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(Daily Mail) Stupid Moderate drinking, which was bad for you, then good for you, then bad for you, then good for you, then bad for you, then good for you, is now bad for you again, doubling your risk of pancreatitis and cancer of the bowel, mouth, throat and neck   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 61
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2012-02-05 03:06:35 PM
Good thing I'm not a moderate drinker.
 
2012-02-05 03:09:51 PM
I'll drink to that.

/I'll drink to anything
 
2012-02-05 03:14:09 PM
Well, there is your problem, you moderate drinkers aren't drinking the required follow up drinks needed to kill the cells sent haywire by the first two drinks.

Amateurs.
 
2012-02-05 03:15:50 PM
Mugato: Good thing I'm not a moderate drinker.

Obviously not. You're a farker.
 
2012-02-05 03:17:31 PM
Mugato: Good thing I'm not a moderate drinker.

This
 
2012-02-05 03:20:16 PM
*sips Bloody Mary*
 
2012-02-05 03:29:15 PM
what_now: *sips Bloody Mary*

I see what you did there.
 
2012-02-05 03:35:11 PM
In another, related study, life has a 100% mortality rate.

Do you want to spend it sober, eating tofurkey and drinking the juice from lawn mower clippings? You have that right, and more power to you if that's how you want to live.
 
2012-02-05 03:40:12 PM
Cheers!
 
2012-02-05 04:06:37 PM
Common sense. Use it.
You know what causes cancer and stress? Reading all these studies with results and dire warnings that change monthly.
 
2012-02-05 04:20:32 PM
Beerguy: Well, there is your problem, you moderate drinkers aren't drinking the required follow up drinks needed to kill the cells sent haywire by the first two drinks.

Amateurs.


See, this is what I always said. My idea was the "dahmers love zombie's theory of alcohol tolerance". Since viruses and bacteria are very, very small, they obviously have a much lower alcohol tolerance then you do. It's just like when you give the 12-year-old next door a couple of shots of Everclear in her Kool-aid -- knocks her the hell out, right? But bacteria and viruses are WAY smaller than she is. So an amount of alcohol that will give you a serious buzz should be enough to flat out kill all of those little bugs. Cancer should be the same way. The new DNA in those cells hasn't had nearly enough time to build up a tolerance to YOUR level of drinking, so going on a weeklong bender should do it.

/i am not that type of doctor
//don't do this
 
2012-02-05 04:59:35 PM
 
2012-02-05 05:12:45 PM
Drinking what?

/ Yes, I already asked subby's mom - cut me some slack, okay?
 
2012-02-05 05:12:58 PM
Shostie: Eggs good for you this week (new window)

Those egg council creeps got to you too, huh?
 
2012-02-05 05:14:10 PM
I'm glad they finally cleared that up.
 
2012-02-05 05:17:57 PM
ecmoRandomNumbers: In another, related study, life has a 100% mortality rate.

Do you want to spend it sober, eating tofurkey and drinking the juice from lawn mower clippings? You have that right, and more power to you if that's how you want to live.


As obvious as that is, it's actually kind of eye opening.
 
2012-02-05 05:21:24 PM
I'll stop when they pry my glass from my cold dead hands.

I've been meaning to try Yamazaki whisky for a while now, and decided to finally try it today.
 
2012-02-05 05:22:59 PM
dahmers love zombie: Beerguy: Well, there is your problem, you moderate drinkers aren't drinking the required follow up drinks needed to kill the cells sent haywire by the first two drinks.

Amateurs.

See, this is what I always said. My idea was the "dahmers love zombie's theory of alcohol tolerance". Since viruses and bacteria are very, very small, they obviously have a much lower alcohol tolerance then you do. It's just like when you give the 12-year-old next door a couple of shots of Everclear in her Kool-aid -- knocks her the hell out, right? But bacteria and viruses are WAY smaller than she is. So an amount of alcohol that will give you a serious buzz should be enough to flat out kill all of those little bugs. Cancer should be the same way. The new DNA in those cells hasn't had nearly enough time to build up a tolerance to YOUR level of drinking, so going on a weeklong bender should do it.

/i am not that type of doctor
//don't do this


Why are you getting the 12 year old girl next door drunk? I mean I realize its probably 'For Science' but still.
 
2012-02-05 05:23:25 PM
ecmoRandomNumbers: In another, related study, life has a 100% mortality rate.

Do you want to spend it sober, eating tofurkey and drinking the juice from lawn mower clippings? You have that right, and more power to you if that's how you want to live.


THIS. just don't use the law to impose this shiat on me or my family.
 
2012-02-05 05:24:08 PM
All at once?
 
2012-02-05 05:25:21 PM
Well, good thing I've stocked up on booze so I can avoid this moderation disease ...
 
2012-02-05 05:26:06 PM
Only tangential to the article, but I've had pancreatitis before. It's about the single most painful experience I ever had. I don't recommend it to anyone.
 
2012-02-05 05:27:37 PM
That's the same thing they said about sucking a man's dick.

Tellya what else, if Mitt Romney gets elected president, he'll impose a law to ban drinking. They (the Moroms) have similar reasons as noted in the article for not drinking coffee or tea.
 
2012-02-05 05:28:54 PM
Fun will kill you. Not having fun will kill you. FARK YOU!

You know what? I'm going to drink my goddamn coffee and my goddamn alcohol and I'm gonna eat some goddamn pork and smoke the occasional goddamn cigarette or joint and I'll goddamn die happy!

/goddamnit!
 
2012-02-05 05:30:47 PM
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/11/lies-damned-lies- a nd-medical-science/8269/ (new window)

This array suggested a bigger, underlying dysfunction, and Ioannidis thought he knew what it was. "The studies were biased," he says. "Sometimes they were overtly biased. Sometimes it was difficult to see the bias, but it was there." Researchers headed into their studies wanting certain results-and, lo and behold, they were getting them. We think of the scientific process as being objective, rigorous, and even ruthless in separating out what is true from what we merely wish to be true, but in fact it's easy to manipulate results, even unintentionally or unconsciously. "At every step in the process, there is room to distort results, a way to make a stronger claim or to select what is going to be concluded," says Ioannidis. "There is an intellectual conflict of interest that pressures researchers to find whatever it is that is most likely to get them funded."

...Still, Ioannidis anticipated that the community might shrug off his findings: sure, a lot of dubious research makes it into journals, but we researchers and physicians know to ignore it and focus on the good stuff, so what's the big deal? The other paper headed off that claim. He zoomed in on 49 of the most highly regarded research findings in medicine over the previous 13 years, as judged by the science community's two standard measures: the papers had appeared in the journals most widely cited in research articles, and the 49 articles themselves were the most widely cited articles in these journals. These were articles that helped lead to the widespread popularity of treatments such as the use of hormone-replacement therapy for menopausal women, vitamin E to reduce the risk of heart disease, coronary stents to ward off heart attacks, and daily low-dose aspirin to control blood pressure and prevent heart attacks and strokes. Ioannidis was putting his contentions to the test not against run-of-the-mill research, or even merely well-accepted research, but against the absolute tip of the research pyramid. Of the 49 articles, 45 claimed to have uncovered effective interventions. Thirty-four of these claims had been retested, and 14 of these, or 41 percent, had been convincingly shown to be wrong or significantly exaggerated. If between a third and a half of the most acclaimed research in medicine was proving untrustworthy, the scope and impact of the problem were undeniable. That article was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association.
 
2012-02-05 05:32:40 PM
I wish they'd make up their minds already. This is making it hard to figure out which vice will kill me first.
 
2012-02-05 05:33:14 PM
Science : "tiny amounts of alcohol may have some benefits, large amounts are bad."
News : "alcohol will make you immortal... One drop will kill you."
Fark : "blarg, everyone dies, shiatcock"
 
2012-02-05 05:33:51 PM
MONSTERTRUCK: Tellya what else, if Mitt Romney gets elected president, he'll impose a law to ban drinking. They (the Moroms) have similar reasons as noted in the article for not drinking coffee or tea.

Yeah well the mormons were also hard core racists until like the 1970s. So even if Romney isn't going to completely downplay his mormonism, the President simply doesn't have the power to ban alcohol (again). Farking Emperor Palpatine couldn't swing that shiat.
 
2012-02-05 05:36:03 PM
What???
Drink=Good
me no understand
 
2012-02-05 05:37:56 PM
Couldn't they have waited til tomorrow to make it bad for me?

It's bad enough that PBS had to create domestic strife around the country with a mega-marathon of Downton Abbey and Andrea Bocelli Live in Central Park. Now they have to make my beer unhealthy just as I'm about to drink it.
 
2012-02-05 05:38:28 PM
dahmers love zombie: Cancer should be the same way. The new DNA in those cells hasn't had nearly enough time to build up a tolerance to YOUR level of drinking, so going on a weeklong bender should do it.

You have it backwards.

See, viruses and bacteria come from outside the body. They're strangers in a strange land, and get clobbered by unprecedented ethanol as you have pointed out.

Cancer, on the other hand, is a mutation from within the body. Cancer is made out of stuff that grew up with you and, quite frankly, is tired of dealing with your shiat.
 
2012-02-05 05:38:48 PM
New Farkin User Name: What???
Drink=Good
me no understand



You're in one of those Kentucky counties like below, right?
 
2012-02-05 05:39:16 PM
Scruffinator: Shostie: Eggs good for you this week (new window)

Those egg council creeps got to you too, huh?


i385.photobucket.com

You better run, egg!
 
2012-02-05 05:45:46 PM
Double means instead of 1 chance in 200,000, it's 2 chances in 200,000.


I'll have a beer.
 
2012-02-05 05:48:11 PM
TFA suggests not drinking at home before heading out. I don't understand that. Drinking at home is so much cheaper. Get shiat faced, then go out in public and embarrass yourself. It's better than clipping coupons or using groupon.
 
2012-02-05 05:49:51 PM
Alcohol makes other people less tedious, and food less bland.
 
2012-02-05 05:50:29 PM
Well it's from the Daily Mail, of course it causes cancer.
 
2012-02-05 05:53:19 PM
Farkit, my liver will shut down long before cancer gets me.

/even if it doesn't, couple dozen uppers and a case of booze will fix everything...
 
2012-02-05 05:54:47 PM
That's fine, as long as it doesn't hurt my liver.
 
2012-02-05 06:01:31 PM
Mister Peejay: See, viruses and bacteria come from outside the body. They're strangers in a strange land, and get clobbered by unprecedented ethanol as you have pointed out.

Cancer, on the other hand, is a mutation from within the body. Cancer is made out of stuff that grew up with you and, quite frankly, is tired of dealing with your shiat.


Not necessarily. Look at HPV. It's not accurate to lump all cancers in the same category as if they are all caused by the same thing.
 
2012-02-05 06:05:48 PM
Oh, fer cryin' out loud, what the fark is a person "supposed" to do? Drink distilled water, eat 2.5oz of meat styled protein, a single poached radish leaf, go to bed by 8pm sleep exactly 7.5-8.00 hours of uninterrupted sleep, upon waking yoga then a brisk jog, bathe with an approved vegan soap, off to work on public transportation, as an enviromental activist???? Rinse 'n repeat????
This Farkette drinks her single malt scotch neat, mixed drink of choice-Negroni, wine-red-burgundy, champagne-brut-Moet white star, likes her burgers rare, goes to bed whenever, does not exercise (yet I remain slim!), believes in the goodness of bacon, mashed potatoes with butter, dry aged fillet seared in a cast iron skillet, dark chocolate in any form is to be savored at any time, and my all time favorite breakfast food is a slice of triple layered chocolate fudge cake.
 
2012-02-05 06:08:34 PM
unitednihilists: Alcohol makes other people less tedious, and food less bland.

"I drink to make other people more interesting."- Humphrey Bogart
 
2012-02-05 06:08:47 PM
Well that's just depressing...I need a drink.
 
2012-02-05 06:09:17 PM
I won't bother reading the article past the headline. Doubles it, huh? Doubles from what? .5% to 1%? Small percentages, especially astronomically low percentages are still low even if doubled, tripled, quadrupled. Articles like these are misleading and the tactic is in poor taste. Anyone that's ever taken an elementary level statistics course or has common sense knows that.
 
2012-02-05 06:33:17 PM
Artist: This Farkette drinks her single malt scotch neat, mixed drink of choice-Negroni, wine-red-burgundy, champagne-brut-Moet white star, likes her burgers rare, goes to bed whenever, does not exercise (yet I remain slim!), believes in the goodness of bacon, mashed potatoes with butter, dry aged fillet seared in a cast iron skillet, dark chocolate in any form is to be savored at any time, and my all time favorite breakfast food is a slice of triple layered chocolate fudge cake.

Sounds like you're a girl who's fun to party with.
 
2012-02-05 06:38:17 PM
beer4breakfast: Artist: This Farkette drinks her single malt scotch neat, mixed drink of choice-Negroni, wine-red-burgundy, champagne-brut-Moet white star, likes her burgers rare, goes to bed whenever, does not exercise (yet I remain slim!), believes in the goodness of bacon, mashed potatoes with butter, dry aged fillet seared in a cast iron skillet, dark chocolate in any form is to be savored at any time, and my all time favorite breakfast food is a slice of triple layered chocolate fudge cake.

Sounds like you're a girl who's fun to party with.


I was about to say...
 
2012-02-05 06:40:38 PM
People in Okinawa drink a lot and they have a long life span. Same with people in Greece and France. I think these cultures evolve diets over time that can emeliorate the effects of drinking. Such as eating bitter melon and natto in Okinawa. It's a mistake to isolate the drinking in these studies from the overall diet. I'm not a doctor, though.
 
2012-02-05 06:44:37 PM
Mugato: MONSTERTRUCK: Tellya what else, if Mitt Romney gets elected president, he'll impose a law to ban drinking. They (the Moroms) have similar reasons as noted in the article for not drinking coffee or tea.

Yeah well the mormons were also hard core racists until like the 1970s. So even if Romney isn't going to completely downplay his mormonism, the President simply doesn't have the power to ban alcohol (again). Farking Emperor Palpatine couldn't swing that shiat.


What do you mean "were?"

They still are for the most part (black skin IS the mark of Cain, you know). It's that now they don't withhold the priesthood from black males.
 
2012-02-05 06:46:11 PM
Putting something in your mouth that has gone beyond the point of rotting is BAD for you?
 
2012-02-05 06:48:41 PM
Shyla: Putting something in your mouth that has gone beyond the point of rotting is BAD for you?

Geez, I wish you would of told me that before I started shacking up with subby's mom.
 
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