that place is falling apart

calbert: that place is falling apart

I LOVE modern ruins! I wanna go so badly! Now I have three choices for my next road trip.... Mutter museum, Centralia, PA, or this place. And dude wtf, I'm a New Yorker, how did I not know of this place?! I ought to kick myself in the head for such unforgivable ignorance.

batcookie: I LOVE modern ruins! I wanna go so badly! Now I have three choices for my next road trip.... Mutter museum, Centralia, PA, or this place. And dude wtf, I'm a New Yorker, how did I not know of this place?! I ought to kick myself in the head for such unforgivable ignorance.

Good luck getting an access to North Brother Island. The article says it's guarded by armed Coast Guard patrols and the historian who took the pictures had to get permission. The only others allowed access are a few bird experts since some protected species reside on the island.

ReapTheChaos:

Bathia_Mapes:

OddObject:

Uh, duh, thanks guys, I can read. Doesn't mean I can't try to get a peak from the outside, maybe rent a boat and look from afar.

batcookie: ReapTheChaos:

Bathia_Mapes:

OddObject:

Uh, duh, thanks guys, I can read. Doesn't mean I can't try to get a peak from the outside, maybe rent a boat and look from afar.

You probably could get away with that.

ladyfortuna: Check out the Abandoned Places LJ community (yes, some of us still have LJ...) - some truly amazing stuff on there.

http://abandonedplaces.livejournal.com/

You are now the love of my life for showing me this. Well... at least until my non-existent attention span is pulled away by something shiny.

TugboatTerry: "Patrolled by armed coastguard"?
No. It's not. I Sail past North Brother often. There's no dedicated patrol. Sure, coasties will zip past the island on their way to.somewhere else, but nobody is tasked woth guarding NYC's precious rubble. Even of they do see you, well, its not against the law to paddle around the island (Until they are out of sight)

Isn't Rikers just a stone's throw away though?
Doesn't Rikers still have the prison barge in that area also?

Tsar_Bomba1: Man that Typhoid Mary was quite the biatch...

Hey I'm jumping to Mary's defense on this one. To call her a biatch would imply that her spreading of disease was intentional. She was just ignorant as to the concept of being a carrier - I mean why should she believe it's her causing the sickness? She isn't sick, she has no symptoms. She was a poor Irish maid, it's not like she could afford the education, and keep in mind that this was hardly common knowledge in her time. Pasteur's germ theory only came to light 20 years or so before she was born, and at this time there were still plenty of people from the lower classes who didn't buy into it because it was something they couldn't see or substatiate (ironic considering that these people were often so very religious, but I digress...) Add to that the fact that she was a carrier without symptoms, and she thought all those farkers were stupid for blaming her.

TommyymmoT: TugboatTerry: "Patrolled by armed coastguard"?
No. It's not. I Sail past North Brother often. There's no dedicated patrol. Sure, coasties will zip past the island on their way to.somewhere else, but nobody is tasked woth guarding NYC's precious rubble. Even of they do see you, well, its not against the law to paddle around the island (Until they are out of sight)

Isn't Rikers just a stone's throw away though?
Doesn't Rikers still have the prison barge in that area also?

If Google maps is correct, they're about 8 miles apart.

evilsofa: Name_Omitted: What I don't get is with the price of real estate in New York, how can places like this still exist?

Two reasons. First, look up North Brother Island on Google Maps; it's right next door to Rikers, the big NY jail island. Second, it's now a protected bird sanctuary, along with the nearby South Brother Island.

Also, the closest land mass is Hunts Point, which isn't exactly the prettiest, most inviting section of the South Bronx.
You won't hear of any rich people keeping a summer home there any time soon.

TommyymmoT:

isn't exactly the prettiest, most inviting

South Bronx

Are you from the Department of Redundancy Department? :-)

evilsofa: Bathia_Mapes: If Google maps is correct, they're about 8 miles apart.

The Google Maps I used showed North Brother island to be less than half a mile from Riker's.

I probably screwed up somewhere. Sorry.

batcookie: Hey I'm jumping to Mary's defense on this one. To call her a biatch would imply that her spreading of disease was intentional. She was just ignorant as to the concept of being a carrier - I mean why should she believe it's her causing the sickness?

She had the concept of being a carrier for an infectious disease quite thoroughly explained to her during the first three years of her first stay on North Brother Island. And after that, she was let go after signing an affidavit swearing she would never again work in any food-related industry. But she did. And she wasn't found out from any close monitoring, she was found out by health officials investigating an outbreak of typhoid in the hotel where she worked. After that, she was returned to North Brother Island for the rest of her life. And I wouldn't have had any pity on her after the first time.

Bathia_Mapes: TommyymmoT: TugboatTerry: "Patrolled by armed coastguard"?
No. It's not. I Sail past North Brother often. There's no dedicated patrol. Sure, coasties will zip past the island on their way to.somewhere else, but nobody is tasked woth guarding NYC's precious rubble. Even of they do see you, well, its not against the law to paddle around the island (Until they are out of sight)

Isn't Rikers just a stone's throw away though?
Doesn't Rikers still have the prison barge in that area also?

If Google maps is correct, they're about 8 miles apart.

Nah. On Google earth, the Bronx is about 5 blocks away, and Rikers is about 7. (new window)
Pic was too large to post.
The Barge is that thing on top at Baretto St, jutting into the water.

Baron Harkonnen: batcookie: Hey I'm jumping to Mary's defense on this one. To call her a biatch would imply that her spreading of disease was intentional. She was just ignorant as to the concept of being a carrier - I mean why should she believe it's her causing the sickness?

She had the concept of being a carrier for an infectious disease quite thoroughly explained to her during the first three years of her first stay on North Brother Island. And after that, she was let go after signing an affidavit swearing she would never again work in any food-related industry. But she did. And she wasn't found out from any close monitoring, she was found out by health officials investigating an outbreak of typhoid in the hotel where she worked. After that, she was returned to North Brother Island for the rest of her life. And I wouldn't have had any pity on her after the first time.

I don't argue that it was stupid and she should have listened to those who explained it to her, and they did on several occasions, I know, but the way you guys put it you make it sound like she was doing it out of malice or indifference. She just didn't believe them. Just like some equally silly people nowadays don't believe in global warming or evolution, science be damned. I was only saying she was ignorant, not a psychopath. She really didn't mean it, but stupidity can be dangerous.

ryarger: batcookie: Tsar_Bomba1: Man that Typhoid Mary was quite the biatch...

Hey I'm jumping to Mary's defense on this one. To call her a biatch would imply that her spreading of disease was intentional. She was just ignorant as to the concept of being a carrier - I mean why should she believe it's her causing the sickness? She isn't sick, she has no symptoms. She was a poor Irish maid, it's not like she could afford the education, and keep in mind that this was hardly common knowledge in her time. Pasteur's germ theory only came to light 20 years or so before she was born, and at this time there were still plenty of people from the lower classes who didn't buy into it because it was something they couldn't see or substatiate (ironic considering that these people were often so very religious, but I digress...) Add to that the fact that she was a carrier without symptoms, and she thought all those farkers were stupid for blaming her.

While I do agree that her life does need to be taken in context with her time, I have to point out that a mere 20 years before I was born, man had not set foot on the moon, Eniac was the bees knees and no one had heard of AIDS.

That doesn't mean that I have an excuse for staring at my iPhone like Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer.

You should see my mom at the computer.

batcookie: I LOVE modern ruins! I wanna go so badly! Now I have three choices for my next road trip.... Mutter museum, Centralia, PA, or this place. And dude wtf, I'm a New Yorker, how did I not know of this place?! I ought to kick myself in the head for such unforgivable ignorance.

There are a bunch around NYC. The show 'Off limits' on the Travel Channel did a whole episode on NYC's forgotten islands.

clear_prop: batcookie: I LOVE modern ruins! I wanna go so badly! Now I have three choices for my next road trip.... Mutter museum, Centralia, PA, or this place. And dude wtf, I'm a New Yorker, how did I not know of this place?! I ought to kick myself in the head for such unforgivable ignorance.

There are a bunch around NYC. The show 'Off limits' on the Travel Channel did a whole episode on NYC's forgotten islands.

I know of a few of the islands in question, but this show sounds like it's definitely worth finding.

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