 2 months before he was set to leave office in January of 2017?

No, he's going to blow another half trillion dollars on another trip to India.

evoke: While I am not a huge fan of Romney even a chimp could beat obama at this point. Romney will win in a landslide.

I have bad news for you. Romney is not a chimp. Nor is he a human. He's not a hominid of any kind. He's actually a golem. Unlike your standard-issue Jewish golem, however, he is not made of river clay. He is made of a big, fat pile of money. Dirty, filthy, ill-gotten money.

I've been disappointed in Obama in more than a few areas, but I can see he wasn't exactly in a position to get done what needed to be done all by himself.

overall he's done alright, and here's the thing for those who can't see why dems who complained about Obama are lining up to support him now...he's by far the best choice out there.

Who shall I vote for instead?
Romney? absolutely not
Mr. Paul? ah, no I went through a little libertarian phase in my 20s and I'm better now

who?

for those bashing Obama, try to promote an alternative instead, then you might see what I'm talking about

I see Obama as basically a pragmatic moderate

natazha: Obama has been a disappointment to the Rainbows and Unicorns crowd. He's playing a long-game in an arena where people's attention spans are measure in milliseconds.

At the same time the GOP pissed me off royally with this batch of losers they threw out to run against him so as a registered republican I will be voting for Fartbongo as he is the least disturbing choice to me.

Sir Vanderhoot: natazha: Obama has been a disappointment to the Rainbows and Unicorns crowd. He's playing a long-game in an arena where people's attention spans are measure in milliseconds.

I'm just pissed that it really doesn't look like we'll ever get an actual liberal in the White House. Judging by how much the Republicans have shiat their pants when a moderate like Obama tries to act like an adult, I can't imagine what will happen if we ever get an actual liberal in there.

I almost understand how someone could be ignorant of economics and see him as a liberal on tax policy or something, especially if they listened to pundits too much. I still can't wrap my mind around how liberal people say he is on foreign policy. Its as though the conservative voters in our country honestly believe that McCain would have found another war or two to be in by this point. What farking world do they live in?

unexplained bacon: I see Obama as basically a pragmatic moderate

Obama is a center-right corporatist - similar to Clinton, except without the womanizing tendencies.

Anybody who claims otherwise doesn't want to examine the facts and wants to go on emotion or assumption or what someone tells them.

But despite that, the thought of a Romney or a Gingrich in the office is why I'll be voting for Obama - and hoping in 2016 for someone in the primaries that might actually work toward a true progressive agenda instead of a moderate / center-right agenda.

unexplained bacon: I've been disappointed in Obama in more than a few areas, but I can see he wasn't exactly in a position to get done what needed to be done all by himself.

Perhaps if he had majority control of the house and senate for some significant period of time, two years would do it, would he then be in a better position to get what he wants?

watson.t.hamster: unexplained bacon: I've been disappointed in Obama in more than a few areas, but I can see he wasn't exactly in a position to get done what needed to be done all by himself.

Perhaps if he had majority control of the house and senate for some significant period of time, two years would do it, would he then be in a better position to get what he wants?

This post should be fillibustered for the crime of ignoring reality.

/they never had real majority control of the senate because lieberman was included in that count and franken wasn't seated for a long fracking time. and Kennedy died. Plus the Dems have the blue dogs.

watson.t.hamster: unexplained bacon: I've been disappointed in Obama in more than a few areas, but I can see he wasn't exactly in a position to get done what needed to be done all by himself.

Perhaps if he had majority control of the house and senate for some significant period of time, two years would do it, would he then be in a better position to get what he wants?

The GOP has effectively made 60 votes the rule for passing legislation and confirming executive, judicial, and military nominees in the Senate with their extensive use of the filibuster. They only had that margin for 134 days in the 111th Congress, and that's when you include Bernie Sanders and Joseph Lieberman as ostensibly Democrats.

DarnoKonrad: Millions of populist republicans (aka Reagan Democrats) are coming to the realization that free market neoliberalism is a crock of shiat

Economic liberalization is not "a crock of shiat". What many people are coming to realize is that the solution to our problem is more complicated than simply "regulating more" or "regulating less". Reasonable, effective regulation can help keep markets competitive and thriving, while ineffective, overbearing regulation will cause them to stagnate and hinder competition. Are the people calling for a completely laissez faire system misguided? Of course. But so are you for utterly dismissing neoliberalism, presumably in favor of some sort of command economy.

Wicked Chinchilla: Serious Black:

Ok, so democrats never had a majority in either house for the entirety of Obama's first term.
Then given what has been passed Republicans must have been extremely generous to Obama.

/seriously guys, give that lie a rest. The "oh boo hoo democrats never get to pass anything because republicans are wizards and can turn less than 50% in to a mathematical majority" get's real old. Especially in light of empirical evidence.