Nice one subby.

they reallly ought to hang

gopher321: "Gentlemen...to evil!" *raises glass*

Ice to meet you...

What BP really needs is more money from our government. You know, so they don't make gas expensive.

/Hot
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Have you guys stopped buying gas yet?

Mirrorz: But BP Spent tens of dollars making commercials telling us the gulf was Ok...

something about those i wondered. the BP employees who are from those areas, I wonder what upper management told them to get them to do those spots. "do it or your fired or never will get that promotion" etc.
another thing it says the us lifted the ban on drilling in 2011 in the gulf. How much of the gulf does the us own? I mean after a point you would go south and end up in Mexico.

Farking criminals. The oil industry has been crowing about how we are now exporting more refined petroleum products than we import for the first time in 60 years. We're glutted with gas. Yet the price of gas in my area has gone up by 22 cents/gal in two weeks. Their excuse this time is (spins wheel) that people are using less gas, so they have to increase their prices to keep revenues up so that production will remain steady.

CravenMorehead: What BP really needs is more money from our government. You know, so they don't make gas expensive.

We really need to apologize to BP for gettin our water all over their oil.

When you make that much money you can do whatever the hell you want. We all know this, but we always act surprised.

Of course we could try to something about it. Anything really. Just start small, get the awareness out. Maybe start a protest. Oh, right, we can't do that; only lazy good-for-nothing hipsters protest. Ah well. I'm sure somebody else will do something about it.

I KNEW buying BP stock when it tanked during the spill was a good idea.

/ removes clothes
// jumps into pile of money

fark YOU BP PAY MY CLAIM YOU farkING BASTARDS!

It was Halliburton and Transocean who ran the rig, not BP. BP just bought 60% of the output. Don't hear anyone crying for their blood, but then they are American companies. Union Carbide gave $2000 each to the surviving Bhopal victims after a protracted court case. Injured an estimated 40,000. There are other companies which are more evil.

dervish16108: CravenMorehead: What BP really needs is more money from our government. You know, so they don't make gas expensive.

We really need to apologize to BP for gettin our water all over their oil.


Good point. And they should get damages for all the thousands of gallons of oil they lost because the stupid wildlife soaked it all up.

Is the Gulf still in bad shape? It's hard to ge a straight answer from either side because there's always money to be made one way or another depending on the spin...

anarchy_x: fark YOU BP PAY MY CLAIM YOU farkING BASTARDS!

Let me guess ... you were a "cash" business and never filed any tax returns so you couldn't prove what you "lost" and are now pissed the evil gubmint and BP stole all your money. Sorry, that's what business insurance is for ... Ug, I hate half the people crying about never getting their claims paid when they can't even reliably prove what they made in the last 5 tax years.

Considering all the oil's gone, seems like the Gulf is doing ok... my parents just went on vacation down there, and everything seems to be normal.

Not that BP shouldn't burn in hell, but still.

jimmyjackfunk: How much of the gulf does the us own? I mean after a point you would go south and end up in Mexico.

I'm guessing as much as the Mexican Navy will allow us to have?

Mirrorz: But BP Spent tens of dollars making commercials telling us the gulf was Ok...

If I can't believe a business owner who depends on Gulf tourism to tell me that the Gulf is fine, then who can I believe?

cptrelentless: It was Halliburton and Transocean who ran the rig, not BP. BP just bought 60% of the output. Don't hear anyone crying for their blood, but then they are American companies. Union Carbide gave $2000 each to the surviving Bhopal victims after a protracted court case. Injured an estimated 40,000. There are other companies which are more evil.

So vote Republican. Because we haven't drained the well of evil yet.

In 2000 a barrel of oil was $17.00
In 2001, gasoline was an average $1.40/gal
In 2011, gasoline was an average $3.50/gal
Today a barrel of oil cost $115.00

Can we hear it from the Mission Accomplished crowd.
Go shopping comrades. Ignore those Occupy protesters, what do they know of capitalism?

Satyagraha: In 2000 a barrel of oil was $17.00
In 2001, gasoline was an average $1.40/gal
In 2011, gasoline was an average $3.50/gal
Today a barrel of oil cost $115.00

Can we hear it from the Mission Accomplished crowd.
Go shopping comrades. Ignore those Occupy protesters, what do they know of capitalism?

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Ummm, that proves that cost per end-user unit went down ... Which is why I just don't give a damn about gas prices ... drive what you want, how you want, at whatever MPG you so choose ... I do 35-40k miles a year in a car that does 21mpg and you don't see me biatchin' ...

DoBeDoBeDo: jimmyjackfunk: How much of the gulf does the us own? I mean after a point you would go south and end up in Mexico.

I'm guessing as much as the Mexican Navy will allow us to have?

ha no but seriously does the whole international waters thing apply to the gulf? I know these rigs aren't right up next to the shore they are several miles out. I just thought it sounded odd that the us could say, no more drilling in the gulf when Mexico borders part of the gulf as well and i will have to check but i am pretty sure there might be one or two more smaller countries that have shoreline on the gulf as well.

i thought someone was going to put a boot on someone's neck????

seadoo2006: anarchy_x: fark YOU BP PAY MY CLAIM YOU farkING BASTARDS!

Let me guess ... you were a "cash" business and never filed any tax returns so you couldn't prove what you "lost" and are now pissed the evil gubmint and BP stole all your money. Sorry, that's what business insurance is for ... Ug, I hate half the people crying about never getting their claims paid when they can't even reliably prove what they made in the last 5 tax years.

um no, I run a completely above board pc sales and outsourced IT company. We experienced massive losses due to the economy here taking a big shiat when the spill wiped out the tourist season. I can prove every bit of it, but they do not consider my company to be 'an effected business' despite proof of canceled contracts and significantly reduced profit. Lawyers are now involved, and you sir, are a jackass.

kthanks.

jennyz: Considering all the oil's gone, seems like the Gulf is doing ok... my parents just went on vacation down there, and everything seems to be normal.

Not that BP shouldn't burn in hell, but still.

jenny, the oil is all on the bottom of the gulf waiting for the next hurricane to blow it into downtown nolo.

cptrelentless: It was Halliburton and Transocean who ran the rig, not BP.

It was a Transocean rig operated by BP and Halliburton was the cementing contractor.

Satyagraha: www.brianmerchant.com

Look at that selfish bird soaking up BP's profits.

seadoo2006: Satyagraha: In 2000 a barrel of oil was $17.00
In 2001, gasoline was an average $1.40/gal
In 2011, gasoline was an average $3.50/gal
Today a barrel of oil cost $115.00

Can we hear it from the Mission Accomplished crowd.
Go shopping comrades. Ignore those Occupy protesters, what do they know of capitalism?

[www.brianmerchant.com image 465x286]

Ummm, that proves that cost per end-user unit went down ... Which is why I just don't give a damn about gas prices ... drive what you want, how you want, at whatever MPG you so choose ... I do 35-40k miles a year in a car that does 21mpg and you don't see me biatchin' ...

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Thanks for doing your part to reduce fossil fuel consumption and CO2 output.

jimmyjackfunk: ha no but seriously does the whole international waters thing apply to the gulf? I know these rigs aren't right up next to the shore they are several miles out. I just thought it sounded odd that the us could say, no more drilling in the gulf when Mexico borders part of the gulf as well and i will have to check but i am pretty sure there might be one or two more smaller countries that have shoreline on the gulf as well.

Countries are entitled to claim a 200 mile Economic Exclusion Zone where they have exclusive access to the resources under the sea; they can prohibit commercial fishing, mining, drilling, etc. in that zone.

Outside of that, they would have to exercise control over vessels flying their flag or citizens of their country. In theory, there's nothing the US could do if a Mexican company decided to drill 300 miles off of our shore, the same way Mexico has no say if a US company drills 300 miles of their shore. There may be treaties about it, as well as international court cases or more treaties that govern liability for pollution or spills.

dervish16108: CravenMorehead: What BP really needs is more money from our government. You know, so they don't make gas expensive.

We really need to apologize to BP for gettin our water all over their oil.

Paging Joe Barton! Mr. Joe Barton to the white culpability phone!

So BP made a profit margin of what? 5.03%

Microsoft's is 32%

/I now return you to your false outrage

pedrop357: jimmyjackfunk: ha no but seriously does the whole international waters thing apply to the gulf? I know these rigs aren't right up next to the shore they are several miles out. I just thought it sounded odd that the us could say, no more drilling in the gulf when Mexico borders part of the gulf as well and i will have to check but i am pretty sure there might be one or two more smaller countries that have shoreline on the gulf as well.

Countries are entitled to claim a 200 mile Economic Exclusion Zone where they have exclusive access to the resources under the sea; they can prohibit commercial fishing, mining, drilling, etc. in that zone.

Outside of that, they would have to exercise control over vessels flying their flag or citizens of their country. In theory, there's nothing the US could do if a Mexican company decided to drill 300 miles off of our shore, the same way Mexico has no say if a US company drills 300 miles of their shore. There may be treaties about it, as well as international court cases or more treaties that govern liability for pollution or spills.

So in other words, as much as the Mexican Navy will allow us to have.

misanthropologist: seadoo2006: Satyagraha: In 2000 a barrel of oil was $17.00
In 2001, gasoline was an average $1.40/gal
In 2011, gasoline was an average $3.50/gal
Today a barrel of oil cost $115.00

Can we hear it from the Mission Accomplished crowd.
Go shopping comrades. Ignore those Occupy protesters, what do they know of capitalism?

[www.brianmerchant.com image 465x286]

Ummm, that proves that cost per end-user unit went down ... Which is why I just don't give a damn about gas prices ... drive what you want, how you want, at whatever MPG you so choose ... I do 35-40k miles a year in a car that does 21mpg and you don't see me biatchin' ...

[mefi.us image 500x63]

Thanks for doing your part to reduce fossil fuel consumption and CO2 output.

Give me a brand new, fuel efficient, car I can buy for what my A4 costs to buy an operate. I'll give you a hint: Even if I completely went bonkers and got a car that did 50mpg, I only save ~$3300/year in gas. Amortize that against the cost of buying a new car and you see why hybrids/fuel efficient cars make no sense to me. That and well, I live in the snow belt of Ohio, AWD/4WD is a must to make it to work, and I actually like having a car that doesn't feel cheap on the inside. My Audi fits me for what I use it for and honestly, I can afford the $3300/year more I pay in gas to drive the thing versus a smug-producing Prius.



vs.



I think I'll take the Audi everyday and know that my quattro AWD will get me through any weather Lake Erie decides to throw at me.

Prius interior for comparison ...

seadoo2006: Give me a brand new, fuel efficient, car I can buy for what my A4 costs to buy an operate. I'll give you a hint: Even if I completely went bonkers and got a car that did 50mpg, I only save ~$3300/year in gas. Amortize that against the cost of buying a new car and you see why hybrids/fuel efficient cars make no sense to me. That and well, I live in the snow belt of Ohio, AWD/4WD is a must to make it to work, and I actually like having a car that doesn't feel cheap on the inside. My Audi fits me for what I use it for and honestly, I can afford the $3300/year more I pay in gas to drive the thing versus a smug-producing Prius.

I had one of those. I loved it. Drove the shiat out of that thing in NV and CA...sweet handling on lonely desert/mountain roads.

But I have one of these now. Perfect, for me, for Colorado...AWD/4WD, low-range 4WD/lockable center diff for going off-road. Big, comfortable, and while the fuel price is a bit higher, it's way cleaner than a gas SUV, gets better mileage than a Tahoe hybrid, and does way more than a Ford Escape hybrid. HWY MPG: I get 27-28 MPG, combined around 23MPG. I don't really care about gas prices, because we still have it better than Europe. Except that our roads suck in comparison.

JackieRabbit: Farking criminals. The oil industry has been crowing about how we are now exporting more refined petroleum products than we import for the first time in 60 years. We're glutted with gas. Yet the price of gas in my area has gone up by 22 cents/gal in two weeks. Their excuse this time is (spins wheel) that people are using less gas, so they have to increase their prices to keep revenues up so that production will remain steady.

Believe it or not the refining business typically sucks. Look into the big bad oil industry a bit closer.

anarchy_x: seadoo2006: anarchy_x: fark YOU BP PAY MY CLAIM YOU farkING BASTARDS!

Let me guess ... you were a "cash" business and never filed any tax returns so you couldn't prove what you "lost" and are now pissed the evil gubmint and BP stole all your money. Sorry, that's what business insurance is for ... Ug, I hate half the people crying about never getting their claims paid when they can't even reliably prove what they made in the last 5 tax years.

um no, I run a completely above board pc sales and outsourced IT company. We experienced massive losses due to the economy here taking a big shiat when the spill wiped out the tourist season. I can prove every bit of it, but they do not consider my company to be 'an effected business' despite proof of canceled contracts and significantly reduced profit. Lawyers are now involved, and you sir, are a jackass.

kthanks.

Obama 2012.

anarchy_x: jennyz: Considering all the oil's gone, seems like the Gulf is doing ok... my parents just went on vacation down there, and everything seems to be normal.

Not that BP shouldn't burn in hell, but still.

jenny, the oil is all on the bottom of the gulf waiting for the next hurricane to blow it into downtown nolo.

The solution to pollution is dilution.

cptrelentless: It was Halliburton and Transocean who ran the rig, not BP. BP just bought 60% of the output. Don't hear anyone crying for their blood, but then they are American companies. Union Carbide gave $2000 each to the surviving Bhopal victims after a protracted court case. Injured an estimated 40,000. There are other companies which are more evil.

Not to mention it was exxon mobil who finally fixed leak and did most of the clean up.

bravian: So BP made a profit margin of what? 5.03%

Microsoft's is 32%

/I now return you to your false outrage

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"BP posts $7.6 billion profit in the fourth quarter and $23.9 billion for 2011"

This is why Global Warming is BS.