Good for her. SGK was one charity that I really admired--great cause, handled their finances well, great marketing. Until they elected a Bible-thumping Fundie like Karen Handel as their Senior VP of policy. F*ck them. I'll be sending my SGK donations to Planned Parenthood from now on.

This just keeps getting worse and worse for a terrible charity. The schadenfreude is almost overwhelming.

Yeah. This really isn't much of an update. When Karen Handel packs her bags and SGK tosses the fundy-tards and destructive conservatives out, I might have hope, but, as it stands, I will never give a dime to that organization again.

I think the only way this ends is with Komen shuttering their doors, though. The fact that they will now be associated with taking steps to not prevent breast cancer in America's poor will be seen as going against their mission.

Good job, Komen. You made America hate you.

Friend of mine is a survivor, her and her company threw themselves behind Kohmer, now no more,

PP is one of the largest providers of screening and women's health services in the nation, to bad the fundies would rather have the poor, pregnant, diseased or deceased than support PP

Am I a bad person for watching the destruction and loving it? The Komen group wasn't anything good before. Now I hope they obliterate.

Azlefty: Friend of mine is a survivor, her and her company threw themselves behind Kohmer, now no more,

PP is one of the largest providers of screening and women's health services in the nation, to bad the fundies would rather have the poor, pregnant, diseased or deceased than support PP

Amusingly and sadly enough, the Fundies STILL won't support Komen even after this.

GAT_00: Am I a bad person for watching the destruction and loving it? The Komen group wasn't anything good before. Now I hope they obliterate.

Just as bad a person as I am, I guess. I'm thoroughly enjoying watching them crash & burn and watching the donations (including my own) pour into Planned Parenthood. In the last day alone, donations have almost equaled what SGK gave them in a year. Link (new window) PP comes out ahead & SGK has a mushroom cloud of negative PR over it.

GAT_00: Am I a bad person for watching the destruction and loving it? The Komen group wasn't anything good before. Now I hope they obliterate.

I hope they do too. There are far more worthy cancer charities that don't sue other charities for using the color pink or the word "cure."

brigid_fitch: GAT_00: Am I a bad person for watching the destruction and loving it? The Komen group wasn't anything good before. Now I hope they obliterate.

Just as bad a person as I am, I guess. I'm thoroughly enjoying watching them crash & burn and watching the donations (including my own) pour into Planned Parenthood. In the last day alone, donations have almost equaled what SGK gave them in a year. Link (new window) PP comes out ahead & SGK has a mushroom cloud of negative PR over it.

The difference is between you and me is I've been waiting for this for quite a while.

GAT_00: brigid_fitch: GAT_00: Am I a bad person for watching the destruction and loving it? The Komen group wasn't anything good before. Now I hope they obliterate.

Just as bad a person as I am, I guess. I'm thoroughly enjoying watching them crash & burn and watching the donations (including my own) pour into Planned Parenthood. In the last day alone, donations have almost equaled what SGK gave them in a year. Link (new window) PP comes out ahead & SGK has a mushroom cloud of negative PR over it.

The difference is between you and me is I've been waiting for this for quite a while.

I'm with you. But, I didn't realize just how truly evil they were until this hit the fan.

This is a real thing

Vodka Zombie: I'm with you. But, I didn't realize just how truly evil they were until this hit the fan.

I always hate when people run support on products like that, particularly when they jack the price up the way the Komen group always did. It's a profit scam. Hell, I'm amazed everyone didn't do it, it's money for the company since they jack the price up that much to put pink on the product, and Komen gets money. Not to mention the fact that I think they've significantly crowded out funding for other cancers, including the one I've got a good chance of getting one day based on family history.

I was trying to figure out why, if you support Planned Parenthood more than you'd support Komen - - why wouldn't you donate directly to Planned Parenthood in the first place? It's about as silly as collecting overpriced General Mills cereal boxtops to get band instruments for your local school, instead of just buying cheaper cereal and flat-out donating cash to the school band fund.

DarthBrooks: I was trying to figure out why, if you support Planned Parenthood more than you'd support Komen - - why wouldn't you donate directly to Planned Parenthood in the first place? It's about as silly as collecting overpriced General Mills cereal boxtops to get band instruments for your local school, instead of just buying cheaper cereal and flat-out donating cash to the school band fund.

I don't think most people knew that SGK gave money to PP. And likely they gave to both if they were interested in what both organizations were doing.

The backlash is because SGK is allowing their religious opinions to get in the way of their mission. Abortion doesn't have dick to do with the prevention and eventual cure of breast cancer.

GAT_00: Not to mention the fact that I think they've significantly crowded out funding for other cancers, including the one I've got a good chance of getting one day based on family history.

They also recommend a drug that's supposed to prevent breast cancer, called Raloxifene, which happens to increase the risk of developing ovarian cancer (which my grandma recently died from- meanwhile the overall 5 year survival rate for all stages of ovarian cancer is 47% vs. breast cancer's 84%). Another "preventive" drug they recommend Tamoxifen, increases the risk of stroke by 50%.

Jake Havechek: Planned Parenthood offers a lot of services for low income mothers.

Conservative asswipes think it's only an abortion mill.

I wish PP would be more outspoken about this. Before I had health insurance (I don't now, actually) that's where I went for routine care. The doc I saw there was way better than some private practices.

sweetmelissa31: This is a real thing

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Sorry. No it isn't.

There is no way you can order a bucket and get that much chicken.

James!: The backlash is because SGK is allowing their religious opinions to get in the way of their mission. Abortion doesn't have dick to do with the prevention and eventual cure of breast cancer.

Agreed - abortion and breast cancer are as closely related as thumbtacks and giraffes.

If SGK donated all its money formerly sent to PP on to Catholic Charities (another social services aid group - with a larger clientele, serving 8 million clients instead of PP's 3 million), offering referrals for breast cancer screening minus the abortion part of PP - - would that be a wrong move?

DarthBrooks: James!: The backlash is because SGK is allowing their religious opinions to get in the way of their mission. Abortion doesn't have dick to do with the prevention and eventual cure of breast cancer.

Agreed - abortion and breast cancer are as closely related as thumbtacks and giraffes.

If SGK donated all its money formerly sent to PP on to Catholic Charities (another social services aid group - with a larger clientele, serving 8 million clients instead of PP's 3 million), offering referrals for breast cancer screening minus the abortion part of PP - - would that be a wrong move?

Probably, if the Catholic Charities doesn't do anything regarding breast cancer why would SGK give them money? PP is all about women's health. Catholic Charities does a lot of stuff, but medical screenings doesn't seem to be one of them.

I'm not even sure why you're comparing the two.

sweetmelissa31: This is a real thing

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Another article I read compared that to the American Heart Association advertising on a pack of cigarettes

Looks like SGK is Komen apart

Looks like I'll continue to not buy "Amy's Blend" from Caribou. Or give them extra money.

Good riddance.

brigid_fitch: Good for her.

Vodka Zombie: When Karen Handel packs her bags and SGK tosses the fundy-tards and destructive conservatives out, I might have hope, but, as it stands, I will never give a dime to that organization again.

I would call her a "Serena Joy", but to really resonate with the new generation, I say that "Putting Karen Handel in a position of authority at the Susan G. Komen Foundation is like putting Dolores Umbridge in charge of Hogwarts"

In a weird coincidence, I sponsored a friend who ran in a SKG fund-raising 5K just this past Saturday, before I heard the news about them sticking it to PP. First and last money SKG will get from me. Now excuse me while I go donate the same amount, or maybe more, to PP. PP is always after me to donate, anyhow.

Politics, money & religion...a VERY bad mix!

AbbeySomeone: I've always felt that SGK was a scam preying on the fears and sympathies of many. When the dust clears on this I'm sure there will be many more stories revealing what they are all about.
PP should be publicly funded. The politicians that are against also complain about welfare and underage mothers. If only there were a place they could go for birthcontrol and STD screenings

PP DID get public funding until very recently, if I'm not mistaken. The fundy teabagger types in congress have pulled it because of OH NOES, ABORTIONS! even though PP keeps the monies separate.

there is a SKG office in the building I work in, and they're a bunch of inept morons. As vapid a crowd as you can get.

Many moons ago a whole shipment of PC components were delivered to them by mistake. Once I found out where they went to I walked upstairs to retrieve them.

They all decided to bolt early on a Friday, at 3pm. Ok fine, I do the same thing occasionally.

What ticked me off is they had given the components to someone they knew who worked with them.

I got everything back before any of it had been used, and when I asked why they bothered to sign for something that clearly wasn't addressed to them, but someone else in the same fraking building their answer was "Well, people just give us stuff, and we assumed it was for us."

Just goes to show you what kind of people they have working for them.

GAT_00: I always hate when people run support on products like that, particularly when they jack the price up the way the Komen group always did. It's a profit scam. Hell, I'm amazed everyone didn't do it, it's money for the company since they jack the price up that much to put pink on the product, and Komen gets money.

DarthBrooks: I was trying to figure out why, if you support Planned Parenthood more than you'd support Komen - - why wouldn't you donate directly to Planned Parenthood in the first place?

It was hardly an organic "grassroots" organization to begin with. It got its support from industry. It's been co-opted by industry. It's not that people individually are particularly supporting SGK, it's that all these companies have gotten behind the organization.

Netflix, News Corp, Penn State, now this? There have been some epic PR disasters in the last few months

Debby7813: PP DID get public funding until very recently, if I'm not mistaken. The fundy teabagger types in congress have pulled it because of OH NOES, ABORTIONS! even though PP keeps the monies separate.

You are correct.

bbcard1: I think if you look at it from the long view, Planned Parenthood and Abstinence Only are about equally successful in curbing teen pregnancy. Oh, except in the markets where PP operates abortion clinics. That works to curb it pretty effectively.

Have you never heard of condoms?

Vodka Zombie: Yeah. This really isn't much of an update. When Karen Handel packs her bags and SGK tosses the fundy-tards and destructive conservatives out, I might have hope, but, as it stands, I will never give a dime to that organization again.

I think the only way this ends is with Komen shuttering their doors, though. The fact that they will now be associated with taking steps to not prevent breast cancer in America's poor will be seen as going against their mission.

Good job, Komen. You made America hate you.

I predict, and will even lay money that Karen Handel will not be employed by SGK one week from today. But that's because you know her name and she is a convenient rage-focusing tool. The real qustion that must be adressed and fixed is how the hell did such a plarizing and hyper-partisan figures such as her even get hired in the first place?

It's not like her views on PP, a major partner of SKG, were any secret to anyone. So was this a deliberate attempt to politicize the charity or gross incompetence on the part of its board?

Is there any organization out there that does what PP does, minus abortions? If not, maybe the PP opponents' time and money would be better spent creating a service like that.

Oh, wait - most of the vocal PP opponents could give a crap about women's health.

Argh.

bbcard1: I think if you look at it from the long view, Planned Parenthood and Abstinence Only are about equally successful in curbing teen pregnancy. Oh, except in the markets where PP operates abortion clinics. That works to curb it pretty effectively.

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No, I'm not going to bite.

Okay, I am.

Education and access to birth control are far more effective in reducing teen pregnancy than teaching abstinence only.