hubiestubert: MaudlinMutantMollusk: It's not about "choice", it's about "we want vouchers so we can get a slice of that taxpayer pie, too"

Pretty much. "School choice" is bait and switch. It's about getting sweet, sweet, sweet taxpayer cheddar, nothing more...

No, it's about not having to have your kids go to school with "them."

You know what I mean.

You know what would fix our school system? Rich kids stay together in the rich schools, poor kids in the poor schools. Rich kids are just smarter, poor kids shouldn't slow them down. Each school should be mandated to teach the controversy over the theory of evolution, the very plausible arguments from intelligent design, the Bible's historical and continuing benefits to Western civilization and Jesus Christ as a perfect American role model (no direct quotes). Economics will consist of Tax Cuts and the limitless wellspring of jobs that are created from them, and the evil oppression of communist social programs that, frankly, kill jobs and make the ghost of Reagan cry. Sexual Education will be abolished in its entirety and if it comes up in class discussions for any reason, sex will be treated as being a terrible, sinful thing until marriage is established - and that this is only between man and woman (to do otherwise is to condemn our children to hell). There will be a morning prayer dedicated to the Christian (true) god, but during this time the Muslims can fit their 5 in and whoever else out there can do whatever it is they do (probably stupid).

Don't you see? Unless we do all these things, your PUBLIC (socialist) school system is nothing more than the stone on which Obamao sharpens his future Shocktrooper's skills. If we don't wake up and ignore the MSM Agit/Prop, America, I'm afraid that Obamao may win a second term and without fear of Re-Election he will finally reveal his true form, and use our brainwashed children as enforcers of his Martial Law to take away our guns and force us to eat ARUGULA!

keylock71: These people are ridiculous.

If Obama wins reelection, these idiots are going to go absolutely ape shiat... And I'm going to enjoy every minute of it.

I'll drink to that.
Those derpers will make the Blackstone Valley sniper look like Mr Rodgers.
Lot of loose cannons on board.

keylock71: These people are ridiculous.

If Obama wins reelection, these idiots are going to go absolutely ape shiat... And I'm going to enjoy every minute of it.

Go?

It would be a real tragedy if a High School diploma meant something no matter where it was earned. Good thing no one ever leaves their home town so such standards are not necessary.

Lionel Mandrake: ghare: hubiestubert: MaudlinMutantMollusk: It's not about "choice", it's about "we want vouchers so we can get a slice of that taxpayer pie, too"

Pretty much. "School choice" is bait and switch. It's about getting sweet, sweet, sweet taxpayer cheddar, nothing more...

No, it's about not having to have your kids go to school with "them."

You know what I mean.

Democrats?

No, furries.

Lionel Mandrake: You know what I mean.

Democr***?

Mods:

Please delete this filthy and offensive word and replace with the more socially acceptable "DemonCRAPS!!!111!11"


Thank you and God bless.

DjangoStonereaver: From TFA:

"This is what Hitler and Mussolini and all them tried to establish -- a monolith; so all the children would be educated in one set of beliefs and one way of doing things."

Obviously, the Church frowns on self-awareness and irony.

No, the Pope thinks this as well, so it must be true.

Church Schools really haven't thought this all the way through. If they start taking taxpayer money, particularly Federal taxpayer money, they will suddenly be forced to follow all sorts of government rules and regulations, and open themselves up their practices and methods to scrutiny from politicians and the general non-religious public. They will no longer be allowed to discriminate against gays, women, and coloreds. Even their Sunday Sermons would come under scrutiny if they are even remotely connected to the schoolwork. They really don't want this, but I guess the allure of a few extra "free" dollars is too much to resist for a true-blooded American

Lionel Mandrake: ghare: hubiestubert: MaudlinMutantMollusk: It's not about "choice", it's about "we want vouchers so we can get a slice of that taxpayer pie, too"

Pretty much. "School choice" is bait and switch. It's about getting sweet, sweet, sweet taxpayer cheddar, nothing more...

No, it's about not having to have your kids go to school with "them."

You know what I mean.

Democrats?

Mooselambs

SixPaperJoint: You know what I mean.

Democr***?

No, furries.

Oh, dear. I had no idea this web-log was such a haven for filth and profanity. How did AOL even allow this disgusting trash past my virus protection?

Lost Thought 00: You know what I mean.

Democr***?

Mooselambs

Again?


I am going to pray for you people's souls.

GAT_00: Uh, our schools don't require absolute reverence to the leader of the country, so probably not.

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Lionel Mandrake: I wasn't aware that Hitler and Mussolini liked to f*ck little boys.

/two can play at this game asshole

Well if any group knows what Mussolini likes it would be the Catholic Church.

tomWright: GAT_00: Uh, our schools don't require absolute reverence to the leader of the country, so probably not.

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Oh, and just to raise the level of DERP to normal levels:
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I take it you are not one for rational discourse.

JerseyTim: That's insane. Hitler and Mussolini would be shocked at how poorly U.S. high school kids are performing.

But I think we all know what their solution would be.

keylock71: these idiots are going to go absolutely ape shiat... And I'm going to enjoy every minute of i

I'm not. I predict actual violence this time, as they realize that much like their Islamic doppelgangers, they can only impose their retarded version of the world via force.

Both Mussolini and Hitler were raised Catholic, by the way.

Those that read CNSNEWS would be the exact same people supporting Hitler and Mussolini.

Rozotorical: Lionel Mandrake: I wasn't aware that Hitler and Mussolini liked to f*ck little boys.

/two can play at this game asshole

Well if any group knows what Mussolini likes it would be the Catholic Church.

Yes. I would expect a Catholic priest to tacitly approve of whatever Hitler and Mussolini are up to.

ghare: No, it's about not having to have your kids go to school with "them."

You know what I mean.

*nods* Lutherans.

bravian: Those that read CNSNEWS would be the exact same people supporting Hitler and Mussolini.

Good point.

Rozotorical: JerseyTim: That's insane. Hitler and Mussolini would be shocked at how poorly U.S. high school kids are performing.

But I think we all know what their solution would be.

Solutions are fine, but too many are only temporary. Would either of these guys have a more permanent, say a "final" solution?

I absolutely love how democrats completely ignore the success stories of the KIPP system. Some parents want a choice in their child's education, the horror!

They would have LOVED Anoka, Minnesota's school district.

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School choice is ultimately not about access to taxpayer dollars. There are many proposals that do not give dollars back to the parents, such as being able to choose among all local public schools.

There are proposals that do. Charter schools are sometimes run by for profit companies, sometimes not.
Vouchers and tax credits are involved as well.

But the ultimate reason behind school choice is to allow parents to leave failing schools, or schools that force things they disagree with upon the children.

We hear mostly about the uber-christians trying to get their kids out of school, but the same could be said for parents in Pennsylvania, Texas, Nebraska and many other places where forced school prayer still exists, or christian indoctrination is still the norm.

It can also be said for many inner-city schools, (Paterson, Camden) where parents want something better but are locked in.

Allowing school choice might get extremists out of the public schools, which may be sad for some of those kids, but a relief for the rest of us. It would also allow religious minorities, like atheists and others, to get their kids away from christian bullying.

This cuts many ways.

You religion bashers can slant it anyway you like, but the Bishop is right, the government is getting way too into all our lives. Once they get in, they'll never get out.

MyRandomName: I absolutely love how democrats completely ignore the success stories of the KIPP system. Some parents want a choice in their child's education, the horror!

Some parents want to have publicly funded schools that are not dominated by religion.

MyRandomName: I absolutely love how democrats completely ignore the success stories of the KIPP system. Some parents want a choice in their child's education, the horror!

What's that you say? Parents are still free to send their kid to private school or homeschool them if they see fit? How about that.

Hitler And Mussolini would love the capabilities of modern carrier battle groups.

Well, that's it I guess, we're all Nazis now. It was a good run while it lasted, guys.

hiiamchris: You religion bashers can slant it anyway you like, but the Bishop is right, the government is getting way too into all our lives. Once they get in, they'll never get out.

You're not a fan of 'we the people', right?

"Today many parents in our state experience the same lack of freedom in choosing an education that bests suits their child as those parents oppressed by dictators of the past."

Care to explain how they don't have the freedom to choose an education that best suits their child Bishop? Oh, you can't because they actually have the freedom to do that? Yea, that's what I thought. I know you are all butthurt about attendance at Catholic schools dropping like a stone in a lake, but maybe you should look at the boy farkers you have had in your midst and how you covered it up. fark you asshole.

I have a home in NY and pay the ridiculous property taxes thanks in part to pathetic mismanagement of the school system, I also have property in MA and pay slightly less property taxes for one of the best school systems in the country. Like everything the GOP proposes it is just a money grab for the pieces of shiat who own them and not really a solution to the problems. But in many states there does need to be something done to fix the school system.

tomWright: School choice is ultimately not about access to taxpayer dollars. There are many proposals that do not give dollars back to the parents, such as being able to choose among all local public schools.

There are proposals that do. Charter schools are sometimes run by for profit companies, sometimes not.
Vouchers and tax credits are involved as well.

But the ultimate reason behind school choice is to allow parents to leave failing schools, or schools that force things they disagree with upon the children.

We hear mostly about the uber-christians trying to get their kids out of school, but the same could be said for parents in Pennsylvania, Texas, Nebraska and many other places where forced school prayer still exists, or christian indoctrination is still the norm.

It can also be said for many inner-city schools, (Paterson, Camden) where parents want something better but are locked in.

Allowing school choice might get extremists out of the public schools, which may be sad for some of those kids, but a relief for the rest of us. It would also allow religious minorities, like atheists and others, to get their kids away from christian bullying.

This cuts many ways.

No that is not true at all Tom Vouchers are a direct assault on publicly available free education. The goal is to split the funding on already underfund schools with the goal of pushing children towards profit driven education where the state has little control on the amount of actual science being taught. If you think the average private school is better ran, then you live in a fantasy.