We can undo the damage, but it's going to require old people in ren faire garb.
Do we really want to risk that?

Who cares what the roided up idot thinks? Shut up and play ball.

Yeah, but they are getting Mitt Romney for a candidate.

The flag on the play should have been "Taxed Enough Already" when it was clear we enjoyed the lowest tax rate in decades.

But NOOOOOO you people had to take these nutjobs seriously, like they represent any of you politically, socially or economically.

Yeah cause the Tea party emerged in 2006, and giving away free crap you can't pay for has worked soooooo well in the past.

Saiga410: Who cares what the roided up idot thinks? Shut up and play ball.

Nice.

Saiga410: Who cares what the roided up idot thinks? Shut up and play ball.

hehe

Don't worry. When things truly go to shiat most of the people responsible can all sit back and blame the various boogeymen they created.

Giving these people waaaay too much credit what was really an astroturf movement by the usual suspects in Freedomworks.

HotWingConspiracy: Yeah, but they are getting Mitt Romney for a candidate.

Obama with magic underwear.

Hate and Punish businesses. That'll make them hire.

Maybe if we stop giving certain ones corporate bailouts and allowing monopolies competition could rise and allow us better services.

Tingle007: Yeah cause the Tea party emerged in 2006, and giving away free crap you can't pay for has worked soooooo well in the past.

I'd be willing to listen to their screeching if these same mongoloids weren't the demographic that allowed W to damn near drive this country off a farking cliff with his drunken orgy of spending and tax breaks. For all of their complaining, I hear nary a peep from these same people about the enormous financial costs we have shouldered as a result of Iraq II: Electric Boogaloo.

You want to rein in spending and get our finances in order? Fine. Then START with the obscene military expenditures, and work your way toward understanding that taxing the rich at higher rates is how every functional first world democracy keeps itself from facing the problems we have.

Otherwise, shut the fark up.

Tingle007: Hate and Punish businesses. That'll make them hire.

1/10

Tingle007: Yeah cause the Tea party emerged in 2006


On the off-chance you are sincere, and not just posting to provoke a response, I'm going to need to see a citation for that statement.

Tingle007: Hate and Punish businesses. That'll make them hire.

Demand makes business hire, nothing else. Nothing.

Maybe if we stop giving certain ones corporate bailouts and allowing monopolies competition could rise and allow us better services.

They would see this is hating and punishing.

Author looks like Stephen Colbert in that picture.

Tingle007: Hate and Punish businesses. That'll make them hire.

Maybe if we stop giving certain ones corporate bailouts and allowing monopolies competition could rise and allow us better services.

Taxes aren't punishment.

And they wouldn't care if we hated them or loved them as long as they get our money. They'll sit there and listen to us curse out their mothers and grandmothers, as long as they get paid afterward.

Businesses don't have feelings and do not care what anyone thinks of them.

FDR didn't have to deal with a mediaopoly



The Tea Party was nothing but a media driven narrative, not a movement of any kind.

Infernalist: Tingle007: Hate and Punish businesses. That'll make them hire.

Maybe if we stop giving certain ones corporate bailouts and allowing monopolies competition could rise and allow us better services.

Taxes aren't punishment.

And they wouldn't care if we hated them or loved them as long as they get our money. They'll sit there and listen to us curse out their mothers and grandmothers, as long as they get paid afterward.

Businesses don't have feelings and do not care what anyone thinks of them.

You're wrong. Corporations are people my friend.

crab66: Don't worry. When things truly go to shiat most of the people responsible can all sit back and blame the various boogeymen they created.

This is precisely why I've said that the only thing that can possibly change the national landscape is a serious crisis; financial or otherwise.

As long as the sheeple are comfortable with their security blankets of "OMG Soros..librul media...soshulizm!!", they'll never be forced to confront how incredibly dysfunctional (and incongruent with most modern notions of democracy) their ideas are.

Too fat and happy.

Republicans in general don't understand economics.

Call me when a professor tries to teach "supply side economics." History professors don't count.

Tingle007: Hate and Punish businesses. That'll make them hire.

Maybe if we stop giving certain ones corporate bailouts and allowing monopolies competition could rise and allow us better services.

Preventing monopolies is like... the definition of punishing businesses to most people who use stupid phrases like "punishing businesses".

contrapunctus: Tingle007: Yeah cause the Tea party emerged in 2006, and giving away free crap you can't pay for has worked soooooo well in the past.

I'd be willing to listen to their screeching if these same mongoloids weren't the demographic that allowed W to damn near drive this country off a farking cliff with his drunken orgy of spending and tax breaks. For all of their complaining, I hear nary a peep from these same people about the enormous financial costs we have shouldered as a result of Iraq II: Electric Boogaloo.

You want to rein in spending and get our finances in order? Fine. Then START with the obscene military expenditures, and work your way toward understanding that taxing the rich at higher rates is how every functional first world democracy keeps itself from facing the problems we have.

Otherwise, shut the fark up.

They were never fan's of W. Just ask them. They never liked the guy.

//I hear this over and over and over.

BorgiaGinz: Tingle007: Yeah cause the Tea party emerged in 2006


On the off-chance you are sincere, and not just posting to provoke a response, I'm going to need to see a citation for that statement.

It's actually 2007 and was a rally by Libertarians for the Fair Tax.



But yeah, they were huge back then.

vudukungfu: We can undo the damage, but it's going to require old people in ren faire garb.
Do we really want to risk that?

Depends...will there be sloats?

Thank GOD we didn't get a New Deal.

Or, are all of you too ignorant of history to know that FDR's second bill of Rights was the spitting image of the Constitution of the USSR.

Yeap, The Empire that required totalitarian control of the people so it could implement that WINNING political philosophy.


AND... the Empire that went bankrupt and collapsed trying to implement it.

The author of this article is a dumbass.

The Tea Party didn't go far enough.

HotWingConspiracy: Demand makes business hire, nothing else. Nothing.

I once kidnapped the daughter of a small-business owner. The ransom note I sent told him to hire me. I did not get the job, despite my obvious qualifications.

So you explain to me how demands make businesses hire. Go on, tell me.

the little old ladies on their hover-rounds did what?

Fart_Machine: It's actually 2007 and was a rally by Libertarians for the Fair Tax.

Now how do I know just by reading that sentence that their "Fair Tax" probably isn't all that fair?

Lost me in the subtitle:

After a brutal recession was brought on by Wall Street greed

Well, if you're going to scapegoat and lie/exaggerate before you get to the body of your piece, you lose all credibility, scumbag.

The headline is probably correct, in that the teabaggers influence reduced Obama's ability to stimulate the economy and made us worse off, but I'm sure the article is full of garbage.

Tingle007: Taxation is theft, socialism is evil, regulations punish businesses, buy gold and silver.

When did Kane get a Fark account?

Thune: The Tea Party didn't go far enough.

They weren't meant to last past 2010, it's how their rich backers designed the "movement". They've already been completely marginalized, just ask candidate Romney.

Thune: Or, are all of you too ignorant of history to know that FDR's second bill of Rights was the spitting image of the Constitution of the USSR.

Tingle007: Yeah cause the Tea party emerged in 2006, and giving away free crap you can't pay for has worked soooooo well in the past.

That's like saying that the AIDS epidemic started in 1937.

Thune: Thank GOD we didn't get a New Deal.

Or, are all of you too ignorant of history to know that FDR's second bill of Rights was the spitting image of the Constitution of the USSR.

Yeap, The Empire that required totalitarian control of the people so it could implement that WINNING political philosophy.


AND... the Empire that went bankrupt and collapsed trying to implement it.

The author of this article is a dumbass.

The Tea Party didn't go far enough.

You smell goldy and silvery. Let me hear your stance on fiat currency and taxes. I'm all ears, Mr. Galt.

Thune: Thank GOD we didn't get a New Deal.

yeah because during the time the new deal was enacted until the time Reagan kicked off the republican war on middle class people we did not become the strongest nation in the history of the entire human race or anything.

theorellior: Thune: Or, are all of you too ignorant of history to know that FDR's second bill of Rights was the spitting image of the Constitution of the USSR.

Good Lord, you're a dumbass. You're worse than GeneralGreenText in AGW threads. Please, just go away.

Seriously, How was the statement that you quoted "dumbass"?

I did note how you didn't prove me wrong on the content on FDR's Second Bill of Rights as Compared to the Constitution of the USSR.

Pincy: Fart_Machine: It's actually 2007 and was a rally by Libertarians for the Fair Tax.

Now how do I know just by reading that sentence that their "Fair Tax" probably isn't all that fair?

Depends on your definition of fair. It replaces taxes with one big old sales tax. If you think people should be taxed on the resources they consume/purchase, it seems fair. If you think people should be taxed on their ability to pay (and the likely benefits received by living in a stable society), it does not sound fair at all.

palelizard: HotWingConspiracy: Demand makes business hire, nothing else. Nothing.

I once kidnapped the daughter of a small-business owner. The ransom note I sent told him to hire me. I did not get the job, despite my obvious qualifications.

So you explain to me how demands make businesses hire. Go on, tell me.

In this case the small business owner did the only sensible thing - math. The insurance policy on his daughter paid out far more handsomely than any future dependent tax breaks he would get. Plus no car to buy her, no college tuition, etc.

Headso: Thune: Thank GOD we didn't get a New Deal.

yeah because during the time the new deal was enacted until the time Reagan kicked off the republican war on middle class people we did not become the strongest nation in the history of the entire human race or anything.

Which as EVERYTHING TO DO with FDRs socialist policies and NOTHING TO DO with the US being the only Economic SUPER POWER after WW2 because all the others had the crap bombed out of them.

Nothing.

Yeah.

dumbass.

Debeo Summa Credo: Well, if you're going to scapegoat and lie/exaggerate before you get to the body of your piece, you lose all credibility, scumbag.

It's not much of an exaggeration when you consider that derivatives turned what would have been just another real estate bubble into a global economic fiasco.

Tingle007: Hate and Punish stimulate demand for the stuff businesses make and sell. That'll make them hire.

ftfy


Maybe if we stop giving certain ones corporate bailouts

eh, maybe, maybe not. Depends on what's judged to be the likely cost of not bailing them out.


... and allowing monopolies competition could rise and allow us better services.

Now there's an idea. You realize that "we" means "government", right? Don't think vigilantes would work, here.

I know -- let's create some sort of Federal Commission. It could deal with Trade. And maybe a Division in the Department of Justice that has some sort of Antitrust function while we're at it.

palelizard: Pincy: Fart_Machine: It's actually 2007 and was a rally by Libertarians for the Fair Tax.

Now how do I know just by reading that sentence that their "Fair Tax" probably isn't all that fair?

Depends on your definition of fair. It replaces taxes with one big old sales tax. If you think people should be taxed on the resources they consume/purchase, it seems fair. If you think people should be taxed on their ability to pay (and the likely benefits received by living in a stable society), it does not sound fair at all.

What about if your definition of unfair is "shifting the tax burden to the poor and middle class?"

Fart_Machine: BorgiaGinz: Tingle007: Yeah cause the Tea party emerged in 2006


On the off-chance you are sincere, and not just posting to provoke a response, I'm going to need to see a citation for that statement.

It's actually 2007 and was a rally by Libertarians for the Fair Tax.

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But yeah, they were huge back then.

Ok, so 10 people started the Tea Party, which took 2 years to manifest as some sort of movement, and this is considered populism.

But 2000 encampments around the world, who in a matter of months has reached the President and started the wheels of legislation, is ignored as a a few ineffectual anarchists.

WTF America.

Hot Rod Zoidberg: Fart_Machine: BorgiaGinz: Tingle007: Yeah cause the Tea party emerged in 2006


On the off-chance you are sincere, and not just posting to provoke a response, I'm going to need to see a citation for that statement.

It's actually 2007 and was a rally by Libertarians for the Fair Tax.

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But yeah, they were huge back then.

Ok, so 10 people started the Tea Party, which took 2 years to manifest as some sort of movement, and this is considered populism.

But 2000 encampments around the world, who in a matter of months has reached the President and started the wheels of legislation, is ignored as a a few ineffectual anarchists.

WTF America.

Must be that liberal media. They won't give conservatives a fair shake.