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2012-02-04 08:44:55 AM
So, a broader slice than Fark?
 
2012-02-04 12:07:36 PM
Sounds like any online forum then, really.
 
2012-02-04 12:12:47 PM
The other 80% that have no lives are lurkers.
 
2012-02-04 12:17:25 PM
hubiestubert: So, a broader slice than Fark?

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: The other 80% that have no lives are lurkers.

So it IS like Fark!
 
2012-02-04 12:24:13 PM
I miss a lot of the Myspace stuff (before they went full retard).
The bloggy section was kind of cool, and the interface was fast to load, even over EDGE on my phone back in the day.

I have been hating FB lately. That last update on my android makes me crazy. Pages load in 30-40 seconds on WiFi, constant crashing. It's not worth the aggrivation.

I would like to make a mobile social website. It would be fun. Make it snappy, lightweight, and simple. All this crap is, is a way for one person to contact another. Why complicate it? :-)
 
2012-02-04 12:27:13 PM
An average Facebook user receives more friend requests than they send themselves. During the observed month, 63 per cent received a friend request while only 40 per cent made a request

Granted, it is a bit early for me yet and I have yet to take any coffee, but shouldn't this be averaged to be 1:1? It doesn't make sense, given that the entire pool should just wash out to be even.

/statistics, how do they work?
 
2012-02-04 12:28:04 PM
rooftop235: I would like to make a mobile social website. It would be fun. Make it snappy, lightweight, and simple. All this crap is, is a way for one person to contact another. Why complicate it? :-)

Or, you know...call your friends.
 
2012-02-04 12:32:58 PM
Joafu
/statistics, how do they work?


By having users who make more than one request.
 
2012-02-04 12:51:14 PM
Joafu: An average Facebook user receives more friend requests than they send themselves. During the observed month, 63 per cent received a friend request while only 40 per cent made a request

Granted, it is a bit early for me yet and I have yet to take any coffee, but shouldn't this be averaged to be 1:1? It doesn't make sense, given that the entire pool should just wash out to be even.

/statistics, how do they work?


Why would it average to 1:1? I bet you're thinking it's because "if two people are friends it's because they both wanted" or something like that.

But it's entirely possible to have FB friends without sending a single friend request.

There is a big group of users (around 23% if we go by those numbers) who NOBODY sents requests to but all they do is send random requests to people.

You can't tell at a glance since Facebook is a reciprocal medium, but you see it all the time in Twitter. People who follow 2000 people but only have like 50 followers. And viceversa.

Then there's Kanye West who has 6 million followers and up until a month ago he didn't follow anyone (per his own words: "I'm a leader, not a follower, I don't follow no one"). Now he has a grand amount of 5 people he follows.
 
2012-02-04 12:58:30 PM
rooftop235: I miss a lot of the Myspace stuff (before they went full retard).
The bloggy section was kind of cool, and the interface was fast to load, even over EDGE on my phone back in the day.

I have been hating FB lately. That last update on my android makes me crazy. Pages load in 30-40 seconds on WiFi, constant crashing. It's not worth the aggrivation.

I would like to make a mobile social website. It would be fun. Make it snappy, lightweight, and simple. All this crap is, is a way for one person to contact another. Why complicate it? :-)


Have you tried Twitter?
 
2012-02-04 01:14:24 PM
It will be interesting to see how Facebook mines $100 billion worth of investment income from a bunch of pasty-faced basement dwellers whose highest accomplishment in life is to be adept at Facebook.
 
2012-02-04 01:27:09 PM
rocky_howard: Then there's Kanye West who has 6 million followers and up until a month ago he didn't follow anyone (per his own words: "I'm a leader, not a follower, I don't follow no one"). Now he has a grand amount of 5 people he follows.

You just turned Kayne's douche meter to 11.
 
2012-02-04 01:31:01 PM
beer4breakfast: rocky_howard: Then there's Kanye West who has 6 million followers and up until a month ago he didn't follow anyone (per his own words: "I'm a leader, not a follower, I don't follow no one"). Now he has a grand amount of 5 people he follows.

You just turned Kayne's douche meter to 11.


It's been at 11 for years. He would look at Spinal Tap and go have an amp made that goes to 12 just because he's better than 11.
 
2012-02-04 02:00:40 PM
Joafu: An average Facebook user receives more friend requests than they send themselves. During the observed month, 63 per cent received a friend request while only 40 per cent made a request

Granted, it is a bit early for me yet and I have yet to take any coffee, but shouldn't this be averaged to be 1:1? It doesn't make sense, given that the entire pool should just wash out to be even.

/statistics, how do they work?


No, the mean number of friend requests sent per user is equal to the mean number of friend requests received per user (sum(for n=1 to number of users, #reqssentbyuser_n)/number of users = sum(for n=1 to number of users, #reqsrecvdbyuser_n)/number of users. However, more users can be above the average than below the average. Consider a pool of 10 users where 1 user sends requests to the other 9 and the other 9 send no requests. There are still 9 requests sent and 9 received, and 0.9 requests sent and received per user, but 9 out of ten users received more than the average number of requests and also received more requests than they sent. You could easily say the 'average user' receives more than they send. In this case, the 'average' user probably refers to the median user.
 
2012-02-04 02:01:23 PM
jjorsett: It will be interesting to see how Facebook mines $100 billion worth of investment income from a bunch of pasty-faced basement dwellers whose highest accomplishment in life is to be adept at Facebook.

charge $5 a month?
 
2012-02-04 02:02:06 PM
80/20 rule?
 
2012-02-04 02:07:55 PM
mr lawson: jjorsett: It will be interesting to see how Facebook mines $100 billion worth of investment income from a bunch of pasty-faced basement dwellers whose highest accomplishment in life is to be adept at Facebook.

charge $5 a month?


actually charge $5 a month for a little tag by your name and an exclusive chat/forum area.
$10 for no ads :-)
 
2012-02-04 02:15:18 PM
mr lawson: mr lawson: jjorsett: It will be interesting to see how Facebook mines $100 billion worth of investment income from a bunch of pasty-faced basement dwellers whose highest accomplishment in life is to be adept at Facebook.

charge $5 a month?

actually charge $5 a month for a little tag by your name and an exclusive chat/forum area.
$10 for no ads :-)


To be fair, that does come with occasional BIE...
 
2012-02-04 02:31:48 PM
rocky_howard: Then there's Kanye West who has 6 million followers and up until a month ago he didn't follow anyone (per his own words: "I'm a leader, not a follower, I don't follow no one"). Now he has a grand amount of 5 people he follows.

You could say he doesn't care about most people
 
2012-02-04 02:31:52 PM
All of them are women. Just Sayin'.
 
2012-02-04 03:10:04 PM
Sock Ruh Tease: rocky_howard: Then there's Kanye West who has 6 million followers and up until a month ago he didn't follow anyone (per his own words: "I'm a leader, not a follower, I don't follow no one"). Now he has a grand amount of 5 people he follows.

You could say he doesn't care about most people


And the feeling is mutual
 
2012-02-04 03:29:35 PM
RandomExcess: 80/20 rule?

Came to say hello to Pareto. Leaving satisfied.
 
2012-02-04 03:58:22 PM
so... they're like any other business? 20% of your customers driving 80% of your traffic.

for their next article, they should run one about Facebook having to borrow short term to make payroll.

really subject the company to the harsh light of public scrutinies.
 
2012-02-04 04:30:22 PM
hubiestubert: mr lawson: mr lawson: jjorsett: It will be interesting to see how Facebook mines $100 billion worth of investment income from a bunch of pasty-faced basement dwellers whose highest accomplishment in life is to be adept at Facebook.

charge $5 a month?

actually charge $5 a month for a little tag by your name and an exclusive chat/forum area.
$10 for no ads :-)

To be fair, that does come with occasional BIE...


I'm in it for the back alley fights. Vicious insults, serious threats, wild accusations, previous gaffes rubbed in the face, jeers from the crowd, mud and bottles being thrown...
 
2012-02-04 05:20:03 PM
FunkOut: I'm in it for the back alley fights. Vicious insults, serious threats, wild accusations, previous gaffes rubbed in the face, jeers from the crowd, mud and bottles being thrown...

TFD is maybe a little too rich for my blood...
 
2012-02-04 05:23:40 PM
kertus: RandomExcess: 80/20 rule?

Came to say hello to Pareto. Leaving satisfied.
 
2012-02-04 05:24:04 PM
I read somewhere that they're going to be valued at $100bn. But they've got annual revenue of £2bn.

Anyone want to guess that Facebook is going to be around in 50 years?

OK, let's assume the whole world gets the internet. Facebook has half the US and Canada population as members right now. So, they get half the globe eventually, that's the most customers they can get, and that would quadruple their membership. They've then got to achieve that for 12 years. Would you even bet on that?

The only reason I can see for buying Facebook stock is to sell it to some other mug. But someone's going to get burnt.
 
2012-02-04 05:39:50 PM
Facebook relies on 20% of its most active users that who have no lives.

/Why, yes, I have no life.
 
2012-02-04 06:09:16 PM
mr lawson: mr lawson: jjorsett: It will be interesting to see how Facebook mines $100 billion worth of investment income from a bunch of pasty-faced basement dwellers whose highest accomplishment in life is to be adept at Facebook.

charge $5 a month?

actually charge $5 a month for a little tag by your name and an exclusive chat/forum area.
$10 for no ads :-)


$15!
 
2012-02-04 07:25:36 PM
farkeruk: I read somewhere that they're going to be valued at $100bn. But they've got annual revenue of £2bn.

Anyone want to guess that Facebook is going to be around in 50 years?

OK, let's assume the whole world gets the internet. Facebook has half the US and Canada population as members right now. So, they get half the globe eventually, that's the most customers they can get, and that would quadruple their membership. They've then got to achieve that for 12 years. Would you even bet on that?

The only reason I can see for buying Facebook stock is to sell it to some other mug. But someone's going to get burnt.


I was reading that Facebook will have to have 30 percent growth per year for the next 5 years to justify the asking price.
 
2012-02-04 09:01:05 PM
Done in one.
 
2012-02-05 12:28:08 AM
RandomExcess: 80/20 rule?

80/20 is always in effect in all things.
 
2012-02-05 02:28:14 AM
I don't and never have buy/bought anything from ads/clicking ads I see on the internet.
 
2012-02-05 03:06:25 AM
man whenever i see an article about how facebook makes you an idiot, facebook is violating your privacy, facebook new feature is driving away facebook users, i get an irresistable urge to log on to facebook
 
2012-02-05 09:27:42 AM
Facebook relies on 20% of its most active users that have no lives

Ah, yes, the kind of people who used to engage in discussions on, say, Usenet. Oddly, my acquaintances who have such proclivities have largely moved over to Google+, which seems much more conducive to really long discussion threads for some reason.

I still have to frequent Facebook, though, to read what other friends had for breakfast, see photos of their new dogs, and post links to Snopes as comments on the gullible shiat they post. Woo.
 
2012-02-05 10:05:17 AM
Joafu: An average Facebook user receives more friend requests than they send themselves. During the observed month, 63 per cent received a friend request while only 40 per cent made a request

Granted, it is a bit early for me yet and I have yet to take any coffee, but shouldn't this be averaged to be 1:1? It doesn't make sense, given that the entire pool should just wash out to be even.

/statistics, how do they work?


no, this is similar to the stat that shows up every few years: 75% of teenage males have reported to have had sex, while only 30% of females have reported to have had sex.

again, you would think they would be closer to even, but we are forgetting one important fact: whores.

they are not counting the number of requests (or partners in my analogy). if one person sends out 99 friend requests and those recipients send out none. Then 99% have received a friend request while only 1% has made one.

starcasm.net
 
2012-02-05 10:58:05 AM
Facebook is nothing more than an onslaught of pictures/updates about people's kids.

Step 1: post picture of your snowflake
Step 2: provide one sentence description
Step 3: await validation of how special you and your child is
Step 4: repeat daily

Nobody farking cares about your kids. Go play FarmVille and/or get fatter.
 
2012-02-06 01:22:34 AM
Pareto agrees.
 
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