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(ABC) Obvious Ron Paul says "it's hard to say" when or where he might win a caucus or primary this nominating season. Coincidentally, that's the same answer political experts give when asked why he's still in the race   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 127
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2012-02-06 11:24:16 AM
One positive benefit of Ron Paul's massive losing streak is that the people on facebook who constantly spam about Ron Paul have now shut up, for the most part.
 
2012-02-06 11:47:49 AM
The Paulbots I encounter blame this on the media. booga booga booga
 
2012-02-06 11:49:26 AM
RexTalionis: One positive benefit of Ron Paul's massive losing streak is that the people on facebook who constantly spam about Ron Paul have now shut up, for the most part.

That's not my experience.
 
2012-02-06 12:12:05 PM
CLEARLY RONPAUL DID NOT BUY ENOUGH GOLD
 
2012-02-06 12:13:12 PM
The reason that Ron Paul stays in the race is very clear : There are still rubes to fleece.
 
2012-02-06 12:17:48 PM
Philip Francis Queeg: The reason that Ron Paul stays in the race is very clear : There are still rubes to fleece.

Says one of the five who got fleeced paying $5 a month for TF.
 
2012-02-06 12:21:55 PM
Yes everyone who is not in first place should immediately drop out. Lets just have a poll before we even have any primaries and just skip them all together. I mean we have already had 5 states vote. Why should the other 45 even bother.
 
2012-02-06 12:22:03 PM
RexTalionis: One positive benefit of Ron Paul's massive losing streak is that the people on facebook who constantly spam about Ron Paul have now shut up, for the most part.

I had one friend on facebook just this morning say we should all vote for Ron Paul because she got pat down at the airport.
 
2012-02-06 12:23:32 PM
blindpreacher: Philip Francis Queeg: The reason that Ron Paul stays in the race is very clear : There are still rubes to fleece.

Says one of the five who got fleeced paying $5 a month for TF.


I rely upon the kindness of strangers.
 
2012-02-06 12:24:47 PM
fringeecon.com

/hot like a mound of burning worthless Federal Reserve notes
 
2012-02-06 12:24:57 PM
spcMike: I had one friend on facebook just this morning say we should all vote for Ron Paul because she got pat down at the airport.

dogdaze: That's not my experience.

Okay, okay, so the decrease in Ron Paul spams is only really occurring on my end, it seems. However, I'm still thankful for that.
 
2012-02-06 12:27:17 PM
Ron Paul plays a very important role in pulling in his 10% of the electorate into the Republican party. Without him, most of those people, and their cash, would end up going to Democrats and/or third party candidates.

/Why yes, most of the left-over funds in Paul's campaign coffers end up being given to the RNC at the end of the election.
 
2012-02-06 12:29:41 PM
Lost Thought 00: Ron Paul plays a very important role in pulling in his 10% of the electorate into the Republican party. Without him, most of those people, and their cash, would end up going to Democrats and/or third party candidates.

/Why yes, most of the left-over funds in Paul's campaign coffers end up being given to the RNC at the end of the election.


Sure, voting for or donating to Ron Paul is supporting the Republican party, but vote Ron Paul because both sides are bad!

/Ron Paul: The greatest con artist of our time
 
2012-02-06 12:30:28 PM
spcMike: RexTalionis: One positive benefit of Ron Paul's massive losing streak is that the people on facebook who constantly spam about Ron Paul have now shut up, for the most part.

I had one friend on facebook just this morning say we should all vote for Ron Paul because she got pat down at the airport.


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2012-02-06 12:31:23 PM
If one were to discover a new species of Pokemon called the ronpaul, and locked several dozen of them in a room, the constant repetition of those two syllables would resemble a conversation among his supporters.
 
2012-02-06 12:32:46 PM
Is this where liberderpians argue that lack of electoral success only means that people are too sheeple-like to grasp the awesomeness of libertarianism?

Or is this where they say that RONPAUL! is succeeding in starting a dialogue, and that is what matters?

Or is it bizarro world where lack of electoral success and popular support equals #1 worst best most least popular and he is new president already?

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/libertarianism is getting its hearing in this election, and it is failing miserably
 
2012-02-06 12:44:55 PM
RexTalionis: One positive benefit of Ron Paul's massive losing streak is that the people on facebook who constantly spam about Ron Paul have now shut up, for the most part.

That's because they're too busy posting their idiotic cult trash on You Tube and Liveleak.
 
2012-02-06 12:48:36 PM
Caucus's are not in the Constitution.
 
2012-02-06 12:56:11 PM
I'm glad he's still in the race.

He's drawing a few votes away from Dr. Moneydick and Lard Gingrich the Vile. Let's hope it stays this way.
 
2012-02-06 01:10:14 PM
Ron Paul says "it's hard to say" when or where he might win a caucus or primary this nominating season.

"Ubeki-beki-beki-beki-stan-stan" is hard to say. I can hardly say it at all, so he's a shoo in there. Maybe he should team up with Herman Cain.
 
2012-02-06 01:15:21 PM
asmodeus224: /libertarianism is getting its hearing in this election, and it is failing miserably

Yeah, central government economic planning has been doing a stellar job for the country so far.
 
2012-02-06 01:16:39 PM
Why anyone would want Ron Paul as President is beyond me, because honestly it isn't like he'll be able to get his ideas through congress. Congress is already unable to work together, the last thing we need is a president unable to work with congress. Sure he'd be able to veto stuf, but Congress would just override it. So at best with Ron Paul as President, nothing gets done even more so than anything is getting done now.

Not to mention he'd have to be apart of a party that wanted him in the first place to get the Nom, and he isn't.

Oh well, let the young idealist or whoever is backing him continue their foolish/unrealistic dreams I guess.
 
2012-02-06 01:16:58 PM
Deftoons: asmodeus224: /libertarianism is getting its hearing in this election, and it is failing miserably

Yeah, central government economic planning has been doing a stellar job for the country so far.


Look how stupid you are.
 
2012-02-06 01:23:35 PM
I'm going to the Colorado caucus on Tuesday.

I was thinking Gingrich but I could be convinced to go for Paul if it would mean he'll stay in the race...
 
2012-02-06 01:26:50 PM
There's every reason for Paul, Gingrich, and even Santorum to stay in the race, even if he can't realistically win the nomination. Because Republican delegates are apportioned proportionally it's very possible with multiple candidates that none of them will win enough delegates to guarantee a majority in the first round of voting. If no majority is reached in the first round, Paul, Gingrich, and Santorum would each still have a plausible chance of winning in a compromise vote, or at least playing a very influential role in deciding who DOES become the nominee. Paul could throw his support to Romney, putting him over the top, for example, in the expectation that Romney will lobby to abolish or restrict the Fed. Gingrich might want support for his moon base, or Santorum might want support for more abortion restrictions.
 
2012-02-06 01:26:58 PM
dogdaze: RexTalionis: One positive benefit of Ron Paul's massive losing streak is that the people on facebook who constantly spam about Ron Paul have now shut up, for the most part.

That's not my experience.


Nor mine.
 
2012-02-06 01:27:59 PM
unlikely: I'm going to the Colorado caucus on Tuesday.

I was thinking Gingrich but I could be convinced to go for Paul if it would mean he'll stay in the race...


I could go either way. Every day Gingrich stays in the primary is another day that Romney bleeds money, but Paul has good chances at running as an independent if he gets enough support.
 
2012-02-06 01:29:51 PM
Deftoons: [fringeecon.com image 307x500]

/hot like a mound of burning worthless Federal Reserve notes


If you're just going to burn your federal reserve notes, can I have them instead?
 
2012-02-06 01:37:07 PM
A Dark Evil Omen: Deftoons: asmodeus224: /libertarianism is getting its hearing in this election, and it is failing miserably

Yeah, central government economic planning has been doing a stellar job for the country so far.

Look how stupid you are.


Look how quick you go for a terrible playground-level immature ad hominem instead of articulating a smart retort.
 
2012-02-06 01:38:10 PM
Rhaab: If one were to discover a new species of Pokemon called the ronpaul, and locked several dozen of them in a room, the constant repetition of those two syllables would resemble a conversation among his supporters.

I love it when people on facebook complain they have no idea why people dismiss Ron Paul.

And then when people try to answer, they get upset. Because obviously, your opinion on why people dislike Ron Paul is invalid if you dislike Ron Paul.
 
2012-02-06 01:41:41 PM
Bag of Hammers: Caucus's are not in the Constitution.

Neither are apostrophe's
 
2012-02-06 01:43:05 PM
Deftoons: A Dark Evil Omen: Deftoons: asmodeus224: /libertarianism is getting its hearing in this election, and it is failing miserably

Yeah, central government economic planning has been doing a stellar job for the country so far.

Look how stupid you are.

Look how quick you go for a terrible playground-level immature ad hominem instead of articulating a smart retort.


No, really, he has a point.
 
2012-02-06 01:46:58 PM
Deftoons: A Dark Evil Omen: Deftoons: asmodeus224: /libertarianism is getting its hearing in this election, and it is failing miserably

Yeah, central government economic planning has been doing a stellar job for the country so far.

Look how stupid you are.

Look how quick you go for a terrible playground-level immature ad hominem instead of articulating a smart retort.


HOW DARE HE NOT TREAT YOUR IGNORANT BULLSHIAT WITH MORE RESPECT THAN IT DESERVES
 
2012-02-06 01:53:18 PM
In the long run, Paul's participation in the race is far more important than his winning it.

He keeps important issues alive that Romney (and the others- including the Dems) would prefer the public "forget".

Keep running, Dr. Paul.
 
2012-02-06 01:56:20 PM
fark Ron Paul. If he wins the government won't be able to lock up American citizens indefinitely without a trial. What kind of idiot could be against something like that. Oh, and roads and such.

/don't forget about roads
//roads
 
2012-02-06 01:57:50 PM
Amos Quito: In the long run, Paul's participation in the race is far more important than his winning it.

He keeps important issues alive that Romney (and the others- including the Dems) would prefer the public "forget".

Keep running, Dr. Paul.


What issue is that Amos? Does it rhyme with "the news"?
 
2012-02-06 01:59:19 PM
Deftoons: A Dark Evil Omen: Deftoons: asmodeus224: /libertarianism is getting its hearing in this election, and it is failing miserably

Yeah, central government economic planning has been doing a stellar job for the country so far.

Look how stupid you are.

Look how quick you go for a terrible playground-level immature ad hominem instead of articulating a smart retort.


"central government economic planning". Nice Soviet wording there. You mean the Fed? Which is effectively the Third Bank of the US? And I take it you know how we killed off the First and Second Banks of the US, only to either revive the next version or turn to fiat currency specifically because Gold and Silver are inadequate for stabilizing economies nor are they adequate for financing large projects (especially wars)?

Replacing the Fed with some idiot Gold/Silver standard mechanism is like replacing welfare with Slavery.
 
2012-02-06 02:00:35 PM
Ron's in it to be heard. He knows he's unelectable outside Texass.

Ron's is great for getting a list of what's wrong. Once you have that list, send him home and find reasonable solutions. Don't listen to his solutions as they are unhinged.

For instance, the Fed SHOULD be abolished. It should NOT be replaced with a gold backed currency. Our economic rivals have way more of it than we do. Silver would be a better choice, but not by much. It still places economic growth at the mercy of something we can't simply create and destroy. Instead we should have notes issued by the treasury, like Lincoln's Greenback (Google: Monetary Reform Act). After putting the bill forward Obama would be dead in a matter of weeks.

We can't win the "War of Drugs" because it's not about drugs, it's about hurting brown people. Ron would legalize recreational drugs. This idea is almost as bad as the war on drugs itself. Instead, we should decriminalize drugs over time. Starting with the least dangerous.
 
2012-02-06 02:01:02 PM
Paul's answer on This Week was telling.

effectively he said "keep on keeping on". This is exactly what he's done for decades with little real result.

How many bills has he authored? Is it more than 310 (i remember that number when I looked it up a few years back -- it could be off).

How many got out of committee and have even gotten to a vote -- 3 -- and 1 has passed (the federal reserve oversight bill?).

He continues to be a stubborn man with crazy conspiracy theories and little support. The support he does get are from neophytes who haven't yet figured out a guy equivocating "constitutional freedom is the answer" when he knows that his version of constitutional freedoms is different from pretty much everyone else. If not neophytes then fringe candidates that can't get any other candidate to take their money.

His answer to "how do you get a win" is similar to his bill authoring tactic, in effect:

I'll wait till people agree with me. I won't budge an inch to east or an inch to the west.
 
2012-02-06 02:02:02 PM
lordaction: fark Ron Paul. If he wins the government won't be able to lock up American citizens indefinitely without a trial.

About 40% of RON PAUL's ideas are good. The rest are ignorant, dangerous, not something that would ever pass a legislature or dishonest and disingenuous.
 
2012-02-06 02:06:42 PM
blindpreacher: Philip Francis Queeg: The reason that Ron Paul stays in the race is very clear : There are still rubes to fleece.

Says one of the five who got fleeced paying $5 a month for TF.


Though I would argue that nobody who gets TF thinks that TF is going to change the world.
 
2012-02-06 02:09:32 PM
unlikely: I'm going to the Colorado caucus on Tuesday.

I was thinking Gingrich but I could be convinced to go for Paul if it would mean he'll stay in the race...


Gingrich isn't even trying for Colorado. Santorum, Paul and Romney are the only ones who are at least half-assing it.
 
2012-02-06 02:11:07 PM
Philip Francis Queeg: Amos Quito: In the long run, Paul's participation in the race is far more important than his winning it.

He keeps important issues alive that Romney (and the others- including the Dems) would prefer the public "forget".

Keep running, Dr. Paul.

What issue is that Amos? Does it rhyme with "the news"?


Or the fleet-footedness of "slacks", knowing Amos.
 
2012-02-06 02:11:23 PM
mattbors.com
 
2012-02-06 02:18:26 PM
schrodinger: [mattbors.com image 600x433]

All you did was completely take out of context what he said and changed the issue entirely.
 
2012-02-06 02:20:24 PM
apeiron242: Ron's is great for getting a list of what's wrong. Once you have that list, send him home and find reasonable solutions. Don't listen to his solutions as they are unhinged.

For instance, the Fed SHOULD be abolished. It should NOT be replaced with a gold backed currency. [..].


Here is where Ron Paul has confused people and led to people like you thinking there are half-truths in his theories.

He's a farking nutter and his shiat is based on nutter mentality.

Good questions to ask:

1) what does the fed do?
2) what existed before it was formed?
3) how did it originally form?
4) why was it formed?
5) what would exist if it was abolished?

let me help you with these (but you should read: The Federal Reserve System):

The fed is a bunch of rich people who help guide the US economy in ways that enables it to grow reasonably and indefinitely.

They have a bunch of tools in their belt like setting the loan practices of banks. They do this because rich people have always set the loan practices of banks and they would do this outside the banking system if provided some leverage in its dealings.

These practices (without federal reserve guidance) caused cyclical rises and falls in the economy purely because when rich people do shiat, it matters.

In the rubble of the 1907 crash congress formed the federal reserve because they understood if they could control SOME of the goals of these rich people they could put such direction to good use for the US economy and probably reduce the number of or lessen the severity of the cyclic economic crashes that had happened up until this point.

I'll leave it to you to decide what would happen if the federal reserve was abolished and how to ensure activities pre-1900 would not be SOP a few days after such an action.
 
2012-02-06 02:20:57 PM
Philip Francis Queeg: Amos Quito: In the long run, Paul's participation in the race is far more important than his winning it.

He keeps important issues alive that Romney (and the others- including the Dems) would prefer the public "forget".

Keep running, Dr. Paul.

What issue is that Amos? Does it rhyme with "the news"?



The primary issues (plural) that Paul brings to the forefront are related to our steadily drifting away from the CONSTITUTION - the Supreme Law of the Land - and our relentless march toward a Centralized, Authoritarian and Totalitarian government.

Hope that clears things up a bit.
 
2012-02-06 02:21:34 PM
lordaction: fark Ron Paul. If he wins the government won't be able to lock up American citizens indefinitely without a trial.

Really? The president now has the ability to strike down veto-proof legislation that passed before his administration? That's a new one. Where does the constitution give him that authority?

Because I'm pretty sure that the only thing that Ron Paul can do is declare that this is a power he refuses to exercise. Which is exactly what Obama has done already.
 
2012-02-06 02:22:46 PM
BSABSVR: Philip Francis Queeg: Amos Quito: In the long run, Paul's participation in the race is far more important than his winning it.

He keeps important issues alive that Romney (and the others- including the Dems) would prefer the public "forget".

Keep running, Dr. Paul.

What issue is that Amos? Does it rhyme with "the news"?

Or the fleet-footedness of "slacks", knowing Amos.



You keep making insinuations.

Why not back them up with cited, in-context quotes, BSABSVR?
 
2012-02-06 02:24:21 PM
Amos Quito: Philip Francis Queeg: Amos Quito: In the long run, Paul's participation in the race is far more important than his winning it.

He keeps important issues alive that Romney (and the others- including the Dems) would prefer the public "forget".

Keep running, Dr. Paul.

What issue is that Amos? Does it rhyme with "the news"?


The primary issues (plural) that Paul brings to the forefront are related to our steadily drifting away from the CONSTITUTION - the Supreme Law of the Land - and our relentless march toward a Centralized, Authoritarian and Totalitarian government.

Hope that clears things up a bit.


Yes, Dr. Paul much prefers 50 Centralized, Authoritarian and Totalitarian governments.
 
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