A damn shame. In my opinion they were the best. But you can't blame them for getting cold feet. The spotlight has been on them and, after seeing what happened with Megaupload, they got out before they were caught out.

Ooooh, better watch out, Anonymous is gonna shutdown somebody's website for a couple minutes if we're not careful.

In before "people still use torrents? Newsgroups are a billion times better"

So have we managed to outlaw a technology/business model?

HotWingConspiracy: So have we managed to outlaw a technology/business model?

ugh, guess it's back to bootleg dvds. they just dont have the selection, though. All cams of current movies. I can't get Jeopardy episodes, not at the nearest flea market anyway

And when torrents disappear, something else will take it's place.


Hollywood - you're doing it wrong.

cman: FenixStorm1: In before "people still use torrents? Newsgroups are a billion times better"

Pfft..

Gnutella network all the way

What's this Kazaa thing I've been hearing about?

HotWingConspiracy: So have we managed to outlaw a technology/business model?

Yep.

No matter that the technology is analogous to our highway system.
But, you know... thieves use roads. Imagine how wonderful our society would be if we start applying this surge of persecution to our roads and highways. Assume every car is carrying contraband, assume every home harbors stolen goods, and assume every driver is guilty until they settle out of court to get their license back.

Further, start closing down sections of the highway that have been used for criminal activity (driving from the scene of the crime), even though that usage may amount to .00XX% of the total utilization.

Don't forget the gas stations that serve those thieving motorist, better close them down too.

Fortunately, we have the MPAA and RIAA to police our inter-tubes, otherwise entertainment would cease to exist as we know it.

FTFA:
"BTJunkie was not known to be the target of a similar investigation"
"Its anonymous operator"
"We've been fighting for years for your right to communicate, but it's time to move on..."
"This is the end of the line my friends," it says. "The decision has not come easy, but we've decided to voluntarily shut down."

After careful analysis of tfa and eveything mr. anonymous had to say about his decision, I belive I can say with a fair amount of accuracy that he is a great big coward who concern for a free internet does not extend beyond his bank account.

Now there may be unseen circumstances such as death threats from mpaa supporters or name calling and other harsh language directed at him/her but until such serious threats are brought to light, I'm stickin' with yellow bellied, low down, snake in the grass coward.
Isohunt is a much better site, anyway, and run by a nice Canadian boy. Also, not sure if allowed to do this but since there is no money involved, anyone need a demonoid invite? Send me a p.m.

@BHShaman, very nice analogy. I hadn't heard that one yet but it is perfectly parallel to the issue.

Screw BTJunkie, nobody seems to be saying anything about Cheggit shutting down.

Ohlookabutterfly: FTFA:
"BTJunkie was not known to be the target of a similar investigation"
"Its anonymous operator"
"We've been fighting for years for your right to communicate, but it's time to move on..."
"This is the end of the line my friends," it says. "The decision has not come easy, but we've decided to voluntarily shut down."

After careful analysis of tfa and eveything mr. anonymous had to say about his decision, I belive I can say with a fair amount of accuracy that he is a great big coward who concern for a free internet does not extend beyond his bank account.

Now there may be unseen circumstances such as death threats from mpaa supporters or name calling and other harsh language directed at him/her but until such serious threats are brought to light, I'm stickin' with yellow bellied, low down, snake in the grass coward.
Isohunt is a much better site, anyway, and run by a nice Canadian boy. Also, not sure if allowed to do this but since there is no money involved, anyone need a demonoid invite? Send me a p.m.

DON'T USE DEMONOID


I got a C&D citing them as my tracker just the other day. They've been compromised.

Sick and Tired of Being Sick and Tired: Screw BTJunkie, nobody seems to be saying anything about Cheggit shutting down.

Everybody is finally jacking to all the porn they were hoarding.

FenixStorm1: In before "people still use torrents? Newsgroups are a billion times better"

I've used newsgroups before there were torrents...
And IRC before that.

Almet: Sick and Tired of Being Sick and Tired: Screw BTJunkie, nobody seems to be saying anything about Cheggit shutting down.

Everybody is finally jacking to all the porn they were hoarding.

I has a sad ;_;
Browsing for porn torrents satisfied many obsessive-compulsive tendencies above and beyond naughty bits.

Girion47: I got a C&D citing them as my tracker just the other day. They've been compromised.

doesnt that just mean some company put up a torrent and wrote down a list of the seeds IPs?

Ohlookabutterfly: Now there may be unseen circumstances such as death threats from mpaa supporters or name calling and other harsh language directed at him/her but until such serious threats are brought to light, I'm stickin' with yellow bellied, low down, snake in the grass coward.

Well, the way you're bashing someone for covering their ass to not go to prison for years on end and spend the rest of their life handing over every cent they earn, how about you start up your own torrent site? I mean, a hardcore, Chuck Norris loving, biatch-slapping, angry patriot like yourself should have no problem risking years in prison, amiright? Any feds come knocking at your door, you'll just point to your laminated copy of the Constitution hanging on your door and tell them to fark off.

Keep us updated on the trails you blaze, you magnificent, courageous bastard.


Moving on, at the pace this is going, it won't be long before pirating is going to go back to where it started: massive LAN parties held in dimly lit rooms.

Girion47: DON'T USE DEMONOID

I got a C&D citing them as my tracker just the other day. They've been compromised.

Demonoid's fine. Sounds like someone planted a fake torrent as bait, which should be reported to the mods.

Anybody remember Pornholic? Good times...

Gonz: Girion47: DON'T USE DEMONOID

I got a C&D citing them as my tracker just the other day. They've been compromised.

In the immortal words of Jim Carrey in Liar, Liar, "Stop breaking the law, asshole!"

If you don't want to get a C&D, don't engage in behavior that generally is rewarded with a C&D letter. I believe in a free and open internet, I oppose PIPA and SOPA, and I recognize that torrents can be used for valid purposes, like Linux distros. People who steal music and movies threaten my internet. Cut that shiat out.

I just want to watch Doctor Who without commercials, uncut, and without that stupid "My name is Amy Pond" foreword that BBC America added.

DECMATH: Girion47: DON'T USE DEMONOID

I got a C&D citing them as my tracker just the other day. They've been compromised.

Demonoid's fine. Sounds like someone planted a fake torrent as bait, which should be reported to the mods.

Why bother? I just stick to my exclusive tracker now. Have never gotten a C&D there, or download speeds below 1 mb/s

BorgiaGinz: Gonz: Girion47: DON'T USE DEMONOID

I got a C&D citing them as my tracker just the other day. They've been compromised.

In the immortal words of Jim Carrey in Liar, Liar, "Stop breaking the law, asshole!"

If you don't want to get a C&D, don't engage in behavior that generally is rewarded with a C&D letter. I believe in a free and open internet, I oppose PIPA and SOPA, and I recognize that torrents can be used for valid purposes, like Linux distros. People who steal music and movies threaten my internet. Cut that shiat out.

I just want to watch Doctor Who without commercials, uncut, and without that stupid "My name is Amy Pond" foreword that BBC America added.

And I want people on the internet that know the difference between stealing and copyright infringement. Cut That shiat Out.

I pay for media I support, I pirate the crap that comes out in between the releases I want to pay for. Its the perfect a la carte system for consumption I've always wanted.

Gonz: In the immortal words of Jim Carrey in Liar, Liar, "Stop breaking the law, asshole!"

It isn't difficult, really. People are just cheap and feel like they're entitled to get everything for free.

In about year the entertainment industry is going to realize what a huge mistake they made. It's going to be super funny.

RoxtarRyan: Gonz: In the immortal words of Jim Carrey in Liar, Liar, "Stop breaking the law, asshole!"

It isn't difficult, really. People are just cheap and feel like they're entitled to get everything for free.

Is this the part where we jump on your ass and cite no less than FOUR separate recent surveys that show that content downloaders own more legal copyrighted material purchases on average than non-downloaders? Or maybe you'd like to hear it from a copyright holder himself. (new window) Be sure to see the other non-anecdotal links for proof that copyright violators aren't thieves, they're just "Try it before you buy it" people in a post brick-&-mortar store world.

Gonz: Girion47: DON'T USE DEMONOID

I got a C&D citing them as my tracker just the other day. They've been compromised.

In the immortal words of Jim Carrey in Liar, Liar, "Stop breaking the law, asshole!"

If you don't want to get a C&D, don't engage in behavior that generally is rewarded with a C&D letter. I believe in a free and open internet, I oppose PIPA and SOPA, and I recognize that torrents can be used for valid purposes, like Linux distros. People who steal music and movies threaten my internet. Cut that shiat out.

The fact that the only thing you could think of was Linux distros shows that torrents are only good for sharing movies and music. Maybe the user-as-host concept could improve sites like youtube and netflix.

RoxtarRyan: Gonz: In the immortal words of Jim Carrey in Liar, Liar, "Stop breaking the law, asshole!"

It isn't difficult, really. People are just cheap and feel like they're entitled to get everything for free.

No, people are lazy and don't like artificial delays/ blackouts. Same day digital distribution would be a win-win for everyone. The business model is well established, Steam and Itunes rake in money. Have sales, specials, bundles, etc.

BTJunkie was not known to be the target of a similar investigation, although it was listed as a rogue website by entertainment industry bodies and banned from appearing in Google search results.

wait, banned from google? by whom and how?

BorgiaGinz: I just want to watch Doctor Who without commercials, uncut, and without that stupid "My name is Amy Pond" foreword that BBC America added.

You're not a special snowflake, and you can watch a few minutes of commercials just like everyone else. That's how they get the money to make the show you're enjoying.

moothemagiccow: The fact that the only thing you could think of was Linux distros shows that torrents are only good for sharing movies and music. Maybe the user-as-host concept could improve sites like youtube and netflix.

The amount of unauthorized copyrighted content on Youtube probably outweighs bittorrent traffic.

I might be ok with sharing my bandwidth with Netflix, but not for free. Also, wait until the MPAA finds out that all Netflix users are also distributors of their content...

moothemagiccow: The fact that the only thing you could think of was Linux distros shows that torrents are only good for sharing movies and music.

Pffff. There are TomTom map updates, operating systems for all platforms, e-books, foreign TV shows and news magazines, hacking tools, hacking defense tools, movies that haven't been seen on broadcast TV in decades and are unavailable on DVD, and that's just what's loaded in my client right now.

InmanRoshi: BorgiaGinz: I just want to watch Doctor Who without commercials, uncut, and without that stupid "My name is Amy Pond" foreword that BBC America added.

You're not a special snowflake, and you can watch a few minutes of commercials just like everyone else. That's how they get the money to make the show you're enjoying.

if he's anything like me, he'd be willing to *pay* for being able to watch things without commercials, uncut, and without stupid extra things. like you can with a dvd, except not having to wait for an outdated distribution system to get around to making it available.

burndtdan: if he's anything like me, he'd be willing to *pay* for being able to watch things without commercials, uncut, and without stupid extra things. like you can with a dvd, except not having to wait for an outdated distribution system to get around to making it available.

That's nice and all, but there isn't likely enough of you to make a *pay* model viable to re-invent a perfectly viable commercial model. Once again, you're not a special little snowflake, you're just one of millions consuming a product, and the wheel doesn't needs to be reinvented just to cater to your particular whims and fancies.

RoxtarRyan: Ohlookabutterfly: Now there may be unseen circumstances such as death threats from mpaa supporters or name calling and other harsh language directed at him/her but until such serious threats are brought to light, I'm stickin' with yellow bellied, low down, snake in the grass coward.

Well, the way you're bashing someone for covering their ass to not go to prison for years on end and spend the rest of their life handing over every cent they earn, how about you start up your own torrent site? I mean, a hardcore, Chuck Norris loving, biatch-slapping, angry patriot like yourself should have no problem risking years in prison, amiright? Any feds come knocking at your door, you'll just point to your laminated copy of the Constitution hanging on your door and tell them to fark off.

Keep us updated on the trails you blaze, you magnificent, courageous bastard.


Moving on, at the pace this is going, it won't be long before pirating is going to go back to where it started: massive LAN parties held in dimly lit rooms.

Typical holier-than-thou american douche assumes everyone else in the world is an american. Go wipe your arse with that constitution, you halfwit, that's all it's good for these days anyways. I suppose I could explain the many ways your comments are wrong, but you wouldn't listen because you know better than everybody else, because you are an american, amiright?

burndtdan: InmanRoshi: BorgiaGinz: I just want to watch Doctor Who without commercials, uncut, and without that stupid "My name is Amy Pond" foreword that BBC America added.

You're not a special snowflake, and you can watch a few minutes of commercials just like everyone else. That's how they get the money to make the show you're enjoying.

if he's anything like me, he'd be willing to *pay* for being able to watch things without commercials, uncut, and without stupid extra things. like you can with a dvd, except not having to wait for an outdated distribution system to get around to making it available.

DVD's force previews and FBI warnings on you, downloaded content doesn't.

InmanRoshi: you're just one of millions consuming a product, and the wheel doesn't needs to be reinvented just to cater to your particular whims and fancies.

Well, if you want my money it does. Move ON! If you want to sell me a new car, you better let me configure it the way _I_ want, if you want to sell me cable TV, you better let me pick the channels _I_ want, if you want to sell me anyway, it better be something _I_ want and _I_ want to spend money on, otherwise you're just pissing away your ad budget, and I'm obtaining what _I_ want through other channels, for substantially less money.

HotWingConspiracy: So have we managed to outlaw a technology/business model?

Theft has been illegal for thousands of years.

Cue the "buh but it's noooooot theft" lackwits...

burndtdan: InmanRoshi: BorgiaGinz: I just want to watch Doctor Who without commercials, uncut, and without that stupid "My name is Amy Pond" foreword that BBC America added.

You're not a special snowflake, and you can watch a few minutes of commercials just like everyone else. That's how they get the money to make the show you're enjoying.

if he's anything like me, he'd be willing to *pay* for being able to watch things without commercials, uncut, and without stupid extra things. like you can with a dvd, except not having to wait for an outdated distribution system to get around to making it available.

My DVD/Blu-Ray library runs to nearly 2,000 titles (and that's just average for serious cinephiles), and I have HD cable at home. I definitely pay for what I watch.

What I won't pay for is content that has been bastardized and censored for the US audience.

And to InmanRoshi, TV shows on BBC One are paid for by the British taxpayer and do not depend on revenue from commercials. BBC America does not get funding from the UK government, so it does depend on income from advertising, but as I said, I don't watch their broadcast anyway, so the point is moot.

Gonz: BorgiaGinz: I just want to watch Doctor Who without commercials, uncut, and without that stupid "My name is Amy Pond" foreword that BBC America added.

That's fine. If you want to do that, buy the freakin' series on DVD. Or DVR it and fast-forward. Just don't pirate it. That's not right.

Girion47: And I want people on the internet that know the difference between stealing and copyright infringement. Cut That shiat Out.

I pay for media I support, I pirate the crap that comes out in between the releases I want to pay for. Its the perfect a la carte system for consumption I've always wanted.

I didn't use the word "steal" OR "copyright infringement". I said "behavior that generally is rewarded with a C&D".

It is people like you that encourage things like SOPA and PIPA. It's not me, it's not the MPAA and RIAA, it's you. Your desire to "pirate the crap" is going to fark things up for the rest of us. It's the ultimate in a selfish, entitled attitude. Watch some damn commercials and pay fair market value for your media.

Nah, I enjoy not having to turn my TV down every couple minutes, I also enjoy not having to worry about schedules or channels. What is also awesome, is not having to have an internet connection or disks to play a computer game, I can just simulate a CD drive and mount an ISO on it. Or I can put a file on an external hard drive and play it on my Wii without having to worry about damaging my game disks.

Gonz: BorgiaGinz: I just want to watch Doctor Who without commercials, uncut, and without that stupid "My name is Amy Pond" foreword that BBC America added.

That's fine. If you want to do that, buy the freakin' series on DVD. Or DVR it and fast-forward. Just don't pirate it. That's not right.

Girion47: And I want people on the internet that know the difference between stealing and copyright infringement. Cut That shiat Out.

I pay for media I support, I pirate the crap that comes out in between the releases I want to pay for. Its the perfect a la carte system for consumption I've always wanted.

I didn't use the word "steal" OR "copyright infringement". I said "behavior that generally is rewarded with a C&D".

It is people like you that encourage things like SOPA and PIPA. It's not me, it's not the MPAA and RIAA, it's you. Your desire to "pirate the crap" is going to fark things up for the rest of us. It's the ultimate in a selfish, entitled attitude. Watch some damn commercials and pay fair market value for your media.

You are missing the point. Many of the people that use torrents do so in order to find out if the product is worth the money. Do you buy a car before you test drive it? I for one find that if a movie is so bad I wouldn't pay for it then I won't even watch the copy I dl'd. If it is even mediocre then I'm off to best buy to add it to my huge collection.

I see movies and books in hard copy form almost as a form of currency. The bigger my collection, the richer I feel, and I reread novels many times whether to revisit a wonderful place, or because I usually find new things each time. That is what most true artists want in compensation. Just enough money to live comfortably while they continue to create, and knowing that what they create makes the rest of us feel. Capitalism is the death of expression through art.

Girion47: Ohlookabutterfly: FTFA:
"BTJunkie was not known to be the target of a similar investigation"
"Its anonymous operator"
"We've been fighting for years for your right to communicate, but it's time to move on..."
"This is the end of the line my friends," it says. "The decision has not come easy, but we've decided to voluntarily shut down."

After careful analysis of tfa and eveything mr. anonymous had to say about his decision, I belive I can say with a fair amount of accuracy that he is a great big coward who concern for a free internet does not extend beyond his bank account.

Now there may be unseen circumstances such as death threats from mpaa supporters or name calling and other harsh language directed at him/her but until such serious threats are brought to light, I'm stickin' with yellow bellied, low down, snake in the grass coward.
Isohunt is a much better site, anyway, and run by a nice Canadian boy. Also, not sure if allowed to do this but since there is no money involved, anyone need a demonoid invite? Send me a p.m.

DON'T USE DEMONOID


I got a C&D citing them as my tracker just the other day. They've been compromised.

Do you not use peerblock...?

So what happens when they manage to shut down all file sharing and downloading...and they find that their sales don't improve? Who or what gets the blame, then? Will that make them see that they might need to improve both the product and the distribution model?

Gonz: BorgiaGinz: I just want to watch Doctor Who without commercials, uncut, and without that stupid "My name is Amy Pond" foreword that BBC America added.

That's fine. If you want to do that, buy the freakin' series on DVD. Or DVR it and fast-forward. Just don't pirate it. That's not right.


If you are a UK resident who pays for a television license (which is how the BBC is funded), then you can complain that I piggyback on content you pay for.

I also watch Downton Abbey on PBS. I've never contributed to PBS--am I stealing content?