OtherLittleGuy: Jessica Alba as the Invisible Woman

I much prefer her in Sin City. Well...the version that plays in my head, where she's ACTUALLY a stripper, not just a dancer.

simplicimus: Mole Men? I know it's the starter issue, but why not Namor?

Mole Men have, in almost every FF reboot, been the first enemy, just like Kingpin's one of the first for Spidey.

Mugato: I thought they were making a sequel to that. I thought it was great from a technical standpoint anyway.

Last I heard, it was in development hell.

Ouch. You really know how to hurt a guy, subby.

So it's important to make sure the story is updated with accurate technological representations while they're being mutated by magical space rays. Got it.

Still no explanation of how Americans were launched into space in 1961.

PizzaJedi81: simplicimus: Mole Men? I know it's the starter issue, but why not Namor?

Mole Men have, in almost every FF reboot, been the first enemy, just like Kingpin's one of the first for Spidey.

Kingpin didn't appear until issue #50. He fought the Fantastic Four, Chameleon, Vulture, Tinkerer, Doctor Octopus, Sandman, Lizard, Enforcers, Mysterio, Green Goblin, Kraven, Dardevil, Scorpion, Spider-Slayers, Molten Man, Looter, Rhino, and Shocker (most of them multiple times) before he ever met the Kingpin.

Mugato: PizzaJedi81: I much prefer her in Sin City. Well...the version that plays in my head, where she's ACTUALLY a stripper, not just a dancer.

That was bullshiat. Most of the rest of the film was faithful to the book down to the panel but Alba wouldn't make with the boobies. It'd be one thing if her performance was decent.


Alba - "Hey, Marv. Who's the babe?"

Rodriguez - "You wanna try that line again, Jessica?"

Alba - "Hey, Marv. Who's the babe?"

Rodriguez - "You wanna try that line again, Jessica?"

Alba - "Hey, Marv. Who's the babe?"

Rodriguez - "Fark it, we're moving on."

/worst line delivery ever

I forgot Electro. Shame on me.

Wendy's Chili: PizzaJedi81: simplicimus: Mole Men? I know it's the starter issue, but why not Namor?

Mole Men have, in almost every FF reboot, been the first enemy, just like Kingpin's one of the first for Spidey.

Kingpin didn't appear until issue #50. He fought the Fantastic Four, Chameleon, Vulture, Tinkerer, Doctor Octopus, Sandman, Lizard, Enforcers, Mysterio, Green Goblin, Kraven, Dardevil, Scorpion, Spider-Slayers, Molten Man, Looter, Rhino, and Shocker (most of them multiple times) before he ever met the Kingpin.

Damn it. Spidey-fail. My bad.

PizzaJedi81: simplicimus: Mole Men? I know it's the starter issue, but why not Namor?

Mole Men have, in almost every FF reboot, been the first enemy, just like Kingpin's one of the first for Spidey.



/obscure?

Kind of seems like a non-story... but hey who can hate Marvel comics?

Check out Avengers Academy by Christos Gage, it is flat out one of the best books on the shelves.

How long will it be before people understand that the average superhero comic is dead?

Mugato: but Alba wouldn't make with the boobies.

And now it's too late and there's newer boobies out there and no one really care any more.

Kurmudgeon: Mugato: but Alba wouldn't make with the boobies.

And now it's too late and there's newer boobies out there and no one really care any more.

The ass is still primo, though.

FirstNationalBastard: whizbangthedirtfarmer: How long will it be before people understand that the average superhero comic is dead?

The problem is, it's what the majority of the industry is based on. This isn't like the late-40s, when comics had plenty of other genres to step in to take the place of Superheroes. DC and Marvel have increasingly thrown their lot in with an ever shrinking group of aging superhero fanboys, neglected to create new, younger customers, and created no new characters to rely on in the case of something bad happening, like losing the rights to Superman. When people finally realize that mainstream superhero comics are shiat, and quit buying, that's the end of at least DC and Marvel as publishers, and the comics industry in its current form.

Of course, that might not be a bad thing.

Nope. Image, IDW, Boom! and so on are the publishers who will take over the marketplace. We see comics that are longer-lived if they actually reflect the intelligence of their readers (take the superhero "OH HE'S DEAD! BUY THE ISSUE!/HE'S BACK! BUY THE ISSUE!" stuff that happens every week, it seems) starting to hold their position for longer runs. Marvel and DC have moved more toward the entertainment spectrum. Yeah, they have the comics, but they are essentially a hollow marketing tool for films and toys.

StrangeQ: So it's important to make sure the story is updated with accurate technological representations while they're being mutated by magical space rays. Got it.

HA!

// am I the only person who likes the stories, but the only comic books I've ever owned/read were a collection of reprinted/retold origin stories, The Killing Joke, and parts of Wolverine: Origins and Arkham Asylum?
// like a thinly-read (but half-aware) "comic book geek"

With this:

Maybe Ben Grimm will take Viagra & impale Alicia Masters through the drywall.

FirstNationalBastard: whizbangthedirtfarmer: FirstNationalBastard: whizbangthedirtfarmer: How long will it be before people understand that the average superhero comic is dead?

The problem is, it's what the majority of the industry is based on. This isn't like the late-40s, when comics had plenty of other genres to step in to take the place of Superheroes. DC and Marvel have increasingly thrown their lot in with an ever shrinking group of aging superhero fanboys, neglected to create new, younger customers, and created no new characters to rely on in the case of something bad happening, like losing the rights to Superman. When people finally realize that mainstream superhero comics are shiat, and quit buying, that's the end of at least DC and Marvel as publishers, and the comics industry in its current form.

Of course, that might not be a bad thing.

Nope. Image, IDW, Boom! and so on are the publishers who will take over the marketplace. We see comics that are longer-lived if they actually reflect the intelligence of their readers (take the superhero "OH HE'S DEAD! BUY THE ISSUE!/HE'S BACK! BUY THE ISSUE!" stuff that happens every week, it seems) starting to hold their position for longer runs. Marvel and DC have moved more toward the entertainment spectrum. Yeah, they have the comics, but they are essentially a hollow marketing tool for films and toys.


That's exactly what I meant when I said "end of the comics industry in its current form".

The end of mainstream DC and Marvel would be great for creativity. The problem would be would people start buying new comics that don't star the same old stale characters they were reading about when they were 12?

For the most part, the current fanbase will not take a chance on anything new. Of course, I guess it would be up to the survivors to finally create that new Audience DC and Marvel never cared about.

Well, DC and Marvel, over the past few years, have really tried to go after the kiddie base to keep their products accessible. Superhero Squad, the Brave and the Bold, Imaginext figures, and so on, are all geared to ensure that superhero comics will continue to maintain some visibility on the shelves, which, in turn, will give added incentive to market a property as "hot" and bring in the big bucks in terms of other media deals.

whizbangthedirtfarmer: FirstNationalBastard: whizbangthedirtfarmer: FirstNationalBastard: whizbangthedirtfarmer: How long will it be before people understand that the average superhero comic is dead?

The problem is, it's what the majority of the industry is based on. This isn't like the late-40s, when comics had plenty of other genres to step in to take the place of Superheroes. DC and Marvel have increasingly thrown their lot in with an ever shrinking group of aging superhero fanboys, neglected to create new, younger customers, and created no new characters to rely on in the case of something bad happening, like losing the rights to Superman. When people finally realize that mainstream superhero comics are shiat, and quit buying, that's the end of at least DC and Marvel as publishers, and the comics industry in its current form.

Of course, that might not be a bad thing.

Nope. Image, IDW, Boom! and so on are the publishers who will take over the marketplace. We see comics that are longer-lived if they actually reflect the intelligence of their readers (take the superhero "OH HE'S DEAD! BUY THE ISSUE!/HE'S BACK! BUY THE ISSUE!" stuff that happens every week, it seems) starting to hold their position for longer runs. Marvel and DC have moved more toward the entertainment spectrum. Yeah, they have the comics, but they are essentially a hollow marketing tool for films and toys.


That's exactly what I meant when I said "end of the comics industry in its current form".

The end of mainstream DC and Marvel would be great for creativity. The problem would be would people start buying new comics that don't star the same old stale characters they were reading about when they were 12?

For the most part, the current fanbase will not take a chance on anything new. Of course, I guess it would be up to the survivors to finally create that new Audience DC and Marvel never cared about.

Well, DC and Marvel, over the past few years, have really tried to go after the kiddie base to keep their pro ...



The problem I see with the big two is basically one of marketing and the idiotic idea to go to 'exclusive' deals with companies. I mean, it's right there in the word 'exclusive.' You are excluding part of your audience.

How many more paper comics would they sell if they put a comic rack right next to the Thor and Captain American costumes in Walmart? How many more issues of Green Lantern and Batman would sell if they had a rack right next to the action figures? You go buy a toy for your kid, he sees the comic book and you pick it up for him. Let's go home and read about the cool adventures Cap has in this latest issue.

Traditional capes and cowls superheros are NOT dying off. They're just changing mediums, but if the big two want to keep publishing those weekly and monthly adventures, they're going to have to change their marketing strategies and drag out into the street and shoot the dumbfarks who told them 'exclusivity' was the way to go.

Why can't it be set in the 50/60s? Why does it have to be modernized?

This seems familiar...
...until they muck everything up in the most asinine way possible and let Jeph Loeb in the building.

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This seems familiar...
...until they muck everything up in the most asinine way possible and let Jeph Loeb in the building.

Shhh, they might hear you!

simplicimus: Trocadero: [www.nexternal.com image 300x459]
This seems familiar...
...until they muck everything up in the most asinine way possible and let Jeph Loeb in the building.

OK, who's the fifth character?

Crystal (Unless it's Krystal) of the Inhumans.

Dark Horse is offering Hellboy Volume 1 for free through their app. I found this a day or two after I bought it. Not pleased.

I just got all the major companies' apps. DC's is the best.

Gunny Highway: Dark Horse is offering Hellboy Volume 1 for free through their app. I found this a day or two after I bought it. Not pleased.

I just got all the major companies' apps. DC's is the best.

Eh, I'd rather buy them from my local shop.

PizzaJedi81: Gunny Highway: Dark Horse is offering Hellboy Volume 1 for free through their app. I found this a day or two after I bought it. Not pleased.

I just got all the major companies' apps. DC's is the best.

Eh, I'd rather buy them from my local shop.

They get a lot of my money as is.

lakrfool: Maybe Ben Grimm will take Viagra & impale Alicia Masters through the drywall.

...at least she never saw him it coming.

I guess another earth will be used for the mainstream Marvel universe? It used to be that the Thing before he was the Thing was Captain America's friend during WW2, this was said back in the 70's. Ben Grim fought along side CA. Then in the 90's he didn't and they said that was an alternate earth and the Marvel universe changed after the Spiderman clone saga. I guess it changed again to go along with DC's new 52.

JohnnyAqua: I guess another earth will be used for the mainstream Marvel universe? It used to be that the Thing before he was the Thing was Captain America's friend during WW2, this was said back in the 70's. Ben Grim fought along side CA. Then in the 90's he didn't and they said that was an alternate earth and the Marvel universe changed after the Spiderman clone saga. I guess it changed again to go along with DC's new 52.

You're thinking of The Torch, not Thing. There was a Torch in WW2 that fought alongside Cap, but he was an android. The Fantastic Four weren't created until 1961....about 15 years after Cap and the original Torch had their adventures. I'm not quite sure what you're talking about when you say the universe has changed after Spidey's clone saga. All the main marvel comics, all your spiders and x-people and gods and Avengers have always been in the same universe.

A few years ago, they did come up with the Ultimate Universe, where you get Ultimate Spiderman and UItimate Xmen and the like. They are and have always been completely separate from the main lines.

DC's new 52 reboot has only been going on since September, so they're at best, 6 issues into the new lines. Some of them have been really good, some suck and some are decent. Just like with any offering.

But back to your original statement, the main Marvel Universe (616, if you will) hasn't ever had a line-wide reboot. Some of the guys have been retconned, but it's usually not by a lot. Unless you're talking Spidey's "One More Day" which was almost universally hated.