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(Talking Points Memo)   Republicans set to keep farking that Medicare chicken   (tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 117
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2012-02-07 08:46:06 AM  
The problem is this time they are leaving in a public option (at least temporarily). So they can claim that they are not doing away with the current system. Just gutting its funding.

I'm sure this 'change' will give some Democrats cover to vote for it.
 
2012-02-07 08:53:10 AM  
It's almost as if the Republicans don't want to win.
 
2012-02-07 08:54:46 AM  
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2012-02-07 08:56:09 AM  
So basically they want to turn Medicare into Obama's initial idea for HCR with the Public Option and everything.

lulz.
 
2012-02-07 09:17:36 AM  

Dinki: The problem is this time they are leaving in a public option (at least temporarily). So they can claim that they are not doing away with the current system. Just gutting its funding.

I'm sure this 'change' will give some Democrats cover to vote for it.


Strangely, I think the democrats picked up some shred of savvy in the past three months. I don't think they're going to go for it...
 
2012-02-07 09:58:44 AM  
At this point, it's just a handful of bloody feathers and Santorum.
 
2012-02-07 09:59:41 AM  
Looks an awful lot like the democrats initial proposal for HCR a few years ago. Is that wrong?
 
2012-02-07 10:00:14 AM  
They are working for the people who own them, it's not suicide it is completing their end of the bargain. Then maybe they get thrown out of office and get jobs in the private sector for their bribees or maybe not. Either way the damage is done and we won't be getting it back.
 
2012-02-07 10:01:52 AM  
I thought forcing people to buy into a private system is unconstitutional. Or is that only when Obama does it?
 
2012-02-07 10:02:31 AM  
It's better to let the system collapse under its own weight than take the political risk of trying to fix it.

Politics 101, people. Old people vote.
 
2012-02-07 10:04:51 AM  
Paul "10% annual growth with 2% unemployment is totally realistic" Ryan, you scamp.
 
2012-02-07 10:06:25 AM  
every now and again, i realize that we have a real, sincere fight in this country about whether children should get healthcare when they're sick, regardless of whether their parents are able to get them insurance or not. Do you realize that? It's a real argument, whether not kids get healthcare. Some people honestly think that children should not be guaranteed healthcare. They can look in the mirror every morning and know that they favor the preventable deaths and oppose the general health and wellness of children.

That's amazing to me.
 
2012-02-07 10:06:51 AM  

bulldg4life: Looks an awful lot like the democrats initial proposal for HCR a few years ago. Is that wrong?


Democrats should have opened with single-payer and settled with HCR with public option. As usual, they opened with the compromise and then compromised again for good measure.
 
2012-02-07 10:07:50 AM  
"Medicare Suicide"? Is that like death panels, but Obama's thugs suggest you're so sick that you should probably kill yourself?
 
2012-02-07 10:07:54 AM  

mrshowrules: bulldg4life: Looks an awful lot like the democrats initial proposal for HCR a few years ago. Is that wrong?

Democrats should have opened with single-payer and settled with HCR with public option. As usual, they opened with the compromise and then compromised again for good measure.


yeah, but their owners wouldn't have liked that.
 
2012-02-07 10:09:13 AM  

CapnBlues: every now and again, i realize that we have a real, sincere fight in this country about whether children should get healthcare when they're sick, regardless of whether their parents are able to get them insurance or not. Do you realize that? It's a real argument, whether not kids get healthcare. Some people honestly think that children should not be guaranteed healthcare. They can look in the mirror every morning and know that they favor the preventable deaths and oppose the general health and wellness of children.

That's amazing to me.


Protection of children starts at conception and goes through to birth. After that and in the words of Jesus, "who gives a fark".
 
2012-02-07 10:09:24 AM  
Ryan: "I have an idea for cutting the budget, lets eliminate Medicare!"
GOP: "Sure, that only really hurts the poors anyway, and they have safety line or nets or something."
Public: "WTF, damn guy?"
GOP: "Wow, that smarts. We'd better come up with something new!"
Ryan: "I have an idea for cutting the budget, lets eliminate Medicare!"
 
2012-02-07 10:09:51 AM  

CapnBlues: mrshowrules: bulldg4life: Looks an awful lot like the democrats initial proposal for HCR a few years ago. Is that wrong?

Democrats should have opened with single-payer and settled with HCR with public option. As usual, they opened with the compromise and then compromised again for good measure.

yeah, but their owners wouldn't have liked that.


true
 
2012-02-07 10:10:02 AM  

CapnBlues: They can look in the mirror every morning and know that they favor the preventable deaths and oppose the general health and wellness of children.


That's the beauty of capitalism. Everyone gets what they deserve.
 
2012-02-07 10:10:59 AM  
Hmmm... Co-sponsored by Wyden, eh?

Going to defer my disappoint until I know more about it.

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2012-02-07 10:11:29 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Paul "10% annual growth with 2% unemployment is totally realistic" Ryan, you scamp.


The GOP has got to get him out of anything associated with budget planning.

If he gets much more toxic he's going to develop superpowers.
 
2012-02-07 10:11:33 AM  

sprawl15: Ryan: "I have an idea for cutting the budget, lets eliminate Medicare!"
GOP: "Sure, that only really hurts the poors anyway, and they have safety line or nets or something."
Public: "WTF, damn guy?"
GOP: "Wow, that smarts. We'd better come up with something new!"
Ryan: "I have an idea for cutting the budget, lets eliminate Medicare!"


He keeps reliving his term and he has to do everything right to screw the poor or time will never get out of that loop.
 
2012-02-07 10:12:24 AM  
Please continue to try and fark with the single most popular government program in the country. Nothing would be better than to try to do this symbolic gesture. And for the love of God, you better make sure your point man, Mitt Romney, is out there on the campaign trail advocating for this. Make it clear to America that if a Republican President is elected, the first act in office will be to radically restructure Medicare.
 
2012-02-07 10:13:03 AM  

Sock Ruh Tease: Is that like death panels, but Obama's thugs suggest you're so sick that you should probably kill yourself?



i.huffpost.com

Let Him Die! Let Him Die! Let Him Die!
 
2012-02-07 10:13:52 AM  

hillbillypharmacist: CapnBlues: They can look in the mirror every morning and know that they favor the preventable deaths and oppose the general health and wellness of children.

That's the beauty of capitalism. Everyone gets what they deserve.


Which explains why Beck, Palin, and Santorum each had a kid that came out overcooked.
Yay, capitalism. Or was it karma?
 
2012-02-07 10:17:55 AM  
It was the best way they could think of to send some money to their donors at the health insurance companies.
 
2012-02-07 10:19:42 AM  
Gonna ride their "free" hoveround power scooters down to the public park over public sidewalks to the demonstration and demand that government keep its dirty mitts off their Medicare!
 
2012-02-07 10:20:11 AM  
In defense of Ryan, he's just listening to his constituents:

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-02-07 10:21:52 AM  

Kuroshin: In defense of Ryan, he's just listening to his constituents:

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NO
TELEPROMPTER
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the fark
 
2012-02-07 10:22:35 AM  

Kuroshin: In defense of Ryan, he's just listening to his constituents:

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 400x265]


If time travel were possible, I would go back and kill Jonas Salk. Too many idiots survived because of his vaccine.
 
2012-02-07 10:23:42 AM  
TPM is really overstating the "backlash" that republicans received. Democrats can't do PR like that. They can't say "republicans are trying to kill medicare" because the media, the general public, whoever isn't going to believe them. The republicans know how to sell, and it's only after they've sold something broken does the general public consider the alternative.
 
2012-02-07 10:24:01 AM  
oh, i misread it as "medicaid" not "medicare." I'm actually kind of okay with curtailing medicare coverage. focus more on keeping people comfortable than on trying to get them back to their healthy 30-year-old selves. Seriously, my fiancee's grandma had a hip replacement last year. She's like 85 or 90, and they put her through a hip replacement! She's a tough old bird and made it through just fine, but who looks at an 85 year old person and says "hey, we're gonna cut your body open, saw off part of a bone, replace it with titanium, and then sew you back up and hope for the best!" Other than the world's shiattiest supervillain trying to build the world's shiattiest cyborg army.
 
2012-02-07 10:24:25 AM  
Anyone under 40 who thinks that Medicare will ever help them is delusional.

Medicare and Social Security have one purpose. To drain every last cent from Gen X and the Millenials to pay for Baby Boomer Carnival Cruise trips while providing a slush fund for Congressmen to buy votes.

/how could the Baby Boomers have possibly anticipated growing old and infirm! They were supposed to stay young forever!
 
2012-02-07 10:25:04 AM  
They're not going to kill Medicare. Just so no doctor will want to swim in that pool anymore.

i229.photobucket.com
 
2012-02-07 10:25:38 AM  
Paul Ryan also forces his wife to dress up as Ayn Rand in the sack. That's the only thing that will get him off anymore.

Paul Ryan also owns a semen stained copy of "Atlas Shrugged" to look at when he needs to "take care of himself". Not for the rape scenes though. Too graphic for Paul's sensitive little eyes.

Paul Ryan also has a model train set that he routinely stomps on after he's read his rather sticky copy of "Atlas Shrugged". Unlike other HO scale train owners, he won't give you imitation crab meat as even though he has too much, he refuses to give the precious fake meat if you "don't earn it"
 
2012-02-07 10:26:24 AM  

The GOP is so dumb. It's like they didn't get the message of the 2010 elections.

upload.wikimedia.org


Oh wait....
 
2012-02-07 10:28:11 AM  

SevenizGud: The GOP is so dumb. It's like they didn't get the message of the 2010 elections.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 640x336]

Oh wait....


and why they have a current approval rating that's just to the north of brussel sprouts, prostate exams, and Kid Rock.
 
2012-02-07 10:29:03 AM  

SevenizGud: The GOP is so dumb. It's like they didn't get the message of the 2010 elections.


Yep, they ran on a medicare killing platform for that election. Oh wait..
 
2012-02-07 10:29:19 AM  

sprawl15: Kuroshin: In defense of Ryan, he's just listening to his constituents:

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 400x265]

NO
TELEPROMPTER
HERE
ONLY TEA
\o/
|
/\

the fark


A hundred years from now some history teacher is going to have to explain to his class why a movement was fighting against high taxes in a period of historically freaking low taxes, high debt and while tax were in fact being cut further. An anti-socialist movement wanted to protect their socialized health care. Concerned with the debt and spending but against cuts to a defense budget several times larger than the rest of the world's military combined.

I don't envy that teacher.
 
2012-02-07 10:30:04 AM  

stoli n coke: SevenizGud: The GOP is so dumb. It's like they didn't get the message of the 2010 elections.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 640x336]

Oh wait....

and why they have a current approval rating that's just to the north of brussel sprouts, prostate exams, and Kid Rock.


that's not being very fair to brussels sprouts. roasted in the oven with salt, pepper, and oil, they're actually pretty tasty. You just have to cook the hell out of them.

and prostate exams? Man, if you're just a little open-minded.... nevermind.
 
2012-02-07 10:30:45 AM  
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2012-02-07 10:32:29 AM  

mrshowrules: A hundred years from now some history teacher is going to have to explain to his class why a movement was fighting against high taxes in a period of historically freaking low taxes, high debt and while tax were in fact being cut further. An anti-socialist movement wanted to protect their socialized health care. Concerned with the debt and spending but against cuts to a defense budget several times larger than the rest of the world's military combined.

I don't envy that teacher.


I do. That would be fun. "No no, you gotta hear the best part. There was this thing that drunk guys did at parties where they put their scrota on each other's passed-out faces, it was called teabagging. And this crazy political movement actually called themselves that at first! They called themselves TEABAGGERS!"

I also assume that by the, deregulation will make it okay to talk filth to high school students. It may even be legal to have sex with them, provided you don't use protection of any kind.
 
2012-02-07 10:32:33 AM  

stoli n coke: SevenizGud: The GOP is so dumb. It's like they didn't get the message of the 2010 elections.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 640x336]

Oh wait....

and why they have a current approval rating that's just to the north of brussel sprouts, prostate exams, and Kid Rock.


Or getting a prostate exam from Kid Rock with a Brussels sprout .
 
2012-02-07 10:33:48 AM  

beta_plus: Anyone under 40 who thinks that Medicare will ever help them is delusional.

Medicare and Social Security have one purpose. To drain every last cent from Gen X and the Millenials to pay for Baby Boomer Carnival Cruise trips while providing a slush fund for Congressmen to buy votes.

/how could the Baby Boomers have possibly anticipated growing old and infirm! They were supposed to stay young forever!


We must destroy it to save it. RON PAUL!
 
2012-02-07 10:34:52 AM  
Republicans voting to end Medicare is the 2011 "Lie of the Year"(R) , and it will be true every year until they finally do end it.
 
2012-02-07 10:36:18 AM  

Headso: SevenizGud: The GOP is so dumb. It's like they didn't get the message of the 2010 elections.

Yep, they ran on a medicare killing platform for that election. Oh wait..


You are right. They actually ran on the "Obama is the other side" platform.
 
2012-02-07 10:36:31 AM  

CapnBlues: every now and again, i realize that we have a real, sincere fight in this country about whether children should get healthcare when they're sick, regardless of whether their parents are able to get them insurance or not. Do you realize that? It's a real argument, whether not kids get healthcare. Some people honestly think that children should not be guaranteed healthcare. They can look in the mirror every morning and know that they favor the preventable deaths and oppose the general health and wellness of children.

That's amazing to me.


The GOP only care about children if they're an unborn fetus.
Once they're born, and living in society, fark 'em.
 
2012-02-07 10:37:20 AM  
The reason it's called an entitlement, douchebag, is that people have paid for 40 or so years into the FICA system, so are ENTITLED to getting their trust funds back...
 
2012-02-07 10:38:15 AM  

stoli n coke: SevenizGud: The GOP is so dumb. It's like they didn't get the message of the 2010 elections.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 640x336]

Oh wait....

and why they have a current approval rating that's just to the north of brussel sprouts, prostate exams, and Kid Rock.


Brussel sprouts aren't that bad

/agree on the other two, though
 
2012-02-07 10:38:48 AM  

beerrun: CapnBlues: every now and again, i realize that we have a real, sincere fight in this country about whether children should get healthcare when they're sick, regardless of whether their parents are able to get them insurance or not. Do you realize that? It's a real argument, whether not kids get healthcare. Some people honestly think that children should not be guaranteed healthcare. They can look in the mirror every morning and know that they favor the preventable deaths and oppose the general health and wellness of children.

That's amazing to me.

The GOP only care about children if they're an unborn fetus.
Once they're born, and living in society, fark 'em.


I just wonder if their voters realize what they're really voting for. I don't think they even think it through that far. Like, the fetuses they're trying to turn into babies... those babies turn into children with real healthcare needs, I don't think they really consider it that far. This is where conservatives are just stupid. Really. It's a flat-out lack of mental capacity to consider the issues beyond the most basic terms. I'm done trying to sugarcoat it or think of it in any other terms. The leaders are evil, the voters are stupid.
 
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