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They need ya, Decks, this is a bad one, the worst yet: Harrison Ford reportedly in talks for Ridley Scott's new Blade Runner
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dittybopper
2012-02-06 11:15:06 AM
I could see him playing the role of Bryant.
Jake Havechek
2012-02-06 11:55:35 AM
Does he hide in a fridge to ambush Roy Batty?
Mugato
2012-02-06 12:15:12 PM
So he wasn't a replicant then? Good, it works out better that way.
2wolves
2012-02-06 12:40:46 PM
No. Because this would entail at least 63 new director's cut versions. This alone might stop an economic recovery.
unlikely
2012-02-06 12:50:23 PM
Is Ford so out of money he's just saying "You know what... screw dignity, papa's gotta eat" or something?
I can see the theme of this one: Normal humans realize that they, too, die at some point. It is mostly film of a lot of 80-year-olds wandering around muttering "I want more life, f*cker."
Throughout the film, Deckard takes increasingly comical and improbable falls, and every time finds himself face-to-face with an animatronic gopher.
Mugato
2012-02-06 01:23:36 PM
unlikely
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Is Ford so out of money he's just saying "You know what... screw dignity, papa's gotta eat" or something?
One could ask that about guys like Ben Kingsley who were supposed to be great actors but do multiple Uwe Boll movies. But Blade Runner is probably the closest thing to a "deep" movie he's ever done. And no matter how internet geeks bleat on about Indy 4, the thing did make $780mill. So I could understand how some producers might still be in the Harrison Ford business.
beantowndog
2012-02-06 02:31:56 PM
That reminds me, I should take a nap later.
Darklemming
2012-02-06 02:59:32 PM
Well it can't be a prequel unless they want to take 30 CGI years off Ford.
Maybe it will be a sequel where Fords character was the human that the Deckard replicant is modeled after. He could be an exec or the new CEO of Tyrell Industries and gets caught up in some sort of shenanigans.
LeroyBourne
2012-02-06 03:01:17 PM
fta: But that's not necessarily a given, considering who and what Deckard is.
Oh we know what he is. Scott ruined that years ago.
James Scameron
2012-02-06 03:06:10 PM
according to Twitch Film
IT MUST BE TRUE!
horseshiot all of it.
Therion
2012-02-06 03:07:55 PM
Needs More Rutger.
noazark
2012-02-06 03:10:00 PM
All I know is, L.A.'d better hurry up and get started on construction of those giant Syd Mead buildings if they're gonna be ready by 2019.
And we'll need the flying cars by 2015, when Marty McFly will get here.
Darklemming
2012-02-06 03:12:03 PM
noazark
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All I know is, L.A.'d better hurry up and get started on construction of those giant Syd Mead buildings if they're gonna be ready by 2019.
And we'll need the flying cars by 2015, when Marty McFly will get here.
Don't wish too hard, Skynet has to take over and cause judgement day for the future war in 2029.
Jingle Strangle
2012-02-06 03:13:05 PM
[Sighs]
[Lights a joint]
The shiat I put up with.
/movie will probably be awful though
Current Resident
2012-02-06 03:14:43 PM
Done in two.
farkeruk
2012-02-06 03:15:40 PM
unlikely
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Is Ford so out of money he's just saying "You know what... screw dignity, papa's gotta eat" or something?
I never understand this. Early in your career, you're desperate for the cash. I can understand that people will do shiat with a paycheque attached but once you've got millions in the bank, why not do stuff you actually like doing, and stuff that actually means that people will go and see you in the next thing.
I used to go see anything with De Niro or Steve Martin in. Now, I wait for it to appear on TV because my expectations are so farking low.
James Scameron
2012-02-06 03:16:06 PM
Mugato
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unlikely: Is Ford so out of money he's just saying "You know what... screw dignity, papa's gotta eat" or something?
One could ask WHY ANYONE WOULD SPECULATE ON A SPECULATION .
ftfy
Mugato
2012-02-06 03:17:06 PM
Actually, the biggest evidence that Deckard is a Replicant wasn't the unicorn origami or all Deckard's pictures but was just sort of a supposed plot hole.
Deckard, the veteran blade runner, is called in to straighten shiat out but for some reason he has to be told all the basic replicant 101 facts. The 4 year life span, the implanted memories. These are things that Deckard should have already known but for whatever reason, didn't. Maybe he was a replicant being groomed to be a blade runner but it was most likely just a clumsy way of explaining the replicants to the audience.
mekkab
2012-02-06 03:22:13 PM
Dude, Blade Runner was a flop when it came out. Why the heck would you make another?!
/Mein Voight-Kampf
mekkab
2012-02-06 03:23:34 PM
The bigger question; is Vangelis available do to the sound track?
Mugato
2012-02-06 03:36:03 PM
mekkab
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Dude, Blade Runner was a flop when it came out. Why the heck would you make another?!
There are plenty of movies that didn't do well at first but grew a cult following that produced sequels. Just in Blade Runner's release year alone, The Thing, Tron and Star Trek 2 (which wasn't huge at the time but is considered the best of the Trek movies).
Cheron
2012-02-06 03:36:39 PM
farkeruk
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Early in your career, you're desperate for the cash. I can understand that people will do shiat with a paycheque attached
I was in college, I need money, I was told it was an art film, it was supposed to be tasteful.
I look at it this way, after a long break Ford did the forth film in the Indian Jones trilogy which is clearly the best one. So this must be a good idea.
/maybe best isn't teh word I was looking for.
Jingle Strangle
2012-02-06 03:40:17 PM
Mugato
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mekkab: Dude, Blade Runner was a flop when it came out. Why the heck would you make another?!
There are plenty of movies that didn't do well at first but grew a cult following that produced sequels. Just in Blade Runner's release year alone, The Thing, Tron and Star Trek 2 (which wasn't huge at the time but is considered the best of the Trek movies).
thatsthejoke.png
mhd
2012-02-06 03:45:41 PM
I came in here to post that Humphrey Bogart wasn't exactly young whippersnapper when he played the prototype for all noir detectives. Then I did my fact checking: Harrison Ford is 69?
/then again maybe they spliced in some tortoise anti-aging genes
Wayne 985
2012-02-06 03:47:53 PM
Mr. Scott, I know what you're thinkin'. I came to talk you out of it. You need to just accept that Blade Runner is over. Not try to bring it back. I know you're thinkin' of doin' it. Of makin' a sequel. Don't deny the thought had crossed your mind, Ridley. You're thinkin' if you make another movie, the franchise'll come back to life. You asked me if anyone had ever tried a sequel to an old movie that had long expired. It's been done before, what you're thinkin' of. It's name was
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
. The series you try and revive ain't the series that comes back. The Italians knew that. That's why they quit doin' it when the celluloid went sour.
Sometimes... dead is better.
Mugato
2012-02-06 03:52:40 PM
mhd
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I came in here to post that Humphrey Bogart wasn't exactly young whippersnapper when he played the prototype for all noir detectives. Then I did my fact checking: Harrison Ford is 69?
Well how old did you think he was?
Evil Mackerel
2012-02-06 03:55:49 PM
mekkab
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The bigger question; is Vangelis available do to the sound track?
Its going to be Kenny G.
mhd
2012-02-06 04:00:06 PM
Mugato
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Well how old did you think he was?
A bit less closer to my mother's age.
/Yes, I know, "mileage"...
Mugato
2012-02-06 04:14:17 PM
mhd
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Mugato: Well how old did you think he was?
A bit less closer to my mother's age.
/Yes, I know, "mileage"...
Well I just meant even kids know that Star Wars was in the late 1970's. But whatever. If you didn't now how old he was, what difference does it make? Whatever you think of Indy 4, Ford did a lot of his own stunts. I hope I'm in that shape at his age.
mongbiohazard
2012-02-06 04:15:42 PM
Mugato
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So he wasn't a replicant then? Good, it works out better that way.
I always thought so too, which is why I put the theatrical cut in my media server. And I'm glad that this is basically just a rumor right now because it sounds like a terrible idea.
JohnBigBootay
2012-02-06 04:25:25 PM
mongbiohazard
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I always thought so too, which is why I put the theatrical cut in my media server.
Good for you. I prefer the theatrical cut myself. Including the voiceovers. If Deckard was a freakin' relicant, he was a damn piss-poor one.
Rubber Biscuit
2012-02-06 04:32:01 PM
Blade Walker.
mongbiohazard
2012-02-06 04:53:44 PM
JohnBigBootay
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mongbiohazard: I always thought so too, which is why I put the theatrical cut in my media server.
Good for you. I prefer the theatrical cut myself. Including the voiceovers. If Deckard was a freakin' relicant, he was a damn piss-poor one.
I think the story has more poignancy that way too. It is a story about a human being forced to confront the nature of humanity and the consequences of his career of killing replicants. If he is a replicant himself then you wonder how long he knows & it kills some of the sympathy for me.
mekkab
2012-02-06 04:56:27 PM
Evil Mackerel
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mekkab: The bigger question; is Vangelis available do to the sound track?
Its going to be Kenny G.
At first, I laughed. Then I thought about it... and started to cry.
Rubber Biscuit
:
Blade Walker.
Blade Mobility Scooter.
Mugato
2012-02-06 05:09:19 PM
mongbiohazard
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JohnBigBootay: mongbiohazard: I always thought so too, which is why I put the theatrical cut in my media server.
Good for you. I prefer the theatrical cut myself. Including the voiceovers. If Deckard was a freakin' relicant, he was a damn piss-poor one.
I think the story has more poignancy that way too. It is a story about a human being forced to confront the nature of humanity and the consequences of his career of killing replicants. If he is a replicant himself then you wonder how long he knows & it kills some of the sympathy for me.
Yeah, when it was first brought up I thought, "What a cool twist!" but no. The whole point was that Deckard was more of an emotion-less robot than the replicants were and the replicants were "more human than human" (that was a line from the movie stolen from a White Zombie tune). When Rachel asks Deckard if he took the Voight-Kamph test himself, it wasn't trying to be some clue that he was a replicant, it just meant that he's a human but still manages to be an emotionless bastard.
I can do without the voiceover and the happy ending in the theatrical cut though. I get the Sam Spade thing but the happy ending with them driving away with B-roll footage from the Shining (it's the same shot of the family driving to the hotel) is not necessary at all.
Rutger Hauer could have used a supporting actor nod for that, BTW.
James Scameron
2012-02-06 05:09:43 PM
Mugato
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Actually, the biggest evidence that Deckard is a Replicant wasn't the unicorn origami or all Deckard's pictures but was just sort of a supposed plot hole.
Deckard, the veteran blade runner, is called in to straighten shiat out but for some reason he has to be told all the basic replicant 101 facts. The 4 year life span, the implanted memories. These are things that Deckard should have already known but for whatever reason, didn't. Maybe he was a replicant being groomed to be a blade runner but it was most likely just a clumsy way of explaining the replicants to the audience.
maybe he was full of margarine too!
MAYBE...just maybe... in both the directors cut and the theatrical version, the unicorn origami was because he was full of margarine...MARGARINE!
if you WATCH THE FILM it is explained that the Nexus are NEW REPLICANTS...with NEW IMPLANTS which is why he tests RACHEL at the Tyrell Corp...
Deckard has been "retired" for some time...
you are explaining your lack of basic comprehension as PLOT HOLES the director tried to fill supposedly because you missed something...or you don't understand basic film exposition...probably both in your case.
a "clumsy way of explaining replicants?" more like your "clumsy way" of not understanding a pretty straight forward film.
three basic things that are well documented:
-Fancher wanted ambiguity as to whether or not Deckard was a replicant.
-Scott wanted a new angle to sell his longer cut and jump on a new bandwagon
-either way, the unicorn dream sequence and the unicorn origami are in all extant versions of the scripts from the early Fancher/Peoples drafts to the final shooting script.
so what were you blathering on about?
oh yeah, you were donating your charitably uneducated opinion on something (that is quite obvious to anyone else who can watch and understand a film) as a "supposed plot hole" .
it's not a plot hole.
your "speculative opinions" lack the requisite knowledge required for you to be taken as anything other than a flaked pastry.
stick to the Batman fanboy pokemon/miley cyrus threads where your knowledge will do some good..
"you're posting on a fark thread and you make no sense...why is that?"
"but how come i be there?"
"maybe you're unemployed? maybe you aren't very intelligent?"
"intelligent? whats that?"
"know what smart is? same thing...shall we continue?"
Kraftwerk Orange
2012-02-06 05:27:48 PM
Therion
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Needs More Rutger.
LucklessWonder
2012-02-06 05:31:06 PM
Never seen the Theatrical Cut, just the Director's cut, and the Final cut. I think this was the earliest example of Harrison's later day acting technique of just wearing a pissed off scowl for an entire movie, which he perfected in Cowboys vs. Aliens
Nihilist's Guide to Reticent Entropy
2012-02-06 05:39:48 PM
Blade Runner was great. Leave it alone.
Instead, make a true-to-the-book film version of
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
complete with Mercerism, Iran Deckard, Rachel Rosen, the Luba Luft, J.R. Isidore, the animal repair shop, Pennfield Mood Organs, Buster Friendly and his Friendly Friends, the other police station, and Roy and Irmgard
Baty
.
I love Blade Runner, but it's NOT anything like the book. It takes a few names and couple basic ideas from the book, but it totally veers off on another story and has an entirely different point.
RoyBatty
2012-02-06 05:52:01 PM
Nihilist's Guide to Reticent Entropy
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Blade Runner was great. Leave it alone.
Instead, make a true-to-the-book film version of Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? complete with Mercerism, Iran Deckard, Rachel Rosen, the Luba Luft, J.R. Isidore, the animal repair shop, Pennfield Mood Organs, Buster Friendly and his Friendly Friends, the other police station, and Roy and Irmgard Baty.
I love Blade Runner, but it's NOT anything like the book. It takes a few names and couple basic ideas from the book, but it totally veers off on another story and has an entirely different point.
It's got the birds.
Mugato
2012-02-06 06:02:09 PM
James Scameron
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you are explaining your lack of basic comprehension as PLOT HOLES the director tried to fill supposedly because you missed something...or you don't understand basic film exposition...probably both in your case.
a "clumsy way of explaining replicants?" more like your "clumsy way" of not understanding a pretty straight forward film.
Wow, could you be just a little more smarmy about it? What are you, borrowed from Aint-it-Coll News? Deckard didn't know about the 4 year lifespan either? That was standard in all replicants. What is it about talking about sci-fi movies that turns people into sarcastic pricks?
Sandor at the Zoo
2012-02-06 06:04:17 PM
LucklessWonder
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Never seen the Theatrical Cut, just the Director's cut, and the Final cut. I think this was the earliest example of Harrison's later day acting technique of just wearing a pissed off scowl for an entire movie, which he perfected in Cowboys vs. Aliens
A "pissed off scowl"? Like the one he's wearing when he's scared sh*tless trying to get away from Roy Batty? That "pissed off scowl"?
JohnBigBootay
2012-02-06 06:06:06 PM
mongbiohazard
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I think the story has more poignancy that way too.
Could not agree more. I just don't get the point of a conspiratorial secret replicant who doesn't know it and having his boss and co-worker in on it. If it was illegal to have replicants on earth and they had to hide the fact that he was one they'd have hardly entrusted that massive secret to a couple of gumshoes. If they were exempt from that rule because they were law enforcement then there's really no reason to not let deckard know what he was. And he wouldn't have been so damn fragile either.
DuudeStanky
2012-02-06 06:10:46 PM
Nuts to Blade Runner. Give me a Neuromancer movie
mongbiohazard
2012-02-06 06:13:24 PM
Mugato
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Rutger Hauer could have used a supporting actor nod for that, BTW.
Absolutely. He did a phenomenal job in Blade Runner. It's too bad it wasn't so well received at the time.
JohnBigBootay
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Could not agree more.
I just don't get the point of a conspiratorial secret replicant who doesn't know it and having his boss and co-worker in on it.
If it was illegal to have replicants on earth and they had to hide the fact that he was one
they'd have hardly entrusted that massive secret to a couple of gumshoes
. If they were exempt from that rule because they were law enforcement then there's really no reason to not let deckard know what he was. And he wouldn't have been so damn fragile either.
I always just thought it was a better movie with Deckard not being a replicant... but you're right, now that you mention it that also doesn't make a lick of sense.
wiredroach
2012-02-06 06:31:18 PM
Rubber Biscuit
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Blade Walker.
I like how you think:
AgtSmithReloaded
2012-02-06 07:19:38 PM
James Scameron
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Snipped
Dial it down a few notches, pal. As intelligent as I'm betting you actually are, you're lessening the value of that knowledge by sounding like a rude, condescending jackass. Put your big-boy movie-lover pants on and get to grips with the point that people have differing viewpoints than yours. Life will be a lot more fun once you do that.
See? Now you've got me doing it.
FeedTheCollapse
2012-02-06 07:29:55 PM
DuudeStanky
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Nuts to Blade Runner. Give me a Neuromancer movie
it's supposed to be in the works. As someone who's only just read the novel for the first time within the past 2 years, I think it would have a really hard time coming off as anything other than a very late-to-the-game Matrix knock-off.
James Scameron
2012-02-06 08:00:20 PM
AgtSmithReloaded
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James Scameron: Snipped
Dial it down a few notches, pal. As intelligent as I'm betting you actually are, you're lessening the value of that knowledge by sounding like a rude, condescending jackass. Put your big-boy movie-lover pants on and get to grips with the point that people have differing viewpoints than yours. Life will be a lot more fun once you do that.
See? Now you've got me doing it.
oh ok..great advice...
here let me try.. hmm
"maybe um the whole reason for robots is that real people were too important to work and in reality they were like..uh..sick or something yeah..and then um..they had these like robots with opinions about stuff..like magic margerine right? but then the film maker could make it so we understood that without it ever being a part of the margerine..I MEAN THE MOOVIEEE..ha ha...
so that being said, the reason I don't get it is because of a plot hole filled with margarine!"
how's that nonsense? is that ok?
maybe i should try talking complete nonsense gibberish more often hey?
man i should go over into the politics threads and pass myself off as an expert there too..
maybe i can get white knighted there too!
wow..now i feel right at home...
hey since we're here, lets talk about a Scooby Doo Reboot!
man, wouldn't that be awesome if like..um...the guys and gals got together with Shaggy and Scooby and it was CGI and stuff and...like Andy Serkis was Scooby and like they said THOSE DARN KIDS and stuff too?
I just know i'm right aren't i?
like that? is that how it's done?
wow that was fun taking total leave of reality and talking complete crap because i like to see my own gibbersh in electrified text...
i need to do that more often...i just can't wait for another superhero thread where i can ponder the "possibilities" aloud ....speculating about speculations... defending my digital detritus...
welcome to fark...
MrEricSir
2012-02-06 08:19:03 PM
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