Illegal workers working for under minimum wage is only half the problem. The other half is bringing manufacturing back from China.

Hillbillies live in the hills. There aren't many hills in Alabama. They're white trash, rednecks, hicks, or as we in St. Louis inexplicably call people of that nature, hoosiers.

Boo farking hoo.

People who appreciate law and order and the Constitution are now second class citizens.

Considering that the government pays farmers to not even grow fields of produce for fear of overproduction, I don't see how losing their workers is that big of a deal. Obviously they aren't paying their employees enough and the supply is way out-pacing the demand.

elchip: Hillbillies live in the hills. There aren't many hills in Alabama. They're white trash, rednecks, hicks, or as we in St. Louis inexplicably call people of that nature, hoosiers.

This.

God I hate racist people who generalize and insult others just because of their ethnic or socio-economic background.

farking dumbass Alabama rednecks.

Isn't the real problem convincing the urban poor to go out and work in the fields at sub-welfare wages?

Mob rule, how's that working out for you?

/But, but ... STATE'S RIGHTS.

The state that once fought for the right to keep slaves is now known for pushing away workers with spotty legal rights who are willing to work long hours on the field for sub-minimum wage.

How ironic.

Actually nobody in AL is regretting anything. Crime is down, unemployment is down and people are starting to feel safe again. I just hope all the illegals dont come to MS we have way to many as it is.

doubled99: God I hate racist people who generalize and insult others just because of their ethnic or socio-economic background.

farking dumbass Alabama rednecks submitter.

ftfy

DempseySR26: Actually nobody in AL is regretting anything. Crime is down, unemployment is down and people are starting to feel safe again. I just hope all the illegals dont come to MS we have way to many as it is.

Maybe the people who used to exploit them are missing them but the average 'man on the street' isn't.

Good luck getting the harvest in.

When does that start for Alabama? May?

"If people begin to cave from political pressure, that donors want something changed, they'll have to do it against the vast majority of the people in their district and go with the small special-interest group that makes their decision based on profit," Beason says.

In a poll conducted last week, 42 percent of respondents said they support the law but think it goes too far.


GOP Math?

of course they are not regretting anything... the effects are not enough to be really felt yet... but give it time...

You wanted this AL.... choke on it...

Trackball: People who appreciate law and order and the Constitution are now second class citizens.

You forgot this:

Subby's condescension and derpiness is strong today.

Pay living wages you cheap bastards. I can only hope this law or one like it comes to New jersey. It isnt just jobs out in the field, every level of construction is completely dominated by illegals working for very low wages.

SuperTramp: As an Alabama tomato farmer said last fall, "if you want to solve the immigration problem, quit eating."

He could do his part an pay a living wage. Of course sacrifices and following the law is only for the little people.

doubled99: God I hate racist people who generalize and insult others just because of their ethnic or socio-economic background.

farking dumbass Alabama rednecks.

As a deliberately ironic statement I've seen much better, but apparently even this was too much for a lot of people in this thread to grasp.

payattention: of course they are not regretting anything... the effects are not enough to be really felt yet... but give it time...

You wanted this AL.... choke on it...

Yeah, and what's all that noise about closing down "sweatshops" or stopping "child labor" or "abolition". Don't they know that it'll cause unemployment and stagnate the economy?

I'd be interested to read the story behind the MB exec and the Honda worker.

"Hilson says there's no way to know how much business the state is losing, but researchers at the University of Alabama peg the cost at up to $11 billion in lost jobs and income- and sales-tax revenues."

Huh. Only cost 11 billion dollars to transplant illegal immigrants to another state. I bet it would have been cheaper to start naturalizing all of them, preserving the workforce and probably increasing tax revenue.

This is a perfect example of the damage that illegal immigration does to our country. The general population now considers some work to be beneath them. We are once again a country surviving on slave labor.
We have lost our work ethic and the concept that you should take pride in earning your own way rather than accepting a handout.

Dozens of protesters huh ?

Bwahahaha

God that's a massive grassroots movement. Yeah it looks like they really have buyers remorse. 24 people are outraged.

jaayjones: This is a perfect example of the damage that illegal immigration does to our country. The general population now considers some work to be beneath them. We are once again a country surviving on slave labor.
We have lost our work ethic and the concept that you should take pride in earning your own way rather than accepting a handout.

welfare +food stamps and whatever else probably pay more than these "businessmen" are willing to pay now because they like the profit margins. Those "fields" are untended because of pure greed. It isnt just field work, 90% of illegals do not work in "field work"

Girion47: Considering that the government pays farmers to not even grow fields of produce for fear of overproduction, I don't see how losing their workers is that big of a deal. Obviously they aren't paying their employees enough and the supply is way out-pacing the demand.

I see this in every single thread on Fark that is even tangentially related to farming. That's mostly a relic of the past. There are still a few programs out there that will allow you to get money for not "farming" land, but they are pretty narrow in scope, have fairly stringent requirements, and typically only apply to ground that is at risk of erosion, contamination, etc. (for example, prairie wetlands). There are not vast swatches of the breadbasket just lying fallow while the farmer sits on the couch and collects that sweet, sweet government cash. That's not to say that government subsidies don't exist, but they don't typically go to small vegetable farmers. They go to massive, corporate owned corn farms that don't need them in the first place. Don't forget, we have the best government that money can buy, and they don't care any more about small farmers than they do about small business owners.

Unemployment is dropping like a rock in Alabama and the same thing happened in Oklahoma when they cracked down on illegal immigrants.

I'll bet that's really pissing off voters. Everybody knows voters love high unemployment.

NtropiK: "Hilson says there's no way to know how much business the state is losing, but researchers at the University of Alabama peg the cost at up to $11 billion in lost jobs and income- and sales-tax revenues."

Huh. Only cost 11 billion dollars to transplant illegal immigrants to another state. I bet it would have been cheaper to start naturalizing all of them, preserving the workforce and probably increasing tax revenue.

Yeah, that's what Regan should have done. It would have completely solved the problem and in no way caused an escalating issue over the next 20 years.

elchip: Hillbillies live in the hills. There aren't many hills in Alabama. They're white trash, rednecks, hicks, or as we in St. Louis inexplicably call people of that nature, hoosiers.

North Alabama, where farmers have been hit particularly hard by this bill, is very hilly.

SuperTramp: Brostorm
He could do his part an pay a living wage. Of course sacrifices and following the law is only for the little people.

Maybe you wouldn't mind paying $5.00 for a tomato, but I sure would.


Warlordtrooper
Or we can punish people who hire them. Multimillion dollar fines for each illegal. Per month of employment People who hire for personal projects not business should face life without parole

Doesn't solve the problem of crops rotting in the fields. Americans simply don't want to do this kind of back-breaking work, and that's what farmers have been reporting.

Labor is just one part of cost of a product.Those are scare tactics of big business making tons in profit margins. The market sets the price of goods.

SuperTramp: Maybe you wouldn't mind paying $5.00 for a tomato, but I sure would.

It costs an extra $4.25 to pluck a tomato now?

God forbid that the agricultural reform its labor practices so that legal workers can get a living wage, you need save $.25 on produce!

give me doughnuts: doubled99: God I hate racist people who generalize and insult others just because of their ethnic or socio-economic background.

farking dumbass Alabama rednecks.

I just hate people who sneak into my country.

Like Mitt Romney's great grandfather?

Brostorm: jaayjones: This is a perfect example of the damage that illegal immigration does to our country. The general population now considers some work to be beneath them. We are once again a country surviving on slave labor.
We have lost our work ethic and the concept that you should take pride in earning your own way rather than accepting a handout.

welfare +food stamps and whatever else probably pay more than these "businessmen" are willing to pay now because they like the profit margins. Those "fields" are untended because of pure greed. It isnt just field work, 90% of illegals do not work in "field work"

The figures that I've seen say that only about 5% of illegals work in agriculture. I found those figures in an article on msnbc's website a few years ago and haven't been able to fi nd them since. Would be helpful if somebody could dig them up again.

Let's see how you feel when one kills a family memeber after being released by santuary city dumb farks. Pricey crops or dead family members, hmmmm decisions,decisions

Legalize it

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doubled99: God I hate racist people who generalize and insult others just because of their ethnic or socio-economic background.

farking dumbass Alabama rednecks.

As a deliberately ironic statement I've seen much better, but apparently even this was too much for a lot of people in this thread to grasp



Fark, I am dissapoint.


/not really

DempseySR26: Actually nobody in AL is regretting anything. Crime is down, unemployment is down and people are starting to feel safe again. I just hope all the illegals dont come to MS we have way to many as it is.

Crime IS down in Alabama, but it has been trending down since 2009. It has nothing to do with this bill. Property crimes, though, have been on the rise lately.