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Virginia may be about to pass a law that separates school year planning from King's Dominion's schedule. In other news, Virginia currently plans its school year around King's Dominion's schedule
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cman
2012-02-02 08:39:13 AM
To be fair, it is an awesome place to go
Slives
2012-02-02 08:41:37 AM
Kings Dominion, Busch Gardens, Water Country USA and pretty much every summer job that is tourist related.
And it is not like Virginia is the only place that does this, I think it is pretty common anywhere there is a major seasonal tourist attraction.
damageddude
2012-02-02 08:50:14 AM
Most local school districts in Northern Virginia do not open until after Labor Day. When they've sought waivers from the state, they've been rejected.
God bless America where we don't let a silly thing like getting an education interfere with summer vacation.
jaylectricity
2012-02-02 09:06:27 AM
Do they pass out Kings Dominion bucks to their employees to spend at Kings Dominion stores?
Slives
2012-02-02 09:15:20 AM
jaylectricity
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Do they pass out Kings Dominion bucks to their employees to spend at Kings Dominion stores?
Not when I worked there. But a lot could have changed since then.
Great_Milenko
2012-02-02 09:22:59 AM
well, I suppose it's some sort of progress from our entire culture being organized around the needs of 19th century farmers.
Amusement parks have electric lights. Does this mean they're going to get rid of daylight savings time too?
HotIgneous Intruder
2012-02-02 09:25:49 AM
Because here in George Maca Allen's Confederate Paradise, tourism is more important than edumacashen.
/The present Virginia executive administration consists of religious autistics
Thelyphthoric
2012-02-02 09:26:47 AM
King's Dominion? Is that some kind of prog-rock band?
Matthew Keene
2012-02-02 09:28:18 AM
School should start after Thanksgiving. And end by Christmas.
MOHWowbagger
2012-02-02 09:30:55 AM
As well they should, King's Dominion rocks.
Somacandra
2012-02-02 09:31:12 AM
R.I.P. King Diamond
domo_kun_sai
2012-02-02 09:32:00 AM
I'm so confused.
Bleyo
2012-02-02 09:33:01 AM
All of the people saying King's Dominion is awesome have never been to Busch Gardens.
Bill the Cat
2012-02-02 09:33:07 AM
cman
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To be fair, it is an awesome place to go
I haven't been there since the 70's, it was pretty lame back then. Glad to hear it improved.
VRaptor117
2012-02-02 09:33:43 AM
Whatever, I loved not going back to school until Labor Day and I turned out perfectly OK.
/Go Cougars!
tillerman35
2012-02-02 09:33:48 AM
In related news, the King's Dominion Charter School is all set to open next year. Students can attend regular classes between shifts, and the pre-ride audio feeds will be changed to provide additional instruction. Here are some examples:
"Please keep your hands and arms inside the ride at all times. Thomas Jefferson signed the Louisiana Purchase in 1803, giving our new country nearly a million square miles of new territory. Pull down the safety bar and insert the metal buckle into the seat belt slot."
Magorn
2012-02-02 09:34:09 AM
Slives
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Kings Dominion, Busch Gardens, Water Country USA and pretty much every summer job that is tourist related.
And it is not like Virginia is the only place that does this, I think it is pretty common anywhere there is a major seasonal tourist attraction.
It's called "The King's Dominion Law" around here as shorthand, because they used to be the biggest summer employer of teens (and they are very close to the capital) but yeah it's really about a half-dozen or so Amusement parks and tourist attractions. Still, the law has been Public Enemy #1 for every teacher's group in the state. I personally kind of like it because it draws a hard line between Summer and the School year. The kids get out so late the summer is barely more than a two-month break for them as it is now.
I think at that age, that long summer break is a valuable tool of self-discovery (boredom is the mother of creativity) and we are harming kids by eliminating it and forcing them into an increasingly regimented life at earlier and ealier ages
VRaptor117
2012-02-02 09:35:25 AM
Bleyo
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All of the people saying King's Dominion is awesome have never been to Busch Gardens.
Busch Gardens blows. It's nothing but kids rides and crappy coasters now. Also, they got rid of the free beer tastings when Anhueser Busch got bought by InBev.
fark Busch Gardens.
/I do like the Loch Ness Monster though.
Rapmaster2000
2012-02-02 09:36:12 AM
Slives
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Kings Dominion, Busch Gardens, Water Country USA and pretty much every summer job that is tourist related.
And it is not like Virginia is the only place that does this, I think it is pretty common anywhere there is a major seasonal tourist attraction.
That's probably why I never heard of this. I went to school in Indiana.
Jake Havechek
2012-02-02 09:37:28 AM
Q: Why does the 8th grade kid in a Virginia school have a mustache?
A: He's 22.
RoLleRKoaSTeR
2012-02-02 09:38:56 AM
Used to go there many times when I still lived in Virginia. Got out of there due to the job market sucks in SEVA, and the traffic is even worse.
Would like to visit those parks again, but the threat of $5 gas this summer may hamper that ability.
Walker
2012-02-02 09:40:30 AM
The law isn't even true.
My brother's kids in Wise County, VA started school
August 17
My sister's kids in Spotsylvania County, VA started school
August 24
2wolves
2012-02-02 09:43:36 AM
damageddude
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God bless America where we don't let a silly thing like getting an education interfere with
summer vacation
corporate profits.
Gough
2012-02-02 09:45:10 AM
For an alternate approach, see "spud vacation" . Some of the schools in SE Idaho start early in order to let students take two weeks off for the potato harvest in October. I understand that this is, or at least was, the case in Aroostook County, ME as well.
lenfromak
2012-02-02 09:45:37 AM
damageddude
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Most local school districts in Northern Virginia do not open until after Labor Day. When they've sought waivers from the state, they've been rejected.
God bless America where we don't let a silly thing like getting an education interfere with summer vacation.
I'm OK with this. Having government schools open before labor day is retarded.
ThreeEdgedSword
2012-02-02 09:46:36 AM
King's Dominion sucks.
ArcadianRefugee
2012-02-02 09:46:43 AM
Walker
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The law isn't even true.
My brother's kids in Wise County, VA started school August 17
My sister's kids in Spotsylvania County, VA started school August 24
FTFA:
Dozens of school systems already open before Labor Day in the state, but they must seek a waiver each year.
W C Feels
2012-02-02 09:47:01 AM
I believe it was Six Flags that got this law passed in Texas. That was just a few years ago. Evidently some school districts were giving kids a fall break, which enabled families to visit Disneyland in October when it's not crowded. Clearly that had to be stopped for the good of the state.
/no, I'm not kidding.
frankmanhog
2012-02-02 09:49:00 AM
Walker
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The law isn't even true.
My brother's kids in Wise County, VA started school August 17
My sister's kids in Spotsylvania County, VA started school August 24
You could try reading the article, it's not that long and contains the following sentences:
"But educators say they need more class time before Labor Day in order to compete with other states. Dozens of school systems already open before Labor Day in the state, but they must seek a waiver each year."
...
Most local school districts in Northern Virginia do not open until after Labor Day.
When they've sought waivers from the state, they've been rejected.
W C Feels
2012-02-02 09:52:57 AM
ArcadianRefugee
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Walker: The law isn't even true.
My brother's kids in Wise County, VA started school August 17
My sister's kids in Spotsylvania County, VA started school August 24
FTFA: Dozens of school systems already open before Labor Day in the state, but they must seek a waiver each year.
Texas used to do this, but they found that the rich districts were the ones that had the bucks to hire someone to cut the red tape, so they got the waivers, and all those tourist dollars kept sneaking off to Florida. Now outlawed altogether, meaning finals occur in January because there's just not time to squeeze them in between Labor Day and Christmas.
/Bad tourists, stay home! I don't care if your kids forgot everything over winter break!
Attila the Bun
2012-02-02 09:53:04 AM
Too many people, too long lines... I'd pay double the price if they'd let half as many people in.
Cpl.D
2012-02-02 09:53:12 AM
What the hell is a King's Dominion?
ihatedumbpeople
2012-02-02 09:54:11 AM
Huh...I live in VA and I've never heard of this before. I coulda swore my kid started school in late August this year...I'd have to check the calendar to be sure, but I'm far too lazy right now.
/must be a northern VA thing
//central VA, just outside Charlottesville
Blink
2012-02-02 09:54:21 AM
If we really cared about education, we'd have year-round schools. That's really just the tip of the iceburg.
/and keep schools on the cutting edge of technology (or at least in most recent decade)
//and allow teachers some say in what they teach
///and put kids that don't want to do learn in the classroom in trade schools
///and allow the students more choice in what they take after elementary
etc, etc, etc.
But all that stuff results in long-term prosperity, not short-term financial gain. And that's not how we roll.
Walker
2012-02-02 09:54:30 AM
frankmanhog
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Walker: The law isn't even true.
My brother's kids in Wise County, VA started school August 17
My sister's kids in Spotsylvania County, VA started school August 24
You could try reading the article, it's not that long and contains the following sentences:
"But educators say they need more class time before Labor Day in order to compete with other states. Dozens of school systems already open before Labor Day in the state, but they must seek a waiver each year."
...
Most local school districts in Northern Virginia do not open until after Labor Day. When they've sought waivers from the state, they've been rejected.
K. I live in Northern VA, and although I've been out of school a while, we did start school in August some years.
W C Feels
2012-02-02 09:55:06 AM
Attila the Bun
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Too many people, too long lines... I'd pay double the price if they'd let half as many people in.
That option is available at Six Flags (other than the too many people part). You can buy a special device for about the cost of your entrance fee that lets you cut in line. I'd be shocked if that's not available in Virginia. Disney's been doing it for years.
Some Bass Playing Guy
2012-02-02 09:55:34 AM
When I was a kid, we started the school year just after Labor Day and we were out by the end of May. Up here in MA, there are two school vacation weeks, one in February and one in April, which means kids start before Labor day and go into June. And it gets worse if they have to use more than their allotted 5 "snow days".
Slives
2012-02-02 09:57:25 AM
Bleyo
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All of the people saying King's Dominion is awesome have never been to Busch Gardens.
Depends on what you are looking for.
Kings Dominion has more rides, more variety in the types of rides and many of them are better than the one at Busch Gardens. Not to mention the whole water park section.
Busch Gardens is better known for its landscaping and family friendliness. I would say they are better for young kids, but once your kids get into their teens, you are probably better off at Kings Dominion.
Busch Gardens does have a better feel to it, the sections of the park are actually distinctive from each other. It is more than the color of the paint scheme and the music playing over the speakers. I think Busch Gardens has a more upscale feel to it, thus people let their egos puff a bit when they are there, believing they are being a little more snooty by going to the 'nicer' park.
Magorn
2012-02-02 09:59:35 AM
Blink
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If we really cared about education, we'd have year-round schools. That's really just the tip of the iceburg.
/and keep schools on the cutting edge of technology (or at least in most recent decade)
//and allow teachers some say in what they teach
///and put kids that don't want to do learn in the classroom in trade schools
///and allow the students more choice in what they take after elementary
etc, etc, etc.
But all that stuff results in long-term prosperity, not short-term financial gain. And that's not how we roll.
Year-round schools would be a tragedy of unimaginable magnitude for this country. Not everything you need to know to be a functional adult is available in text book form and testable at the end of the semester. the 180 school year strikes just about the right balance between getting the basic facts everyone needs to know in a kid's brain and giving them time to learn individually based on their own aptitudes and talents
Wellon Dowd
2012-02-02 10:02:10 AM
Walker
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K. I live in Northern VA, and although I've been out of school a while, we did start school in August some years.
Get with the times. I have two in FCPS and they have never started before Labor Day in my kids academic careers. Back in the olden days, when I was in FCPS, we would start in August but that changed 20 years ago.
Hal5423
2012-02-02 10:02:28 AM
Bleyo
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All of the people saying King's Dominion is awesome have never been to Busch Gardens.
Exactly. King's Dominion has a lot of fun rides and stuff, but the last time I went there, like half the people were wearing confederate flag t-shirts. Also, the pavement at KD covers everything: for example, instead of the blacktop sidewalk stopping at a border around a tree, the blacktop stops at the tree and covers the roots and everything. BGW, however, has been voted the most beautiful theme park for years and years, and is genuinely a pleasant place to be on a nice day... Hasn't been the same since they got rid of the brewery tour though.
Mr. Cat Poop
2012-02-02 10:02:42 AM
King's Dominion? Oh, you mean Gangsta's Paradise. Last time I went it was all attractive and successful urban youths shiatting up the place with fights and line cutting. I prefer Busch Gardens.
MythDragon
2012-02-02 10:04:22 AM
Matthew Keene
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School should start after
Thanksgiving
Christmas. And end
by
two days before NEXT Christmas.
FTFY.
Little bastards should be in school year round instead of roaming the neighbor hood and standing on my lawn.
Pepperjack
2012-02-02 10:05:04 AM
Roanoke here. My son starts on or around 8/23 (which is his birthday and it sucks for him) which gives them not quite two weeks before Labor Day when they are off yet again. NOTHING gets done in that first two weeks anyway. I just don't get why this is an issue. They should focus more on why they have Christmas break for two weeks and then go back and finish the semester with exams. Kids can forget a lot in two weeks. Mine forgot what time his bus came! Ridiculous. They should get the exams and semester done before Christmas break so they start fresh in the new year. Eliminate some of these "teacher in-service" days and get these kids in class.
/HATES the public education system.
//WTF is a "rubric" anyway?
hurdboy
2012-02-02 10:05:28 AM
Slives
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Kings Dominion, Busch Gardens, Water Country USA and pretty much every summer job that is tourist related.
And it is not like Virginia is the only place that does this, I think it is pretty common anywhere there is a major seasonal tourist attraction.
Right. The legislative history on it points more to farmers out west wanting school to start after the harvest.
When I was in high school, however, pretty much everybody I knew worked at Bush Gardens at some point.
Notsomuch these days, though. $7.25 is too much to pay someone to wander around with a broom.
Used to be, there weren't any places for cigarette butts. Management knew people were just gonna flick 'em on the ground, anyway. Solution? Hire some high school kid to sweep up cigarette butts. Pay him minimum wage, and not a cent more. Now, other than a couple of defined areas, the park is smoke-free.
/My HS girlfriend hated her pink dirndl
Wellon Dowd
2012-02-02 10:05:58 AM
Regarding year-round school, which was mentioned up thread, I have yet to meet anyone who has experienced it who dislikes it. Most folks who fight against it haven't done it and probably have overly romantic and outdated ideas of long summer vacations.
Disposable Rob
2012-02-02 10:07:44 AM
W C Feels
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Attila the Bun: Too many people, too long lines... I'd pay double the price if they'd let half as many people in.
That option is available at Six Flags (other than the too many people part). You can buy a special device for about the cost of your entrance fee that lets you cut in line. I'd be shocked if that's not available in Virginia. Disney's been doing it for years.
Or just go in the off-season. The first couple and last couple of weeks of the season at most parks is dead.
TheGreenMonkey
2012-02-02 10:09:44 AM
The repeal of this law is just foot in the door to repeal the 180 instructional day limit for the school year. It has nothing to do with King's Dominion or any of the other tourist industries other than making them a scapegoat.
They don't need more days for instruction, they just need to reevaluate the instruction they already do. With NCLB and the SoL tests here all that's taught in schools now is how to pass the damn test. I hated the school system when I was in it 25+ years ago, but I'd have no part of it today if at all possible.
Mock26
2012-02-02 10:10:13 AM
Virginia is for lovers.
phalamir
2012-02-02 10:13:25 AM
Magorn
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Blink: If we really cared about education, we'd have year-round schools. That's really just the tip of the iceburg.
/and keep schools on the cutting edge of technology (or at least in most recent decade)
//and allow teachers some say in what they teach
///and put kids that don't want to do learn in the classroom in trade schools
///and allow the students more choice in what they take after elementary
etc, etc, etc.
But all that stuff results in long-term prosperity, not short-term financial gain. And that's not how we roll.
Year-round schools would be a tragedy of unimaginable magnitude for this country. Not everything you need to know to be a functional adult is available in text book form and testable at the end of the semester. the 180 school year strikes just about the right balance between getting the basic facts everyone needs to know in a kid's brain and giving them time to learn individually based on their own aptitudes and talents
Having been a child, and having watched them - "giving them time to learn individually based on their own aptitudes and talents" = have them go away from adult supervision and then perform a series of increasingly dangerous "Hold my juice-box and watch this!" activities until they need medical attention. There is nothing that says we can't have play hours or play days in a year-long school curriculum - and at least that way the morgue only has to go to one centralized collection bin. Not to mention, with a year-long system, we could probably shave off a year of school attendance to get the required info taught. Then we could give kids a full year off before adulthood/college. They would be of a prime age to both drive themselves, and their "personalized learning activities" would be much more deadly, thus making the 'non-retard population" much more non-retarded*
* It would also deplete the South of breeding stock - but that's just a happy coincidence.
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