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2wolves
2012-02-06 07:42:24 PM
I have no issue with a quick clean kill. That looks like abuse.
Does animal cruelty laws apply to fish?
lokisbong
2012-02-06 07:53:12 PM
2wolves
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I have no issue with a quick clean kill. That looks like abuse.
Does animal cruelty laws apply to fish?
With an extremely invasive species like the Asian carp I say let the rednecks have their fun.
Coelacanth
2012-02-06 08:04:43 PM
lokisbong
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With an extremely invasive species like the Asian carp I say let the rednecks have their fun.
I'm an animal lover too. Almost an a vegan. But anything that kills Asian carp is a good thing.
2wolves
2012-02-06 08:11:34 PM
lokisbong
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2wolves: I have no issue with a quick clean kill. That looks like abuse.
Does animal cruelty laws apply to fish?
With an extremely invasive species like the Asian carp I say let the rednecks have their fun.
No, does anyone know what the law says. I fully appreciate your opinion.
vudukungfu
2012-02-06 08:11:47 PM
Queue the PETA outrage
vudukungfu
2012-02-06 08:29:42 PM
Gonna need a bigger boat.
Three stage dragger with out nets.
And a puree floom to the hold.
Sell it all for cat fud.
That's gold in them thar waters.
lokisbong
2012-02-06 08:31:12 PM
"For the foreseeable future, there is still an opportunity for virtually unlimited shooting and harvest of Asian carps by bowfishers, in many parts of the invaded range," said Duane Chapman, a research fisheries biologist for the United States Geological Survey. "Recreational fishers and bowfishers should not feel bad about killing all the Asian carp they want to kill. Every little bit helps."
NYTimes article
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Taken from the first article I looked at from a quick google search. I think this is legal and almost encouraged.
Jamdug!
2012-02-06 08:47:14 PM
If that sport catches on our idiot problem may soon be over, too.
Lando Lincoln
2012-02-06 08:54:36 PM
I really do have to do some serious asian carp fishing this coming summer. I've heard they're pretty darn tasty and they have got to be the easiest fish in the world to catch.
lokisbong
2012-02-06 08:57:31 PM
Lando Lincoln
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I really do have to do some serious asian carp fishing this coming summer. I've heard they're pretty darn tasty and they have got to be the easiest fish in the world to catch.
Yeah all you need is a noisy boat! Don't even need a net. I would totally go harvest a few hundred of them if I lived on that side of the country.
basemetal
2012-02-06 09:00:01 PM
Those rednecks are going to gig themselves. I want to see that video.
OregonVet
2012-02-06 09:07:40 PM
They are gross. But if you think they're tasty you're in luck. Hope you don't care for other types of fish though. And thank Obama too for his administration derailing any attempt to keep this species out of the Great Lakes in favor of the shipping lobby.
OregonVet
2012-02-06 09:13:48 PM
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I_Am_Weasel
2012-02-06 09:20:23 PM
Carp jokes! An oldie, but a ...well, an oldie.
Two fishermen were out on the lake when one of them dropped his wallet. As they watched the wallet float down to the depths of the lake, a carp came along and snatched up the wallet. Soon came another carp who stole it away and then a third joined in.
Remarked one of the fisherman, "That's the first time I've ever seen carp-to-carp walleting."
lokisbong
2012-02-06 09:20:29 PM
OregonVet
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They are gross. But if you think they're tasty you're in luck. Hope you don't care for other types of fish though. And thank Obama too for his administration derailing any attempt to keep this species out of the Great Lakes in favor of the shipping lobby.
Heh I never said anything about eating them. I had already heard that they taste like shiat. But I would still do my part to eradicate them.
Shostie
2012-02-06 09:46:36 PM
2wolves
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lokisbong: 2wolves: I have no issue with a quick clean kill. That looks like abuse.
Does animal cruelty laws apply to fish?
With an extremely invasive species like the Asian carp I say let the rednecks have their fun.
No, does anyone know what the law says. I fully appreciate your opinion.
Here you go:
Link
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jbuist
2012-02-06 09:59:10 PM
lokisbong
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Heh I never said anything about eating them. I had already heard that they taste like shiat.
Supposedly they taste like a cross between crab meat and scallops. I could go for that. They're a delicacy in some parts of the world; Israel being one of them. That's actually why we have them in the US. They were being farmed in Illinois for sale to Israelies, the Mississippi flooded, and they escaped into the wild.
I sorta figure anything that tastes good and can be hunted will have a hard time taking a real foot hold in the US. If there was ever a people that could solve a problem with firearms and forks it's us.
Walker
2012-02-06 10:12:25 PM
When it comes to Asian carp.....Kill em all, let Asian carp God sort them out.
lokisbong
2012-02-06 10:17:50 PM
jbuist
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lokisbong: Heh I never said anything about eating them. I had already heard that they taste like shiat.
Supposedly they taste like a cross between crab meat and scallops. I could go for that. They're a delicacy in some parts of the world; Israel being one of them. That's actually why we have them in the US. They were being farmed in Illinois for sale to Israelies, the Mississippi flooded, and they escaped into the wild.
I sorta figure anything that tastes good and can be hunted will have a hard time taking a real foot hold in the US. If there was ever a people that could solve a problem with firearms and forks it's us.
Except that the Asian carp has not just taken a real foot hold here. It is breeding so fast it's causing other species to have major issues finding food from what I understand. I don't think it is possible to eat them as fast as they appear to be breeding.
jbuist
2012-02-06 10:49:01 PM
lokisbong
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I don't think it is possible to eat them as fast as they appear to be breeding.
Go people watching at a WalMart for a day. You'll change your tune. Common way to prepare them is to deep fry them.
I kid. I realize they're a serious problem, and if they hit the Great Lakes we're going to have a real hard time weeding them out. One suggestion I've heard is to pack the Great Lakes with indigenous species so that the Asian Carp can't get a foothold. Not sure it would work, but it seems like an idea worth trying.
2wolves
2012-02-06 11:04:08 PM
Shostie
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2wolves: lokisbong: 2wolves: I have no issue with a quick clean kill. That looks like abuse.
Does animal cruelty laws apply to fish?
With an extremely invasive species like the Asian carp I say let the rednecks have their fun.
No, does anyone know what the law says. I fully appreciate your opinion.
Here you go:
Link (new window)
So it's perfectly legal to torture fish. Thank you.
Coelacanth
2012-02-06 11:05:32 PM
jbuist
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lokisbong: Heh I never said anything about eating them. I had already heard that they taste like shiat.
Supposedly they taste like a cross between crab meat and scallops. I could go for that. They're a delicacy in some parts of the world; Israel being one of them. That's actually why we have them in the US. They were being farmed in Illinois for sale to Israelies, the Mississippi flooded, and they escaped into the wild.
I sorta figure anything that tastes good and can be hunted will have a hard time taking a real foot hold in the US. If there was ever a people that could solve a problem with firearms and forks it's us.
How to fillet an Asian carp
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T-Boy
2012-02-06 11:52:37 PM
Coelacanth
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How to fillet an Asian carp Link (new window)
And when he finished cutting the trash off, a six pound fish yielded a skinny 5 ounce strip.
Fish in a Barrel
2012-02-07 12:03:07 AM
I was waiting for them to either cut the tow rope or pop that inflatable.
unyon
2012-02-07 12:06:56 AM
T-Boy
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Coelacanth: How to fillet an Asian carp Link (new window)
And when he finished cutting the trash off, a six pound fish yielded a skinny 5 ounce strip.
That's what I was thinking. I think he was in a bit of a hurry, though.
Von_Ruff
2012-02-07 12:10:30 AM
AAAAA++++++++++. LOL'd, would LOL again.
sparky191
2012-02-07 12:10:53 AM
vudukungfu
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Gonna need a bigger boat.
Three stage dragger with out nets.
And a puree floom to the hold.
Sell it all for cat fud.
That's gold in them thar waters.
or sell them to the chinese grass carp, and various carp are a delicacy over there that is gold in them waters or as you said cat food, they are fit for human consumption and they dont taste bad they arent the best but not bad.
puffy999
2012-02-07 12:16:42 AM
HOLY CARP!
Bunnyhat
2012-02-07 12:27:51 AM
lokisbong
:
. I had already heard that they taste like shiat.
I heard the exact opposite.
They're biggest problem is deboning the suckers.
Coelacanth
2012-02-07 12:40:49 AM
unyon
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T-Boy: Coelacanth: How to fillet an Asian carp Link (new window)
And when he finished cutting the trash off, a six pound fish yielded a skinny 5 ounce strip.
That's what I was thinking. I think he was in a bit of a hurry, though.
That's why carp is a delicacy. And if you want to get into the business of processing carp, sell what you don't use to a rendering plant or fertilizer company.
GreatGlavinsGhost
2012-02-07 12:52:12 AM
OregonVet
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They are gross. But if you think they're tasty you're in luck. Hope you don't care for other types of fish though. And thank Obama too for his administration derailing any attempt to keep this species out of the Great Lakes in favor of the shipping lobby.
That would all change if the fish was renamed the Mexican carp.
lewismarktwo
2012-02-07 12:55:06 AM
Bunnyhat
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lokisbong: . I had already heard that they taste like shiat.
I heard the exact opposite.
They're biggest problem is deboning the suckers.
Fishsticks shouldn't be a problem tho.. and asian carp cakes..
jjmartin
2012-02-07 01:07:28 AM
I think the fish won.
zato_ichi
2012-02-07 01:14:41 AM
These fish are a big problem, and the way they are "fishing" them is really about the best way. They rarely take a hook. They eat everything and anything, but I've only seen one take a lure once or twice.
I usually fish bass below the locks towards Pekin, and they aren't too big of a problem there. I'm curious where these guys were at. And that was nothing, I was on the Kankakee River 3 summers ago, and it was downright scary.
And the meat is pretty tasty, baked or fried. It's got a bit of a saltwater fish taste to it. But, as stated above, they are a pain in the ass to clean.
ultraholland
2012-02-07 01:35:44 AM
oh shiat, I had entirely too many lulz watching that
ComputerBob
2012-02-07 01:40:45 AM
My dad always told me that the only way to prepare carp is to place the fish between 2 2x6's and lash it down real tight with some bungee cords or duct tape (duct tape solves everything, btw). Then drive over the boards several times with your car. Finally, separate the fish/board contraption, throw away the fish, and eat the boards. Carp taste like shiat.
I've never eaten Asian Carp, and I'm sure he hasn't either. But it'd take an awful lot of convincing for me to believe that it's anything other than "too much trouble for what it's worth" after looking at all those bones to navigate around.
NDP2
2012-02-07 02:00:11 AM
Coelacanth
:
jbuist: lokisbong: Heh I never said anything about eating them. I had already heard that they taste like shiat.
Supposedly they taste like a cross between crab meat and scallops. I could go for that. They're a delicacy in some parts of the world; Israel being one of them. That's actually why we have them in the US. They were being farmed in Illinois for sale to Israelies, the Mississippi flooded, and they escaped into the wild.
I sorta figure anything that tastes good and can be hunted will have a hard time taking a real foot hold in the US. If there was ever a people that could solve a problem with firearms and forks it's us.
Coelacanth
:
unyon: T-Boy: Coelacanth: How to fillet an Asian carp Link (new window)
And when he finished cutting the trash off, a six pound fish yielded a skinny 5 ounce strip.
That's what I was thinking. I think he was in a bit of a hurry, though.
That's why carp is a delicacy. And if you want to get into the business of processing carp, sell what you don't use to a rendering plant or fertilizer company.
zato_ichi
:
These fish are a big problem, and the way they are "fishing" them is really about the best way. They rarely take a hook. They eat everything and anything, but I've only seen one take a lure once or twice.
I usually fish bass below the locks towards Pekin, and they aren't too big of a problem there. I'm curious where these guys were at. And that was nothing, I was on the Kankakee River 3 summers ago, and it was downright scary.
And the meat is pretty tasty, baked or fried. It's got a bit of a saltwater fish taste to it. But, as stated above, they are a pain in the ass to clean.
It seems to me that the overabundance of carp is something that could be solved with just a bit of marketing. Right now, hardly anybody wants to eat fish called "carp no matter how good they really taste. The name looks and sounds too close to "crap". The obvious solution is to give carp a slick and sophisticated-sounding new name that will attract foodies willing to order the fish in restaurants for $35+. This is not without precedent. Nobody wanted to eat something called "Patagonian Tooth-fish" but once it was rechristened "Chilean Sea Bass", it got to be so popular, they've almost been fished into extinction.
Happy Hours
2012-02-07 02:25:35 AM
NDP2
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It seems to me that the overabundance of carp is something that could be solved with just a bit of marketing. Right now, hardly anybody wants to eat fish called "carp no matter how good they really taste. The name looks and sounds too close to "crap". The obvious solution is to give carp a slick and sophisticated-sounding new name that will attract foodies willing to order the fish in restaurants for $35+. This is not without precedent. Nobody wanted to eat something called "Patagonian Tooth-fish" but once it was rechristened "Chilean Sea Bass", it got to be so popular, they've almost been fished into extinction.
It worked so well for swamp rats, didn't it?
Two_Noodles
2012-02-07 02:49:57 AM
I have had some carp prepped by Duane Chapman, they were mighty tasty. He cleaned them a different way that time, the Y bones were left in each piece of fish (about as big as a restaurant chicken strip). The Y bones were no more trouble than the bones in hot wings really.
Bighead and silver carp are filter feeders, and really efficient at it. Other filter feeders include baitfish like shad and the larval forms of pretty much every native fish. The Asians grow too big to be eaten by piscivorous fish and vacuum up all the zooplankton. They threaten larval recruitment of pretty much every native fish in the midwest. We need some sort of patriotic movement to eat them all.
Seriously, your Country Needs You: Eat More Carp!
2xhelix
2012-02-07 06:31:52 AM
Two_Noodles
:
I have had some carp prepped by Duane Chapman
lynxi
2012-02-07 08:26:23 AM
NDP2
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Coelacanth: jbuist: lokisbong: Heh I never said anything about eating them. I had already heard that they taste like shiat.
Supposedly they taste like a cross between crab meat and scallops. I could go for that. They're a delicacy in some parts of the world; Israel being one of them. That's actually why we have them in the US. They were being farmed in Illinois for sale to Israelies, the Mississippi flooded, and they escaped into the wild.
I sorta figure anything that tastes good and can be hunted will have a hard time taking a real foot hold in the US. If there was ever a people that could solve a problem with firearms and forks it's us.
Coelacanth: unyon: T-Boy: Coelacanth: How to fillet an Asian carp Link (new window)
And when he finished cutting the trash off, a six pound fish yielded a skinny 5 ounce strip.
That's what I was thinking. I think he was in a bit of a hurry, though.
That's why carp is a delicacy. And if you want to get into the business of processing carp, sell what you don't use to a rendering plant or fertilizer company.
zato_ichi: These fish are a big problem, and the way they are "fishing" them is really about the best way. They rarely take a hook. They eat everything and anything, but I've only seen one take a lure once or twice.
I usually fish bass below the locks towards Pekin, and they aren't too big of a problem there. I'm curious where these guys were at. And that was nothing, I was on the Kankakee River 3 summers ago, and it was downright scary.
And the meat is pretty tasty, baked or fried. It's got a bit of a saltwater fish taste to it. But, as stated above, they are a pain in the ass to clean.
It seems to me that the overabundance of carp is something that could be solved with just a bit of marketing. Right now, hardly anybody wants to eat fish called "carp no matter how good they really taste. The name looks and sounds too close to "crap". The obvious solution is to give carp a slick and sophisticated-sounding new name
they already gave them a new marketing name it is sliverfin
mikefinch
2012-02-07 08:28:21 AM
That was fantastic.
I really wanna try that out. It looks like the aquatic version of going to the back 40 with beer and a .22 for gophers.
Brubold
2012-02-07 08:41:51 AM
lynxi
they already gave them a new marketing name it is sliverfin
Like when they changed dolphin to mahi-mahi? I remember having an argument with a know it all in high school after I mentioned eating dolphin on a trip to Florida. She didn't know there were two species known by the same name.
CSB.
Old_Chief_Scott
2012-02-07 10:18:44 AM
I_Am_Weasel
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Carp jokes! An oldie, but a ...well, an oldie.
Two fishermen were out on the lake when one of them dropped his wallet. As they watched the wallet float down to the depths of the lake, a carp came along and snatched up the wallet. Soon came another carp who stole it away and then a third joined in.
Remarked one of the fisherman, "That's the first time I've ever seen carp-to-carp walleting."
I probably shouldn't encourage you but I larfed.
LeroyBourne
2012-02-07 11:14:07 AM
Let's just impale ourselves with those weapons. Wouldn't it make more sense to use two boats, one to flush and the other to stand on and brutalize the fish?
Kirkenhegelstein
2012-02-07 12:29:09 PM
Brubold
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lynxi
they already gave them a new marketing name it is sliverfin
Like when they changed dolphin to mahi-mahi? I remember having an argument with a know it all in high school after I mentioned eating dolphin on a trip to Florida. She didn't know there were two species known by the same name.
CSB.
Moron. Mahi-mahi is renamed
dolphinfish
(
Coryphaena hippurus
, one of two species in the
Coryphaenidae
family) not those members of the
Delphinidae
family or
Platanistoidea
superfamily, which are commonly referred to as dolphins.
Bunnyhat
2012-02-07 12:36:07 PM
Kirkenhegelstein
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Brubold: lynxi
they already gave them a new marketing name it is sliverfin
Like when they changed dolphin to mahi-mahi? I remember having an argument with a know it all in high school after I mentioned eating dolphin on a trip to Florida. She didn't know there were two species known by the same name.
CSB.
Moron. Mahi-mahi is renamed dolphinfish (Coryphaena hippurus, one of two species in the Coryphaenidae family) not those members of the Delphinidae family or Platanistoidea superfamily, which are commonly referred to as dolphins.
Mahi-mahi or dolphinfish.
Bunnyhat
2012-02-07 12:36:53 PM
Bunnyhat
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Mahi-mahi or dolphinfish.
Spazmojack
2012-02-07 01:08:07 PM
NDP2
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Coelacanth: jbuist: lokisbong: Heh I never said anything about eating them. I had already heard that they taste like shiat.
Supposedly they taste like a cross between crab meat and scallops. I could go for that. They're a delicacy in some parts of the world; Israel being one of them. That's actually why we have them in the US. They were being farmed in Illinois for sale to Israelies, the Mississippi flooded, and they escaped into the wild.
I sorta figure anything that tastes good and can be hunted will have a hard time taking a real foot hold in the US. If there was ever a people that could solve a problem with firearms and forks it's us.
Coelacanth: unyon: T-Boy: Coelacanth: How to fillet an Asian carp Link (new window)
And when he finished cutting the trash off, a six pound fish yielded a skinny 5 ounce strip.
That's what I was thinking. I think he was in a bit of a hurry, though.
That's why carp is a delicacy. And if you want to get into the business of processing carp, sell what you don't use to a rendering plant or fertilizer company.
zato_ichi: These fish are a big problem, and the way they are "fishing" them is really about the best way. They rarely take a hook. They eat everything and anything, but I've only seen one take a lure once or twice.
I usually fish bass below the locks towards Pekin, and they aren't too big of a problem there. I'm curious where these guys were at. And that was nothing, I was on the Kankakee River 3 summers ago, and it was downright scary.
And the meat is pretty tasty, baked or fried. It's got a bit of a saltwater fish taste to it. But, as stated above, they are a pain in the ass to clean.
It seems to me that the overabundance of carp is something that could be solved with just a bit of marketing. Right now, hardly anybody wants to eat fish called "carp no matter how good they really taste. The name looks and sounds too close to "crap". The obvious solution is to give carp a slick and sophisticated-sounding new n ...
That's a crappie idea
cgraves67
2012-02-07 01:42:00 PM
Central Illinois Redneck. These are my people.
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