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2012-02-05 12:26:48 AM  
Protip for soliciting sex: warm up by asking to take a few nude pictures first. Undercover cops will definitely not be into that.
 
2012-02-05 12:28:50 AM  
From what I can tell, all they did was ask if they could have sex with the under cover detective. How is that illegal?
 
2012-02-05 12:28:53 AM  
What the hell is with horny old men?
 
2012-02-05 12:32:28 AM  

Lars The Canadian Viking: From what I can tell, all they did was ask if they could have sex with the under cover detective. How is that illegal?


I was wondering the same thing. It doesn't sound like they were trying to pay, so the prostitution angle is out. It could be that they asked to 'get it on' inside the park, so perhaps it was attempted public indecency?
 
2012-02-05 12:32:34 AM  
Rhat was patient homosexu.... police officer
 
2012-02-05 12:32:53 AM  

Lars The Canadian Viking: From what I can tell, all they did was ask if they could have sex with the under cover detective. How is that illegal?


Florida.
 
2012-02-05 12:35:57 AM  
Are there no gay bars or bathhouses? This seems like an easy way to get nicked. It's not like they are raiding establishments anymore.
 
2012-02-05 12:36:01 AM  
These men could have used a better father figure growing up.
 
2012-02-05 12:36:19 AM  
Oldham Skinner's Eaton Cox again.
 
2012-02-05 12:37:04 AM  
Super Bird. Always get the Super Bird
 
2012-02-05 12:41:20 AM  
www.wtsp.com

Indeed.
 
2012-02-05 12:41:44 AM  
And all 8 of the arrested are married.
 
2012-02-05 12:41:50 AM  

velvet_fog: These men could have used a better father figure growing up.


Yeah, like one that told them "son, if you're gay that's fine, be proud of it, don't hide it and get married and then sneak into the park at night and get busted for soliciting sex from an undercover cop."
 
2012-02-05 12:43:18 AM  
Wookin' pa num in all da wong paces...
 
2012-02-05 12:44:38 AM  

velvet_fog: These men could have used a better father figure growing up.


Certainly a better father figure than this one...

crimemagazine.com


/Like father, like son; as the saying goes in the catholic cult.

//Cheers!
 
2012-02-05 12:49:03 AM  
Also:

Mark A. Skinner, ... is married.

Gerald Cox, ... he is retired and married.

William John Clark ... told detectives he is retired and married.

Robert Parsley, DOB 5/5/1967, of 4402 Burlington Drive in Winter Haven. Parsley was arrested for Trespassing. He was previously arrested in September 2011 in the same park, for Soliciting Another to Commit a Lewd Act. Parsley told detectives he works at Saddle Creek Corporation, and is married.

Russell Colvin, DOB 10/10/1933, of 2180 21st Street NW in Winter Haven. Colvin asked the detective to participate in a sex act with him (Colvin). He was arrested and charged with 2 counts Soliciting Another to Commit a Lewd Act. Colvin told detectives he is retired and married.

Daniel Ortiz, Jr., DOB 6/10/1972, of 131 Cardinal Court in Davenport. Ortiz asked the detective to participate in a sex act with him (Ortiz). He was arrested and charged with Soliciting Another to Commit a Lewd Act. Ortiz told detectives he is a franchise consultant for Denny's restaurants and married.

Larry Oldham, DOB 10/3/1944, of 108 Florida Drive in Auburndale. Oldham asked the detective to participate in a sex act with him (Oldham). He was arrested and charged with Soliciting Another to Commit a Lewd Act, and Possession of a Concealed Firearm. Oldham told detectives he is retired and married, and he had a .38 caliber revolver in his truck.

Donald Eaton, DOB 11/14/1947, of 3923 Hulaco Road, in Morgan County, Alabama. Eaton asked the detective to participate in a sex act with him (Eaton). He was arrested and charged with Soliciting Another to Commit a Lewd Act. Eaton is here visiting from Alabama and staying with relatives. He told detectives he is retired and married.


Wow. Just wow.
 
2012-02-05 12:49:33 AM  
A few years back a co-worker had asked me if I could help get the police to patrol a park near his home. He knew I had connections inside the local department.

Now I know this park to be fairly cruisy but I told him if the police refuse to act then there is really nothing that can be done.

But the folks in Florida take that seriously. And how many of the men on that list were married and considerably older! It's because in their prime it was still illegal in general to be LGBT. I'm glad that's finally changing.
 
2012-02-05 12:50:42 AM  
Denny's "consultant"?

What the I don't know what the I can't figure what the fark
 
2012-02-05 12:52:13 AM  

Lars The Canadian Viking: From what I can tell, all they did was ask if they could have sex with the under cover detective. How is that illegal?


Sex is evil and wrong. Now if they'd have suggested a boxing match that would have been perfectly legal.
 
2012-02-05 12:52:16 AM  

UsikFark: Also:

Mark A. Skinner, ... is married.

Gerald Cox, ... he is retired and married.

William John Clark ... told detectives he is retired and married.

Robert Parsley, DOB 5/5/1967, of 4402 Burlington Drive in Winter Haven. Parsley was arrested for Trespassing. He was previously arrested in September 2011 in the same park, for Soliciting Another to Commit a Lewd Act. Parsley told detectives he works at Saddle Creek Corporation, and is married.

Russell Colvin, DOB 10/10/1933, of 2180 21st Street NW in Winter Haven. Colvin asked the detective to participate in a sex act with him (Colvin). He was arrested and charged with 2 counts Soliciting Another to Commit a Lewd Act. Colvin told detectives he is retired and married.

Daniel Ortiz, Jr., DOB 6/10/1972, of 131 Cardinal Court in Davenport. Ortiz asked the detective to participate in a sex act with him (Ortiz). He was arrested and charged with Soliciting Another to Commit a Lewd Act. Ortiz told detectives he is a franchise consultant for Denny's restaurants and married.

Larry Oldham, DOB 10/3/1944, of 108 Florida Drive in Auburndale. Oldham asked the detective to participate in a sex act with him (Oldham). He was arrested and charged with Soliciting Another to Commit a Lewd Act, and Possession of a Concealed Firearm. Oldham told detectives he is retired and married, and he had a .38 caliber revolver in his truck.

Donald Eaton, DOB 11/14/1947, of 3923 Hulaco Road, in Morgan County, Alabama. Eaton asked the detective to participate in a sex act with him (Eaton). He was arrested and charged with Soliciting Another to Commit a Lewd Act. Eaton is here visiting from Alabama and staying with relatives. He told detectives he is retired and married.

Wow. Just wow.


Yep, Wow. Just wow. While you were busy with your highlighter, seventypercent already covered that subject.

/Next.

//Cheers!
 
2012-02-05 12:53:15 AM  
From what I can tell, lots of old married men are actually desperate homosexuals who gather at night in public parks for anonymous gay sex.

I find this sociologically.....untoward.
 
2012-02-05 12:53:21 AM  

UsikFark: [www.wtsp.com image 640x360]

Indeed.


Goddamn, that's bordering on necrophilia
 
2012-02-05 12:57:36 AM  
www.wtsp.com
YOU GON' GET RAEPED
 
2012-02-05 01:00:28 AM  

kd1s: And how many of the men on that list were married and considerably older! It's because in their prime it was still illegal in general to be LGBT. I'm glad that's finally changing.


This. If they'd tried to come out in their prime, they'd have been disowned, shunned, and run out of town (or possibly just beaten to death for being a "fag"). They were raised with the idea that they had to do the "normal" thing and marry a woman, have kids, and be miserable. Hence my comment condemning the old school "father figure," who was really just a dictator and a sadist. I honestly pity most men with a father from that era, because even the ones that legitimately thought they had it good, the stories they tell... well, tell a different story.
 
2012-02-05 01:00:34 AM  
Coincidence?
i39.tinypic.com
 
2012-02-05 01:02:36 AM  
Wow. Look at the DOBs. Some of these dudes are 70+. Pretty sad they had to live their whole lives as a lie.
 
2012-02-05 01:05:10 AM  
Despite the guys being arrested and charged with a crime, they haven't been convicted. So it's sad to see their names and all of their personal info (addresses?) put in the paper. Have some cop get caught committing a crime and see how well he is protected from the public. It's not cool that these guys have to be shamed as well, even though they really shouldn't be cruising a public park. The City Hall where I live had to lock the public men's bathrooms because too many guys were being caught cruising the restrooms.
 
2012-02-05 01:05:18 AM  

velvet_fog: These men could have used a better father figure growing up.


So your saying they needed a daddy O_o
NTTATWWT
/So sorry.
 
2012-02-05 01:06:35 AM  

I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: While you were busy with your highlighter


You are much more concerned about it than I am.
 
2012-02-05 01:08:54 AM  
I'm trying to figure this out. Asking someone to engage in anonymous sex in Florida is illegal if it's done in a park, but legal if it's done in a bar? Or is it the gay angle that makes it illegal.
If it's the gay angle that makes it illegal, these cops should just visit the Cubby Hole on US1 in Lauderdale sometime. They have "Underwear Wednesdays" and "Hot Bears on Poles" night. It would save them the trouble of wandering around a park in the dark.
 
2012-02-05 01:11:49 AM  
Good game Florida
 
2012-02-05 01:11:49 AM  
Do any mature Farkers out here think that there is something wrong with listing the names, addresses and marital status of those arrested in this article? Had they been straight, it would have just been a two paragraph summary along the lines of "Eight people were arrested today in Florida for soliciting...in other news..."

/No, this article went the extra mile and outed a bunch of men
//shock value
 
2012-02-05 01:15:59 AM  

batcookie: kd1s: And how many of the men on that list were married and considerably older! It's because in their prime it was still illegal in general to be LGBT. I'm glad that's finally changing.

This. If they'd tried to come out in their prime, they'd have been disowned, shunned, and run out of town (or possibly just beaten to death for being a "fag"). They were raised with the idea that they had to do the "normal" thing and marry a woman, have kids, and be miserable. Hence my comment condemning the old school "father figure," who was really just a dictator and a sadist. I honestly pity most men with a father from that era, because even the ones that legitimately thought they had it good, the stories they tell... well, tell a different story.


The one I don't get though is the guy born in 1972. The old guys I understand, but for a guy born in '72 the gay rights movement was well under way by the time he was in college.
 
2012-02-05 01:17:26 AM  

Cyrusv10: Do any mature Farkers out here think that there is something wrong with listing the names, addresses and marital status of those arrested in this article? Had they been straight, it would have just been a two paragraph summary along the lines of "Eight people were arrested today in Florida for soliciting...in other news..."

/No, this article went the extra mile and outed a bunch of men
//shock value


It's Polk County. The Sheriff there has it out for anything relating to sex or sexuality, be it hetero or homosexual.
 
2012-02-05 01:20:40 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: Cyrusv10: Do any mature Farkers out here think that there is something wrong with listing the names, addresses and marital status of those arrested in this article? Had they been straight, it would have just been a two paragraph summary along the lines of "Eight people were arrested today in Florida for soliciting...in other news..."

/No, this article went the extra mile and outed a bunch of men
//shock value

It's Polk County. The Sheriff there has it out for anything relating to sex or sexuality, be it hetero or homosexual.


But if you're a former Klu Klux Klan Grand Dragon and run for city council in Lake Wales, it's all good, people are willing to overlook that and elect you.
 
2012-02-05 01:25:47 AM  

rynthetyn: But if you're a former Klu Klux Klan Grand Dragon and run for city council in Lake Wales, it's all good, people are willing to overlook celebrate that and elect you.


Fixed for Fla attitudes.
 
2012-02-05 01:26:37 AM  
Skinner told detectives he was recently laid off from Highlands City Baptist Church and is married. He was also formerly a volunteer on the Sheriff's Advisory Council.

Could have gotten work with the TSA; highly qualified.
 
2012-02-05 01:32:37 AM  

batcookie: rynthetyn: But if you're a former Klu Klux Klan Grand Dragon and run for city council in Lake Wales, it's all good, people are willing to overlook celebrate that and elect you.

Fixed for Fla attitudes.


Considering that this is Polk County, that's probably an accurate correction. Lake Wales KKK dude is my uncle's barber, posting the story about that to facebook resulted in me being informed by my aunt that I hate all white people, Americans, and Christians. But especially white people.

TFA is most definitely not going to facebook because I don't even want to imagine the comments it would generate.
 
2012-02-05 01:36:23 AM  

rynthetyn:

But if you're a former Klu Klux Klan Grand Dragon and run for city council in Lake Wales, it's all good, people are willing to overlook that and elect you.


Florida's Gulf Coast is an unfortunate mix of midwestern retirees who have grown up without exposure to diversity and southern rednecks who actively hate diversity.

On the bright side, there are enough Mexican, Cuban and other Latino immigrants to support some pretty good latin restaurants.
 
2012-02-05 01:40:51 AM  
Did anyone mention that all those dudes were married?
 
2012-02-05 01:47:33 AM  
Things I did not know:

1. There are a lot of married men who are looking for gay sex.
2. News websites are now allowed to report as fact the police version of events, which is disseminated to the public, along with the demographic information of the suspects, without the suspects being convicted of a crime (yet).


What is the newsworthiness of identifying the suspects in this case? While they apparently violated the law in looking for sex at a public place (I guess we would not want this sort of activity with children and families about in a park, yet I doubt they would be anything other than discreet, given what they are doing,) going the extra mile and publicly shaming them seems excessive.
 
2012-02-05 01:51:03 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: rynthetyn:

But if you're a former Klu Klux Klan Grand Dragon and run for city council in Lake Wales, it's all good, people are willing to overlook that and elect you.

Florida's Gulf Coast is an unfortunate mix of midwestern retirees who have grown up without exposure to diversity and southern rednecks who actively hate diversity.

On the bright side, there are enough Mexican, Cuban and other Latino immigrants to support some pretty good latin restaurants.


I grew up in an area with a weird mix of rednecks, retirees, European tourists, Hispanic immigrants, and really rich people, where celebrities vacation when they don't want to get photographed. End result is that it was quite possible to be exposed to vast diversity or else insulate yourself with crazy bigots, depending on which circles you chose to run in.

My parents were more inclined to expose us to diversity, certain of my relatives seem to have isolated themselves more and more over the years (and then they moved inland to a Lake Wales retirement community and got even more isolated). The thing that makes no sense though, is that my crazy aunt's son is married to a Colombian immigrant and he and his wife send the kids down to stay with her relatives in Colombia every summer, and yet my aunt has somehow managed to separate that in her brain from all of the crazy Fox News anti-immigrant, everybody should carry papers, English-only stuff.

/Could be worse, most of my Pennsylvania relatives are stuck in the '50s--the 1850s
 
2012-02-05 02:00:06 AM  

rynthetyn:
I grew up in an area with a weird mix of rednecks, retirees, European tourists, Hispanic immigrants, and really rich people, where celebrities vacation when they don't want to get photographed. End result is that it was quite possible to be exposed to vast diversity or else insulate yourself with crazy bigots, depending on which circles you chose to run in.

My parents were more inclined to expose us to diversity, certain of my relatives seem to have isolated themselves more and more over the years (and then they moved inland to a Lake Wales retirement community and got even more isolated). The thing that makes no sense though, is that my crazy aunt's son is married to a Colombian immigrant and he and his wife send the kids down to stay with her relatives in Colombia every summer, and yet my aunt has somehow managed to separate that in her brain from all of the crazy Fox News anti-immigrant, everybody should carry papers, English-only stuff.

/Could be worse, most of my Pennsylvania relatives are stuck in the '50s--the 1850s


Sounds like you grew up in an area very similar to where I am now. Selective blindness/deafness, hypocrisy, and self imposed isolationism are de rigueur around here, although I suppose that could apply to many people anywhere.

/Several counties south of Polk, thankfully
 
2012-02-05 02:00:22 AM  
I wonder if Robert Parsley's lewd act was wanting to get his salad tossed?

Incontinental_Drift: Wow. Look at the DOBs. Some of these dudes are 70+. Pretty sad they had to live their whole lives as a lie.


Living a lie?? Hold the violin... They're just horny old bastards on the prowl for cock.

These guys are from the golden age of farking - The '60s... Look at how STD rates have skyrocketed in nursing homes. Straight of gay - 60 and 70 somethings these day fark like rabbits. How's that for mental imagery...
 
2012-02-05 02:01:00 AM  
Wow, way to name and shame a bunch of non-criminals.
Now go "bust" a guy growing one pot plant in his garden.

Fark these cops and the society that makes these ridiculous things possible.
 
2012-02-05 02:09:00 AM  
I don't get the public park gay sex. I really don't. I don't even want to set foot in a nasty public park bathroom, let alone get reared by some middle-aged creep in one. Can some farkers of the homosexual persuasion please explain the appeal? Can't you just use Craigslist for all the anonymous gay sex you want? Without the smell of stale urine and shiat?

And it really tends to be the middle-aged or even older set that you usually see getting arrested and plastered all over the news, trolling for manass in an airport/public park/rest area bathroom.
 
2012-02-05 02:13:04 AM  

Cyrusv10: Do any mature Farkers out here think that there is something wrong with listing the names, addresses and marital status of those arrested in this article? Had they been straight, it would have just been a two paragraph summary along the lines of "Eight people were arrested today in Florida for soliciting...in other news..."

/No, this article went the extra mile and outed a bunch of men
//shock value


Seeing as they haven't been convicted of anything yet, it's pretty farked up and vindictive.

If the bible-thumpers would STFU about their "family values" nonsense and mind their own business, I bet those guys wouldn't be married, on the down-low, and cruising for sex in parks in the first place.
 
2012-02-05 02:13:18 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: rynthetyn:
I grew up in an area with a weird mix of rednecks, retirees, European tourists, Hispanic immigrants, and really rich people, where celebrities vacation when they don't want to get photographed. End result is that it was quite possible to be exposed to vast diversity or else insulate yourself with crazy bigots, depending on which circles you chose to run in.

My parents were more inclined to expose us to diversity, certain of my relatives seem to have isolated themselves more and more over the years (and then they moved inland to a Lake Wales retirement community and got even more isolated). The thing that makes no sense though, is that my crazy aunt's son is married to a Colombian immigrant and he and his wife send the kids down to stay with her relatives in Colombia every summer, and yet my aunt has somehow managed to separate that in her brain from all of the crazy Fox News anti-immigrant, everybody should carry papers, English-only stuff.

/Could be worse, most of my Pennsylvania relatives are stuck in the '50s--the 1850s

Sounds like you grew up in an area very similar to where I am now. Selective blindness/deafness, hypocrisy, and self imposed isolationism are de rigueur around here, although I suppose that could apply to many people anywhere.

/Several counties south of Polk, thankfully


Maybe we're talking about the same place, I grew up several counties south of Polk too.
 
2012-02-05 02:17:20 AM  

cc_rider:
Seeing as they haven't been convicted of anything yet, it's pretty farked up and vindictive.


I agree - names of the accused should be withheld in situations where the crime carries a severe negative social stigma.

From the article though, it sounds like most of these guys decided to volunteer their marital status, employer information, and even which church they attend to the arresting officers. Just another example why your only response to any questioning following an arrest should be 'I request a lawyer'.
 
2012-02-05 02:23:20 AM  

DeathByGeekSquad: What the hell is with horny old men?


Turned 50 last year.
I keep my junk in peak performance with a home made balm made with lard, Jagermeister, and Absorbine Jr.
 
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