I am truly getting a kick out of the walls crumbling around these uppity b*tches, it just keeps getting more interesting.
Bottom line here is money and political power. I'd say that the 77% that is pocketed or used for 'overhead' and salaries is a conservative figure. Many of their grants are for political connections and favors and have very little to do with helping women in need.

I'd actually have slightly more respect for them if they at least had the courage of their convictions. Something like, "We believe that abortion is morally equivalent to murder, and we will not support an organization where our funds could free up other funds so they can carry out abortions"... a statement like that is crazy but it's not crazy, you know? And it's certainly not cowardly.

It's very lame to try to sneak by with, "Abortion? Oh heavens no! It's not that that we care about! It's just that they're under investigation! Nothing to do with abortion at all."

I believe that is the sound of a giant organization getting served.

It's one thing to alienate the vast percentage of your donation base, it's another to insult their intelligence on top of that.

Can someone fill me in on this. I've seen a bunch of facebook shiat and a little here, but don't understand everythign that happened.

AbbeySomeone: I am truly getting a kick out of the walls crumbling around these uppity b*tches, it just keeps getting more interesting.
Bottom line here is money and political power. I'd say that the 77% that is pocketed or used for 'overhead' and salaries is a conservative figure. Many of their grants are for political connections and favors and have very little to do with helping women in need.

Funny you might make that allegation.

This Komen thing just keeps getting greasier. Right wing ideologues lie -- and they tarnish whatever they're in contact with.

It was just a coincidence that a fundie republican took over there as VP and this happened, yep... sounds believable and stuff.

brigid_fitch: I can't be the only one enjoying the backlash against SGK. You hire backwater, Bible-thumping Fundies into your executive positions, this is what you get.

Serious Black: I believe that is the sound of a giant organization getting served.

Donations to Komen are up over 100% in the last 2 days.

DarnoKonrad: This Komen thing just keeps getting greasier. Right wing ideologues lie -- and they tarnish whatever they're in contact with.

You see, Muslims/Christians lie because it tells them in the Koran/Bible that it's OK to lie as long as it is in the service of Islam/Christianity.

There's no basis for that, but the 2nd has used it against the 1st. Why not have fun with it?

Skleenar: AbbeySomeone: I am truly getting a kick out of the walls crumbling around these uppity b*tches, it just keeps getting more interesting.
Bottom line here is money and political power. I'd say that the 77% that is pocketed or used for 'overhead' and salaries is a conservative figure. Many of their grants are for political connections and favors and have very little to do with helping women in need.

Funny you might make that allegation.


Came here to post this ^^^
Not to mention the claims that they've recently stopped funding stem cell research.
It's like the perfect storm.
On steroids.
On acid.

Marcus Aurelius: AbbeySomeone: here.

Thanks for the link, I will pass this on.

From the list of sponsors:



This group is not what I first thought it was. Seems they actually sell tea, hmm.

DarnoKonrad: This Komen thing just keeps getting greasier. Right wing ideologues lie -- and they tarnish whatever they're in contact with.

Not only that, it's now a scorched-earth policy wherever they're hired. We can make jokes about another Republican (a Bush ambassador, no less!) ruining an organization when hired, but here you go: this is what Republicans do. They don't give a damn about anybody. They're just there to rip off, steal, and then run it into the ground. This is the business ethic of Republican America.

Their fear over losing the narrative and having their shiatty little repressive party buried is making them insane. It's almost like they realize they're not the Silent Majority, and that they're just a bunch of sad freaks with a lust for power...

With the kind of resources at their disposal, why didn't they start their own clinics outside of the planned parenthood infrastructure? Oh right... because that is not what this is about.

Cat Food Sandwiches: Donations to Komen are up over 100% in the last 2 days.

It's actually probably a boon for all involved, these charities should think more about WWE or rapper style feuds that get everyone thinking about donating to their respective causes.

I need popcorn.

It's been a long, long time since I've seen a PR debacle of this magnitude. And I've seen some pretty bad ones in my time. Some of them up close and personal.

Astoundingly inept message control, every step of the way. I predict it gets worse.

I don't pay too much attention to SGK, but damned if they don't have some hotties working in their corp office in Dallas!

/Only thing I miss about not working in that building anymore

For every dollar you don't donate to SGK, donate 3 to PP

Cat Food Sandwiches: brigid_fitch: I can't be the only one enjoying the backlash against SGK. You hire backwater, Bible-thumping Fundies into your executive positions, this is what you get.

Serious Black: I believe that is the sound of a giant organization getting served.

Donations to Komen are up over 100% in the last 2 days.

As are donations to Planned Parenthood!

So...according to Susan G. Komen, abortions are bad but kiddie-diddling is okay?

brigid_fitch: I can't be the only one enjoying the backlash against SGK. You hire backwater, Bible-thumping Fundies into your executive positions, this is what you get.

I agree, but I think it's more than that. What do they call it, "charity fatigue?"

After 2, 3, 4 decades of being badgered with pink this, pink that, sponsor your friend, neighbor, coworker for this race and that race,

I think all those campaigns have built up a tremendous negative karma debt on SGK's part that now threatens to overwhelm the good things they have done.

Stories of SGK's inefficiency (whether true or not), and how they compete with other cancers or illnesses have been going around or increasing for years.

It's a reaction to the perceived moral superiority police hat that SGK has worn for years.

I think that Planned Parenthood was also perceived that way during it's fights against that asshat "filmmaker" douchebag last year.

Do not buy SGK "Pink" branded products. Buy the normal version, take the $1-2 you save and donate it to a small scale local charity which doesn't require the overhead of a full national corporation. Or really donate it to any charity which does not run advertisements on TV. You'll be doing more good than you would if you bought the pink product.

stebain: Can someone fill me in on this. I've seen a bunch of facebook shiat and a little here, but don't understand everythign that happened.

AFAIK...

SGK also provides a yearly grant to Planned Parenthood (in the neighborhood of $600k or $700k) for mammograms and other breast cancer preventative measures.
SGK instituted a rule this year barring grants to organizations under "investigation". Completely by coincidence, a Republican representative (with backing from pro-life groups) is conducting an "inquiry" into Planned Parenthood.
SGK has announced that they will no longer be giving their yearly grants to Planned Parenthood, citing this rule and the Congressional "inquiry".

Coincidentally, SGK recently hired Karen Handel as Executive VP of Public Policy. Handel is a pro-life former Republican gubernatorial candidate from Georgia; Planned Parenthood is one of her favorite targets.

Cat Food Sandwiches: Donations to Komen are up over 100% in the last 2 days.

Oh, and I completely forgot to mention how several local and regional affiliates of Komen have complained about the national decision to prevent them from continuing to support Planned Parenthood.

Not so long ago, a story came out about how Komen was suing others who used the words 'race' and 'cure' in the name or advertising. I called my local and the national to complain. Money is being diverted to attorneys and courts over meaningless crap. It was obvious that Komen does not care whatsoever about curing anything but has become just a tool to scam money from people wishing to make a difference. It would be interesting to see the ties between the management and the lawyers for sure.

Komen does not care, like most of us in the end do not really care, or the world would not be so full of toxic waste. How many people got cancer for that apple u got in your lap?

There are many organizations that help cancer patients and research. Choose another or just don't bother and help cull the overpopulation. Matter of fact, throw some batteries out and crank up the power so we can spew more toxic waste and kill more faster. Seems like the family value thing to do based on our history and actions.


ps...until sport is privatized out of K-12 and universities... teachers will continue to be fired, tuition will rise...the plan to keep America stupid seems to be working.

balls before books = brain dead voters btw . . and u wonder why the US is the Alabama of world education ~.~

Komen's donations may be spiking now, but I'll be they see a long-term loss as many repeat supporters quietly decline to continue to donate.

Nabb1: My wife and I made a significant donation last night. While I don't really like the Planned Parenthood decision, they do fund a lot of research that Planned Parenthood does not do. This kerfuffle is really a case of throwing out the baby with the bath water.

You mean like the embryonic stem-cell research programs that they recently stopped funding?

Nabb1: Cat Food Sandwiches: brigid_fitch: I can't be the only one enjoying the backlash against SGK. You hire backwater, Bible-thumping Fundies into your executive positions, this is what you get.

Serious Black: I believe that is the sound of a giant organization getting served.

Donations to Komen are up over 100% in the last 2 days.

My wife and I made a significant donation last night. While I don't really like the Planned Parenthood decision, they do fund a lot of research that Planned Parenthood does not do. This kerfuffle is really a case of throwing out the baby with the bath water.

Fair enough - they made a political decision and they'll get money from people who support their political view. My guess is that they've done permanent damage to their brand, but we'll see. 48 hours of donation isn't going to tell the whole story.

Hopefully Bain Capital will step in to save this money maker.

Headso: It was just a coincidence that a fundie republican took over there as VP and this happened, yep... sounds believable and stuff.

And it just so happened to fall in a year where there was a widespread coordinated all out attack on Planned Parenthood, and women's reproductive health in general, by the GOP on the local, state and federal levels.

Amazing coincidences abound.

I don't quite get the uproar of a private organization taking their money elsewhere.

If Company X donates money to a charity, they can never stop for any reason of their choosing?

I don't care much for SGK for various reasons, but this outrage is unfounded.

If you support Planned Parenthood, give them money. But you're then apparently commited for life to do so or you hate women.

AbbeySomeone: I am truly getting a kick out of the walls crumbling around these uppity b*tches, it just keeps getting more interesting.
Bottom line here is money and political power. I'd say that the 77% that is pocketed or used for 'overhead' and salaries is a conservative figure. Many of their grants are for political connections and favors and have very little to do with helping women in need.

It's funny that they can limit the overhead from health providers to 10% or something like that and organisations like this can do what they want.

Evidently Komen gives grants to about 2000 organizations each year.

How many of them are being cut off under this new policy? One.

Phorever_Phailurz: and u wonder why the US is the Alabama of world education ~.~

Except that isn't true. While K-12 might not be as good as some parts of the world the University system is far and away the best. Especially when it comes to PhD in the sciences. People still come from all over the world to study in the US and the US publishes more than the rest of the world.

I've not paid attention to SGK until now.. this morning, oh yeah, the yogurt that my hotel puts out each morning always has SGK on the top of it.. should I even put it out now?

sneathbean: Komen's donations may be spiking now, but I'll be they see a long-term loss as many repeat supporters quietly decline to continue to donate.

Komen's donations are spiking now because they are being propped up by anti-planned parenthood fundies. After the initial surge these people will realize that they still hate women and Komen is an organization who says they exist to support womens' health, and will quietly discontinue donating. Komen is done for.

MugzyBrown: If Company X donates money to a charity, they can never stop for any reason of their choosing?

Sure they can. They just have to deal with the consequences of that decision.

Nabb1: My wife and I made a significant donation last night. While I don't really like the Planned Parenthood decision, they do fund a lot of research that Planned Parenthood does not do. This kerfuffle is really a case of throwing out the baby with the bath water.

So, you're in support of organizations that put political and religious bias ahead of fighting cancer?

Well, that's nice.

MugzyBrown: I don't quite get the uproar of a private organization taking their money elsewhere.

If Company X donates money to a charity, they can never stop for any reason of their choosing?

I don't care much for SGK for various reasons, but this outrage is unfounded.

If you support Planned Parenthood, give them money. But you're then apparently commited for life to do so or you hate women.

You must have missed all the SGK threads, including this one.

The anger directed towards SGK is not because they cut their PP funding, but WHY they cut the funding.

Marcus Aurelius: Corporate sponsorships are where they make their real money, though. Contact their sponsors and tell them you'll never buy their products while they sponsor these assholes.

Exactly. If you see something in pink, just don't buy it. If nothing else, buy the non pink packaged stuff.

satanorsanta: Except that isn't true. While K-12 might not be as good as some parts of the world the University system is far and away the best. Especially when it comes to PhD in the sciences. People still come from all over the world to study in the US and the US publishes more than the rest of the world.

While true, if you look at the trends, China will overtake the US in science very soon. China is growing significantly faster than the US and China is throwing a huge amount of money at science.

MugzyBrown: If Company X donates money to a charity, they can never stop for any reason of their choosing?

I don't care much for SGK for various reasons, but this outrage is unfounded.

Bringing in a pro-life former politician to run the company and beginning to cut funding based on political and religious reasons while hiding behind false pretenses is a retarded reason. And, brings with it much backlash.