Nothing has been won. It's only getting worse, too, once the FEC removes the limits on direct campaign contributions, which will almost certainly happen after this election cycle.

I will be purchasing the collector's edition with the "SuperPack" top.

/oh, and Chuck Todd is a miserable, piece of shiat, partisan hack.

Watching TDS and TCR these days is amazing... They've gotten very sharp.

Kuroshin: Lost Thought 00: Nothing has been won. It's only getting worse, too, once the FEC removes the limits on direct campaign contributions, which will almost certainly happen after this election cycle.

You have got to be shiatting me.

It's the next logical step, sadly.

If America had 10-20 people as bright, creative, and ballsy as Colbert in charge we might actually begin fixing problems.

Instead we elect people who are so stupid they get roasted by him via invitation.

socratesthekidd: Watching TDS and TCR these days is amazing... They've gotten very sharp.

Either that or their being spoonfed material from the Derp Brigade candidates.

socratesthekidd: Watching TDS and TCR these days is amazing... They've gotten very sharp.

And they were concerned they'd run out of material after Bush left office.

DeltaPunch: The best part is that he's barely started spending that money yet. I can't wait for more ads. I'm guessing he will do a negative ad along the lines of "so-and-so likes strawberry ice cream instead of chocolate.... can he really be trusted as President?"

That is, the mockery of the system hasn't even begun yet, is what I'm guessing.


I wish he had enough $ to run one during the SB

Funny, the evil rich don't violently attack my friends and family and make my life worse in most cases. But Stephen Colbert and Jon Stewart are the coolest guys ever, so I should support whatever the holier-than-jesus poor want.

sprawl15: socratesthekidd: Watching TDS and TCR these days is amazing... They've gotten very sharp.

And they were concerned they'd run out of material after Bush left office.

To be fair, things were a bit dull after Obama took office. Then shiat tons of material come in with the Tea Party and 2010 elections.

beta_plus: Funny, the evil rich don't violently attack my friends and family and make my life worse in most cases. But Stephen Colbert and Jon Stewart are the coolest guys ever, so I should support whatever the holier-than-jesus poor want.

Even you had to throw that qualifier "in most cases" in there, so you know in your heart of hearts that sometimes the evil rich do exactly that.

Hoisted.

heinekenftw: socratesthekidd: Watching TDS and TCR these days is amazing... They've gotten very sharp.

Either that or their being spoonfed material from the Derp Brigade candidates.

They've made some bold moves regardless. The bit last night with Aasif Mandvi and the fl state folks about the drug testing was pretty ballsy

beta_plus: Funny, the evil rich don't violently attack my friends and family

simplicimus: 2) will be remembered, if not studied in the future. Satire was a pretty much ignored art until now.

Satire may have been forgotten for a while, but it has been an art in the past.

Hell, read Voltaire's Candide. Or any other of Voltaire's works. Heck, even Dante's Inferno loosely falls under that category.

beta_plus: Funny, the evil rich don't violently attack my friends and family and make my life worse in most cases. But Stephen Colbert and Jon Stewart are the coolest guys ever, so I should support whatever the holier-than-jesus poor want.

Wait... who is violently attacking your friends and family?

Interesting to think of where Colbert was 10 years ago and the influence he's having on political discourse currently. He's a mover. He makes moves.

Talondel: Yes, if only the 1st Amendment didn't apply to corporations, then we could finally get around to letting the government censor speech on a grand scale. Truly, the world would be a better place if the government could tell corporations what they are and are not allowed to speak out agahttp://www.fark.com/comments/6920250/The-true-hero-in-grassroots-fi ght-against-Supreme-Courts-ridiculous-Citizens-United-decision-That-wo uld-be-one-only-Stephen-Colbert-of-course?startid=74743140inst.

Go fark yourself. Seriously.

Don't Troll Me Bro!: beta_plus: Funny, the evil rich don't violently attack my friends and family and make my life worse in most cases. But Stephen Colbert and Jon Stewart are the coolest guys ever, so I should support whatever the holier-than-jesus poor want.

You ever wonder why people don't take you seriously around here?

That would require at least some sort of rudimentary form of self-awareness.

beta_plus: Would some rich guy please, PLEASE let me suck his cock?!

thomps: And had the FEC done its job, had Congress passed better disclosure rules, had shareholders been better able to control corporate activity, the Kennedy decision would have been less monumental.

jesus, you could not pick worse assumptions if you tried.

I like the way the late, great Dwayne McDuffie (R.I.P.) put it on his own forum a few years ago:

"Your argument boils down to: `If we assume for the sake of argument that the world doesn't work the way it actually does in reality, will you admit that I'm right?'."

hachijuhachi: Interesting to think of where Colbert was 10 years ago and the influence he's having on political discourse currently. He's a mover. He makes moves.

He has many leather bound books and his apartment smells of rich mahogany.

imashark: Satire may have been forgotten for a while, but it has been an art in the past.

Hell, read Voltaire's Candide. Or any other of Voltaire's works. Heck, even Dante's Inferno loosely falls under that category.

I'd also add Jonathan Swift and to a lesser extent, Dickens. Satire has been alive for a long time.

sprawl15: hachijuhachi: Interesting to think of where Colbert was 10 years ago and the influence he's having on political discourse currently. He's a mover. He makes moves.

He has many leather bound books and his apartment smells of rich First Amendment mahogany.

/ftfPatrioticism

physt: beta_plus: Funny, the evil rich don't violently attack my friends and family and make my life worse in most cases. But Stephen Colbert and Jon Stewart are the coolest guys ever, so I should support whatever the holier-than-jesus poor want.

Wait... who is violently attacking your friends and family?

My guess is the attacks are self-inflicted.

chaotey: Don't Troll Me Bro!: beta_plus: Funny, the evil rich don't violently attack my friends and family and make my life worse in most cases. But Stephen Colbert and Jon Stewart are the coolest guys ever, so I should support whatever the holier-than-jesus poor want.

You ever wonder why people don't take you seriously around here?

That would require at least some sort of rudimentary form of self-awareness.

Oh, he was serious? I thought it was a poor trolling attempt.

Talondel: Yes, if only the 1st Amendment didn't apply to corporations, then we could finally get around to letting the government censor speech on a grand scale. Truly, the world would be a better place if the government could tell corporations what they are and are not allowed to speak out agahttp://www.fark.com/comments/6920250/The-true-hero-in-grassroots-fi ght-against-Supreme-Courts-ridiculous-Citizens-United-decision-That-wo uld-be-one-only-Stephen-Colbert-of-course?startid=74743140inst.

Sour grapes much, redlightmitter? The good news is if you keep up being a whiny biatch, I foresee a spot on Newt's campaign for you.

Another thread where liberals pretend their movements are "grass roots"? These are always fun.

In other news, last night at dinner, my waitress was Lizz Winstead.

/it might have been Craig Kilborn busing the table, but i'm not positive.

The Daily Show, The Colbert Report and the Internet are forces to be reckoned with. Just think what 2012 may bring.

Kazrath: chaotey: Don't Troll Me Bro!: beta_plus: Funny, the evil rich don't violently attack my friends and family and make my life worse in most cases. But Stephen Colbert and Jon Stewart are the coolest guys ever, so I should support whatever the holier-than-jesus poor want.

You ever wonder why people don't take you seriously around here?

That would require at least some sort of rudimentary form of self-awareness.

Oh, he was serious? I thought it was a poor trolling attempt.

It made absolutely no sense at all.

randomjsa: Another thread where liberals pretend their movements are "grass roots"? These are always fun.

Is someone making the argument that Stephen Colbert is a grass roots movement?

I've loved his strategy since the beginning: rub their faces in the CU decision to show how terrible it is. If a self professed clown like Colbert can raise this kind of cash, what does that say about how broken the system is?

The legalized bribery of politicians is a terrible way to run a country.

Seeing as Stephen Colbert's lampooning and mocking candidates can be seen as advocacy, he ought to praise the CU decision .

I guess not many people realize that we've had corporations expressing support for and against candidates for a long time. But a news corp is a special kind of corporation that gets extra right, right?

I'm going to make an argument that I've made before.

Speech is protected under the First Amendment.
Paid speech is protected under the First Amendment.
Political speech is protected under the First Amendment.
Anonymous speech is protected under the First Amendment.
Unpopular speech is protected under the First Amendment.
Unpopular, anonymous, paid, political speech is protected under the First Amendment.

Citizens United was correctly decided.

The 18th century version of a Super PAC TV ad was The Federalist Papers. They were paid (printing presses weren't cheap back then). They were anonymous. They were political in nature. And not everybody agreed with the content.

Just as The Federalist Papers were constitutionally protected, so are TV ads funded by anonymous billionaires.

simplicimus: Geotpf: I'm going to make an argument that I've made before.

Speech is protected under the First Amendment.
Paid speech is protected under the First Amendment.
Political speech is protected under the First Amendment.
Anonymous speech is protected under the First Amendment.
Unpopular speech is protected under the First Amendment.
Unpopular, anonymous, paid, political speech is protected under the First Amendment.

Citizens United was correctly decided.

The 18th century version of a Super PAC TV ad was The Federalist Papers. They were paid (printing presses weren't cheap back then). They were anonymous. They were political in nature. And not everybody agreed with the content.

Just as The Federalist Papers were constitutionally protected, so are TV ads funded by anonymous billionaires.

All of the above is valid, as long as there are people exercising their free speech. The sticking point here is that corporations, while persons for the purpose of making contracts, are not people, and that CEOs are spending corporate funds to advance their own viewpoints. If they want to advance corporate goals, they have lobbyists.

Corporations are merely groups of people who form an organization to make money.

Besides, corporate donations aren't the source of most large Super PAC funds-donations from rich indidivuals are.

The difference between a corporation donating $50 million dollars to a Super PAC and the billionaire who owns the corporation donating $50 million dollars to a Super PAC is nonexistant.