Oh, let's see...what is the appropriate response to this?

Oh, right:

This means that Sarah Palin is automatically president and Fartbongo will be deported to Kenya immediately.

"8,035 . . .had jobs"

Oh noes!

Yeah, they're right. It's not as successful as the House Republicans' No Jobs Initiative.

Ya, because no other country has green energy initiatives so there is no point in promoting or developing competing industries in the US.

An excellent example of starting with your conclusion and then searching for facts to support it.

They're really going to go the wall over 500 million that didn't work as well as the administration hoped I would? Would they feel better if half of it had gone to blowing somebody up?

Here's the answer:

Hey, Darrell Issa.

This will go right along with his expanding probe of Fast and Furious, the postal bailouts, TARP, the war in Afghanistan, Wikileaks, the FDA, and retaliating against private citizens in his ever continuing policy of "throwing shiat against a wall until it sticks".

Obama supporters fail to acknowledge failure. His "green jobs" initiatives have been an expensive failure.

What a disaster his economic policy has been.

I'll agree he's still better than Bush only cause Bush was so bad that you could be better than him and still be a disaster.

Obama's been almost perfectly wrong for this particular time.

I like how USAToday uses Facebook for comments. I can't tell if Republicans are old, square white people, or USAToday readers are old, square white people. Seems to be a lot of crossover.

Sounds like berenger at NORAD.

I'd piss on a sparkplug if I thought it would help

Doctor_TeethMD: Yeah, they're right. It's not as successful as the House Republicans' No Jobs Initiative.

Except for the 26 jobs bills passed in the House waiting for the Senate to take them up, I would completely agree.

/1,000+ days, no budget passed by the Senate

Oh nose! One of the house members that voted to end MEDICARE is investigating Fartbongo! Quick to the dissonance copter! Only tax cuts for the rich and increased military spending will save us from the negro.

At this point the GOP House is pretty much a pack of mutant salivating dogs that farked a bunch of robber barons. Remember when they told you they had a mandate in 2010 to end MEDICARE, end abortion, insert religion into your bedroom, and wreck the economy? Gee, me neither.

tnpir: Fartbongo

I must insist that you call the president by his correct name.

It's Fartwrongo now.

soy_bomb: Doctor_TeethMD: Yeah, they're right. It's not as successful as the House Republicans' No Jobs Initiative.

Except for the 26 jobs bills passed in the House waiting for the Senate to take them up, I would completely agree.

/1,000+ days, no budget passed by the Senate

Considering that all bills raising revenue must start in the House, I'm not sure what you want the Senate to do.

Dahnkster: Oh nose! One of the house members that voted to end MEDICARE is investigating Fartbongo! Quick to the dissonance copter! Only tax cuts for the rich and increased military spending will save us from the negro.

At this point the GOP House is pretty much a pack of mutant salivating dogs that farked a bunch of robber barons. Remember when they told you they had a mandate in 2010 to end MEDICARE, end abortion, insert religion into your bedroom, and wreck the economy? Gee, me neither.

Don't you have a street corner to occupy?

Critics: this plan failed on these following points and doesn't seem to be worth the money we put towards it.

Obamaphiles: durr all you have is fartbongo and kenyan and now you think sarah palin should be president! Hah, what a bunch of racist idiots.

Critics: Huh? We didn't say any of. . .

Obamaphiles: DERP!!!

Cletus C.: Obama supporters fail to acknowledge failure. His "green jobs" initiatives have been an expensive failure.

Hey, I'll acknowledge it. Obama's green jobs have been a failure. His position on NDAA, Patriot Act, The Drug War, have all sucked. I think his health care initiative is weak sauce that will cost taxpayers billions while rewarding private insurance companies. I'd still take him over ANY muthafarkin' thing that the GOP has to offer.

Don't you have a dog that needs fellating?

A sensible greens initiative: allow people dollar for dollar deductions (up to a certain amount) per year for greening up their homes and businesses. So the cost for getting new insulation, efficient lightbulbs/appliances, double paned windows, solar panels, cisterns, more efficient solar guards in their roof, and so on and so on.

Try it out for a year. If it works then do it again and consider upping the amount people can deduct. If not then cancel it.

If it's a regular thing that would create lasting demand for green products rather than just trying to jump start a new industry in the middle of a recession. It would necessarily employ blue-collar americans (contractors, carpenters, and the like) while producing lasting gains in energy consumption benefiting both individuals and the environment. Oh and it wouldn't require massive oversight or red tape. It could start showing results almost immediately.

Of course that doesn't specifically give money to big donors who can then kick some of it back to the right candidate. So I guess that's a non-starter.

According to part of the article a lot of the money hasn't been spent and the program is still ongoing.

Program promises a long term of 80k jobs. A 1.5 years later 8k jobs have been created, but how does that square with the initial estimated timeline. I'm guessing it probably took 6 months to even start training the first person due to setup time, general good training takes over a year, then there is time spent finding a job. Oh noes, things don't happen instantly.

If at first you don't succeed, give up and subsidize oil instead.

Jackson Herring: Presidebt

I don't know if you meant that, but it's awesome.

Much like pimpin, being green ain't easy.

Democrats: he said clean energy industries created 2.7 million jobs and were "expanding rapidly."

it was never designed to provide immediate results.

"It's like coming to me three days after I join Weight Watchers and yelling at me because I didn't lose 62 pounds yet,"

Republicans: But Republicans have pounced on failures, such as the bankruptcy of Solyndra

One group Issa singled out is the Pathstone Corp

Yup, let's cherry pick individual examples of failure and ignore the overall success. Oh and farking investment in our future, how does that work?

Dahnkster: Cletus C.: Obama supporters fail to acknowledge failure. His "green jobs" initiatives have been an expensive failure.

Hey, I'll acknowledge it. Obama's green jobs have been a failure. His position on NDAA, Patriot Act, The Drug War, have all sucked. I think his health care initiative is weak sauce that will cost taxpayers billions while rewarding private insurance companies. I'd still take him over ANY muthafarkin' thing that the GOP has to offer.

Don't you have a dog that needs fellating?

Only the last part would work on a bumper sticker.

meat0918: You mean like the windows and weatherizing and fireplace efficiency stuff in the stimulus that Republicans ragged on?

My woodstove was indeed made in America, and was delayed because no one had any inventory, and the installers had let people go so the install was also delayed even when they had all the stuff to put it in.

Not quite. Similar but the stimulus version tried to run this in a top down way and so of course immediately ran in to red tape and hasn't been very successful.

My version would be from the bottom up and would allow individuals to decide exactly what is necessary, when, and what they're willing to pay for it (since there is a cap ultimately).

The feds should play to their strengths. They are really good at making large sums of money appear and dedicating them to specific areas. They aren't so good at micromanaging every little detail.

Sushi and the Banshees: Here's the answer:

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Say what you want about Romney, but the guy knows venture capital.
Throwing half a billion dollars of subordinated capital at a pig-in-a-poke energy company was a rookie mistake he would have never made.

Generation_D: JerseyTim: You know what is really going to suck? When the whole world is running on solar power on panels built in China and we're racing to catch up.

Thats that bootstrappy private enterprise taking the lead again.

Sure, I've heard this argument before. But letting some other country spend all the money developing the technology, then stealing it has worked very well for China and others. For some reason that wouldn't work for us?

Maybe if Republicans spent more time figuring out how to create new jobs, rather than whining like effete pansies that Obama hasn't done enough, we'd have more jobs. How about a legitimate jobs bill, GOP? No? Too busy playing politics? F*ck off.

Even as an Obama supporter, I gotta admit that any "Green Jobs" initiative is going to blow. Green jobs occur because the market demands them, not because some government program WANTS them to happen using subsidies.

The only way to really establish such jobs is to impose stricter environmental regulations, and working them through Congress in anything but economic boom times is probably a fool's errand.

Want a solar market? Mandate all new homes have solar power.
Want a "Green" landscaping market? Mandate all new construction use bioretention gardens.

Doctor_TeethMD: Yeah, they're right. It's not as successful as the House Republicans' No Jobs Initiative.

The house has passed quite a few economic bills. They go straight to Reid and are held.

qorkfiend: soy_bomb: Doctor_TeethMD: Yeah, they're right. It's not as successful as the House Republicans' No Jobs Initiative.

Except for the 26 jobs bills passed in the House waiting for the Senate to take them up, I would completely agree.

/1,000+ days, no budget passed by the Senate

Considering that all bills raising revenue must start in the House, I'm not sure what you want the Senate to do.

The house has passed 2 budgets, senate none. Do you know how government works? Honest question.

First, let me start by saying over time, I do think "green energy" has a place in America and it's energy portfolio. The first and most obvious fault with the recent "green energy" orgy was that it over promised the benefits and certainly underperformed in a dramatic fashion.

The second, and IMO a much bigger failure of the "green energy movement" was their calculus. Even President Obama argued that energy prices would need to rise dramatically in order to make alternative energy sources more attractive (I paraphrased, but feel I acurately represented what he was arguing). The problem with this thinking is the simple fact of making something new more attractive than what people are used to, it has to be much cheaper and just as reliable.The goal for "green energy" advocates should be to provide a green source of energy at the equivelant of $1.50-$2.00 a gallon gasoline, not bring other energy sources up to $3.50+ a gallon, or more so that "green energy" doesn't seem too expensive.

Lastly and this would probably be the most unpopular of my suggestions, but if there is a goal to increase "green energy" then the best chance to garner the desired outcome would to be to incentivise an existing energy company(s) to invest in "green energy." An oil company wants access to ANWR, fine, but for every dollar invested in exploring and producing oil in the ANWR project, a fixed percentage of those dollars need to be invested in "green energy" projects, or development. If "green energy" is to take hold, it will be an existing energy company that will demonstrate how to make a profit from "green energy" that others will be able to follow.