Someone bring me a baby, a laboratory rat, and an air horn. Clearly, there is only one way we're going to solve this problem... >_>

SuperMegaUltraFark: It's just some research paper for a periodical.

And it's less persuasive than all the conflicting DB Cooper identities. Less interesting to say the least.

So the shrink knew the boy had autism in 1920, when it wasn't even defined as we know it until the early 40's?

ArkAngel: So the shrink knew the boy had autism in 1920, when it wasn't even defined as we know it until the early 40's?

From Wikipedia:

A few examples of autistic symptoms and treatments were described long before autism was named. The Table Talk of Martin Luther, compiled by his notetaker, Mathesius, contains the story of a 12-year-old boy who may have been severely autistic.[169] Luther reportedly thought the boy was a soulless mass of flesh possessed by the devil, and suggested that he be suffocated, although a later critic has cast doubt on the veracity of this report.[170] The earliest well-documented case of autism is that of Hugh Blair of Borgue, as detailed in a 1747 court case in which his brother successfully petitioned to annul Blair's marriage to gain Blair's inheritance.[171] The Wild Boy of Aveyron, a feral child caught in 1798, showed several signs of autism; the medical student Jean Itard treated him with a behavioral program designed to help him form social attachments and to induce speech via imitation.[172]

The New Latin word autismus (English translation autism) was coined by the Swiss psychiatrist Eugen Bleuler in 1910 as he was defining symptoms of schizophrenia. He derived it from the Greek word autós (αὐτός, meaning self), and used it to mean morbid self-admiration, referring to "autistic withdrawal of the patient to his fantasies, against which any influence from outside becomes an intolerable disturbance".[173]

Bathia_Mapes: A few examples of autistic symptoms and treatments were described long before autism was named.

Your information supports very well the claim that bogus headline is bogus.

Also, autism being a spectrum disorder means even normal people "display signs and symptoms" in the course of their life. Perhaps the kid just had an off day, or liked mice. I like mice. I've never been afraid of them. Rats are just big mice.

hitchking: Bathia_Mapes: ArkAngel: So the shrink knew the boy had autism in 1920, when it wasn't even defined as we know it until the early 40's?

From Wikipedia:

A few examples of autistic symptoms and treatments were described long before autism was named. The Table Talk of Martin Luther, compiled by his notetaker, Mathesius, contains the story of a 12-year-old boy who may have been severely autistic.[169] Luther reportedly thought the boy was a soulless mass of flesh possessed by the devil, and suggested that he be suffocated, although a later critic has cast doubt on the veracity of this report.[170] The earliest well-documented case of autism is that of Hugh Blair of Borgue, as detailed in a 1747 court case in which his brother successfully petitioned to annul Blair's marriage to gain Blair's inheritance.[171] The Wild Boy of Aveyron, a feral child caught in 1798, showed several signs of autism; the medical student Jean Itard treated him with a behavioral program designed to help him form social attachments and to induce speech via imitation.[172]

The New Latin word autismus (English translation autism) was coined by the Swiss psychiatrist Eugen Bleuler in 1910 as he was defining symptoms of schizophrenia. He derived it from the Greek word autós (αὐτός, meaning self), and used it to mean morbid self-admiration, referring to "autistic withdrawal of the patient to his fantasies, against which any influence from outside becomes an intolerable disturbance".[173]

As much as I enjoyed reading that, you should probably add a few sentences of your own to explain how this quotation supports your point. Or, it might be a good idea to state what your point is.

Are you suggesting that the researcher in question would have known about autism? If so, can you explain how your quote supports that point?

Exactly. A case of "possession" and a pseudo-schizophrenic diagnosis does not equal a diagnosis of autism. Real research into autism was started by Hans Asperger in the late 30's and Leo Kanner in the early 40's.

hitchking: Bathia_Mapes: ArkAngel: So the shrink knew the boy had autism in 1920, when it wasn't even defined as we know it until the early 40's?

From Wikipedia:

A few examples of autistic symptoms and treatments were described long before autism was named. The Table Talk of Martin Luther, compiled by his notetaker, Mathesius, contains the story of a 12-year-old boy who may have been severely autistic.[169] Luther reportedly thought the boy was a soulless mass of flesh possessed by the devil, and suggested that he be suffocated, although a later critic has cast doubt on the veracity of this report.[170] The earliest well-documented case of autism is that of Hugh Blair of Borgue, as detailed in a 1747 court case in which his brother successfully petitioned to annul Blair's marriage to gain Blair's inheritance.[171] The Wild Boy of Aveyron, a feral child caught in 1798, showed several signs of autism; the medical student Jean Itard treated him with a behavioral program designed to help him form social attachments and to induce speech via imitation.[172]

The New Latin word autismus (English translation autism) was coined by the Swiss psychiatrist Eugen Bleuler in 1910 as he was defining symptoms of schizophrenia. He derived it from the Greek word autós (αὐτός, meaning self), and used it to mean morbid self-admiration, referring to "autistic withdrawal of the patient to his fantasies, against which any influence from outside becomes an intolerable disturbance".[173]

As much as I enjoyed reading that, you should probably add a few sentences of your own to explain how this quotation supports your point. Or, it might be a good idea to state what your point is.

Are you suggesting that the researcher in question would have known about autism? If so, can you explain how your quote supports that point?

Exactly. A case of "possession" and a pseudo-schizophrenic diagnosis does not equal a diagnosis of autism. Real research into autism was started by Hans Asperger in the late 30's and Leo Kanner in the early 40's.
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Fine, change the headline to read "retard waterbrain" to suit your levels of anal this morn.

Basically, the dr in question knew the baby was not "healthy/normal", and knew so from the start.

Why no testing for fear of Tiger, Dragon, Snake, Cock, Pig, Bull, Horse, Hare, or Sheep?

/Happy Lunar New Year

baka-san: Fine, change the headline to read "retard waterbrain" to suit your levels of anal this morn.

Basically, the dr in question knew the baby was not "healthy/normal", and knew so from the start.

This. The point is that he knew something was not right and continued anyway.

we're so sorry, Little Albert.

ArkAngel: Real research into autism was started by Hans Asperger in the late 30's and Leo Kanner in the early 40's.

They started it!!! THOSE BASTARDS!!!

Watson was a monster. We all knew this.

Also, anecdote about BF Skinner, for any other psych nerds out there: one of my committee members went to Harvard for grad school, and he said there was this legend about BF Skinner. He apparently hit on every woman that he met, and they finally brought him in to the Dean and told him to lay off. He explained that it was a base-rate issue -- the more he asked, the more likely he was to get laid. The single best and easiest way for him to get laid was to throw as many lines out into the water as possible. So he was both a total horndog, (which if you've seen pictures of him is horrifying to think of) AND he was kind of autistic in his approach to human interactions. Horny aspies, just what we need more of in the world.

baka-san: Fine, change the headline to read "retard waterbrain" to suit your levels of anal this morn.

Basically, the dr in question knew the baby was not "healthy/normal", and knew so from the start.

How about we change the headline to something remotely resembling English and not the word salad subby gave us? And is this the first time subby's ever heard of Baby Albert? wow.

And don't forget, we're talking about one paper that is apparently attempting to diagnose autism by watching films of Baby Albert during these sessions only. That's like deciding someone's an alcoholic by watching only vids of him at frat parties.

I particularly like how they try to drum up controversy by saying it casts doubt on the findings.

Because this is the only piece of evidence that classical fear conditioning occurs in humans.