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(MSNBC)   Surprising number of Americans unhappy that North Atlantic oscillation has resulted in mild snow-free winter for most regions. "I am disgusted that golfers are golfing on my cross-country ski course," says climatologist   (msnbc.msn.com) divider line 102
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2012-02-05 12:14:43 AM  
I'm in Colorado and had to dig 2 feet of snow off my car today, so I'm getting a kick...
 
2012-02-05 01:26:49 AM  
At least it's not the standard BS about global warming causing COLDER winters.
 
2012-02-05 03:18:27 AM  
a friend in chicago just lost one of her beehives.
stupid warm january
 
2012-02-05 03:39:11 AM  
I'm disgusted that golfers are golfing, period. It's an awful, awful game (not a sport). I'm pretty much okay with the winter, but it does make me worry about the summer. Last summer I spent days choking on dust and smoke from Arizona, about 150 miles away; it was hot, it was ridiculously dry and the constant fire danger forced the closure of the national forest nearby, which pretty much cancelled half my plans for the summer. If we don't get any snow, and we have another summer like the last one, things are going to get bad.
 
Juc
2012-02-05 03:42:39 AM  
I'm pretty hesitant to say it's the year without winter, until we're actually well into spring or summer.

I've a feeling this crap is going to bite us in the ass come march. I've seen it at -40 for long stretches in that month, I'd rather not see it again.
 
2012-02-05 03:49:15 AM  
In NC we've usually seen long stretch of cold and wet punctuated by one good snow storm. This "winter" we've only gotten a little cold and wet, and the wild daffodils are not only up, they are starting to bloom a month early. I'm originally from Maine, so I miss not seeing at least a little snow. :(

And yes, we were still in recovery from drought. This has probably set us back.
 
2012-02-05 04:06:36 AM  
My MIL's irises are coming up. In February. Normally they come up in maybe... late April. More like May. Additionally, we make maple syrup on their property around the end of March; this year we may not even bother tapping the trees, because they require about a month of solid cold weather to properly produce sap for it.

Add to that the assured survival of bugs that eat the maples, and the Emerald Ash Borer that's killing all the ash trees around here... yeah, I'm not happy about this whole lack of winter, as much as snow and temperatures in the single digits irritate me.

TL;DR: MAPLE SYRUP IS GOING TO SHOOT UP IN PRICE, FOLKS... Among other things, I'm sure.
 
Skr
2012-02-05 04:10:47 AM  

Juc: I'm pretty hesitant to say it's the year without winter, until we're actually well into spring or summer.

I've a feeling this crap is going to bite us in the ass come march. I've seen it at -40 for long stretches in that month, I'd rather not see it again.


I've been getting that feeling as well. Everyone else in the household is ignoring my "The end (of false spring) is nigh!" but I've been thinking winter is going strike with a vengeance. A Nor' Easter' is going to start the party and we're going to have the hurricane equivalent of north american winter distilled into late february/march. I'd loved to be proved wrong but...


I guess if nothing else I hope this somehow decreases the mosquito population for the year. Doubtful though -_-
 
2012-02-05 04:14:14 AM  
The problem with a snow free winter is that it usually leads to droughts in the summer.

And even though the article made no mention of climate change or global warming I'm sure some people will be along shortly to talk about it anyway. Let's hope the Super Bowl distracts them.
 
2012-02-05 04:33:45 AM  
I'm confused on why people actually want snow. 2 Winters in Connecticut and 1 in Chicago were enough for me to never want to see snow again.
 
2012-02-05 04:42:13 AM  
2.bp.blogspot.com

Aren't you ashamed of yourself?
 
2012-02-05 05:14:12 AM  

lousyskater: I'm confused on why people actually want snow. 2 Winters in Connecticut and 1 in Chicago were enough for me to never want to see snow again.


A. No snow leads to drought.

B. For those of us raised with it, it is not such a daunting prospect.

C. In fact, no snow is down-right unnatural.

D. People are so unused to it here in NC, three inches makes the entire town shut down. Free day off!
 
2012-02-05 06:21:02 AM  
What do you mean the weather isn't the exact same every year?! GLOBAL WARMING!
 
2012-02-05 07:08:32 AM  
No skiing for me at all this last winter :(
 
2012-02-05 07:11:22 AM  

lousyskater: I'm confused on why people actually want snow. 2 Winters in Connecticut and 1 in Chicago were enough for me to never want to see snow again.


Honestly, snow just makes me happy. I am incapable of not feeling at least slightly happy when it's snowing. It's just so peaceful and cozy. Sure, it's a pain to shovel, but I don't really mind that, nor do I mind cleaning my car off. Heck, the only thing about snow that really bothers me at all, is the fact that folks here in DC can't drive in snow worth a damn. I really hope we get more winter here.
 
2012-02-05 07:26:17 AM  
I'm about to head out onto the slopes at one of the larger ski areas in VT. They're about 85% open and are surviving on the one big storm from a few weeks ago plus aggressive man mades stuff. Not exactly the best skiing but I'll take what I can get. I think spring skiing is going to suck this year. Last year I skied november through april.
 
2012-02-05 07:44:06 AM  
Well, the world needs climatologists too!

www.lifeintherough.com
 
2012-02-05 07:51:54 AM  

Skr: Juc: I'm pretty hesitant to say it's the year without winter, until we're actually well into spring or summer.

I've a feeling this crap is going to bite us in the ass come march. I've seen it at -40 for long stretches in that month, I'd rather not see it again.

I've been getting that feeling as well. Everyone else in the household is ignoring my "The end (of false spring) is nigh!" but I've been thinking winter is going strike with a vengeance. A Nor' Easter' is going to start the party and we're going to have the hurricane equivalent of north american winter distilled into late february/march. I'd loved to be proved wrong but...


I guess if nothing else I hope this somehow decreases the mosquito population for the year. Doubtful though -_-


That's pretty much how I'm calling it too. Either a late blizzard or a cold,wet and windy spring that suddenly shifts to a brutally hot summer. And doesn't a mild winter the bugs will be awful?
 
2012-02-05 08:18:22 AM  
I'm one of those that would prefer 8' of snow over 2 months than 60*F days back to back to back like we've been having in DC.
 
2012-02-05 08:21:08 AM  
I am more in the middle. It is cold right now, 28 degrees. It may get up to 50. So I ain't out playing golf or anything. If it is cold, I want snow. I am a Michigander, We go out and play in the snow. Now I can't do anything. Except look at the ugly gray landscape.

Also, I spent a small fortune landscaping my yard with flowering trees and plants. This weather will ruin that show too.
 
2012-02-05 08:38:33 AM  
I'm not sure I'm disgruntled but I've yet to have to fire up the snowblower yet this year... had probably put about 20 hours on it at this point last year.

I'm a little annoyed that it looks like I'm going to have to be mowing around at least a ton of pellets all summer (bought 3 tons in September cause we used 3.5 tons last winter... still have 400 lbs left in the first ton).

/30 miles NW of Albany
 
2012-02-05 08:45:33 AM  
Up here in Southern Maine it's been cold but no snow. I'm like, bring it on already! If it's going to be cold and crappy out we may as well get a dump of snow. The worst we got was a measly 4", not counting the oddball blizzard we got in October. Yes, October.
 
2012-02-05 09:03:58 AM  
I love how when winter is cold, the Global Warming denialists use it as "proof" that the Earth isn't getting warmer. Then, when winter is warm, the Global Warming denialists scream about how the weather has nothing to do with the climate.

Meanwhile, those who actually know what they're talking about (hint: the weather has little to do with the climate) just stay quiet and collect data.
 
2012-02-05 09:10:53 AM  
We're going through an El Nina, which is Spanish for The Nina.

/obscure?
 
2012-02-05 09:12:24 AM  
Sorry, my fault. After 12 PA winters, I finally bought a snowblower, so of course it isn't going to snow. The one little bit that we had so far wasn't even enough for the thing to pick up.

On the other hand, gasoline is almost 4 bucks a gallon, and I haven't used any for snow removal, and it's been cold enough that the lawn still doesn't need mowing.
 
2012-02-05 09:26:33 AM  

Baryogenesis: And even though the article made no mention of climate change or global warming I'm sure some people will be along shortly to talk about it anyway.


Honest Bender: What do you mean the weather isn't the exact same every year?! GLOBAL WARMING!


[are_you_a_wizard.jpg]
 
2012-02-05 09:38:47 AM  
Not a flake of snow on the ground in the Metro Detroit area on February 5. Pretty much unheard of, but this I can live with. Snow is acceptable from Christmas Eve to New Year's Day. After that, bring on summer.

The Great Lakes will be VERY low this year though. That's not so good.
 
2012-02-05 09:40:27 AM  

unlikely: I'm in Colorado and had to dig 2 feet of snow off my car today, so I'm getting a kick...


I'm also in Colorado and I got out of work a few hours early on Friday, and shoveled a couple feet of snow off my sidewalk yesterday. So yea, me too.

Fairly normal winter in Colorado, a few balls cold days, a half dozen snows, and otherwise 50ish degree temps. Been like this as long as I can recall...
 
2012-02-05 09:43:54 AM  
www.woodfortrees.org


Well, as we are all well aware at this point, global warming causes MORE SNOW, right? So this is just more evidence that global warming stopped already.

Oh wait, I know, it's only the entire surface of the planet over a 14 year span - probably just weather, amirite?
 
2012-02-05 09:53:16 AM  

Quantumbunny: Fairly normal winter in Colorado, a few balls cold days, a half dozen snows, and otherwise 50ish degree temps. Been like this as long as I can recall...


New Year's Day 1998 was 70 and sunny. Yesterday was exceptional only because it was me that had to do the digging. Usually my neighbor does all of the cars in both our driveways.

/We show our appreciation with cheesecakes and presents for his kids.
 
2012-02-05 09:54:03 AM  

SevenizGud: [www.woodfortrees.org image 640x480]

Well, as we are all well aware at this point, global warming causes MORE SNOW, right? So this is just more evidence that global warming stopped already.

Oh wait, I know, it's only the entire surface of the planet over a 14 year span - probably just weather, amirite?


I might even agree with you if I knew what the hell the vertical axis was on your graph.
 
2012-02-05 10:00:52 AM  
Meanwhile, in South Florida...

www.terryevecfo.com
 
2012-02-05 10:06:27 AM  
I miss the snow.
 
2012-02-05 10:19:45 AM  

CujoQuarrel: I might even agree with you if I knew what the hell the vertical axis was on your graph.


Well, we can't really expect you to know the FIRST THING about global warming, can we?
 
2012-02-05 10:30:10 AM  

SevenizGud: CujoQuarrel: I might even agree with you if I knew what the hell the vertical axis was on your graph.

Well, we can't really expect you to know the FIRST THING about global warming, can we?


The current weather is the result of North Atlantic oscillation. It has nothing to do with global warming. North Atlantic oscillation has nothing to do with global warming. North Atlantic oscillation is not new.

North Atlantic oscillation North Atlantic oscillation North Atlantic oscillation North Atlantic oscillation North Atlantic oscillation North Atlantic oscillation

get the point????
 
2012-02-05 10:31:00 AM  
Oh, weather! Curse your sudden but inevitable cold snap!

/funky weather pattern is breaking Texas drought.
 
Zel
2012-02-05 10:31:16 AM  

SevenizGud: CujoQuarrel: I might even agree with you if I knew what the hell the vertical axis was on your graph.

Well, we can't really expect you to know the FIRST THING about global warming, can we?


Well the red line is labeled hadcrut3vgl, which probably stands for "high action denialist climate revision under the third very great line"

And since that is trending down it means our daffodils are going to keep coming up earlier!!
 
2012-02-05 10:38:21 AM  

AngryDragon: Not a flake of snow on the ground in the Metro Detroit area on February 5. Pretty much unheard of, but this I can live with. Snow is acceptable from Christmas Eve to New Year's Day. After that, bring on summer.

The Great Lakes will be VERY low this year though. That's not so good.


Possibly not for 2 reason. 1. You have a lot of rain down there this winter, at least what my friend in the Lansing area tells me. 2. Around Lake Superior we still have a butt load of snow (granted not as much, I only have 2ft on the ground here) that will melt and head down your way.
 
2012-02-05 10:40:37 AM  

SevenizGud: CujoQuarrel: I might even agree with you if I knew what the hell the vertical axis was on your graph.

Well, we can't really expect you to know the FIRST THING about global warming, can we?


You got a graph with no labels.
Bottom one is by year or something very weird
Since you won't label them I'm going to declare the left axis as deviance from the norm of number of tranny hookers you killed after sex

Happier
 
2012-02-05 10:41:33 AM  
I want to go snowboarding damnit
 
2012-02-05 10:42:48 AM  

Zel: SevenizGud: CujoQuarrel: I might even agree with you if I knew what the hell the vertical axis was on your graph.

Well, we can't really expect you to know the FIRST THING about global warming, can we?

Well the red line is labeled hadcrut3vgl, which probably stands for "high action denialist climate revision under the third very great line"

And since that is trending down it means our daffodils are going to keep coming up earlier!!


Now it makes perfect sense.
 
2012-02-05 10:43:22 AM  
pics.kuvaton.com
 
2012-02-05 10:48:00 AM  

chuggernaught: We're going through an El Nina, which is Spanish for The Nina.

/obscure?


More obscure than...

El Nino is Spanish for... the Nino.

All tropical storms must bow before El Nino.
 
2012-02-05 10:53:47 AM  

SevenizGud: [www.woodfortrees.org image 640x480]

Well, as we are all well aware at this point, global warming causes MORE SNOW, right? So this is just more evidence that global warming stopped already.

Oh wait, I know, it's only the entire surface of the planet over a 14 year span - probably just weather, amirite?


You ever wonder why scientists tend to use more than just one small subset of a larger data set before arriving at a conclusion? Or why then like to analyze data in several ways? It's quite a mystery, isn't it?
 
2012-02-05 11:12:07 AM  

Erix: You ever wonder why scientists tend to use more than just one small subset of a larger data set before arriving at a conclusion? Or why then like to analyze data in several ways?


Actually, nobody wondered and your asking the querstion probably means you're not getting the joke.

/Hang on thread, here we go...
 
2012-02-05 11:49:36 AM  
I'm so confused.....so now climate change is real?

/it is
// and I love it
/// is that bad?
 
2012-02-05 12:14:34 PM  
BEST WINTER EVER IN FARGO ND! SO STFU AND GTFO IF YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT THE WARMER WEATHER!
 
2012-02-05 12:14:50 PM  

ChrisDe: I'm so confused.....


We can tell.
 
2012-02-05 12:43:20 PM  
Planted some of my garden here in North Florida today. Carrots, beans, pickling cukes, potatoes, sweet corn and some lettuce. Yeah, it's a gamble, we usually have frosts and cold weather in February and March, and usually a killing frost around the first of April. But, I could not resist. Got some exercise, only spent a few bucks on seed and diesel to till up the ground.
 
2012-02-05 12:56:42 PM  
As others have said, this bites us in the ass when the drought hits. A warm, dry winter means brown grass and all that crap come summer. Also more people from the Southwest trying to steal water from our lakes.

I'm really hoping for some Feb and March blizzards. We've had too many winters that tend on the dryer side recently.
 
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