Sleeping Monkey: It's so sad that all of that pink stuff will now, and forever after, be seen as supporting right-wing fringe groups rather than the cause of reducing breast cancer. Way to ruin your brand.

And those guys HATE boobies, too.

Sleeping Monkey: It's so sad that all of that pink stuff will now, and forever after, be seen as supporting right-wing fringe groups rather than the cause of reducing breast cancer. Way to ruin your brand.

Even worse, for every dollar you donate to them now, about 50 cents will be spent by them simply running TV ads apologizing and trying to undo the damage, instead of simply helping people. Though it's unclear how much actual help they have ever done since they were founded.

Lost Thought 00: Sleeping Monkey: It's so sad that all of that pink stuff will now, and forever after, be seen as supporting right-wing fringe groups rather than the cause of reducing breast cancer. Way to ruin your brand.

Even worse, for every dollar you donate to them now, about 50 cents will be spent by them simply running TV ads apologizing and trying to undo the damage, instead of simply helping people. Though it's unclear how much actual help they have ever done since they were founded.

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DeltaPunch: It's easy to blame that new anti-abortion executive that they hired, but she got hired after running for some political office in Georgia, and I'm pretty sure she ran on a heavy "de-fund Planned Parenthood" platform. So who's responsible for hiring her? They knew what they were getting themselves into...

Are you saying they bought their tickets?

DeltaPunch: It's easy to blame that new anti-abortion executive that they hired, but she got hired after running for some political office in Georgia, and I'm pretty sure she ran on a heavy "de-fund Planned Parenthood" platform. So who's responsible for hiring her? They knew what they were getting themselves into...

I say, let em crash!

In all seriousness, though, this is a terrible decision. And the backlash could just make them do something even more stupid, like the pink handgun thing. They're now MADD in my eyes - good idea hijacked by the crazies.

I got hit up by a Catholic the other day for money for a charity to buy mammogram machines for some place like the Vitae Society, which is basically the bizarro-PP. I hope Komen doesn't start supporting those regressive assholes now as a way to claim that they're still providing cheapie mammograms through a nonprofit.

You know, it is interesting to see how the debate and fallout of this goes.

Half the people I have labeled as right wing trolls/partisan hacks are actually fighting with the other right wing themed accounts over this. Not a lot of issues cause a split like this in the troll account community.

Komen went full Netflix.

/They deserve what they get.

phyrkrakr: DeltaPunch: It's easy to blame that new anti-abortion executive that they hired, but she got hired after running for some political office in Georgia, and I'm pretty sure she ran on a heavy "de-fund Planned Parenthood" platform. So who's responsible for hiring her? They knew what they were getting themselves into...

I say, let em crash!

In all seriousness, though, this is a terrible decision. And the backlash could just make them do something even more stupid, like the pink handgun thing. They're now MADD in my eyes - good idea hijacked by the crazies.

I got hit up by a Catholic the other day for money for a charity to buy mammogram machines for some place like the Vitae Society, which is basically the bizarro-PP. I hope Komen doesn't start supporting those regressive assholes now as a way to claim that they're still providing cheapie mammograms through a nonprofit.

The part that makes me angry is that it wasn't an accidental decision. The decision to change their policy was made after Planned Parenthood came under a politically motivated investigation by pro-life assholes in Congress, and well after they hired Karen Handel. Komen's PR flacks are trying to claim that the decision was "mischaracterized", but that's, quite simply, a lie. You don't hire a vehement pro-life politician hopeful who ran on a "defund Planned Parenthood" platform as a vice president, and then get to claim that had nothing to do with the organization's defunding of Planned Parenthood a short time later.

No one's that stupid. The pro-lifers are already cheering Komen's decision. The pro-choicers are decrying Komen's decision. The folks who don't have an opinion are wondering why in the hell a breast cancer organization has expressed an opinion about abortion.

The Komen brand has just been transformed from "greedy, but altruistic do-gooders" to "greedy, but ass-kissing pro-lifers" pretty much overnight, and at their own expense. Tough.

Satanic_Hamster: You know, it is interesting to see how the debate and fallout of this goes.

Half the people I have labeled as right wing trolls/partisan hacks are actually fighting with the other right wing themed accounts over this. Not a lot of issues cause a split like this in the troll account community.

If I can hazard a guess, there's a big difference between fiscal conservatives and social conservatives. We have a lot of both.

HotIgneous Intruder: Komen went full Netflix.

/They deserve what they get.

Eh, even Netflix is bringing Arrested Development back.

Sleeping Monkey: It's so sad that all of that pink stuff will now, and forever after, be seen as supporting right-wing fringe groups rather than the cause of reducing breast cancer. Way to ruin your brand.

Indeed. The pink is now tainted with Santorum issues, and it may now serve as a breeding ground for these fun guys that are just angry about PP's servicing of womens' needs. Hopefully they can cleanse the staff of the Santorum view and then get the pink can stay clean and open from now on.

HotIgneous Intruder: Komen went full Netflix.

/They deserve what they get.


Netflix made an understandable business decision in the worst way possible. While their image suffered in the public arena, the decision itself wasn't a deal breaker for many because they do offer better or the same value as their competitors. Due to their redeeming qualities they recovered.

I don't think this is a comparable situation to Komen. The decision wasn't sensible and they don't offer a good value compared to competitors. The only similarity was the lack of foresight concerning the public's reaction. Does Komen have any redeeming qualities?

FormlessOne: The part that makes me angry is that it wasn't an accidental decision.

Why are you angry about how a private organization chooses to spend its money? Are you angry when the Yankees spend too much on A-Rod? When your neighbor buys an above-ground pool? If so, you're (1) obnoxious, and (2) beset with anger issues.

Related issues: would it make you less angry if the Komen Foundation had made this decision "by accident" (whatever that might mean)? What if Komen had handled it better and said, effectively "We're not funding Planned Parenthood because, frankly, they don't do much in terms of screening, and so funding them isn't the best thing we can do with our limited funds in terms of promoting the fight against breast cancer"?

fracto73: Does Komen have any redeeming qualities?

Wow, just wow. Y'all are awfully quick to forget that it was Komen, not YOU, for example, that brought breast cancer awareness to a level previously achieved only by the American Heart Association and the American Lung Association. Ten years ago there were legitimate, serious complaints about the disparities in research funding on men's versus women's health issues, and Komen was central in both leading the fight for and directly funding research to counter that imbalance.

But all that is nothing if they stop feeding the sacred cow, I guess.

Garet Garrett: fracto73: Does Komen have any redeeming qualities?

Wow, just wow. Y'all are awfully quick to forget that it was Komen, not YOU, for example, that brought breast cancer awareness to a level previously achieved only by the American Heart Association and the American Lung Association. Ten years ago there were legitimate, serious complaints about the disparities in research funding on men's versus women's health issues, and Komen was central in both leading the fight for and directly funding research to counter that imbalance.

But all that is nothing if they stop feeding the sacred cow, I guess.


Maybe they were great once, but now there are other organisations who do the same work with more funding going to cancer research or prevention. What makes Komen a better charity than other organisations with the same mission?

Garet Garrett: FormlessOne: The part that makes me angry is that it wasn't an accidental decision.

Why are you angry about how a private organization chooses to spend its money? Are you angry when the Yankees spend too much on A-Rod? When your neighbor buys an above-ground pool? If so, you're (1) obnoxious, and (2) beset with anger issues.

Related issues: would it make you less angry if the Komen Foundation had made this decision "by accident" (whatever that might mean)? What if Komen had handled it better and said, effectively "We're not funding Planned Parenthood because, frankly, they don't do much in terms of screening, and so funding them isn't the best thing we can do with our limited funds in terms of promoting the fight against breast cancer"?

That was a really stupid series of analogies, mainly because those examples in no way effect the life-of-death outcomes of PP cancer screening patients like recent events have done.

At what point do assholes like you stop seeing dollar signs and start seeing human life?

Eshman: Garet Garrett: FormlessOne: The part that makes me angry is that it wasn't an accidental decision.

Why are you angry about how a private organization chooses to spend its money? Are you angry when the Yankees spend too much on A-Rod? When your neighbor buys an above-ground pool? If so, you're (1) obnoxious, and (2) beset with anger issues.

Related issues: would it make you less angry if the Komen Foundation had made this decision "by accident" (whatever that might mean)? What if Komen had handled it better and said, effectively "We're not funding Planned Parenthood because, frankly, they don't do much in terms of screening, and so funding them isn't the best thing we can do with our limited funds in terms of promoting the fight against breast cancer"?

That was a really stupid series of analogies, mainly because those examples in no way effect the life-of-death outcomes of PP cancer screening patients like recent events have done.

At what point do assholes like you stop seeing dollar signs and start seeing human life?

between conception and birth, and at executions.