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(Yahoo)   First they killed off Clippy, and I didn't speak out because I didn't need help writing a letter. Then they came for the Start Button   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 140
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2012-02-07 12:16:03 AM  
Start button? What start button? cdn.gottabemobile.com
 
2012-02-07 12:16:52 AM  
i0.kym-cdn.com

/hey, let's destroy all of the good work we did with 7!
 
2012-02-07 12:18:33 AM  

JosephFinn: Start button? What start button? [cdn.gottabemobile.com image 558x349]


So it begins.

/Does not miss the start button that stops things.
 
2012-02-07 12:19:15 AM  

JosephFinn: Start button? What start button? [cdn.gottabemobile.com image 558x349]


The one that kept Windows from having that taskbar. You know, the ones that become stupidly minuscule after you added over 10 programs to it.
 
2012-02-07 12:19:20 AM  
Yeah, not likely to be getting a touch screen any time soon. Or to use windows8, unless I get a new rig for work.

Just switched from winxp to win7 on my home rig, after using the same xp install over three rigs over... 12 years? Just moved the hd over to each new box.
 
2012-02-07 12:24:27 AM  
This is worse than the Holocaust, the Gulags, the Cultural Revolution, and 5 John Denver Christmas specials all rolled into one.
 
2012-02-07 12:26:35 AM  

Marine1: [i0.kym-cdn.com image 300x300]

/hey, let's destroy all of the good work we did with 7!


That's Microsoft's business model: If people like it... scrap it and start over.
 
2012-02-07 12:29:03 AM  
I like the search function under the Win7 Start. Being able to start a program up without clicking the mouse, memorizing menu shortcuts, or navigating with up/down buttons is nice.

/UI plebe
 
2012-02-07 12:35:53 AM  
After so many people fell in love with the "ribbon" in the updated Office products Microsoft probably felt emboldened to redesign the UI for Windows.
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Perhaps instead of a number they'll come up with a snappy name for this new OS, such as Vista Deuce. It looks to me like they're dropping a deuce.
 
2012-02-07 12:36:28 AM  

JosephFinn: Start button? What start button? [cdn.gottabemobile.com image 558x349]


How is LaunchPad anything more than a full-screen dumbed-down start button?
 
2012-02-07 12:37:55 AM  

red5ish: After so many people fell in love with the "ribbon" in the updated Office products Microsoft probably felt emboldened to redesign the UI for Windows.
[img832.imageshack.us image 565x314]
Perhaps instead of a number they'll come up with a snappy name for this new OS, such as Vista Deuce. It looks to me like they're dropping a deuce.


The bastion of hope will be Windows Server 8. The Windows 7 interface won't be going anywhere with it.

/unless, of course, they've completely lost their minds.
//they need Server, Workstation, and Consumer versions.
 
2012-02-07 12:40:32 AM  

red5ish: After so many people fell in love with the "ribbon" in the updated Office products Microsoft probably felt emboldened to redesign the UI for Windows.
[img832.imageshack.us image 565x314]
Perhaps instead of a number they'll come up with a snappy name for this new OS, such as Vista Deuce. It looks to me like they're dropping a deuce.


I'm getting a "Windows Me" vibe....

/ pass
 
jvl
2012-02-07 12:40:41 AM  
It's amazing to me how fast Microsoft has unlearned the lessons of Vista.

Vista II: Electric Boogaloo
 
2012-02-07 12:41:37 AM  

JosephFinn: Start button? What start button? [cdn.gottabemobile.com image 558x349]


Shut up Mac boy! You're a freak and no body likes you!

/curling up in fetal position, sobbing.
//clippy...why????
 
2012-02-07 12:43:17 AM  

Marine1: The one that kept Windows from having that taskbar. You know, the ones that become stupidly minuscule after you added over 10 programs to it.


You know, you don't have to put absolutely every application on the taskbar.
 
2012-02-07 12:46:13 AM  

unyon: Marine1: The one that kept Windows from having that taskbar. You know, the ones that become stupidly minuscule after you added over 10 programs to it.

You know, you don't have to put absolutely every application on the taskbar.


Not to mention the taskbar size is adjustable. You can make it take up half your screen if you really want.
 
2012-02-07 12:51:27 AM  

JosephFinn: Start button? What start button? [cdn.gottabemobile.com image 558x349]


The last time I saw somebody so happy with their 50 desktop icons, it was when I had to use my great-aunt's computer.

I'll pass.
 
2012-02-07 12:52:22 AM  
First they killed off Clippy, and I didn't speak out because I didn't need help writing a letter. farking cheered.
 
2012-02-07 12:54:23 AM  
Meanwhile, Program Manager weeps in a corner..

/obscure?
//then get off my lawn!
 
2012-02-07 01:00:56 AM  
unyon - You know, you don't have to put absolutely every application on the taskbar.

It's even worse than that, I count at least ten apps on the dock that are on the desktop!

/7's working search leaves my beautiful desktop with no icons.
 
2012-02-07 01:03:21 AM  
i.cmpnet.com
R.I.P. Xtree Pro
 
2012-02-07 01:05:53 AM  
Pics of the leaked Consumer preview of Windows 8.

Link (new window)
Link (new window)

Electrify: Meanwhile, Program Manager weeps in a corner..

/obscure?
//then get off my lawn!


upload.wikimedia.org

ha. I remember that. Not good memories of Windows 3.1 I'm afraid.
 
2012-02-07 01:08:19 AM  

Rent is too damn high: ha. I remember that. Not good memories of Windows 3.1 I'm afraid.


My memories of windows 3.1 involves my brother throwing a chair across the room because he couldn't figure out the jumpers to install a modem.

took me 30min to figure it out. :D

I rocked back then. 386 processor. 120MB of HD space. And my mother telling me that's more space than we'd EVER need.

/now i'm just old.
 
2012-02-07 01:08:43 AM  

Ambivalence: JosephFinn: Start button? What start button? [cdn.gottabemobile.com image 558x349]

Shut up Mac boy! You're a freak and no body likes you!

/curling up in fetal position, sobbing.
//clippy...why????


There there, it's going to be OK.
 
2012-02-07 01:10:11 AM  

Treygreen13: JosephFinn: Start button? What start button? [cdn.gottabemobile.com image 558x349]

The last time I saw somebody so happy with their 50 desktop icons, it was when I had to use my great-aunt's computer.

I'll pass.


That's not a desktop. It's Launchpad.
 
2012-02-07 01:10:38 AM  
Yeah, not going to stick an OS designed for touchscreens/tablets/phones on my laptop or desktop...I'll pass.

Way to screw things up Microsoft
 
2012-02-07 01:11:08 AM  

unyon: Marine1: The one that kept Windows from having that taskbar. You know, the ones that become stupidly minuscule after you added over 10 programs to it.

You know, you don't have to put absolutely every application on the taskbar.


Right-o. Ones used every day go in the Dock, ones used less often go in the Applications folder in the Dock.
 
2012-02-07 01:24:05 AM  
No start button? how do you turn it off?
 
2012-02-07 01:26:32 AM  
I for one really dont need a new OS.

Am i insane for thinking that? What does the new one ultimately do that the one i have now does not?
 
2012-02-07 01:26:51 AM  
So linux gets the compiz extra flashy treatment, and a little while later Windows follows suit. Everyone writes it off as natural progression. Now Windows 8 seems to be emulating Gnome3 and unity, even though most hate those.

Next they'll announce a windowless server interface.
 
2012-02-07 01:29:39 AM  
Wait, wait, CLIPPY IS GONE!!?!?!?!?!?!?!

what happened to clippy? Who do I complain to? How am I supposed to know how to bold crap?
 
d52
2012-02-07 01:32:24 AM  
First they take away my classic start menu, now the whole thing? When they take away the Windows Classic theme I'll know the world has officially ended. They better still let me kill the themes service... at least give me that shred of sanity.
 
2012-02-07 01:33:56 AM  

Rent is too damn high: ha. I remember that. Not good memories of Windows 3.1 I'm afraid.


When I was an undergrad I was the university telephone tech support that helped incoming freshmen configure their windows 3.1 to successfully establish a PPP connection to the university's networks.

/I get an urge to drink any time I hear someone say "wind sock" now... it's too close, too soon...
 
2012-02-07 01:40:05 AM  
See, stuff like this is the reason I'm glad I'm in nursing school now. I don't care if I have to just change old people's diapers all day long, there will still be less crap than working in IT, especially after this comes out.
 
2012-02-07 01:47:02 AM  

JosephFinn: Start button? What start button? [cdn.gottabemobile.com image 558x349]


Yuck.

I have exactly two icons on my desktop; Rubbish and My Computer. I have three icons pinned for quick launch; Firefox, Thunderbird, and WinAmp. Everything else (be it programme or folder) I regularly access is in one gadget (Launch Control), sorted into useful categories.

I absolutely loathe desktops covered in shortcuts and taskbars full of pinned shortcuts. What a farking ugly mess, and you should feel bad for thinking that THAT is an example of what's good about MacOS.
 
2012-02-07 01:52:26 AM  

unlikely: /I get an urge to drink any time I hear someone say "wind sock" now... it's too close, too soon...


UGH! I had forgotten...The horror....the horror!

Why did you make me remember?!!!
 
2012-02-07 01:55:35 AM  

mikefinch: I for one really dont need a new OS.

Am i insane for thinking that? What does the new one ultimately do that the one i have now does not?


Link (new window)

If nothing there appeals to you, then stick with Windows 7. Some people stuck with Vista, some people stuck to XP, some people stuck to 2000. There's no requirement to upgrade.
 
2012-02-07 02:30:19 AM  
Start button??

i291.photobucket.com

LOAD "SUMMERGAMES",8,1
 
2012-02-07 02:31:08 AM  
Yeah, this is a slap in the face to most current gen users.

But honestly, blending the mobile and desktop OSs into one is really the next logical step. Phones are already getting powerful enough to rival desktops of a few years ago. I can see a time in the not to distant future where desktops, laptops, phones, car stereos, TVs, etc are all running the same system, with shared/cloud data storage and inter-connectivity between them. Your car stereo will essentially be a node of that overall system skinned to be optimal for driving. Your phone will likewise be another part of that system, optimized for handheld use. Same with your TV. Your desktop will be the same thing, just with more storage, more screens, and better peripherals. Each physical device will be sharing the same data, probably even running the applications remotely and streaming the I/O, with the user interface optimized for whatever device you're using it on. The next step beyond syncing your devices. The devices are actually all part of the same system, just different facets.

Windows 8 is an attempt to get there. In the current form, it sucks. But it's a wobbly step in the right direction.
 
2012-02-07 02:32:34 AM  

JosephFinn: Start button? What start button? [cdn.gottabemobile.com image 558x349]


is that like a giant iPhone wall or something?
 
2012-02-07 02:37:36 AM  
You make a grown man cry, Microsoft.
 
2012-02-07 02:58:36 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: Yeah, not likely to be getting a touch screen any time soon. Or to use windows8, unless I get a new rig for work.

Just switched from winxp to win7 on my home rig, after using the same xp install over three rigs over... 12 years? Just moved the hd over to each new box.


I'd love to, if I could simply upgrade instead of having to nuke and repave.
 
2012-02-07 03:12:09 AM  

Ambivalence: unyon: Marine1: The one that kept Windows from having that taskbar. You know, the ones that become stupidly minuscule after you added over 10 programs to it.

You know, you don't have to put absolutely every application on the taskbar.

Not to mention the taskbar size is adjustable. You can make it take up half your screen if you really want.


Adjustable was back in Vista when you could make the taskbar double-tall and have two rows of program icons localized into a small area of visual space at the bottom left. Now if I want 15 icons down there I have to scan across horizontally to find what I want.
 
2012-02-07 03:18:18 AM  
We have to use Project 98 at work, so my Clippy-induced nightmare has come back to haunt me.
 
2012-02-07 03:20:47 AM  
When are they going to make an adaptable interface so we can choose what we want, rather than upgrade to the one they think we should want?

And, before anybody says it, I'm not gonna use Linux. I have a life.

/okay, I don't
//still not wasting my time on Oblong Octopus or whatever release you're on now
 
2012-02-07 03:22:50 AM  
Ugh. This looks awful. If it isn't broken, why are they trying to fix it?

I want off this M$ wagon. I'd go Linux in a heartbeat except I don't want to deal with compatibility hassles with games.
 
2012-02-07 03:27:19 AM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: If it isn't broken, why are they trying to fix it?


Remember, we're talking about Windows. It's never not broken.
 
2012-02-07 03:28:30 AM  
As long as one of the things that can be pinned is a list of links to all major programs listed alphabetically, and another is the run command, I have no real issue with this.
 
2012-02-07 03:41:35 AM  
Wake me when they bring back DeskMate
 
2012-02-07 04:20:12 AM  
The ultimate in "change for the sake of change" will be when microsoft randomly scrambles everything in the UI at every reboot. Everything will change for no good reason -- not improved, just changed. Only then they will be happy.
 
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