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2012-02-02 01:31:29 PM
WWMD?
 
2012-02-02 01:32:24 PM
Pretty standard stuff for a prayer breakfast.

Stupid tag is stupid.
 
2012-02-02 01:36:19 PM
SEE! HE'S A MUSLIM!
 
2012-02-02 01:37:06 PM
My take away after watching it was his message to Repbulicans: You call yourselves Christians. Now start acting like it.
 
2012-02-02 01:37:25 PM

EnviroDude: WWMD?


Always let truth Tellers reveal obvious life lessons.
 
2012-02-02 01:37:43 PM
Good deal! Taxes down to 10% then?
 
2012-02-02 01:38:50 PM
Obama has never hidden his deep commitment to Crom.
 
2012-02-02 01:39:41 PM
I look forward to the day when a person will be elected President in the United States and is openly atheist.

About eighty years from now.
 
2012-02-02 01:41:34 PM

Lando Lincoln: I look forward to the day when a person will be elected President in the United States and is openly atheist.

About eighty years from now.



When it's too late
 
2012-02-02 01:42:05 PM

Diogenes: My take away after watching it was his message to Repbulicans: You call yourselves Christians. Now start acting like it.


Exactly. He pointed out that in the bible it says numerous times to help the less fortunate. He should have pointed out that Jesus would have been called a commie liberal today.
 
2012-02-02 01:45:55 PM

Lando Lincoln: I look forward to the day when a person will be elected President in the United States and is openly atheist.

About eighty years from now.


I am curious as to why. In what way has Obama's faith been used to set policy? Believing in God in not inherently evil. Forcing others to live by your own moral code, shoving legislation down peoples throats based on your religion, etc.. is wrong I honestly don't see Obama doing that at all.
 
2012-02-02 01:47:28 PM

GWLush: He should have pointed out that Jesus would have been called a commie liberal today.


Highly unlikely. Jesus would not be a liberal, but a libertarian.
 
2012-02-02 01:47:38 PM
Is it just me, or has Obama been looking a little Boehner, I mean orange, recently? Not sure if it's his make-up staff or what.
 
2012-02-02 01:49:28 PM
At a rally Tuesday night, GOP presidential candidate Newt Gingrich said Obama was "declaring war on the Catholic Church."

Protestants have also declared war on holy mother Church with their heresy. Maybe Gingrich should speak out against them too.
 
2012-02-02 01:49:34 PM

EnviroDude: GWLush: He should have pointed out that Jesus would have been called a commie liberal today.

Highly unlikely. Jesus would not be a liberal, but a libertarian.


You've never actually read the Gospels, have you?
 
2012-02-02 01:50:37 PM

kbronsito: At a rally Tuesday night, GOP presidential candidate Newt Gingrich said Obama was "declaring war on the Catholic Church."

Protestants have also declared war on holy mother Church with their heresy. Maybe Gingrich should speak out against them too.


The funny thing about that statement is how anti-Catholic Gingrich is in regards to social and economic justice. They're very, very for it. He calls it evil socialism.
 
2012-02-02 01:53:29 PM

Aarontology: EnviroDude: GWLush: He should have pointed out that Jesus would have been called a commie liberal today.

Highly unlikely. Jesus would not be a liberal, but a libertarian.

You've never actually read the Gospels, have you?


You mean where Jesus tells everybody to "Go and Sin no more"? Or where if he needed anything, he made it himself (like fishing for taxes or making wine from water or taking food and making more food). The guy was self reliant, defied governmental rules and traditions. At least one in His inner circle carried a sword and wasn't afraid to use it (though I think he was aiming to cut off somebody's head and not an ear).
 
2012-02-02 01:53:32 PM

nvmac: Pretty standard stuff for a prayer breakfast.

Stupid tag is stupid.


Standard stuff for a prayer breakfast is pretty stupid...so maybe tag is accurate?
 
2012-02-02 01:54:11 PM

EnviroDude: GWLush: He should have pointed out that Jesus would have been called a commie liberal today.

Highly unlikely. Jesus would not be a liberal, but a libertarian.


Yeah, Jesus was all about, "The free market" and "I got mine now you can't have any".
 
2012-02-02 01:55:35 PM

EnviroDude: like fishing for taxes or making wine from water or taking food and making more food


Yeah, he used magic.
 
2012-02-02 01:56:13 PM

GWLush: EnviroDude: GWLush: He should have pointed out that Jesus would have been called a commie liberal today.

Highly unlikely. Jesus would not be a liberal, but a libertarian.

Yeah, Jesus was all about, "The free market" and "I got mine now you can't have any".


The only Libertarian ideal I can think of that Jesus would agree with is non-intervention.
 
2012-02-02 01:57:35 PM

mahuika: Is it just me, or has Obama been looking a little Boehner,



I don't see it.

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2012-02-02 02:01:51 PM

Diogenes: The only Libertarian ideal I can think of that Jesus would agree with is non-intervention.


Jesus was pro-war in some cases. In the bible he said, "Go thou and slay more Muslims."
 
2012-02-02 02:02:16 PM

EnviroDude: Aarontology: EnviroDude: GWLush: He should have pointed out that Jesus would have been called a commie liberal today.

Highly unlikely. Jesus would not be a liberal, but a libertarian.

You've never actually read the Gospels, have you?

You mean where Jesus tells everybody to "Go and Sin no more"? Or where if he needed anything, he made it himself (like fishing for taxes or making wine from water or taking food and making more food). The guy was self reliant, defied governmental rules and traditions. At least one in His inner circle carried a sword and wasn't afraid to use it (though I think he was aiming to cut off somebody's head and not an ear).


Scale it back a bit. You're being a bit of a caricature. Besides, with this tack, all someone has to do to completely destroy you is...
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Oops.
 
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2012-02-02 02:02:56 PM

EnviroDude: GWLush: He should have pointed out that Jesus would have been called a commie liberal today.

Highly unlikely. Jesus would not be a liberal, but a libertarian.


Yes, everyone remembers Jesus' sermon on small government.
 
2012-02-02 02:05:06 PM

GWLush: Lando Lincoln: I look forward to the day when a person will be elected President in the United States and is openly atheist.

About eighty years from now.

I am curious as to why. In what way has Obama's faith been used to set policy? Believing in God in not inherently evil. Forcing others to live by your own moral code, shoving legislation down peoples throats based on your religion, etc.. is wrong I honestly don't see Obama doing that at all.


I would like to see an atheist President because atheists have never been elected President. Heck, I don't know if any atheists have ever been elected as high as mayor, let alone a state senator seat or (God forbid) a federal Congressional seat.

Believing in God is not inherently evil. I believe in God and I am evil. Oh, wait. That's a bad example.

Saying that you don't believe in God pretty much guarantees that the religious whackjobs will do everything they can to stop you from getting into office. You could be the nicest guy on Earth and have nothing against people that believe in God and would never do anything to diminish their right to believe what they want to believe, but none of that would matter to them. That's a form of discrimination.
 
2012-02-02 02:07:50 PM

EnviroDude: You mean where Jesus tells everybody to "Go and Sin no more"? Or where if he needed anything, he made it himself (like fishing for taxes or making wine from water or taking food and making more food). The guy was self reliant, defied governmental rules and traditions. At least one in His inner circle carried a sword and wasn't afraid to use it (though I think he was aiming to cut off somebody's head and not an ear).


Supply Side Jesus isn't actual Jesus, dude.

All of those examples you cited are Jesus redistributing something to everyone so all can share.
 
2012-02-02 02:11:28 PM

Lando Lincoln: I would like to see an atheist President because atheists have never been elected President.


We'll probably get a gay President before we get an atheist in the WH. Maher contracted PPP to run some polls for one of his shows this season.

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2012-02-02 02:13:07 PM
Of course, that polls is just Republicans.
 
2012-02-02 02:16:32 PM

James!: EnviroDude: like fishing for taxes or making wine from water or taking food and making more food

Yeah, he used magic.


To be fair, so does a lot of Libertarian ideology.
 
2012-02-02 02:31:04 PM

EnviroDude: Aarontology: EnviroDude: GWLush: He should have pointed out that Jesus would have been called a commie liberal today.

Highly unlikely. Jesus would not be a liberal, but a libertarian.

You've never actually read the Gospels, have you?

You mean where Jesus tells everybody to "Go and Sin no more"? Or where if he needed anything, he made it himself (like fishing for taxes or making wine from water or taking food and making more food). The guy was self reliant, defied governmental rules and traditions. At least one in His inner circle carried a sword and wasn't afraid to use it (though I think he was aiming to cut off somebody's head and not an ear).


You do realize that Jesus made wine and food for other people to eat, right? That Jesus was all about helping out his fellow man. He wasn't some dude just hoarding fish and bread and saying fark the Government.
 
2012-02-02 02:38:19 PM

EnviroDude: Aarontology: EnviroDude: GWLush: He should have pointed out that Jesus would have been called a commie liberal today.

Highly unlikely. Jesus would not be a liberal, but a libertarian.

You've never actually read the Gospels, have you?

You mean where Jesus tells everybody to "Go and Sin no more"? Or where if he needed anything, he made it himself (like fishing for taxes or making wine from water or taking food and making more food). The guy was self reliant, defied governmental rules and traditions. At least one in His inner circle carried a sword and wasn't afraid to use it (though I think he was aiming to cut off somebody's head and not an ear).


Look at the dumbness in this post.
 
2012-02-02 02:38:23 PM

GWLush: EnviroDude: Aarontology: EnviroDude: GWLush: He should have pointed out that Jesus would have been called a commie liberal today.

Highly unlikely. Jesus would not be a liberal, but a libertarian.

You've never actually read the Gospels, have you?

You mean where Jesus tells everybody to "Go and Sin no more"? Or where if he needed anything, he made it himself (like fishing for taxes or making wine from water or taking food and making more food). The guy was self reliant, defied governmental rules and traditions. At least one in His inner circle carried a sword and wasn't afraid to use it (though I think he was aiming to cut off somebody's head and not an ear).

You do realize that Jesus made wine and food for other people to eat, right? That Jesus was all about helping out his fellow man. He wasn't some dude just hoarding fish and bread and saying fark the Government.


He also loved beating the fark out of some bankers.
 
2012-02-02 02:38:26 PM

Lando Lincoln: I would like to see an atheist President because atheists have never been elected President. Heck, I don't know if any atheists have ever been elected as high as mayor, let alone a state senator seat or (God forbid) a federal Congressional seat.


Pete Stark (D-CA13) while identifying as Unitarian religiously, does not believe in God.
He's the highest "atheist" out of the closet. The rumor is there's over a dozen in Congress who don't want to hurt their electoral chances, which means odds are there's at least one in the senate.
 
2012-02-02 02:38:33 PM

GWLush: You do realize that Jesus made wine and food for other people to eat, right? That Jesus was all about helping out his fellow man. He wasn't some dude just hoarding fish and bread and saying fark the Government.


Aarontology: EnviroDude: You mean where Jesus tells everybody to "Go and Sin no more"? Or where if he needed anything, he made it himself (like fishing for taxes or making wine from water or taking food and making more food). The guy was self reliant, defied governmental rules and traditions. At least one in His inner circle carried a sword and wasn't afraid to use it (though I think he was aiming to cut off somebody's head and not an ear).

Supply Side Jesus isn't actual Jesus, dude.

All of those examples you cited are Jesus redistributing something to everyone so all can share.


You mean the taxes he paid to government that went to the corrupt politicians? Notice that he didn't tell the people begging him for help to fill out an application at the local welfare or medicaid offices?

And when you study his dealings with the governmental leadership of the day, you see that he was apt to disagree with them - not a liberal trait by today's standards.

/you guys are cracking me up.

//conservatism is about helping out your fellow man too (they give directly to those in need). Liberalism does it but using other people's money. Libertarianism keeps the government out of it completely.
 
2012-02-02 02:39:15 PM

abb3w: Lando Lincoln: I would like to see an atheist President because atheists have never been elected President. Heck, I don't know if any atheists have ever been elected as high as mayor, let alone a state senator seat or (God forbid) a federal Congressional seat.

Pete Stark (D-CA13) while identifying as Unitarian religiously, does not believe in God.
He's the highest "atheist" out of the closet. The rumor is there's over a dozen in Congress who don't want to hurt their electoral chances, which means odds are there's at least one in the senate.


I don't see how we can have a separation of church and state in this government if you have to pass a religious test to get in this government. And I want to warn everyone in the press and all the voters out there, if you demand expressions of religious faith from politicians, you are just begging to be lied to. They won't all lie to you but a lot of them will. And it will be the easiest lie they ever had to tell to get your votes. So, every day until the end of this campaign, I'll answer any question anyone has on government, But if you have a question on religion, please go to church.
 
2012-02-02 02:39:45 PM
I hate when you try so hard to pander, Obama. I know you have to, but...
 
2012-02-02 02:41:35 PM

GAT_00: I don't see how we can have a separation of church and state in this government if you have to pass a religious test to get in this government.


Technically, you don't. You just have to pass a religious test before the electorate will vote for you in most of the country... which is not quite the same thing.
 
2012-02-02 02:43:24 PM
I think this thread is probably has the most idiotic comments in the history of Fark
 
2012-02-02 02:44:12 PM

abb3w: GAT_00: I don't see how we can have a separation of church and state in this government if you have to pass a religious test to get in this government.

Technically, you don't. You just have to pass a religious test before the electorate will vote for you in most of the country... which is not quite the same thing.


It's a quote one. Two, considering that to get into government you have to get the support of the voters who require Jesus-fawning to elect you, I consider that a religious test to get into government.
 
2012-02-02 02:45:39 PM

GAT_00: abb3w: GAT_00: I don't see how we can have a separation of church and state in this government if you have to pass a religious test to get in this government.

Technically, you don't. You just have to pass a religious test before the electorate will vote for you in most of the country... which is not quite the same thing.

It's a quote one. Two, considering that to get into government you have to get the support of the voters who require Jesus-fawning to elect you, I consider that a religious test to get into government.


Constitution is meant for the Government, not the people
 
2012-02-02 02:50:36 PM

cman: Constitution is meant for the Government, not the people


The people create the government. It doesn't make it OK if they insist we break the rules. Civil rights had pretty weak support among a large number of people at one time too. That doesn't mean civil rights shouldn't have been passed. Same with gay rights, same sex marriage, all of that.
 
2012-02-02 02:54:36 PM

EnviroDude: You mean the taxes he paid to government that went to the corrupt politicians? Notice that he didn't tell the people begging him for help to fill out an application at the local welfare or medicaid offices?

And when you study his dealings with the governmental leadership of the day, you see that he was apt to disagree with them - not a liberal trait by today's standards.


Holy shiat you're serious.
 
2012-02-02 02:54:38 PM

GAT_00: cman: Constitution is meant for the Government, not the people

The people create the government. It doesn't make it OK if they insist we break the rules. Civil rights had pretty weak support among a large number of people at one time too. That doesn't mean civil rights shouldn't have been passed. Same with gay rights, same sex marriage, all of that.


You cannot force people to change their belief system. That is an insane view.

Yes, I find it wrong that the people would only elect non-Athiests. I also find it wrong what we are doing by denying homosexuals same rights as others. But it is incredibly wrong to force other people to accept our point of view.
 
2012-02-02 02:56:54 PM

cman: But it is incredibly wrong to force other people to accept our point of view.


Tell that to the other side who have no problems with forcing me to accept their point of view.
 
2012-02-02 02:57:37 PM

EnviroDude: GWLush: You do realize that Jesus made wine and food for other people to eat, right? That Jesus was all about helping out his fellow man. He wasn't some dude just hoarding fish and bread and saying fark the Government.

Aarontology: EnviroDude: You mean where Jesus tells everybody to "Go and Sin no more"? Or where if he needed anything, he made it himself (like fishing for taxes or making wine from water or taking food and making more food). The guy was self reliant, defied governmental rules and traditions. At least one in His inner circle carried a sword and wasn't afraid to use it (though I think he was aiming to cut off somebody's head and not an ear).

Supply Side Jesus isn't actual Jesus, dude.

All of those examples you cited are Jesus redistributing something to everyone so all can share.

You mean the taxes he paid to government that went to the corrupt politicians? Notice that he didn't tell the people begging him for help to fill out an application at the local welfare or medicaid offices?

And when you study his dealings with the governmental leadership of the day, you see that he was apt to disagree with them - not a liberal trait by today's standards.

/you guys are cracking me up.

//conservatism is about helping out your fellow man too (they give directly to those in need). Liberalism does it but using other people's money. Libertarianism keeps the government out of it completely.


Are you serioulsy this farking dumb or is this just an act?
 
2012-02-02 02:57:46 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: We'll probably get a gay President before we get an atheist in the WH.


I think we've already had several atheists in the White House. They pretty much founded the nation.
 
2012-02-02 02:59:07 PM

RexTalionis: cman: But it is incredibly wrong to force other people to accept our point of view.

Tell that to the other side who have no problems with forcing me to accept their point of view.


Ignore them. Take the moral high ground.
 
2012-02-02 03:00:01 PM
I remember in the bible when Jesus said, "Man these taxes and welfare queens are ruining our country, for me sake."
 
2012-02-02 03:01:24 PM
Highly unlikely. Jesus would not be a liberal, but a libertarian.

The internet is not big enough for all the copy and pasted "hahahaha" that this comment deserves.
 
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