Oh, blow it out your ass, Mittens.

When I think "soul", I think Mitt Romney.

I don't wanna be a Mormon.

FlashHarry: how does a candidate who has no soul himself "save the soul" of america?

Well, if he refrained from arbitrarily declaring that Congress is "on recess" (when it's in session) and then making "recess appointments" (again, when Congress is in session), we would be at least one step closer to restoring the balance of powers intended by the founders. We could work our way up to "not passing unconstitutional healthcare legislation," even.

except for the poor. They can't afford souls.

Forgot_my_password_again: except for the poor. They can't afford souls.

And gingers, who are born without them.

serpent_sky: Ouch.

But seriously, that Baptism thing should be haunting him, and not only on Fark -- which is the only place I hear talk of it.

super pacman will release that after the primaries are over. Then Romney will complain and Obama will denounce it but it would already be out there.

serpent_sky: Ouch.

But seriously, that Baptism thing should be haunting him, and not only on Fark -- which is the only place I hear talk of it.

It's a Mormon thing. As explained to me by my Mormon friend, a post-mortem baptism into the Mormon church is more of an invitation to the awesome heaven party (should they change their minds now that they're dead) than a declaration that they are now of the flock. Which is why the official Mormon church has a track record of baptising just about everyone regardless of their personally held beliefs. The one that really got under my skin was when they baptised Carl Sagan.

Mitt Romney: Speaker For the Dead. I want to be posthumously baptized by the Mormons. How do I request that? Seems like a no-brainer version of Pascal's wager.

I wonder if he'll commission a national grain tower for all the americans who get saved? They will need a bigger one for the end of the world. That one in SLC isn't going to be nearly large enough if Romney saves us all.

Let's be fair, here: The baptism thing is strictly small potatoes. Whatever his beliefs about salvation may be, they hold no bearing on his history of predatory capitalism or his utter and complete disdain for anyone who pulls down less than six figures a year.

Focus on what's important, people.

A Republican with a soul? Thats a first.

I'm really looking forward to him getting the nomination, and the mainstream press reporting stupid comments like this.

Well played subby.

Over half a decade straight of running for President, and this farking guy still lacks focus, a coherent message, and shows only a vague understanding at best of what is required of a candidate for President.

"Save the soul of America." What in the blue fark does that even mean?? What soul? Save it from what or who? From Obama? The roughly 50% of US citizens that voted for him in 2008 and will again in 2012? What specifically needs saving?

This guy lost to John farking McCain 4 years ago, and this is why: He's a horrible candidate, and under anything close to normal circumstances wouldn't have a hope in hell of being considered for the nomination. What's even worse for the GOP beyond the fact this guy is going to be the nominee is the fact the best and brightest GOP campaign wonks have naturally gravitated towards him, and this is the best they can come up with.

"Save the soul of America." Sounds a lot like "America First." In both cases there's the implication Obama and/or his supporters are a danger to America and are somehow less patriotic than the supporters of the GOP nominee or the nominee himself. This "Real American" bullshiat that Palin was oh so happy to spew. It's dangerous language that I farking loathe.

The baptism thing comes off as disrespectful, but honestly it's a lot less offensive than the baptism and indoctrination of oblivious children that other religions engage in regularly.

If my eternal rest is disturbed by a couple of Mormon dorks at my door, I'm gonna be really pissed!

Mormon tradition, but also Massachusettes tradition. They have a long history of imagining that other folks want their help.



/Yes it really has an native american saying "come over and help us"
//hot like pocahontas

Crabs_Can_Polevault: Let's be fair, here: The baptism thing is strictly small potatoes. Whatever his beliefs about salvation may be, they hold no bearing on his history of predatory capitalism or his utter and complete disdain for anyone who pulls down less than six figures a year.

Focus on what's important, people.

Hmmm, that does raise the important philosophical question of whether bankrupt or disincorporated entities are now eligible for proxy baptism. Bear Stearns may now be able enter the Kingdom of God.

Shrugging Atlas: Over half a decade straight of running for President, and this farking guy still lacks focus, a coherent message, and shows only a vague understanding at best of what is required of a candidate for President.

"Save the soul of America." What in the blue fark does that even mean?? What soul? Save it from what or who? From Obama? The roughly 50% of US citizens that voted for him in 2008 and will again in 2012? What specifically needs saving?

This guy lost to John farking McCain 4 years ago, and this is why: He's a horrible candidate, and under anything close to normal circumstances wouldn't have a hope in hell of being considered for the nomination. What's even worse for the GOP beyond the fact this guy is going to be the nominee is the fact the best and brightest GOP campaign wonks have naturally gravitated towards him, and this is the best they can come up with.

"Save the soul of America." Sounds a lot like "America First." In both cases there's the implication Obama and/or his supporters are a danger to America and are somehow less patriotic than the supporters of the GOP nominee or the nominee himself. This "Real American" bullshiat that Palin was oh so happy to spew. It's dangerous language that I farking loathe.

Reminds me of a slogan I heard at work a while ago.

"People First. Mission Always."

I can't fathom what kind of person thinks that that is inspiring. Or even makes any kind of sense. Now that I think about it, it may have been reversed.

In a state that has legal gambling and prostitution, none of this makes sense.

Obama "I deserve to be reelected." Somewhat assuming.

Romney "I will save the soul of America" Egotistical to a fault.

kingoomieiii: Walker: I wonder if most of America realizes he has done this and it is a standard Mormon practice?

I'm loathe to attack someone PURELY on their religion, but this specific 'tradition' is so reprehensible to me (and others) that I simply don't understand how he doesn't see it himself.

Do keep in mind that Romney is running with the same people who thought it necessary to point out that Obama's preacher said "God Damn America" and that Obama himself may or may not be Muslim.

Romney's fairy tale of choice is fair game.

Sir Vanderhoot: serpent_sky: Ouch.

But seriously, that Baptism thing should be haunting him, and not only on Fark -- which is the only place I hear talk of it.

It's a Mormon thing. As explained to me by my Mormon friend, a post-mortem baptism into the Mormon church is more of an invitation to the awesome heaven party (should they change their minds now that they're dead) than a declaration that they are now of the flock. Which is why the official Mormon church has a track record of baptising just about everyone regardless of their personally held beliefs. The one that really got under my skin was when they baptised Carl Sagan.

Soo... spiritual junk mail.

You May Already Have Won!

If a Mormon can baptize can a Baptist mormonize? And what does that look like?
And does it only happen to a dead person?

I'm good with it.

kingoomieiii: Walker: I wonder if most of America realizes he has done this and it is a standard Mormon practice?

I'm loathe to attack someone PURELY on their religion, but this specific 'tradition' is so reprehensible to me (and others) that I simply don't understand how he doesn't see it himself.

I wouldn't call it reprehensible. I'd call it comically meaningless. Of all the hilariously useless things people do for religion, this is the uselesslest.

/useless

He will save the soul of America by sacrificing the poor and working classes to Huitzilopochtli.

No thanks, Mitt.

BitwiseShift: If a Mormon can baptize can a Baptist mormonize? And what does that look like?

Like two people who don't recognize each other in the state-run liquor store.

As long as he doesn't tie us to the roof of his station wagon.

He's a soul man.

A Dark Evil Omen: He will save the soul of America by sacrificing the poor and working classes to Huitzilopochtli.

Q'uq'umatz might be a better choice if'n we're gonna avert that Apocalpyso thing.

Rapmaster2000: kingoomieiii: Walker: I wonder if most of America realizes he has done this and it is a standard Mormon practice?

I'm loathe to attack someone PURELY on their religion, but this specific 'tradition' is so reprehensible to me (and others) that I simply don't understand how he doesn't see it himself.

I wouldn't call it reprehensible. I'd call it comically meaningless. Of all the hilariously useless things people do for religion, this is the uselesslest.

/useless

Seriously, I find it amusing and almost trolly. Hey, I do a secret magic ritual that turns your dead loved ones into atheists; U MAD? Plus, someone apparently submitted Obama's mom for the ritual and she was duly baptized. For the lulz obviously.

Walker: So why is it OK for a Mormon candidate to do it?

Because people have always been hypocrites. Secular democracy is a recent invention, and even at that, some people really hate it.

Walker: Rapmaster2000: kingoomieiii: Walker: I wonder if most of America realizes he has done this and it is a standard Mormon practice?

I'm loathe to attack someone PURELY on their religion, but this specific 'tradition' is so reprehensible to me (and others) that I simply don't understand how he doesn't see it himself.

I wouldn't call it reprehensible. I'd call it comically meaningless. Of all the hilariously useless things people do for religion, this is the uselesslest.

/useless

It may be meaningless, but think if a Muslim candidate said he personally has switched Christians to the Muslim religion after they died and he fully supports this practice. Not only would he be run out of the race but he would probably be run out of the country. So why is it OK for a Mormon candidate to do it?

That's not what it is. They arne't saying that these people are now part of the Mormon church, they're just allowing them the ability to join should they change their minds (although it is post-mortem).

Crabs_Can_Polevault: Let's be fair, here: The baptism thing is strictly small potatoes. Whatever his beliefs about salvation may be, they hold no bearing on his history of predatory capitalism or his utter and complete disdain for anyone who pulls down less than six figures a year.

Focus on what's important, people.

It is absolutely important. It displays a complete and total lack of respect for others' religious beliefs and personal choices. "I don't want to be baptized as a Mormon." "fark you, we're going to do it anyway, and we're going to do it when you're unable to complain about it."